Someone over on arstechnica.com was saying that boxset is normally $165. So this is either a temporary sale by amazon to undercut or a new permanent price drop. Either way, people who want the physical discs win.
Bingo. And at the same time, iTunes will expose loads of new fans to Beatles music.
I can't really understand why anyone thinks Apple "over-hyped" this. As others have pointed out, given the nature of the announcement, the place of the Beatles in modern music history, the long delay in their music being available for download, etc, etc, it seems just about the right amount of "hype" to me: an attention getting website teaser, followed, in about 24 hours by an announcement, but no "event".
I can only think that people are somehow conflating Apple's actual publicity with the blogosphere hysteria that ensued from it. (And, yes, I think criticism of them saying you'd never forget it is a bit of an overreaction.)
It will be very interesting to see what the Beatles iTunes sales will be. Given that everyone already has all their music ripped in iTunes, rationally, it should be pretty close to nil.
This announcement today will be more significant the older and older a person is. For many of us out here this is absolutely huge. No matter if we even buy the tunes or not. The Beatles had such an impact it may not be easy to understand by a lot of people that didn't grow up in the 60's and 70's. Now this move to iTunes will surely effect how some bands choose to go digital or to offer up songs on iTunes.
Have a fantastic day
Rick in Austin
Yeah still don't get it... the Beatles were pretty much the only band left in the world that wasn't offered up already. It's like showing up at the very end and claiming you were in on the success of the event. The Beatles have no claim here... the digital world was moving along with or without them.
In case I'm more than mildly retarded...what exactly did this change? How will this impact other songs on Itunes? Jobs would have been better off with a 'Mission Accomplished' banner hanging over him 'superimposed' into the album cover.
big news for Apple (revenue) the estates of the Beatles ($) and Steve Jobs (personal thing). A nice thing for consumers. But "A day I'll never forget"?. Don't think so.
Yeah because the world is full of poseurs who like what they are told to like and what they think will make them cool if they say they like.
It is also full of people who cannot witness the joy of fellow human beings and empathize. Instead they feel compelled by meanness to denigrate them. Is that the sort of world we really want to live in?
... In case I'm more than mildly retarded...what exactly did this change? How will this impact other songs on Itunes? Jobs would have been better off with a 'Mission Accomplished' banner hanging over him 'superimposed' into the album cover.
I think you're just having trouble maintaining a sense of perspective. Think of the nature of what Apple often uses it's home page to generate publicity for, and this pretty much fits in with their usual practice.
I gotta admit, I'm a bit dissapointed. As much as I love The Beatles, I was expecting some sort of cloud iTunes or even some sort of subscription plan. Maybe I expected to much from a web announcement. \
It is also full of people who cannot witness the joy of fellow human beings and empathize. Instead they feel compelled by meanness to denigrate them. Is that the sort of world we really want to live in?
I think you're just having trouble maintaining a sense of perspective. Think of the nature of what Apple often uses it's home page to generate publicity for, and this pretty much fits in with their usual practice.
I gotta admit, I'm a bit dissapointed. As much as I love The Beatles, I was expecting some sort of cloud iTunes or even some sort of subscription plan. Maybe I expected to much from a web announcement. \
oh well, now where's iOS 4.2!
The day is not over. By 1 or 2 PM we'll know if its today or not.
Okay. I will accept your definition for the moment. As such, I contend that you won't forget it. Why? Because most people tend to remember bad things that happened to them than good things.
But it would be nice if you used a recognized definition than making one up to suit yourself.
I wouldn't exactly characterize what Apple announced today as a "bad" thing. But then you know me better than I do, so you must be right. BTW, why are you so hung up on my use (or misuse) of the word "hype"? I was simply just trying to point out that Apple drew attention to their little event and some people were disappointed that there wasn't more to it. That's all. What's the big deal?
I'm still amazed at how many people don't know the info contained in the quote below.
