Meanwhile flash on Apple iPad is "disappointing" vs Android Samsung Galaxy Tab
You're RIGHT!!! I miss recharging my batteries. It so disappointing because I got real good at it. There are good reason to have Flash on mobile devices. The kid won't be using the device all the time!
Really? It has nothing to do with two cores on some of the Android phones? Or more RAM on some of the Android phones? It's all about optimization? I'd love for you to provide some evidence to back up your silly claims.
As for GPU accelerating javascript, that would depend on what a specific set of code does, wouldn't it?
I love the way you throw out all this crap as if you know what you're talking about - yet you NEVER provide a shred of evidence to back it up.
Oh, you again. You really do like being shot down every time.
Please, look at the chart, and look at what the Android 2.1 does vs. 2.2. It's right there for you to compare with the Nexus 1. Is that really, really hard?
Edit: Unlike you, I read REAL websites that analyze this stuff from a neutral standpoint, and know what goes on with Mozilla, IE and Chrome with their GPU acceleration.
The author of that article or web site where that chart came from is an iphone user, and may switch to a win7 phone because he finds the UI more intuitive and advanced. And yes, every other product he uses is from Apple.
Oh, you again. You really do like being shot down every time.
Please, look at the chart, and look at what the Android 2.1 does vs. 2.2. It's right there for you to compare with the Nexus 1. Is that really, really hard?
No, it's not hard - so I wonder why you're so confused.
The discussion was how Android phones compared to the iOS devices. Just what does Android 2.1 vs 2.2 have to do with a comparison to the iOS devices?
No, it's not hard - so I wonder why you're so confused.
The discussion was how Android phones compared to the iOS devices. Just what does Android 2.1 vs 2.2 have to do with a comparison to the iOS devices?
Logic isn't your strong suit, I guess.
Once again, every time I prove you wrong, you come back with a strawman.
Quoting myself:
Quote:
The main reason why Android is faster is due to 2.2's enhancements, not due to hardware.
Which is supported by the chart and benchmarks done by that web site.
Amazing how the same exact phone with older hardware manages to go from being midpack to the fastest by upgrading to Froyo, thus again proving you wrong about RAM, CPU or anything else.
Edit: Froyo added Google's V8 rendering engine. THAT is why it kills everyone else on speed, apple included.
I disagree. I think Flash on the iPad is great. There is no disappointment. Zero expectations, zero surprises. I have it in mind to use other ways of watching video, i.e. HTML5 or site-specific apps like the Youtube app.
With the Tab and every other Android device so far, you may expect to get Flash capability when you buy the device, but what you end up getting is a hobbled bunch of junk that works choppily half the time and not at all the rest of the time.
iPad wins in terms of Flash. There's no distortion of the facts there. A half-assed solution that is effectively useless is not a solution at all. It's far better not to make promises you can't keep.
Do you really think that every buyer of iPad knows Flash is not supported - or that majority even knows there are different technologies built in every web site, including Flash, HTML5 etc? and I haven't really seem Apple advertising iPad doesn't support Flash - instead, they said web experience on iPad is magical.
Do you really think that every buyer of iPad knows Flash is not supported - or that majority even knows there are different technologies built in every web site, including Flash, HTML5 etc? and I haven't really seem Apple advertising iPad doesn't support Flash - instead, they said web experience on iPad is magical.
Likely at least 50% of iPad buyers (and all computer users) do not even have a clue what flash is.
It was actually two months. 600,000 the first, and 400,000 the second.
Still those are good numbers, considering it is first Android tablet, very expensive and one even Google is not supporting/advertising much (if at all).
I always think of that in light how Android phones were selling at their introduction, and how they are selling now. I would expect that Android tablets will, more or less, follow the same path. This time next year, Android tablets will be huge.
One thing about Apple is - with their marketing approach, even if they are attracting big number of people, they are alienating even more. And that number will go for competing product just out of defiance, even if product is not offering more for the money.
By now I have more than couple of people around me who do have iPhone (and are in general happy with it) but neither wants to have another Apple product. It is not that all of them are/will be in market for tablet, but if they are, it is not going to be Apple tablet. Figure that out.
Do you really think that every buyer of iPad knows Flash is not supported - or that majority even knows there are different technologies built in every web site, including Flash, HTML5 etc? and I haven't really seem Apple advertising iPad doesn't support Flash - instead, they said web experience on iPad is magical.
