Yeah I did post that thread. What was going on was people coming on my AIM/Yahoo accounts pretending to be me and talking to her. She showed me this in an email. Definitely not her f*cking with me, but somebody who has something really against me and her. At one point I couldn't get into my email account for a very long time cause it was all f*cked with. In a chat room before I've had random names with people messaging me with remarks about my girlfriend (wont even go into those...some pretty threatening). It hurts me a lot.
We have been getting random phone calls for some time now. It is where you answer and nobody says anything ...and when you stay on the line for a while not saying anything they stay on not saying anything....I've stayed on walking around and just heard them breathing. Then I did star 69 and the number was an unknown number...wow. I've told my mom to call the police about it because she's gotten them too. I told Stef about this and she says the exact same thing has been happening to her too.
but do you really think theyd make something like that up? <hr></blockquote>
Yes, I do think she would make something like that up. I had it happen to me...except this girl was supposedly put on a ventilator to breathe while in the ICU then "escaped" (her words) to catch a taxi and then called me when she got home. When confronted with all the BS, she claims she has an evil twin sister...no kidding. It was my 1st time dealing with an absolute psychopath. Reading the IM that I saved every so often reminds me how there are strangers out there! (I would show you and am debating on posting it here..cause it would show you first hand)
[quote]I'll call her tomorrow and see<hr></blockquote>
Well...let us know. I would be really interested to hear that one! LOL
[quote] Totally understand what you're saying. I have stepped up and told her that I would not stand for anything anymore, and right now we are broken up (although titles dont matter, we're still practically together and I still plan on it). blah...blah..blah.. But is it really fair to make me wait so long to be with her again?
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Ok..perhaps both of you all are psychotic? Perhaps she's doing all this to hopefully try to get you to leave? I mean...you sound desperate here, like you plan on marrying her even though you are broken up with her. <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />
[quote]She always has an excuse everytime I want to come visit her or want her to visit. I'm being put 3rd or 4th or 5th. It's like....I put her first and foremost, so I expect the same from her. I can't be behind anything.<hr></blockquote>
See....this is what I'm talking about...
[quote]she is a grown woman <hr></blockquote>
How old is she? I was under the impression you two were like 16 years old?
Either you are, she is, or you both are full of shit.
I had a girl once whom I felt never put me as a very high priority on her list. And it bothered me, and I brought it up with her on an intermittently regular basis. I always thought of her in immediate relation to my life, but she never seemed to let me take any such priority in her life.
I gave her more of my life than I should have, and she let me. I did stupid things to try and get her to make me a higher priority without losing her, but really, it was quite simple what the problem was... she was just too young. She, for lack of sounding disgustingly, metaphorically cliché, was one of those beautiful birds that I was trying to keep caged if you will... she needed to be free.
It didn't have much to do with anything I was doing wrong... just that she didn't want to be tied up in anything, she wanted to be herself, etceteras.
<strong>I had a girl once whom I felt never put me as a very high priority on her list. And it bothered me, and I brought it up with her on an intermittently regular basis. I always thought of her in immediate relation to my life, but she never seemed to let me take any such priority in her life.
I gave her more of my life than I should have, and she let me. I did stupid things to try and get her to make me a higher priority without losing her, but really, it was quite simple what the problem was... she was just too young. She, for lack of sounding disgustingly, metaphorically cliché, was one of those beautiful birds that I was trying to keep caged if you will... she needed to be free.
It didn't have much to do with anything I was doing wrong... just that she didn't want to be tied up in anything, she wanted to be herself, etceteras.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Hey, Jack, did you buy the parrot ? an another bird that you can keep caged and who speak too much ...
Tiger, after reading your posts again i've come to the conclusion that she really isn't worth it. You two have been (or were) together for a long time and you guys supposedly love each other. I can see that you really love her and care about her, but are you positive she feels the same? Everything that you've said makes it seem like she doesn't. You're making a huge effort by wanting to travel a pretty long way to see her and she's telling you it's not the right time? WTF is up wit that? I know that I'd wanna see my girlfriend whenever possible if we lived that far away from each other. You make sure that she's #1 in your life and she puts other people in front of you? Again, WTF is up with that?
My ex girlfriend was like that. At first I lived close to her (when I lived in Queens) I had known her most of my life and we always had feelings for each other. We promised each other that no matter what, after I moved we'd stay together and things would work out. When I lived by here she treated me like shit most of the time. In school she would even ignore me and she was embarrased of me. She didn't even want people to know that we were together. All of my friends told me to break up with her but I couldn't, I loved her too much. EVERYONE seemed to be more important to her than me. I hated it because it was like my world revolved around her. I did everything for her that she wanted, I bought her things when she asked, and stuff like that. I had a talk with her about how I felt and she really made it seem like she didn't care. Even after that I stayed with her.
When I moved she still acted the same. Yeah, she came up here and stayed over here quite often, but still for the most part her other friends came before me. After a while of that I really couldn't take it anymore. No matter how much I loved her I got so mad and hated myself for staying with her for at that time a total of 19 months, so we broke up. I wanted to see what would happen, if she'd realize she was wrong and stuff like that. It turns out that when we broke up she realized and promised to change. I really didn't believe her but she proved to me in so many ways that she did love me and was different.
The point I'm trying to make is that sometimes it takes losing someone's love to change a person. Go find other girls and don't worry about Stefanie. Maybe when she finds out that she really lost you she'll come to her senses. Good luck man.
And here's my advice of the day : do not marry to early, i have seen many marriages who have failed because people where too youngs. You have to be fully mature both of you in order to make a good decision.
The important thing in marriage is to have a common project of live, it's not only a story of love.
