Apple now building 2M iPads per month to meet demand

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  • Reply 61 of 130
    thomprthompr Posts: 1,521member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Blastdoor View Post


    Back in days before win95 one of the biggest problems Apple had was keeping up with demand. I remember when I got my first Mac -- a IIsi. My parents bought it for me in my senior year in high school. It took over three *months* from the time it was ordered to the time I received it due to demand that exceeded Apple's forecasts. And that computer cost $3000! The story on Apple throughout the first half of the 90s was their inability to meet demand for Macs, even at their high prices. If Apple had done what many suggested at the time and cut prices, they would have sold no more Macs, because they couldn't even meet demand at the high prices they charged.



    My point is that all of the theorizing about how Apple's business model was deeply flawed on some fundamental level may have been misplaced. Apple's problem may have simply been that they couldn't execute in terms of predicting demand and manufacturing.



    Now, contrast that to the Apple of today. Apple is far, far better at both predicting demand and getting products manufactured. The worst I've seen them flub this up in years has been this year with the iPhone 4 and iPad. But the longest anyone has had to wait for an iPad has been a fraction of what I had to wait for my IIsi, and the wait now is completely gone. They still have a ways to go with the iPhone 4, but again, nothing like the delays of old.



    So I guess my point here is that Apple has dramatically improved their ability to execute, and I think it may end up meaning that a lot of the conventional wisdom about the inherent flaws of Apple's business model was just wrong.



    +1







    Thompson
  • Reply 62 of 130
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ireland View Post


    Printing is great. Now give people the ability to setup and use an iPad without owning a computer, just like Apple TV.



    Than I can recommend it to my Aunt.



    Just have an Apple Store employee set up her iPad and off she goes. Or buy her a $100 netbook running Windoze on Black Friday as her base unit.
  • Reply 63 of 130
    Let's see if this works-- quoting a post without including all the imbedded quotes:



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by wizard69 View Post


    That does not imply however that it is perfect.



    Agree-- not perfect, but what is? The iP4; MacBook, MacPro... Nah!





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    Frankly I've never doubted demand, just walking by an Apple store should demonstrate public demand. Corporate demand is almost strange as the device would seem to be far outside most corporate infrastruture and purchasing policies.



    They have their point if view. Obviously a view that has to be adjusted from time to time.



    However their position is no less credible than the users that plug their heads in the sand and deny the serious short comings that iPad has. To publicly declare iPad to be perfect or suitable for any use is foolish at the very least.



    The question should be: is it compelling enough for your use that you will buy it?



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    Some of the concerns expressed are very valid, you cannot rationally deny the points.



    For example cameras. Personally I don't see a rear facng camera as being all that useful. A front facing Facetime camera is another story altogether. That is a personal reconsideration for me after more info on FaceTime has become available. Facetime is a far bigger deal than many will want to admit to thus the neeed to support a suitable camera.



    The camera (or lack of one) is interesting.



    The absence of a built-in camera allows the iPad to go places (secure environments) where other devices are banned.



    I agree, that I can't see anyone whipping out their iPad, holding it in front of them, trying to take a picture with a rear-facing camera...



    I also, agree that the iPad needs to support, nay exploit, FaceTime. But I don't think a front-facing camera is the answer-- you will need to hold the iPad or support it so it captures something other than nose hair. I think that an external camera is what is needed-- it could be as simple as the original iSight camera:







    Or it could be an iPhone or a much better camera connected via the CCC (Camera Connection Kit).



    I have tried several external cameras through the CCC, but they work after-the-fact, rather than live. I think that this is a limitation of the software, rather than the hardware.



    The CCC provides an interface between the iPad 30-pin connector and a USB 2 connector. It is possible that the current iPad (or a later version) could support a FireWire connection through the 30-pin connector-- some iPods do this.



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    Some of the concerns expressed are very valid, you cannot rationally deny the points.



    To deny that the iPad is short on RAM is to publically say one is technically illiterate. It is more significant than the lack of a camera as far as technical limitations go That RAM shortage directly impacts CURRENT software as well as future software. IPhone 4 pretty much proves the point here.



    Again I agree-- except that the iPad needs more RAM than an iPhone or iPod Touch. I'd like to see at least 1 GB of RAM-- to support better image and video editing-- yeah, ya' can't take movies with the iPad, but you sure could edit the hell out of them on that large screen, if you had more RAM.











    Also, something needs to be done to support true "virtual memory" on the iPad-- being able to work on content that is larger than the RAM (partially paged out).



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    At least we aren't viewing the world throuyh rose colored glasses!!!



    I can't resist... At least we aren't viewing the world through nose-focused cameras!!!



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    Besides we aren't telling you or anybody else for that matter not to buy the thing. That is up to the individual, what we are pointing out is why we have not purchased one yet. Notice I said "yet" there, it would take very little on Apples part to get me to buy something slightly improved.