This drives the point home even further. For those people who don't even know what Flash is or whether the iPad or the Galaxy Tab has it, a better experience will be had with the iPad. Click on a Youtube video and iPad opens the Youtube app. Works seamlessly, with no video stutter (with a fast enough internet connection). Tab users -- notsomuch.
Again -- Flash is useless when it doesn't work or works too poorly to be useful. The iPad solution is the better one until Flash performance is fixed.
This drives the point home even further. For those people who don't even know what Flash is or whether the iPad or the Galaxy Tab has it, a better experience will be had with the iPad. Click on a Youtube video and iPad opens the Youtube app. Works seamlessly, with no video stutter (with a fast enough internet connection). Tab users -- notsomuch.
Again -- Flash is useless when it doesn't work or works too poorly to be useful. The iPad solution is the better one until Flash performance is fixed.
Just like the iphone Android has a youtube app. Been around since day one with the T-Mobile G1.
Now if the tab uses flash period, well, that's different. I doubt the app isn't there, but that one poster can clue us in.
One thing about Apple is - with their marketing approach, even if they are attracting big number of people, they are alienating even more. And that number will go for competing product just out of defiance, even if product is not offering more for the money.
I think you're confusing Apple's marketing approach with pathological Apple hatred. I mean, what, exactly, does Apple do to market their stuff that would actually alienate anyone? Show people using their stuff? Play jaunty little tunes? Mention some of their products strengths?
Compare that to Android adverting that comes on like a 12 year old pumped up on Red Bull and looking for a fight with the pussy kids.
Really? It has nothing to do with two cores on some of the Android phones? Or more RAM on some of the Android phones? It's all about optimization? I'd love for you to provide some evidence to back up your silly claims.
As for GPU accelerating javascript, that would depend on what a specific set of code does, wouldn't it?
I love the way you throw out all this crap as if you know what you're talking about - yet you NEVER provide a shred of evidence to back it up.
Really, 2.2 is much faster in a number of areas than 2.1. It's also faster than the iPhone 4 in those areas, and to a lesser extent, the iPad as well.
But, as it's software it can be duplicated by others. Unfortunately, the way Apple handles this, they can't duplicate it. It was a choice by Apple, and it gives them other advantages, that for them are more important.
Okay, so we all know Dilger is an Apple fan and not Walter Cronkite. This is a site frequented by Apple fans, right? So why freak out whenever he puts up an article which touts Apple and points out the weaknesses of the competition? I need my tech reading leavened with a little boosterism. So shoot me.
Walter Cronkite was about as far from impartial as you can get. People liked his voice and demeanor, that's why he's given credit. In the historical context (or in the rational minds of his day) at best he was often completely incorrect & totally off-base - at worst he was liar and a fraud, and certainly an intellectual coward. One part P.T. Barnum, one part Joseph Goebels. The real tragedy is that much of his reporting had been swallowed as gospel, and despite all evidence to the contrary, it continues to dumb down popular understanding of history to this day.
As far as integrity and impartiality... you'd be better off with Captain Kangeroo.
He'd probably tell you Android tablets suck too.
When are people going to realize Google is not your friend? Sorry the Windows thing didn't work out for you, but if you think Windows Jr will... then you're just an old, yellow-stained Cronkite.
Walter Cronkite was about as far from impartial as you can get. People liked his voice and demeanor, that's why he's given credit. In the historical context (or in the rational minds of his day) at best he was often completely incorrect & totally off-base - at worst he was liar and a fraud, and certainly an intellectual coward. One part P.T. Barnum, one part Joseph Goebels. The real tragedy is that much of his reporting had been swallowed as gospel, and despite all evidence to the contrary, it continues to dumb down popular understanding of history to this day.
As far as integrity and impartiality... you'd be better off with Captain Kangeroo.
He'd probably tell you Android tablets suck too.
When are people going to realize Google is not your friend? Sorry the Windows thing didn't work out for you, but if you think Windows Jr will... then you're just an old, yellow-stained Cronkite.
Huh. Walter Cronkite, one part P.T. Barnum, one part Goebels.
Wait, did I say "Huh"? I meant, "You are utterly insane."
Still those are good numbers, considering it is first Android tablet, very expensive and one even Google is not supporting/advertising much (if at all).
I always think of that in light how Android phones were selling at their introduction, and how they are selling now. I would expect that Android tablets will, more or less, follow the same path. This time next year, Android tablets will be huge.
