I can understand why this is big for apple in finally getting one of the biggest bands ever onto itunes I am sure that they will dominate the downloads charts for a week or two.
This also opens up the Beatles music to the digital generation which can not be a bad thing!!
This is good for the consumer in the more bands that are available to purchase on itunes the better.
I have not bought a CD for the last five years and the more available in one store the better as far as I am concerned.
Why do people feel let down? what were they expecting? It was a web announcement not a full apple event.
Yeah, well when Apple claims something will be unforgettable, it does kinda hype things up a bit.
There is no such thing.
And certainly not by any definition that I can find.
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hype 1 |hīp| informal noun: extravagant or intensive publicity or promotion : she relied on hype and headlines to stoke up interest in her music.
? a deception carried out for the sake of publicity.
verb [ trans. ] promote or publicize (a product or idea) intensively, often exaggerating its importance or benefits : an industry quick to hype its products.
ORIGIN 1920s (originally in the sense [shortchange, cheat,] or [person who cheats, etc.] )
By the way, will you forget it? Or will you be one of the idiots that will continue to bring it up every time to demonstrate that Apple is not always perfect?
All that Apple did was announce on their web site that, "Tomorrow is just another day. That you will never forget. Check back tomorrow for an exciting announcement from iTunes."
Apple didn't call a press conference. If there was any hype at all, it came from the media and the blogess sphere.
And based on the reactions so far, it would appear that it will be a day you will never forget. Good or bad.
However, there are more people on this planet that will appreciate this announcement than the idiots that continually troll here. And that will be proven by the end of the first day's sales.
Yes, saying that it is a day "you will never forget" is certainly hype. Exactly as I described, "one sentence of hype".
When Apple feeds the hype by being purposefully ambiguous and building suspense, it is only reasonable to comment on that hype. If Apple had merely announced "Beatles - Now available on the iTunes Store", you wouldn't be reading about reactions to a "day you will never forget".
Apple's advertising was clearly designed to build hype by getting people to talk about what that one sentence was referring to. And yes, we're talking about that one sentence of hype.
Anyone who says the Beatles were overrated or that either Lennon or McCartney were overrated doesn't have a clue.
They were miles ahead of anyone in terms of technological achievements. There's a lot of music today that is around because of what the Beatles accomplished in the studio. We aren't just talking lyrics (though, if you were to ask anyone who is regarded as a good songwriter will tell you that Lennon and McCartney were geniuses - I have no doubt that Dylan, Costello, Earle... will all agree).
Nope, because I'd rather rip them to my iTunes library in 320k or better from the actual CDs. Or at least I think that's what you were asking?
1) My reply posed a question was really an answer to those who are buying the iTS box set, as I figured your response pretty much excluded you from ever buying an album on iTS.
2) I?d doubt all but some amazing few people with some amazing equipment could hear the difference between a rippedCD at 320kbps or iTS at 256kbps AAC. The only way I could see decent equipment and decent ears noticing a difference is with better than CD quality audio. Like from the failed SACD.
Exactly, why release them @ 9:30am and have another announcement at 10?
Because you want to make sure that everything related to people finding and buying them is working correctly before you make the announcement, so you don't have a few million people at 10:00 am finding out that there's a problem and they can't buy them yet.
Why would I pay Apple $149 for the Beatles Box set when I can get the CD box set from Amazon for $129.99?
Meh
Someone over on arstechnica.com was saying that boxset is normally $165. So this is either a temporary sale by amazon to undercut or a new permanent price drop. Either way, people who want the physical discs win.
I can understand why this is big for apple in finally getting one of the biggest bands ever onto itunes I am sure that they will dominate the downloads charts for a week or two.
This also opens up the Beatles music to the digital generation which can not be a bad thing!!
This is good for the consumer in the more bands that are available to purchase on itunes the better.
I have not bought a CD for the last five years and the more available in one store the better as far as I am concerned.
Why do people feel let down? what were they expecting? It was a web announcement not a full apple event.