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Michael Jackson bought the publishing rights to most of the Beatles catalog, but has sold much of it to Sony Music. (There have been rumors that Jackson left his remaining stake to McCartney.) The individual Beatles still retained songwriters rights and we paid for it each time a song in the catalog was licensed.
The recordings themselves are still owned by EMI (distributors of the Beatles' recorded music), and Apple Corps Ltd, the Beatles' own company.
Actually, MJ owns only 50% of Sony/ATV Music Publishing, which in turn owns most of the Beatles publishing rights. McCartney, as well as Lennon's estate still retain the songwriting rights and receive about 50% of the ongoing publishing revenues for composing the music.
According to one of Paul McCartney's biographies, Michael Jackson admired McCartney as a musician, songwriter and as a survivor in the business.
One day they met and discussed the music industry and their mutual experiences. MJ asked how he should invest his money, to which McCartney responded, "In music publishing". MJ took him at his word and bought up the shares in Northern Songs, the company founded by the Beatles, Brian Epstein and Dick James to publish the Beatles music, much to Paul McCartney's surprise (and annoyance).
Sony and Michael Jackson jointly hold rights to the Beatles music at present. As Michael Jackson has just died, it remains to be seen who will get his shares in those rights. Additionally, it should be noted that heavy debts run up by Jackson might allow another or others to step in and win his share (or a portion thereof) of those rights.
George Harrison may own his own songs; and what about Ringo?
Sony Music. Michael Jackson once owned their publishing catalog, but sold large parts of it to Sony to finance his later career and lifestyle. EMI and Apple Corps own nearly all their recordings.
Jackson put up his share of the Sony joint venture as collateral on a loan to Barclay's. I would think his creditor could take control and attempt to recoup losses through royalties. Maybe this is why there's Kidz Bop sings The Beatles now.
They put on a press conference for this? It might be the Beetles (for those are are big fans which I'm not) but this isn't all by itself news. This is a rider for something actually exciting.
What a waste of time, any genuine fan would already own the god damn cd's, stupid shitty announcement!
While that's true in my case (owning the CDs), I disagree that it's a bad announcement. The Beatles are the largest selling group in history. Their catalog still sells extremely well. There's a generation of people who simply will not purchase a CD, even if they want all the tracks. So for those people, this is an important announcement.
Apple didn't make a big deal out of it - they just posted it on the home page of iTunes. It's sites like this one that made a big deal out of it.
All 13 Legendary Beatles Studio Albums & Special Digital Box Set
LONDON and CUPERTINO, California?November 16, 2010?Apple Corps, EMI and Apple® today announced that the Beatles, the most influential and beloved rock band in music history, are now available for the first time on the iTunes Store® (www.itunes.com). Starting today, the group?s 13 legendary remastered studio albums with iTunes LPs, the two-volume ?Past Masters? compilation and the classic ?Red? and ?Blue? collections are available for purchase and download on iTunes® worldwide as either albums or individual songs. Fans can also get a special digital ?Beatles Box Set? featuring the ?Live at the Washington Coliseum, 1964? concert film, a worldwide iTunes exclusive which captures the Beatles? very first US concert.
?We?re really excited to bring the Beatles? music to iTunes,? said Sir Paul McCartney. ?It?s fantastic to see the songs we originally released on vinyl receive as much love in the digital world as they did the first time around.?
?I am particularly glad to no longer be asked when the Beatles are coming to iTunes,? said Ringo Starr. ?At last, if you want it?you can get it now?The Beatles from Liverpool to now! Peace and Love, Ringo.?
?We love the Beatles and are honored and thrilled to welcome them to iTunes,? said Steve Jobs, Apple?s CEO. ?It has been a long and winding road to get here. Thanks to the Beatles and EMI, we are now realizing a dream we?ve had since we launched iTunes ten years ago.?
?In the joyful spirit of Give Peace A Chance, I think it is so appropriate that we are doing this on John?s 70th birthday year,? said Yoko Ono Lennon.