One thing about Apple is - with their marketing approach, even if they are attracting big number of people, they are alienating even more. And that number will go for competing product just out of defiance, even if product is not offering more for the money.
By now I have more than couple of people around me who do have iPhone (and are in general happy with it) but neither wants to have another Apple product. It is not that all of them are/will be in market for tablet, but if they are, it is not going to be Apple tablet. Figure that out.
Like many things, it's complex. I expect Android tablets to sell in total. But this isn't the first Android tablet. It's the fourth, or eighth. It's just the most well known. But where the iPad's sales went up each month, this went down significantly. That could prove a problem. They will have to figure out why. If it was bought by "Android fan/I hate Apple" buyers, then that's trouble for them.
It's also got a dual CPU chip. The iPad will get one next year. It's got two cameras. Apple will follow. Whatever the iPad,s sales will be this quarter and next, it will ratchet up with the new line.
What I'm most interested in is usability. I try to withhold my judgement from devices I haven't actually had a chance to use. I saw lots of reviews that said the Droid was an awesome phone when it came out, but first time I ever used one I thought it was a clunky piece of crap. I saw lots of reviews saying the iPhone was unusable for business, yet when I switched from my BBerry I found those reviews were all flat out lies.
Reviews are not always helpful, find a way to get your hands on a product before you buy it.
Actually, the tests aren't worthless. Since the iPad and iPhone were much faster than most of the other phones - even without using the GPU, they'll be even faster with it.
The only thing you can't tell is which one is faster when another phone beats the iPhone without considering the GPU. You need to know how much the GPU speeds things up to answer that.
Really? It has nothing to do with two cores on some of the Android phones? Or more RAM on some of the Android phones? It's all about optimization? I'd love for you to provide some evidence to back up your silly claims.
The only reason Android 2.2 is faster as Sunspider is because the benchmark is performed multiple times. Therefore the JIT-compiler will have a nice version of it cached for every subsequent run. Making everything but the first run, a lot faster. I believe on the less repetitive, the Javascript engine is actually slower (this is PROVEN generally by the massive error margin of Android 2.2 results), but hey can't be bothered to dig around, it's too early. That evidence enough for you?
Quote:
As for GPU accelerating javascript, that would depend on what a specific set of code does, wouldn't it?
I love the way you throw out all this crap as if you know what you're talking about - yet you NEVER provide a shred of evidence to back it up.
Is the evidence above enough for you? Ignore the red circle's of this borrowed image, the +/- percentages basically prove my point regarding the JIT-compiler
And basically, there is no guarantee that JS will be faster on Android 2.2, unless it's used a lot, and in a short space of time.
. Since my schedule is pretty busy, I don't have mush time to kill.
Regards.
No mush time - no mush room.
You better look out for an other forum, since obviously you are not using any apple products. And taking into account, that you do not have any spare time to kill, I am seriously asking myself where did you find time to write such a useless rant?
I am a linux user but I will tell you guys a couple of thing:
I tried the Galaxy and it is awsome to take to the field. Believe it or not, I would buy the Galaxy instead of the Ipad anytime.
I never played with the IPad and will never will for my current work activities. You apple fan boys need to stop whining like babies and understand that what is right for you is not right for everyone else.
Your super-duper man needs to get over himself too and assume that he makes great mistakes during it's performances on stage. There is a huge market out there, in several industries for that matter, that it's still unexplored. I see and work in some of those markets everyday and when I saw the Galaxy I saw it by the ideal size of the product. I spoke with several people around and they agreed when they tried it.
The people that I work with don't have time to go a Starbucks every week.
Most off you you apple guys are a different type of crowd and Steve has you already. For some the other people like me that does not a give a slick about what happens in your apple world, the size matters and the IPad is too big to take to the field. History will tell If Steve was wise enough and wants to keep up with his statement when he said that tablets smaller than the IPad are dead on arrival.
An Ipad is great for indoor work, I am sure, but for outdoor work apple needs to catch up with the size. Iwill give you an example: I would need a bluetooth camera for me to use the Ipad to take photos. No way I will carry that monster on a my field visits. The galaxy has the right size, fits in my big pants pocket, has a screen big enough to make notes on the photos, and hass all the other functionality of the Ipad that I need. Sure, I pad has a gazillion more apps but the android platform is catching up. then again, how many of you use a gazillion of apps? I need about 10 to 20 apps and everything else is not needed, just too kill time. Since my schedule is pretty busy, I don't have mush time to kill.
