Hello, I'm a jailbreaker: Actor Justin Long demos hacked iPhone

2456

Comments

  • Reply 21 of 110
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by roehlstation View Post


    I think he did it just to allow it to connect up to the display equipment, it just might have been a spur of the moment decision and so it may have been the quickest / easiest solution.



    But if you look at all the Apple keynotes (Macworld, WWDC, etc), of their live iPhone, iPad demonstrations, TV/Video out all seem to work as mirror mode. Even if you tilt the screen it automatically adjusts the orientation on the keynote. I think they should enable mirror mode on iOS.
  • Reply 22 of 110
    geekdadgeekdad Posts: 1,131member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Kyle76 View Post


    Probably some techie junior producer on the show's staff did it for him just for the video out.



    Maybe...but isn't it sad that ot have functionality he had to jailbreak his phone?

    On the other hand maybe he has the rest of his app icons hidden to keep what he has on his phone private?
  • Reply 23 of 110
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
    It?s safe to say his contract with Apple is over. I wonder if he had it jailbroken before but kept it silent or didn?t risk losing a jailbroken phone that would become a huge media issue if found.



    That video is great. I?ve received a few of those random messages from people, but have always just told them they had the wrong phone number. Unfortunately, even that doesn?t work all the time. Next time I think I?ll have some fun.
  • Reply 24 of 110
    cgc0202cgc0202 Posts: 624member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by mikemikeb View Post


    Well, that's going to help him get into more Apple ads.



    If this is intended to be a well-written sarcasm, I agree with you.



    How can one be the face of Mac, again, if one does not believe in their principles, right or wrong the principles may be.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by herbapou View Post


    Like said at the end, once I buy hardware no company will dictated me what software I can or cannot run on it.



    Provided you do not cause any harm to others***, no one should be able to prevent you from doing anything.



    You are free to do all those or whatever your heart desires, again provided it does not cause any harm to others, beyond harming their sensibilities and aesthetic tastes,



    However, if you do anything outside of policies allowed by the company, then you must have the balls and the integrity to own up to the repercussions of your actions.



    For example, if you get a malware, if your identify stolen, don;t go running to Apple askig for their help, or be one of those who come running to the boards, proclaiming that their account information were stolen, but did not own up that they jailbreak the product they bought.



    Free choice comes with repercussion. Sometimes we forget the later.



    CGC



    ***

    N.B. Just to clarify this caveat, If you bought a car, you can smash it with a sledge hammer, you can burn it, you can color it pink, etc.





    However, if just because you own your car, you cannot run it at 100mph in a residential area, nor drink and drive -- not only because one would be stupid to do so, but one's stupidity or lack of concern of others (and society in general) can do harm beyond your own person,
  • Reply 25 of 110
    irnchrizirnchriz Posts: 1,591member
    .."fu** you I won't do what u tell me!'



    Getting tired of all you leet haxxors who think that you are somehow awesome cos u is gettin one up on da man.



    In reality I'm sure Apple don't give a stuff seeing as you bought and paid for their hardware. (unless you are a pikey thief?)
  • Reply 26 of 110
    geekdadgeekdad Posts: 1,131member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by cgc0202 View Post


    If this is intended to be a well-written sarcasm, I agree with you.



    How can one be the face of Mac, again, if one does not believe in their principles, right or wrong the principles may be.







    Provided you do not cause any harm to others***, no one should be able to prevent you from doing anything.



    You are free to do all those or whatever your heart desires, again provided it does not cause any harm to others, beyond harming their sensibilities and aesthetic tastes,



    However, if you do anything outside of policies allowed by the company, then you must have the balls and the integrity to own up to the repercussions of your actions.



    For example, if you get a malware, if your identify stolen, don;t go running to Apple askig for their help, or be one of those who come running to the boards, proclaiming that their account information were stolen, but did not own up that they jailbreak the product they bought.



    Free choice comes with repercussion. Sometimes we forget the later.



    CGC



    ***

    N.B. Just to clarify this caveat, If you bought a car, you can smash it with a sledge hammer, you can burn it, you can color it pink, etc.





    However, if just because you own your car, you cannot run it at 100mph in a residential area, nor drink and drive -- not only because one would be stupid to do so, but one's stupidity or lack of concern of others (and society in general) can do harm beyond your own person,



    I was with you until you got to the analogy part....

    Comparing jail breaking your phone to going 100MPH in residential area or drinking and driving is just wrong......that is not any comparison at all.....