By the way, will you forget it? Or will you be one of the idiots that will continue to bring it up every time to demonstrate that Apple is not always perfect?
I stand by my original statement, when Apple claims something will be unforgettable, there is a certain degree of hype to it. They could have said nothing and just released all the Beatles stuff today anyway. But they didn't, they chose to grab our attention with a quick little ad that was front and center on their home page. Maybe that's not hype by the standard definition, but it got the attention of Apple fans around the world.
To answer your 2nd question, yes, I'll forget it. And no, I'm not one of those "idiots".
Of course your response seems irrelevant to the question of why buy one over the other...Thanks for playing I guess.
The OP said it wasn't worth $20 of his time to buy the CDs and then rip them all. I said, "then rip one a day and you'll be done in 2 weeks" to suggest that it wouldn't be such a waste of time to have to go through the ripping process if they bought the CD versions. But don't let me stop anyone. They're free to get whichever version they choose. For me, that was the CDs.
I stand by my original statement, when Apple claims something will be unforgettable, there is a certain degree of hype to it. They could have said nothing and just released all the Beatles stuff today anyway. But they didn't, they chose to grab our attention with a quick little ad that was front and center on their home page. Maybe that's not hype by the standard definition, but it got the attention of Apple fans around the world.
To answer your 2nd question, yes, I'll forget it. And no, I'm not one of those "idiots".
Okay. I will accept your definition for the moment. As such, I contend that you won't forget it. Why? Because most people tend to remember bad things that happened to them than good things.
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Q: Name a dog with wings.
A: Linda McCartney! *rim shot*
Hey c'mon man. I'm obviously no McCartney or Beatles fan but there's no need to speak ill of the dead.
Nope, because I'd rather rip them to my iTunes library in 320k or better from the actual CDs. Or at least I think that's what you were asking?
That is because you place little value on your own time while simultaneously overestimating your listening prowess
This also opens up the Beatles music to the digital generation which can not be a bad thing!!
This is good for the consumer in the more bands that are available to purchase on itunes the better.
I have not bought a CD for the last five years and the more available in one store the better as far as I am concerned.
Why do people feel let down? what were they expecting? It was a web announcement not a full apple event.
Well it would consume more than $20 of my time ripping the cds and then I would have to store all those discs somewhere..
Do 1 a day for the next 2 weeks. Not a problem. Oh wait, I've had the Beatles in my collection for years now.
Yeah, well when Apple claims something will be unforgettable, it does kinda hype things up a bit.
There is no such thing.
And certainly not by any definition that I can find.By the way, will you forget it? Or will you be one of the idiots that will continue to bring it up every time to demonstrate that Apple is not always perfect?
Beatles on iTunes is very bit news indeed. The largest band in history just went digital.
So relative to the HISTORY OF MUSIC, this is a big deal. There's no denying that.
But relative to the economy of the digital revolution we are in today... it's small potatoes.
Let's keep things in perspective.
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Apple's hype?
All that Apple did was announce on their web site that, "Tomorrow is just another day. That you will never forget. Check back tomorrow for an exciting announcement from iTunes."
Apple didn't call a press conference. If there was any hype at all, it came from the media and the blogess sphere.
And based on the reactions so far, it would appear that it will be a day you will never forget. Good or bad.
However, there are more people on this planet that will appreciate this announcement than the idiots that continually troll here. And that will be proven by the end of the first day's sales.
Yes, saying that it is a day "you will never forget" is certainly hype. Exactly as I described, "one sentence of hype".
When Apple feeds the hype by being purposefully ambiguous and building suspense, it is only reasonable to comment on that hype. If Apple had merely announced "Beatles - Now available on the iTunes Store", you wouldn't be reading about reactions to a "day you will never forget".
Apple's advertising was clearly designed to build hype by getting people to talk about what that one sentence was referring to. And yes, we're talking about that one sentence of hype.
Well would you look at that... forgot about it already.