    Obviously not!



    However the iPad platform is not a cell phone nor a laptop. As such it needs a different focus and capability mix to get many of us to buy. In some cases Apple has recognized this by unbundling hardware that should been built in (camera connection kit). Profits are pretty steep on iPad as it is, so forgive me if I express outragecat feeding Apple anymore money a $2.00 SD slot.



    For reasons expressed above, I don't want a camera(s) built-in to the iPad. A CCC, included with every iPad makes sense... if it doesn't raise the base price.



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    The unfortunate thing is that people like you seem to taje that as an indication of hate for the product to which I would suggest waking up. It is really an expression of desire or even lust combined with a little rational thinking about our personal needs. IPad is one slick device but it is not a hammer for every nail. Understanding that will lead to a better appreciation for the desires expressed by others.







    Dave



  • Reply 64 of 130
    Yet, still nobody can get a phone in Canada.



    Absolutely ridiculous!
  • Reply 65 of 130
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by nkhm View Post


    I think you might be disappointed if you buy the device as a family computer - no multiple user accounts would leave no email privacy, and the iOS mail app quickly becomes cluttered with multiple accounts. This is designed primarily as a personal device, and I'm not sure it would work as a family computer - I'd LOVE to be proved wrong, but think twice before making your purchase for this reason. Good luck!







    Sure, I can prove you wrong. No problem.

    First of all... every person have different needs, I already have an iMac designated as a family computer. Then starting from that you have to know that my sister checks her mail using her blackberry and at the office, my 9 years old daughter don't have email yet, then that leaves my mother that will be able to check her mail in case she wants. No need for multiple accounts cause is not needed for browsing, listen music, play videos, etc. None of them will edit HD video, play pc games, run a server.

    For those other things I have 2 iMacs, a macbook pro and the 2 year old Mac Pro. I just want something that they can use anywhere in the house without have to drag around keyboard, mice or worry about getting their laps hot.

  • Reply 66 of 130
    nkalunkalu Posts: 315member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by digitalclips View Post


    I wondered this but has the iPhone been kept out of enterprise due to the camera? Of course Apple could offer a with and without version of the iPad.



    The Camera in iPhone hasn't kept the iPhone out of Enterprise. I am still holding out on the iPad until there is a camera in it. Adding a camera in it will make it better. Apple should offer a with or without a camera.
  • Reply 67 of 130
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by nvidia2008 View Post


    e simplicity of iOS. Bottom line, expect 2011 thru 2012 to see 10.7 that borrows deeply, heavily from iOS.

    Case in point. Insane global demand that is really not going away yet, anytime this year or the next....



    Pretty much next year, will take advantage that I have to travel to the north next year and buy some new gear for cheap.
  • Reply 68 of 130
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by thompr View Post


    I don't see a problem with using the word "alleged" or "allegedly" in the manner that AI has.



    Sure that word is often used to mean that someone has been accused of something heinous (but not necessarily proven). But another valid use of the word "alleged" is that something is asserted to be true (but not necessarily proven). There is no requirement that the "something" be illegal or immoral in order to use the word.



    Perhaps your point is that the word is typically is used that way. That's fine, but according to the dictionary (and my understanding) AI is technically correct.



    Thompson



    It's not technically correct. The word means to accuse of wrongdoing. You can check a dictionary if you don't believe me. The word gets misused a lot (especially in AI articles), but frequent misuse doesn't change a word's meaning. But the real point is, like so many other improperly used words, they quickly turn into crutches. A fancy-sounding word may be satisfying to type, but if it doesn't convey the intended meaning, then another should be selected.
  • Reply 69 of 130
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ascii View Post


    When I first got my iPad I used it for a bit and then went back to my computer, but just lately I've been returning to it. There are some really nicely done apps coming out now (such as the new Twitter app), people just needed time to figure it out.



    The biggest disappointment for me has been the magazine publishers, who have nearly universally failed to produce good apps. The newspapers are a bit more of a mixed bag: some good, some bad. The biggest surprise has been how powerful the 3D graphics are on it (e.g. the Epic Citadel demo) - I didn't realize that when I bought it.



    Yes the magazines are a mess, especially Condé Nast. They just publish 2 sets of pictures of magazine pages (landscape and portrait). No resize, reflow of text...



    It is telling that most mag publishers are using an Adobe tool to create these static monstrosities.





    I believe that the Epic Citadel demo was a preview of what a game app will look like on an HDTV when run on the AppleTV.



    I will go so far as to speculate that Apple planned to announce AppeTV apps and games and that Epic Citadel was meant to demo the capability.



    For whatever reasons, Apple did not announce AppleTV apps and games-- yet!



    They may do so when Epic Citadel becomes available later this year...



    ...mmm.... how about a November date to coincide with iOS 4.2 on all the latest iOS devices...