    Its more like buying a new car then putting after market performance enhancements. It might void your warranty but it is perfectly legal. the car company has no obligation to fix or repair the improvements you made but they will repair anything you have not improved/enhanced......
  • Reply 27 of 110
    ssquirrelssquirrel Posts: 1,196member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Blackintosh View Post


    I see. So they're keeping flash videos off the iPhone for my good? They're banning porn from the iPad to keep me safe?



    That makes me sleep better at night.



    Flash is kept off the iOS, if you can say kept off when Adobe hasn't produced a working version for the iOS that Apple has approved to date, due to the excessive battery usage of Flash. Not to mention that if Flash is on the iOS and causes system problems, most non-geek people will just see problems w/the OS and say the iDevices suck, when the fault lies with Flash.



    Porn is not banned from the iPad. Porn is not sold in the App Store. You have this thing called a web browser. Knowing how quickly the porn industry tends to move, I'd be willing to bet many of them have converted to HTML5 to allow Apple products to view them. You can still load whatever porn videos you want on the iPad as well. So, no, Apple isn't banning porn from the iPad at all.





    Speaking of which:



    http://www.conceivablytech.com/1553/...to-drop-flash/



    http://zmarter.com/apple/first-facet...exclusive.html
  • Reply 28 of 110
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by BenphemeR View Post


    Because he is a big face for the Apple brand...



    Was a big face. I suspect he would have found another way to do the bit if he was still under contract with Apple.
  • Reply 29 of 110
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Blackintosh View Post


    Even now it's hard to imagine. Apple, the rebels, dictating to it's users what software will be run on their devices. First the phone, then the iMaxipad, and soon the Appple TV. Some think Apple has lost their focus. I think they have lost their minds.



    But you don't mind, do you? When the new iTV comes out you will buy it and watch whatever Lord Jobs tells you to watch. You will do whatever he says or else you will be attacked, as Justin Long will surely be by the AI community for daring to defy Lord Jobs..



    Mindless slaves, defying Lord Jobs only to watch a martyr burned at the stake? Paranoid much? I now must have an ignore list.



    If Apple wanted to make it so IOS couldn't be hacked at all, they could certainly waste allot of energy doing it, but Apple "prevents" jail breaking to the extent that it keeps "honest people, honest" to borrow a phrase.



    Obviously Apple didn't dedicate massive resources to prevent jail breaking, and now "the government" says it's "ok" as well. Apple will never endorse it. Big deal. Some rebel you are if you want to be corporate sanctioned.



    Who cares? Jail breaking is equivalent to removing the "do not remove" tag from your mattress.



    You are most definitely free to do whatever you want. Jail break away! Install what you want! Apple doesn't want it to become standard practice nor do they want to support it. Do you really think they are responsible for a device that doesn't have "standard" software on it?



    I hope you never use any Digidesign equipment. Their high end systems MUST be configured to spec; any changes to the configuration will essentially "void" the service agreement; potentially costing you a bundle. It's standard practice in many other industries and akin to what is referred to as "system of change" if I remember my process safety jargon accurately.



    PS Is it irony or odd coincidence that some of the worst english, grammar, spelling, etc . appear in this thread?
  • Reply 30 of 110
    eightzeroeightzero Posts: 2,503member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by mesomorphicman View Post


    It is his phone, so he can do with it as he wants.



    I love comments like this. I own my car. Can I do what I want with it?



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by mesomorphicman View Post


    And it is officially legal to jailbreak, so again he can do as he wants.



    And just because it carries no criminal consequence, doesn't imply carte blanche. My car came with a warranty, but if I intentionally crash it, I doubt the manufacturer will replace the drivetrain for free.



    When you buy an Apple product, it comes with certain strings. Don't like those strings? Well, you have alternatives.
  • Reply 31 of 110
    cgc0202cgc0202 Posts: 624member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Blackintosh View Post


    Even now it's hard to imagine. Apple, the rebels, dictating to it's users what software will be run on their devices. First the phone, then the iMaxipad, and soon the Appple TV. Some think Apple has lost their focus. I think they have lost their minds.



    But you don't mind, do you? When the new iTV comes out you will buy it and watch whatever Lord Jobs tells you to watch. You will do whatever he says or else you will be attacked, as Justin Long will surely be by the AI community for daring to defy Lord Jobs..



    It is nice to know that there is one who believes that he is the one among the few who is rational and can be thoughtful. And proudly declares the synthesis of their musing in a board like this.



    Everyone else must be like lemmings who follow everything that Steve Jobs tell them to do, including their ability to think rationally on their own.



    Are you for real? If you believe as you do, why do you even waste your time here?