For the win!!!
They were miles ahead of anyone in terms of technological achievements. There's a lot of music today that is around because of what the Beatles accomplished in the studio. We aren't just talking lyrics (though, if you were to ask anyone who is regarded as a good songwriter will tell you that Lennon and McCartney were geniuses - I have no doubt that Dylan, Costello, Earle... will all agree).
Regardless of whether you like the music or not.
Nope, because I'd rather rip them to my iTunes library in 320k or better from the actual CDs. Or at least I think that's what you were asking?
1) My reply posed a question was really an answer to those who are buying the iTS box set, as I figured your response pretty much excluded you from ever buying an album on iTS.
2) I?d doubt all but some amazing few people with some amazing equipment could hear the difference between a rippedCD at 320kbps or iTS at 256kbps AAC. The only way I could see decent equipment and decent ears noticing a difference is with better than CD quality audio. Like from the failed SACD.
...but Apple never made any big announcement for them. Smells like a money-making thing to me.
Apple (or any other company) does not make announcements without a "money making" motive....
Do 1 a day for the next 2 weeks. Not a problem. Oh wait, I've had the Beatles in my collection for years now.
Of course your response seems irrelevant to the question of why buy one over the other...Thanks for playing I guess.
Exactly, why release them @ 9:30am and have another announcement at 10?
Because you want to make sure that everything related to people finding and buying them is working correctly before you make the announcement, so you don't have a few million people at 10:00 am finding out that there's a problem and they can't buy them yet.
Why would I pay Apple $149 for the Beatles Box set when I can get the CD box set from Amazon for $129.99?
Meh
Someone over on arstechnica.com was saying that boxset is normally $165. So this is either a temporary sale by amazon to undercut or a new permanent price drop. Either way, people who want the physical discs win.
I can understand why this is big for apple in finally getting one of the biggest bands ever onto itunes I am sure that they will dominate the downloads charts for a week or two.
This also opens up the Beatles music to the digital generation which can not be a bad thing!!
This is good for the consumer in the more bands that are available to purchase on itunes the better.
I have not bought a CD for the last five years and the more available in one store the better as far as I am concerned.
Why do people feel let down? what were they expecting? It was a web announcement not a full apple event.
Well said.
By the way, will you forget it? Or will you be one of the idiots that will continue to bring it up every time to demonstrate that Apple is not always perfect?
I stand by my original statement, when Apple claims something will be unforgettable, there is a certain degree of hype to it. They could have said nothing and just released all the Beatles stuff today anyway. But they didn't, they chose to grab our attention with a quick little ad that was front and center on their home page. Maybe that's not hype by the standard definition, but it got the attention of Apple fans around the world.
To answer your 2nd question, yes, I'll forget it. And no, I'm not one of those "idiots".
Of course your response seems irrelevant to the question of why buy one over the other...Thanks for playing I guess.
The OP said it wasn't worth $20 of his time to buy the CDs and then rip them all. I said, "then rip one a day and you'll be done in 2 weeks" to suggest that it wouldn't be such a waste of time to have to go through the ripping process if they bought the CD versions. But don't let me stop anyone. They're free to get whichever version they choose. For me, that was the CDs.
I could understand it if it was Justin Bieber... but the Beatles??!!!
I stand by my original statement, when Apple claims something will be unforgettable, there is a certain degree of hype to it. They could have said nothing and just released all the Beatles stuff today anyway. But they didn't, they chose to grab our attention with a quick little ad that was front and center on their home page. Maybe that's not hype by the standard definition, but it got the attention of Apple fans around the world.
To answer your 2nd question, yes, I'll forget it. And no, I'm not one of those "idiots".
Okay. I will accept your definition for the moment. As such, I contend that you won't forget it. Why? Because most people tend to remember bad things that happened to them than good things.
Why Do We Remember Bad Things?
http://www.time.com/time/health/arti...817329,00.html
But it would be nice if you used a recognized definition than making one up to suit yourself.