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Meanwhile flash on Apple iPad is "disappointing" vs Android Samsung Galaxy Tab
You're RIGHT!!! I miss recharging my batteries. It so disappointing because I got real good at it. There are good reason to have Flash on mobile devices. The kid won't be using the device all the time!
Really? It has nothing to do with two cores on some of the Android phones? Or more RAM on some of the Android phones? It's all about optimization? I'd love for you to provide some evidence to back up your silly claims.
As for GPU accelerating javascript, that would depend on what a specific set of code does, wouldn't it?
I love the way you throw out all this crap as if you know what you're talking about - yet you NEVER provide a shred of evidence to back it up.
Oh, you again. You really do like being shot down every time.
Please, look at the chart, and look at what the Android 2.1 does vs. 2.2. It's right there for you to compare with the Nexus 1. Is that really, really hard?
Edit: Unlike you, I read REAL websites that analyze this stuff from a neutral standpoint, and know what goes on with Mozilla, IE and Chrome with their GPU acceleration.
The author of that article or web site where that chart came from is an iphone user, and may switch to a win7 phone because he finds the UI more intuitive and advanced. And yes, every other product he uses is from Apple.
Lots of unit "sales" does not automatically equate to "making lots of money" (i.e. profit, not revenue)..
Of course. Thanks.
But I thought we were talking about their motive.
Oh, you again. You really do like being shot down every time.
Please, look at the chart, and look at what the Android 2.1 does vs. 2.2. It's right there for you to compare with the Nexus 1. Is that really, really hard?
No, it's not hard - so I wonder why you're so confused.
The discussion was how Android phones compared to the iOS devices. Just what does Android 2.1 vs 2.2 have to do with a comparison to the iOS devices?
Logic isn't your strong suit, I guess.
No, it's not hard - so I wonder why you're so confused.
The discussion was how Android phones compared to the iOS devices. Just what does Android 2.1 vs 2.2 have to do with a comparison to the iOS devices?
Logic isn't your strong suit, I guess.
Once again, every time I prove you wrong, you come back with a strawman.
Quoting myself:
The main reason why Android is faster is due to 2.2's enhancements, not due to hardware.
Which is supported by the chart and benchmarks done by that web site.
Amazing how the same exact phone with older hardware manages to go from being midpack to the fastest by upgrading to Froyo, thus again proving you wrong about RAM, CPU or anything else.
Edit: Froyo added Google's V8 rendering engine. THAT is why it kills everyone else on speed, apple included.
I disagree. I think Flash on the iPad is great. There is no disappointment. Zero expectations, zero surprises. I have it in mind to use other ways of watching video, i.e. HTML5 or site-specific apps like the Youtube app.
With the Tab and every other Android device so far, you may expect to get Flash capability when you buy the device, but what you end up getting is a hobbled bunch of junk that works choppily half the time and not at all the rest of the time.
iPad wins in terms of Flash. There's no distortion of the facts there. A half-assed solution that is effectively useless is not a solution at all. It's far better not to make promises you can't keep.
Do you really think that every buyer of iPad knows Flash is not supported - or that majority even knows there are different technologies built in every web site, including Flash, HTML5 etc? and I haven't really seem Apple advertising iPad doesn't support Flash - instead, they said web experience on iPad is magical.
Do you really think that every buyer of iPad knows Flash is not supported - or that majority even knows there are different technologies built in every web site, including Flash, HTML5 etc? and I haven't really seem Apple advertising iPad doesn't support Flash - instead, they said web experience on iPad is magical.
Likely at least 50% of iPad buyers (and all computer users) do not even have a clue what flash is.
It was actually two months. 600,000 the first, and 400,000 the second.
Still those are good numbers, considering it is first Android tablet, very expensive and one even Google is not supporting/advertising much (if at all).
I always think of that in light how Android phones were selling at their introduction, and how they are selling now. I would expect that Android tablets will, more or less, follow the same path. This time next year, Android tablets will be huge.
One thing about Apple is - with their marketing approach, even if they are attracting big number of people, they are alienating even more. And that number will go for competing product just out of defiance, even if product is not offering more for the money.
By now I have more than couple of people around me who do have iPhone (and are in general happy with it) but neither wants to have another Apple product. It is not that all of them are/will be in market for tablet, but if they are, it is not going to be Apple tablet. Figure that out.
