I've had the 32 gigabyte ipad since April. Its now more than half full (with no movies). About 1/3rd music, half apps (and documents) and assorted other stuff like photos.
On initial purchase I hadn't a clue about how much space it needed. Now 32 gigs seems about right. At 16 gigs I'd making difficult choices. It may turn out that I should have gone for 64 gigs.
But, judging from the iPad use of memory, 8 gigs would be very difficult to use. I'd lose about half of the functionality that I now have. Assuming similar memory use with the RIM device, the entry model seems dysfunctional.
That's like saying that my minivan should cost more than a Ferrari because my minivan sits 7 people and the Ferrari sits 2.
I hope you're not seriously saying that this is a Ferrari in comparison? Surely you wouldn't be that naive? The question is whether it even has an s-ips screen, or will have a cheaper one like all other cheaper tablets will.
This is one area in which Apple will be doing better. All the part quality will be the same among tablets, other than the case, which in most models will be a much cheaper plastic, rather than the more expensive machined aluminum alloy Apple uses. Otherwise, it's a matter of higher performing components, which, sometimes, but not always, cost more. The screen is one area in which it does cost more, and a 9.7" s-ips screen costs a lot more than a 7" TN screen.
But, as usual, you're really just trying to be annoying, as even you don't believe what you said.
Really? Kinda lame. I get the impression you're increasingly driven to find some kind of anti-Apple angle, even when it doesn't make much sense.
I mean, seriously: comparing screen size to seating capacity? Good lord. But let's play: what about the PlayBook gives it "Ferrari" status against the iPad's "minivan"? Since that's how this works, apparently.
And for bonus points, maybe you can square the now minivan-esque status of the iPad with the constant drumbeat of how only hipsters and posers buy them so they can look cool.
he thinks he has found a way to dumb things down for us dummies. The analogy doesn't make sense.
in the end, regardless of quality (ie ferrari vs minivan) what determines a tablet's success is how users interact with it. Will it do what people want to do or will it annoy and confuse people?
"The PlayBook is expected to go on sale around the same time in early 2011."
Oops! Too late!
I doubt they could get much in the way of consumer sales for this, so they're positioning it more for business. If someone really doesn't want an Apple tablet, they would be better off either buying the Samsung Tab, or better yet, waiting until Android is ready for tablets, next year.
7 inch display with 16 GB will be 499? Good luck selling.
I think people make too much of the price. If there is anything Apple has proven time and time again, it's that if it's the *right* thing, people will pay a lot more for it than you'd expect.
I would pay $499 for a 7" iPad w/16GB for instance.
The reasons not to buy the playbook are because it's an Adobe/RIM frankentablet that will probably suck and won't have any decent apps. If it actually worked, it would be totally worth it and a big seller. That's obviously what the makers believe.
They just are too close to it to see what a POS it's going to be sadly.
I think people make too much of the price. If there is anything Apple has proven time and time again, it's that if it's the *right* thing, people will pay a lot more for it than you'd expect.
I would pay $499 for a 7" iPad w/16GB for instance.
The reasons not to buy the playbook are because it's an Adobe/RIM frankentablet that will probably suck and won't have any decent apps. If it actually worked, it would be totally worth it and a big seller. That's obviously what the makers believe.
They just are too close to it to see what a POS it's going to be sadly.
Yes you are totally right, but what i mean is if they can't even match iPad hardware, so how it's better? Apple always gets bashed for weak hardware.
I've had the 32 gigabyte ipad since April. Its now more than half full (with no movies). About 1/3rd music, half apps (and documents) and assorted other stuff like photos.
On initial purchase I hadn't a clue about how much space it needed. Now 32 gigs seems about right. At 16 gigs I'd making difficult choices. It may turn out that I should have gone for 64 gigs.
But, judging from the iPad use of memory, 8 gigs would be very difficult to use. I'd lose about half of the functionality that I now have. Assuming similar memory use with the RIM device, the entry model seems dysfunctional.
Yep, I've the 16 GB one and it will end as the "backup iPad" soon...
The 4.2 update added a whole lot more functions that weren't there before, including a whole raft of enterprise level administrative tools for managing fleets of iPads.
In other news: 2nd gen iPad to come out in April, start at $399 as well. Obviously.
If Apple does it the way they do it with the iPhone, they keep the old model around at a discounted entry-model and the new model will be premium priced, So something like:
I've had the 32 gigabyte ipad since April. Its now more than half full (with no movies). About 1/3rd music, half apps (and documents) and assorted other stuff like photos.
On initial purchase I hadn't a clue about how much space it needed. Now 32 gigs seems about right. At 16 gigs I'd making difficult choices. It may turn out that I should have gone for 64 gigs.
But, judging from the iPad use of memory, 8 gigs would be very difficult to use. I'd lose about half of the functionality that I now have. Assuming similar memory use with the RIM device, the entry model seems dysfunctional.
That depends on how they intend to deliver content. Imagine when/if Apple introduce a cloud based streaming model for movies, 32 Gb is going to be more than enough.
Yep, I don't want it either. I'd even choose the Samsung tablet over RIM's. The Galaxy looks pretty good in fact as an alternative to the iPad for those that can't get their hands on one this season.
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That's like saying that my minivan should cost more than a Ferrari because my minivan sits 7 people and the Ferrari sits 2.
That's like sayin' "It's not AT&T I hate... it's just Apple."
That's like saying that my minivan should cost more than a Ferrari because my minivan sits 7 people and the Ferrari sits 2.