    ... Just think of a holiday gift for the family-- An AppleTV, some Boffo games, lots of other apps and content-- less than $200.



    .
  • Reply 70 of 130
    sockrolidsockrolid Posts: 2,789member
    Apple's iPad timing is perfect. Releasing new iPads in Q1 every year creates huge advantages for them and creates huge problems for their competitors:



    Releasing new iPads after CES (in early January) hurts Apple's competitors. CES is the Super Bowl of consumer electronics, it's critical to consumer electronics makers, and many of them are building accessories for Apple products. But Apple doesn't have a booth at CES, and they don't need one.



    The tech media compares all slate-like devices against iPad anyway, so Apple gets tons of free press for iPad without attending CES. iPad is the de-facto standard and any time iPad and a clone are compared, Apple wins and the cloner loses. And if Apple keeps announcing new iPads after CES is over, the impending Apple announcement will always upstage most CES iPad-clone news.



    Releasing new iPads early in the year is also a huge advantage for Apple. They can advertise each year's iPad during the 8+ months leading up to the holiday buying season. This is always Apple's best quarter in terms of sales. Consumers might know that a new iPad will be released in just a few months, but they still need to buy the current year's iPads as gifts (for themselves or others.)



    It will take competitors months to attempt to copy the new iPad, so they will have less time to establish their product in the market before that all-important holiday quarter. By then, iPad manufacturing will have ramped up, and there will have been several software updates. Competitors will be up against a mature, very well-known product.



    So announcing new iPads anywhere from late January through March is absolutely perfect timing for Apple. It hits their competitors hard and gives them many months to hype the new product leading up to the holidays.
  • Reply 71 of 130
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by nkhm


    I think you might be disappointed if you buy the device as a family computer - no multiple user accounts would leave no email privacy, and the iOS mail app quickly becomes cluttered with multiple accounts. This is designed primarily as a personal device, and I'm not sure it would work as a family computer - I'd LOVE to be proved wrong, but think twice before making your purchase for this reason. Good luck!



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by plokoonpma View Post


    Sure, I can prove you wrong. No problem.

    First of all... every person have different needs, I already have an iMac designated as a family computer. Then starting from that you have to know that my sister checks her mail using her blackberry and at the office, my 9 years old daughter don't have email yet, then that leaves my mother that will be able to check her mail in case she wants. No need for multiple accounts cause is not needed for browsing, listen music, play videos, etc. None of them will edit HD video, play pc games, run a server.

    For those other things I have 2 iMacs, a macbook pro and the 2 year old Mac Pro. I just want something that they can use anywhere in the house without have to drag around keyboard, mice or worry about getting their laps hot.





    A few weeks ago, we took a 2-hour drive down to the Santa Cruz , CA Boardwalk & Amusement Park.



    We loaded up 2 iPads with games and videos, etc....



    Three young-uns' (10, 11 and 14) in the back seat...



    No: "I'm bored"; "Are we there yet?"; "He's touching me!".



    Two adults in the front seat conducting a conversation!



    Three kids in the back seat doing their thing-- no yelling or fighting.



    Once there, the iPads were in play for those not going on rides! The park has a free WiFi hotspot, so that was great.



    Same thing on the trip back, with stopovers in Los Gatos (lunch), tour of Saratoga (lived there 17 years), Cupertino/Sunnyvale (Apple and our main Computer Plus Store).



    It was an amazing day! Everyone had fun! The adults got to converse and reminisce. The kids got to learn a little family history! We all got to avoid heavy traffic (accidents and rush hour). The iPads kept the kids occupied during the lulls!



    The iPads did this job, better than anything I have ever experienced!



    .
  • Reply 72 of 130
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ascii View Post


    When I first got my iPad I used it for a bit and then went back to my computer, but just lately I've been returning to it. There are some really nicely done apps coming out now (such as the new Twitter app), people just needed time to figure it out.



    The biggest disappointment for me has been the magazine publishers, who have nearly universally failed to produce good apps. The newspapers are a bit more of a mixed bag: some good, some bad. The biggest surprise has been how powerful the 3D graphics are on it (e.g. the Epic Citadel demo) - I didn't realize that when I bought it.



    I've found it's totally changed how I use my computers. Before the iPad, my Macbook Pro was the most used, with the iMac used from time to time. Now the Macbook Pro is never used and the iMac is used a lot.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by nkalu View Post


    The Camera in iPhone hasn't kept the iPhone out of Enterprise. I am still holding out on the iPad until there is a camera in it. Adding a camera in it will make it better. Apple should offer a with or without a camera.



    If you goto pretty much any business in Korea, they make you put a sticker over the camera on your phone before you can get it, and you have to show them it is still on there when you leave.



    Samsung have gone so far as to have stations where you plug your phone in and it disables the camera function, then you can re-enable it when you leave.
  • Reply 73 of 130
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by iGuessSo View Post


    The story did.