Do you really think that every buyer of iPad knows Flash is not supported - or that majority even knows there are different technologies built in every web site, including Flash, HTML5 etc? and I haven't really seem Apple advertising iPad doesn't support Flash - instead, they said web experience on iPad is magical.
This drives the point home even further. For those people who don't even know what Flash is or whether the iPad or the Galaxy Tab has it, a better experience will be had with the iPad. Click on a Youtube video and iPad opens the Youtube app. Works seamlessly, with no video stutter (with a fast enough internet connection). Tab users -- notsomuch.
Again -- Flash is useless when it doesn't work or works too poorly to be useful. The iPad solution is the better one until Flash performance is fixed.
One thing about Apple is - with their marketing approach, even if they are attracting big number of people, they are alienating even more.
IMHO, with its business model, Google alienates even more people than Apple.
This drives the point home even further. For those people who don't even know what Flash is or whether the iPad or the Galaxy Tab has it, a better experience will be had with the iPad. Click on a Youtube video and iPad opens the Youtube app. Works seamlessly, with no video stutter (with a fast enough internet connection). Tab users -- notsomuch.
Again -- Flash is useless when it doesn't work or works too poorly to be useful. The iPad solution is the better one until Flash performance is fixed.
Just like the iphone Android has a youtube app. Been around since day one with the T-Mobile G1.
Now if the tab uses flash period, well, that's different. I doubt the app isn't there, but that one poster can clue us in.
One thing about Apple is - with their marketing approach, even if they are attracting big number of people, they are alienating even more. And that number will go for competing product just out of defiance, even if product is not offering more for the money.
I think you're confusing Apple's marketing approach with pathological Apple hatred. I mean, what, exactly, does Apple do to market their stuff that would actually alienate anyone? Show people using their stuff? Play jaunty little tunes? Mention some of their products strengths?
Compare that to Android adverting that comes on like a 12 year old pumped up on Red Bull and looking for a fight with the pussy kids.
Really? It has nothing to do with two cores on some of the Android phones? Or more RAM on some of the Android phones? It's all about optimization? I'd love for you to provide some evidence to back up your silly claims.
As for GPU accelerating javascript, that would depend on what a specific set of code does, wouldn't it?
I love the way you throw out all this crap as if you know what you're talking about - yet you NEVER provide a shred of evidence to back it up.
Really, 2.2 is much faster in a number of areas than 2.1. It's also faster than the iPhone 4 in those areas, and to a lesser extent, the iPad as well.
But, as it's software it can be duplicated by others. Unfortunately, the way Apple handles this, they can't duplicate it. It was a choice by Apple, and it gives them other advantages, that for them are more important.
Okay, so we all know Dilger is an Apple fan and not Walter Cronkite. This is a site frequented by Apple fans, right? So why freak out whenever he puts up an article which touts Apple and points out the weaknesses of the competition? I need my tech reading leavened with a little boosterism. So shoot me.
Walter Cronkite was about as far from impartial as you can get. People liked his voice and demeanor, that's why he's given credit. In the historical context (or in the rational minds of his day) at best he was often completely incorrect & totally off-base - at worst he was liar and a fraud, and certainly an intellectual coward. One part P.T. Barnum, one part Joseph Goebels. The real tragedy is that much of his reporting had been swallowed as gospel, and despite all evidence to the contrary, it continues to dumb down popular understanding of history to this day.
As far as integrity and impartiality... you'd be better off with Captain Kangeroo.
He'd probably tell you Android tablets suck too.
When are people going to realize Google is not your friend? Sorry the Windows thing didn't work out for you, but if you think Windows Jr will... then you're just an old, yellow-stained Cronkite.
Walter Cronkite was about as far from impartial as you can get. People liked his voice and demeanor, that's why he's given credit. In the historical context (or in the rational minds of his day) at best he was often completely incorrect & totally off-base - at worst he was liar and a fraud, and certainly an intellectual coward. One part P.T. Barnum, one part Joseph Goebels. The real tragedy is that much of his reporting had been swallowed as gospel, and despite all evidence to the contrary, it continues to dumb down popular understanding of history to this day.
As far as integrity and impartiality... you'd be better off with Captain Kangeroo.
He'd probably tell you Android tablets suck too.
When are people going to realize Google is not your friend? Sorry the Windows thing didn't work out for you, but if you think Windows Jr will... then you're just an old, yellow-stained Cronkite.
Huh. Walter Cronkite, one part P.T. Barnum, one part Goebels.
Wait, did I say "Huh"? I meant, "You are utterly insane."