    Or do you think of yourself, as the King of fables, who when he realized his people (subjects) have gone mad, he too must become mad to understand them?



    Do you categorize me with the people you condemn, from your thoughtless post above?



    I just bought a new MacBook Pro last weekend (it was a tax-free holiday in MA) because my 2003 MacBook, which is still working (and so does my old second generation iMac), but my old MacBook is too slow for today's standards, and does not have certain capabilities that I need for a business project.



    I was fortunate enough to have witnessed the birth of the PC, I used all sorts of computers for the masses: Commodore, Apple (before the Macintosh), and yeah those IBM manufactured Microsoft machines. While a student and during the few years after I finished, I even used computers that would not usually be encountered outside of research and educational institutions.



    I even have to use DOS (before Win3), if you can believe that. It was painful expereince using to say the least, if one is not really into computers, and do not know exactly how to respond to that blinking "?", in case you forgot something. As it turned out, you might just have forgotten a comman or a period, to create a complete "computer statement". Such bliss in DOS kingdom!



    From all this exposures, when I decided to buy my first computer, I opted for the classic square "unibody" Mac. Can you imagine 20Mb for its memory, you have to use those 5-inch floppy disks to do anything. But, at the time, it was among the best, for myself. It cost me $1,500 for the computer, and a 1,800 baud modem. That was the fastest speed then. [The internet, as we know it today was yet a pipe dream (I witnessed its birth too before Netscape came about in 1994).]



    Over the years, at work, I used all sorts of computers, attached to the insttruments we used. However, I always bought a Mac computer since then, for personal use. Usually, I wait for the second generation, just to make sure that most of the technical kinks of the first generation have been addressed.



    The $1,500 cost at the time, was a fortune for someone who was just starting work. Actually, it took me almost two years to save that, because it is too costly to live in Boston (Cambridge more specifically), expecially because I had a very low salary, and I even sent money home to my family.



    But, as far as I am concerned, there was even no hesitation or doubt, the moment I saved up the money. I read the high school student who won a prize from Apple Apps, had to do all sorts of odd jobs, to buy his first Mac computer, and later on his own iPhone.



    I share my experience and that of the high school kid because I want to ask you directly. Do you think I am just one of those under the spell and dictator of Steve Jobs?



    If you can't say that of me, how can you make blanket accusations of people you never met, or are likely to meet, on what prompted them to buy an Apple product?



    You start with your pompous statement:



    [
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Blackintosh View Post


    Even now it's hard to imagine ...



    If I have to make a very hasty generalization, I wonder if you actually capable of imaginzation.



    To make condemnations about millions and millions of people you do not know, when you make such generalizations:



    [
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Blackintosh View Post


    ... Apple, the rebels, dictating to it's users what software will be run on their devices. ..



    either reveals you arrogance, insensitivity or worse plain stupidity and ignorance, and perhaps all of these -- simply because you do not the time to understand why people (like myself) do what they do, like buying an Apple product,



    Sure, I am aware of my own prejudices, and all those irrational thoughts, but I do not go around pontificating about them, especially in sites like this where people are bound to think differently than I do.



    Unless, of course, your goal is simply to flame. There are a few here who have similar perspective like you do. Why don't you form a special forum for your kind... and dazzle each otehr with your imagination and technical expertise and genius. As a group of similar persuasion, maybe, like Arrington (you read him, don't you?), you may come up with a product you can market to those who do not want to be dictated upon.



    CGC
  • Reply 32 of 110
    carniphagecarniphage Posts: 1,984member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by crisss1205 View Post


    It looks like Cydia and the TVOut app are the 2 most recent additions which means he just did it. Unless he changed his icons.



    Let not that rational explanation get in the way of a bunch of ridiculous hysteria.



    C.
  • Reply 33 of 110
    tulkastulkas Posts: 3,754member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by eightzero View Post


    I love comments like this. I own my car. Can I do what I want with it?



    Why, yes, yes you can. It might void your warranty, but that isn't the point. At all. Remotely.





    Quote:
    Originally Posted by eightzero View Post


    And just because it carries no criminal consequence, doesn't imply carte blanche. My car came with a warranty, but if I intentionally crash it, I doubt the manufacturer will replace the drivetrain for free.



    And the manufacturer is free to make that decision. But, if they told you to only use their brand of gas or if they voided your warranty for using another service centre, you might feel they are being a little heavy handed. You would be free to do so, as long as you understood the consequences.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by eightzero View Post


    When you buy an Apple product, it comes with certain strings. Don't like those strings? Well, you have alternatives.