    No it didn't
  • Reply 74 of 130
    asciiascii Posts: 5,936member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum View Post


    I will go so far as to speculate that Apple planned to announce AppeTV apps and games and that Epic Citadel was meant to demo the capability.



    That's an interesting speculation. They also talked about Game Center in the same keynote, but it's not quite ready...
  • Reply 75 of 130
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ascii View Post


    That's an interesting speculation. They also talked about Game Center in the same keynote, but it's not quite ready...



    Games on the AppleTV could be very interesting. Nintendo have spectacularly demonstrated that computing power and complexity does not have to be king in the games market - AppleTV could do some neat stuff.
  • Reply 76 of 130
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by nkalu View Post


    The Camera in iPhone hasn't kept the iPhone out of Enterprise. I am still holding out on the iPad until there is a camera in it. Adding a camera in it will make it better. Apple should offer a with or without a camera.



    I think they soon will-- but in a different way than expected.



    If they were to add a camera to the device it would be cumbersome to position/hold. Further, it would be limited-- low resolution, no optical zoom, etc.



    Think about it! if you are out and about, you likely are carrying a smart phone (hopefully an iPhone) in addition to your iPad.



    What Apple needs to do is allow real-time input from a camera or iPhone connected via the CCK) (Camera Connection Kit).



    Then, you would be able to do FaceTime on the big iPad screen while holding (or positioning) the smaller camera or smart phone.



    IMO, that is preferable to adding a limited camera to the iPad!



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  • Reply 77 of 130
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SockRolid View Post


    Apple's iPad timing is perfect. Releasing new iPads in Q1 every year creates huge advantages for them and creates huge problems for their competitors:



    Releasing new iPads after CES (in early January) hurts Apple's competitors. CES is the Super Bowl of consumer electronics, it's critical to consumer electronics makers, and many of them are building accessories for Apple products. But Apple doesn't have a booth at CES, and they don't need one.



    The tech media compares all slate-like devices against iPad anyway, so Apple gets tons of free press for iPad without attending CES. iPad is the de-facto standard and any time iPad and a clone are compared, Apple wins and the cloner loses. And if Apple keeps announcing new iPads after CES is over, the impending Apple announcement will always upstage most CES iPad-clone news.



    Releasing new iPads early in the year is also a huge advantage for Apple. They can advertise each year's iPad during the 8+ months leading up to the holiday buying season. This is always Apple's best quarter in terms of sales. Consumers might know that a new iPad will be released in just a few months, but they still need to buy the current year's iPads as gifts (for themselves or others.)



    It will take competitors months to attempt to copy the new iPad, so they will have less time to establish their product in the market before that all-important holiday quarter. By then, iPad manufacturing will have ramped up, and there will have been several software updates. Competitors will be up against a mature, very well-known product.



    So announcing new iPads anywhere from late January through March is absolutely perfect timing for Apple. It hits their competitors hard and gives them many months to hype the new product leading up to the holidays.



    It's almost as if they planned it that way



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  • Reply 78 of 130
    moochmooch Posts: 113member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Dr Millmoss View Post


    It's not technically correct. The word means to accuse of wrongdoing. You can check a dictionary if you don't believe me. The word gets misused a lot (especially in AI articles), but frequent misuse doesn't change a word's meaning.



    Not that it matters, but I have checked a dictionary, and it doesn't say anything of the sort.

    Quote:

    al·leged 

    1. declared or stated to be as described; asserted:

    2. doubtful; suspect; supposed:



  • Reply 79 of 130
    I just wondering if Apple pays for all the product placements the iPad is getting in tv shows lately. For example, Entourage is always showcasing how it can be used in a corporate setting. If they are not paying for that, they are getting an amazing deal.
  • Reply 80 of 130
    thomprthompr Posts: 1,521member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Dr Millmoss View Post


    It's not technically correct. The word means to accuse of wrongdoing. You can check a dictionary if you don't believe me. The word gets misused a lot (especially in AI articles), but frequent misuse doesn't change a word's meaning. But the real point is, like so many other improperly used words, they quickly turn into crutches. A fancy-sounding word may be satisfying to type, but if it doesn't convey the intended meaning, then another should be selected.



    I checked the dictionary before I answered the first time, because I wanted to be sure that my opinion was correct. Here you go with the link and the content...



    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/alleged



    Definition of ALLEGED



    1: asserted to be true or to exist <an alleged miracle>



    2: questionably true or of a specified kind : supposed, so-called <bought an alleged antique vase>



    3: accused but not proven or convicted <an alleged burglar>





    Note that of the 3 variants of the definition in the Merriam-Webster Dictionary, only the last one implies any sort of wrongdoing. They all imply a question of truth.



    How is it possible that you didn't check a dictionary before telling me to go do so?



    Thompson
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