?The Beatles on iTunes?Bravo!? said Olivia Harrison.
?The Beatles and iTunes have both been true innovators in their fields,? said EMI Group CEO Roger Faxon. ?It?s a privilege for everybody at EMI to work with Steve Jobs and with Apple Corps? Jeff Jones and their teams in marking a great milestone in the development of digital music.?
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Someone over on arstechnica.com was saying that boxset is normally $165. So this is either a temporary sale by amazon to undercut or a new permanent price drop. Either way, people who want the physical discs win.
Bingo. And at the same time, iTunes will expose loads of new fans to Beatles music.
I can only think that people are somehow conflating Apple's actual publicity with the blogosphere hysteria that ensued from it. (And, yes, I think criticism of them saying you'd never forget it is a bit of an overreaction.)
This announcement today will be more significant the older and older a person is. For many of us out here this is absolutely huge. No matter if we even buy the tunes or not. The Beatles had such an impact it may not be easy to understand by a lot of people that didn't grow up in the 60's and 70's. Now this move to iTunes will surely effect how some bands choose to go digital or to offer up songs on iTunes.
Have a fantastic day
Rick in Austin
Yeah still don't get it... the Beatles were pretty much the only band left in the world that wasn't offered up already. It's like showing up at the very end and claiming you were in on the success of the event. The Beatles have no claim here... the digital world was moving along with or without them.
In case I'm more than mildly retarded...what exactly did this change? How will this impact other songs on Itunes? Jobs would have been better off with a 'Mission Accomplished' banner hanging over him 'superimposed' into the album cover.
Yeah because the world is full of poseurs who like what they are told to like and what they think will make them cool if they say they like.
It is also full of people who cannot witness the joy of fellow human beings and empathize. Instead they feel compelled by meanness to denigrate them. Is that the sort of world we really want to live in?
... In case I'm more than mildly retarded...what exactly did this change? How will this impact other songs on Itunes? Jobs would have been better off with a 'Mission Accomplished' banner hanging over him 'superimposed' into the album cover.
I think you're just having trouble maintaining a sense of perspective. Think of the nature of what Apple often uses it's home page to generate publicity for, and this pretty much fits in with their usual practice.
oh well, now where's iOS 4.2!
It is also full of people who cannot witness the joy of fellow human beings and empathize. Instead they feel compelled by meanness to denigrate them. Is that the sort of world we really want to live in?
If only we had a choice in the matter.
I think you're just having trouble maintaining a sense of perspective. Think of the nature of what Apple often uses it's home page to generate publicity for, and this pretty much fits in with their usual practice.
I did mention I was mildly retarded.
Whatever! I'm going to play some Quakelive!
I gotta admit, I'm a bit dissapointed. As much as I love The Beatles, I was expecting some sort of cloud iTunes or even some sort of subscription plan. Maybe I expected to much from a web announcement.
oh well, now where's iOS 4.2!
The day is not over. By 1 or 2 PM we'll know if its today or not.
Okay. I will accept your definition for the moment. As such, I contend that you won't forget it. Why? Because most people tend to remember bad things that happened to them than good things.
Why Do We Remember Bad Things?
http://www.time.com/time/health/arti...817329,00.html
But it would be nice if you used a recognized definition than making one up to suit yourself.
I wouldn't exactly characterize what Apple announced today as a "bad" thing. But then you know me better than I do, so you must be right. BTW, why are you so hung up on my use (or misuse) of the word "hype"? I was simply just trying to point out that Apple drew attention to their little event and some people were disappointed that there wasn't more to it. That's all. What's the big deal?
Michael Jackson bought the publishing rights to most of the Beatles catalog, but has sold much of it to Sony Music. (There have been rumors that Jackson left his remaining stake to McCartney.) The individual Beatles still retained songwriters rights and we paid for it each time a song in the catalog was licensed.
The recordings themselves are still owned by EMI (distributors of the Beatles' recorded music), and Apple Corps Ltd, the Beatles' own company.