Taking a Ferrari emblem and slapping it on a Ford Pinto does not make it a Ferrari.
On initial purchase I hadn't a clue about how much space it needed. Now 32 gigs seems about right. At 16 gigs I'd making difficult choices. It may turn out that I should have gone for 64 gigs.
But, judging from the iPad use of memory, 8 gigs would be very difficult to use. I'd lose about half of the functionality that I now have. Assuming similar memory use with the RIM device, the entry model seems dysfunctional.
Oops! Too late!
That's like saying that my minivan should cost more than a Ferrari because my minivan sits 7 people and the Ferrari sits 2.
I hope you're not seriously saying that this is a Ferrari in comparison? Surely you wouldn't be that naive? The question is whether it even has an s-ips screen, or will have a cheaper one like all other cheaper tablets will.
This is one area in which Apple will be doing better. All the part quality will be the same among tablets, other than the case, which in most models will be a much cheaper plastic, rather than the more expensive machined aluminum alloy Apple uses. Otherwise, it's a matter of higher performing components, which, sometimes, but not always, cost more. The screen is one area in which it does cost more, and a 9.7" s-ips screen costs a lot more than a 7" TN screen.
But, as usual, you're really just trying to be annoying, as even you don't believe what you said.
Really? Kinda lame. I get the impression you're increasingly driven to find some kind of anti-Apple angle, even when it doesn't make much sense.
I mean, seriously: comparing screen size to seating capacity? Good lord. But let's play: what about the PlayBook gives it "Ferrari" status against the iPad's "minivan"? Since that's how this works, apparently.
And for bonus points, maybe you can square the now minivan-esque status of the iPad with the constant drumbeat of how only hipsters and posers buy them so they can look cool.
he thinks he has found a way to dumb things down for us dummies. The analogy doesn't make sense.
in the end, regardless of quality (ie ferrari vs minivan) what determines a tablet's success is how users interact with it. Will it do what people want to do or will it annoy and confuse people?
Taking a Ferrari emblem and slapping it on a Ford Pinto does not make it a Ferrari.
Good one! I say good one because you followed up one inane analogy with an even more absurd statement that has nothing to do with this topic.
"The PlayBook is expected to go on sale around the same time in early 2011."
Oops! Too late!
I doubt they could get much in the way of consumer sales for this, so they're positioning it more for business. If someone really doesn't want an Apple tablet, they would be better off either buying the Samsung Tab, or better yet, waiting until Android is ready for tablets, next year.
7 inch display with 16 GB will be 499? Good luck selling.
I think people make too much of the price. If there is anything Apple has proven time and time again, it's that if it's the *right* thing, people will pay a lot more for it than you'd expect.
I would pay $499 for a 7" iPad w/16GB for instance.
The reasons not to buy the playbook are because it's an Adobe/RIM frankentablet that will probably suck and won't have any decent apps. If it actually worked, it would be totally worth it and a big seller. That's obviously what the makers believe.
They just are too close to it to see what a POS it's going to be sadly.
I think people make too much of the price. If there is anything Apple has proven time and time again, it's that if it's the *right* thing, people will pay a lot more for it than you'd expect.
I would pay $499 for a 7" iPad w/16GB for instance.
The reasons not to buy the playbook are because it's an Adobe/RIM frankentablet that will probably suck and won't have any decent apps. If it actually worked, it would be totally worth it and a big seller. That's obviously what the makers believe.
They just are too close to it to see what a POS it's going to be sadly.
Yes you are totally right, but what i mean is if they can't even match iPad hardware, so how it's better? Apple always gets bashed for weak hardware.
Taking a Ferrari emblem and slapping it on a Ford Pinto does not make it a Ferrari.
No it makes a Pintorari.... as in Plaipad.
I've had the 32 gigabyte ipad since April. Its now more than half full (with no movies). About 1/3rd music, half apps (and documents) and assorted other stuff like photos.
On initial purchase I hadn't a clue about how much space it needed. Now 32 gigs seems about right. At 16 gigs I'd making difficult choices. It may turn out that I should have gone for 64 gigs.
But, judging from the iPad use of memory, 8 gigs would be very difficult to use. I'd lose about half of the functionality that I now have. Assuming similar memory use with the RIM device, the entry model seems dysfunctional.
Yep, I've the 16 GB one and it will end as the "backup iPad" soon...
Have fun RIM.
Yes you are totally right, but what i mean is if they can't even match iPad hardware, so how it's better? Apple always gets bashed for weak hardware.
We'll have more Chinamen jumping out of windows ?
In other news: 2nd gen iPad to come out in April, start at $399 as well. Obviously.
If Apple does it the way they do it with the iPhone, they keep the old model around at a discounted entry-model and the new model will be premium priced, So something like:
iPad first Gen 16GB Wifi: $399
iPad second Gen 32GB Wifi: $499
I've had the 32 gigabyte ipad since April. Its now more than half full (with no movies). About 1/3rd music, half apps (and documents) and assorted other stuff like photos.
On initial purchase I hadn't a clue about how much space it needed. Now 32 gigs seems about right. At 16 gigs I'd making difficult choices. It may turn out that I should have gone for 64 gigs.
But, judging from the iPad use of memory, 8 gigs would be very difficult to use. I'd lose about half of the functionality that I now have. Assuming similar memory use with the RIM device, the entry model seems dysfunctional.
That depends on how they intend to deliver content. Imagine when/if Apple introduce a cloud based streaming model for movies, 32 Gb is going to be more than enough.