    Or, alternatively, use it how you actually choose to use it. It might void your warranty, but that is the consequence of your choice. This really isn't about the warranty. Fo you honestly think Long was concerned about the warranty when he JB'ed his phone? really?
  • Reply 34 of 110
    As echoed by others, the actual placement of these apps suggests a misrepresentation of the story by many sources reporting it. Regardless, at the end of the day, I wouldn't frown on the idea of someone promoting Jailbreaking anyway (unless it was specifically to pirate apps or something).
  • Reply 35 of 110
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Blackintosh View Post


    I see. So they're keeping flash videos off the iPhone for my good? They're banning porn from the iPad to keep me safe?



    That makes me sleep better at night.



    Not everyone wants to live in the world you are choosing. If you want or need porn everywhere you go on all of your devices, then get a frigging google phone! We the original apple fan folks never wanted people like you among us anyway! The true problem with success.......it often attracts the wrong element of fans! I knew things were going to shit when they sold the iPhone at Walmart- it allowed you to become a owner. That sucks for us.
  • Reply 36 of 110
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jimcord View Post


    Not everyone wants to live in the world you are choosing. If you want or need porn everywhere you go on all of your devices, then get a frigging google phone! We the original apple fan folks never wanted people like you among us anyway! The true problem with success.......it often attracts the wrong element of fans! I knew things were going to shit when they sold the iPhone at Walmart- it allowed you to become a owner. That sucks for us.



    Elitist.
  • Reply 37 of 110
    chris_cachris_ca Posts: 2,543member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Wurm5150 View Post


    Jailbreakers jailbreak for the fun and the challenge of it. The fact that Apple doesn't allow so many stuff makes it even more exciting for people to jailbreak..



    What would a hacker do if all of a sudden all computers become open and security non-existent? What would they do if there's nothing to hack anymore? They'd all be working at McDonalds or some other career...



    You think most hackers actually make a living from hacking?

    Likely most (99.99%) make nothing (from hacking), let alone actually earn enough to make a living doing it.
  • Reply 38 of 110
    jragostajragosta Posts: 10,473member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Blackintosh View Post


    I see. So they're keeping flash videos off the iPhone for my good? They're banning porn from the iPad to keep me safe?



    That makes me sleep better at night.



    Apple doesn't do it for you. They do it for the people who want a system that works instead if uber-geekiness.



    And your facts are wrong. Apple isn't keeping Flash videos off the iPhone. Adobe has never released a version of Flash that runs - even on jailbroken iPhones. Direct your bitterness at Adobe.



    And Apple doesn't ban porn, either. It's more akin to Walmart welling you a TV. They won't sell you the porn videos that you want to watch, but you're free to watch porn on your TV if you wish. Use your web browser, but stop whining because Apple has made a decision not to sell it.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by herbapou View Post


    Well this came to my attention after I tried a 5$ China bought cable that didnt work with the message "Accessory not compatible with this device". The cable is fine, its block by the iOS.



    So here I went to the AppleStore and bought a 50$ cable like a good boy.



    So you bought a POS junkware cable that violates numerous patents - and then when it doesn't work, it's Apple's fault? Amazing.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Muncie View Post


    Elitist.



    It has nothing to do with elitism. Apple understands their market and caters to their market. If you don't fit into the core market and don't like the product, buy something else.



    That's like whining that Ferrari doesn't make an 8 passenger SUV.
  • Reply 39 of 110
    ssquirrelssquirrel Posts: 1,196member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jragosta View Post


    It has nothing to do with elitism. Apple understands their market and caters to their market. If you don't fit into the core market and don't like the product, buy something else.



    That's like whining that Ferrari doesn't make an 8 passenger SUV.



    Really? It was pretty clear that



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jimcord View Post


    We the original apple fan folks never wanted people like you among us anyway! The true problem with success.......it often attracts the wrong element of fans! I knew things were going to shit when they sold the iPhone at Walmart- it allowed you to become a owner. That sucks for us.



    (emphasis mine)



    is nothing but someone being an elitist asshole. Someone taking issue w/Blackintosh for some of the retarded stuff he says, no problem. This was simply someone's attitude about porn and those who view it coming out.
  • Reply 40 of 110
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by cgc0202 View Post


    It is nice to know that there is one who believes that he is the one among the few who is rational and can be thoughtful. And proudly declares the synthesis of their musing in a board like this.



    Everyone else must be like lemmings who follow everything that Steve Jobs tell them to do, including their ability to think rationally on their own.



    Thank you very much. It's nice to have you for a fan.
Sign In or Register to comment.