Actually, MJ owns only 50% of Sony/ATV Music Publishing, which in turn owns most of the Beatles publishing rights. McCartney, as well as Lennon's estate still retain the songwriting rights and receive about 50% of the ongoing publishing revenues for composing the music.
According to one of Paul McCartney's biographies, Michael Jackson admired McCartney as a musician, songwriter and as a survivor in the business.
One day they met and discussed the music industry and their mutual experiences. MJ asked how he should invest his money, to which McCartney responded, "In music publishing". MJ took him at his word and bought up the shares in Northern Songs, the company founded by the Beatles, Brian Epstein and Dick James to publish the Beatles music, much to Paul McCartney's surprise (and annoyance).
Sony and Michael Jackson jointly hold rights to the Beatles music at present. As Michael Jackson has just died, it remains to be seen who will get his shares in those rights. Additionally, it should be noted that heavy debts run up by Jackson might allow another or others to step in and win his share (or a portion thereof) of those rights.
George Harrison may own his own songs; and what about Ringo?
Sony Music. Michael Jackson once owned their publishing catalog, but sold large parts of it to Sony to finance his later career and lifestyle. EMI and Apple Corps own nearly all their recordings.
Jackson put up his share of the Sony joint venture as collateral on a loan to Barclay's. I would think his creditor could take control and attempt to recoup losses through royalties. Maybe this is why there's Kidz Bop sings The Beatles now.
What a waste of time, any genuine fan would already own the god damn cd's, stupid shitty announcement!
While that's true in my case (owning the CDs), I disagree that it's a bad announcement. The Beatles are the largest selling group in history. Their catalog still sells extremely well. There's a generation of people who simply will not purchase a CD, even if they want all the tracks. So for those people, this is an important announcement.
Apple didn't make a big deal out of it - they just posted it on the home page of iTunes. It's sites like this one that made a big deal out of it.
The Beatles Now on iTunes
All 13 Legendary Beatles Studio Albums & Special Digital Box Set
LONDON and CUPERTINO, California?November 16, 2010?Apple Corps, EMI and Apple® today announced that the Beatles, the most influential and beloved rock band in music history, are now available for the first time on the iTunes Store® (www.itunes.com). Starting today, the group?s 13 legendary remastered studio albums with iTunes LPs, the two-volume ?Past Masters? compilation and the classic ?Red? and ?Blue? collections are available for purchase and download on iTunes® worldwide as either albums or individual songs. Fans can also get a special digital ?Beatles Box Set? featuring the ?Live at the Washington Coliseum, 1964? concert film, a worldwide iTunes exclusive which captures the Beatles? very first US concert.
?We?re really excited to bring the Beatles? music to iTunes,? said Sir Paul McCartney. ?It?s fantastic to see the songs we originally released on vinyl receive as much love in the digital world as they did the first time around.?
?I am particularly glad to no longer be asked when the Beatles are coming to iTunes,? said Ringo Starr. ?At last, if you want it?you can get it now?The Beatles from Liverpool to now! Peace and Love, Ringo.?
?We love the Beatles and are honored and thrilled to welcome them to iTunes,? said Steve Jobs, Apple?s CEO. ?It has been a long and winding road to get here. Thanks to the Beatles and EMI, we are now realizing a dream we?ve had since we launched iTunes ten years ago.?
?In the joyful spirit of Give Peace A Chance, I think it is so appropriate that we are doing this on John?s 70th birthday year,? said Yoko Ono Lennon.
?The Beatles on iTunes?Bravo!? said Olivia Harrison.
?The Beatles and iTunes have both been true innovators in their fields,? said EMI Group CEO Roger Faxon. ?It?s a privilege for everybody at EMI to work with Steve Jobs and with Apple Corps? Jeff Jones and their teams in marking a great milestone in the development of digital music.?
http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2010/11/16itunes.html
$150 for the entire collection is very tempting
4 days of ripping and organizing or a simple purchase?