Still those are good numbers, considering it is first Android tablet, very expensive and one even Google is not supporting/advertising much (if at all).
I always think of that in light how Android phones were selling at their introduction, and how they are selling now. I would expect that Android tablets will, more or less, follow the same path. This time next year, Android tablets will be huge.
One thing about Apple is - with their marketing approach, even if they are attracting big number of people, they are alienating even more. And that number will go for competing product just out of defiance, even if product is not offering more for the money.
By now I have more than couple of people around me who do have iPhone (and are in general happy with it) but neither wants to have another Apple product. It is not that all of them are/will be in market for tablet, but if they are, it is not going to be Apple tablet. Figure that out.
Like many things, it's complex. I expect Android tablets to sell in total. But this isn't the first Android tablet. It's the fourth, or eighth. It's just the most well known. But where the iPad's sales went up each month, this went down significantly. That could prove a problem. They will have to figure out why. If it was bought by "Android fan/I hate Apple" buyers, then that's trouble for them.
It's also got a dual CPU chip. The iPad will get one next year. It's got two cameras. Apple will follow. Whatever the iPad,s sales will be this quarter and next, it will ratchet up with the new line.
Reviews are not always helpful, find a way to get your hands on a product before you buy it.
Actually, the tests aren't worthless. Since the iPad and iPhone were much faster than most of the other phones - even without using the GPU, they'll be even faster with it.
The only thing you can't tell is which one is faster when another phone beats the iPhone without considering the GPU. You need to know how much the GPU speeds things up to answer that.
Really? It has nothing to do with two cores on some of the Android phones? Or more RAM on some of the Android phones? It's all about optimization? I'd love for you to provide some evidence to back up your silly claims.
The only reason Android 2.2 is faster as Sunspider is because the benchmark is performed multiple times. Therefore the JIT-compiler will have a nice version of it cached for every subsequent run. Making everything but the first run, a lot faster. I believe on the less repetitive, the Javascript engine is actually slower (this is PROVEN generally by the massive error margin of Android 2.2 results), but hey can't be bothered to dig around, it's too early. That evidence enough for you?
As for GPU accelerating javascript, that would depend on what a specific set of code does, wouldn't it?
I love the way you throw out all this crap as if you know what you're talking about - yet you NEVER provide a shred of evidence to back it up.
Is the evidence above enough for you? Ignore the red circle's of this borrowed image, the +/- percentages basically prove my point regarding the JIT-compiler
And basically, there is no guarantee that JS will be faster on Android 2.2, unless it's used a lot, and in a short space of time.
. Since my schedule is pretty busy, I don't have mush time to kill.
Regards.
No mush time - no mush room.
You better look out for an other forum, since obviously you are not using any apple products. And taking into account, that you do not have any spare time to kill, I am seriously asking myself where did you find time to write such a useless rant?
I am a linux user but I will tell you guys a couple of thing:
I tried the Galaxy and it is awsome to take to the field. Believe it or not, I would buy the Galaxy instead of the Ipad anytime.
I never played with the IPad and will never will for my current work activities. You apple fan boys need to stop whining like babies and understand that what is right for you is not right for everyone else.
Your super-duper man needs to get over himself too and assume that he makes great mistakes during it's performances on stage. There is a huge market out there, in several industries for that matter, that it's still unexplored. I see and work in some of those markets everyday and when I saw the Galaxy I saw it by the ideal size of the product. I spoke with several people around and they agreed when they tried it.
The people that I work with don't have time to go a Starbucks every week.
Most off you you apple guys are a different type of crowd and Steve has you already. For some the other people like me that does not a give a slick about what happens in your apple world, the size matters and the IPad is too big to take to the field. History will tell If Steve was wise enough and wants to keep up with his statement when he said that tablets smaller than the IPad are dead on arrival.
An Ipad is great for indoor work, I am sure, but for outdoor work apple needs to catch up with the size. Iwill give you an example: I would need a bluetooth camera for me to use the Ipad to take photos. No way I will carry that monster on a my field visits. The galaxy has the right size, fits in my big pants pocket, has a screen big enough to make notes on the photos, and hass all the other functionality of the Ipad that I need. Sure, I pad has a gazillion more apps but the android platform is catching up. then again, how many of you use a gazillion of apps? I need about 10 to 20 apps and everything else is not needed, just too kill time. Since my schedule is pretty busy, I don't have mush time to kill.
What do you think about the size of the iPad?