Yeah....I would marry her. I'm positive she feels the same way about me....sometimes she has a weird way of showing it though. If she didn't, why would I have the letter from last summer she wrote? I Could type out what it says........but you can get the picture.
Nope. We're not quite 16. I am 18. Er can I should I reveal her age? Ok. She's....23.
It's unfair for you to say "you're broken up and yet you want to marry her". I did because of exact reasons that were stated in this thread. I did it as a resolve to maybe make things better in the long run and have her realize a few things. Just because we don't have the title associated with us of boyfriend and girlfriend right now, I promise you that you wouldn't know the difference. I've known her for quite some time and have been with her quite some time.
<strong>They do have my phone number. Her cousin lives like down the street from her or something and yeah.
How should I call when she has casts on both her arms? If she can't type on a computer she's not gonna be able to talk on a phone.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Well? When my father had a stroke they held the phone up to his ear.
Nope. We're not quite 16. I am 18. Er can I should I reveal her age? Ok. She's....23.
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I don't want to be unfair with you Tiger, but perhaps the problem in your relation is coming from the fact she is 23 and you only 18. Generally (but there is always exceptions) women of this age, are more concerned by man of their ages or older. Some women prefer younger men but generally they are between 30 and 40.
Perhaps she find that you are a nice friend, but too young to be really is b/f. In other way perhaps she has real sentiments for you and that's why she does not want to broke.
Dont misunderstand me, i do not say that you are too young to have a g/f, i just say that women of 23 prefer generally older guys.
BTW the yougness is the only illness that cure with the time, so if it is just a question of time, there is nothing to worry about it.
Hey, Jack, did you buy the parrot ? an another bird that you can keep caged and who speak too much ...
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Touché That was good...
Actually, I've been in touch with a breeder, we've been talking, I'm going to wait until I'm settled into my new place next month. I actually just dropped... a lot of money on a new custom made Titanium (Litespeed) Time Trial bike, so I should hold off
I'd like to know how Tiger managed to get involved with someone older than him. I want to date an older woman ready to settle down a little, but they all seem to know better than to date someone younger than them. it's like a principle thing; as soon as they figure out I"m younger than them they don't return my calls.
Actually, I've been in touch with a breeder, we've been talking, I'm going to wait until I'm settled into my new place next month. I actually just dropped... a lot of money on a new custom made Titanium (Litespeed) Time Trial bike, so I should hold off
I'd like to know how Tiger managed to get involved with someone older than him. I want to date an older woman ready to settle down a little, but they all seem to know better than to date someone younger than them. it's like a principle thing; as soon as they figure out I"m younger than them they don't return my calls. </strong><hr></blockquote>
Hm custom titanium trial bike, a lot of money, but the highest qualitie
For the girls, my wife is older than me
but only for three months
More seriously i wish to know to how Tiger manage to date with a girl older than him. How a boy of 16 (when he met her) date with a girl of 21 ?
Yeah....I would marry her. I'm positive she feels the same way about me....sometimes she has a weird way of showing it though.
Nope. We're not quite 16. I am 18. Er can I should I reveal her age? Ok. She's....23.
Just because we don't have the title associated with us of boyfriend and girlfriend right now, I promise you that you wouldn't know the difference. <hr></blockquote>
You are positive she feels the same way about you?
HA..could have fooled me!! I see (in the above posts) way too much indicators to the opposite. Damn, maybe YOU are the psycho one! :eek:
And her "weird way of showing it" to others may be indicators of not wanting to be with them....perhaps you need to take the hint?
She's 23 eh? And acts this way?
So did you call her yesterday like you said you would??
Has nothing to do with age. If she wasn't going to date somebody younger, she wouldn't have said yes to me when I asked her. Age is just a number. Of course girls want older guys, but that doesn't mean that she wouldn't want me. I wanted to date a younger girl before or somebody my age. SO why am I now in love with her?
If there's any problem with age, it's that her parents won't be too happy if they know how old I am. I don't care. You can't help who you love.
Perhaps at the time she didn't mind the age difference, but now she does? It happens. Women aren't as straightforward as they need to be with us men, I mean, we're rather dense creatures.
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We have been getting random phone calls for some time now. It is where you answer and nobody says anything ...and when you stay on the line for a while not saying anything they stay on not saying anything....I've stayed on walking around and just heard them breathing. Then I did star 69 and the number was an unknown number...wow. I've told my mom to call the police about it because she's gotten them too. I told Stef about this and she says the exact same thing has been happening to her too.
but do you really think theyd make something like that up? <hr></blockquote>
Yes, I do think she would make something like that up. I had it happen to me...except this girl was supposedly put on a ventilator to breathe while in the ICU then "escaped" (her words) to catch a taxi and then called me when she got home. When confronted with all the BS, she claims she has an evil twin sister...no kidding. It was my 1st time dealing with an absolute psychopath. Reading the IM that I saved every so often reminds me how there are strangers out there! (I would show you and am debating on posting it here..cause it would show you first hand)
[quote]I'll call her tomorrow and see<hr></blockquote>
Well...let us know. I would be really interested to hear that one! LOL
[quote] Totally understand what you're saying. I have stepped up and told her that I would not stand for anything anymore, and right now we are broken up (although titles dont matter, we're still practically together and I still plan on it). blah...blah..blah.. But is it really fair to make me wait so long to be with her again?
<hr></blockquote>
Ok..perhaps both of you all are psychotic? Perhaps she's doing all this to hopefully try to get you to leave? I mean...you sound desperate here, like you plan on marrying her even though you are broken up with her. <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />
[quote]She always has an excuse everytime I want to come visit her or want her to visit. I'm being put 3rd or 4th or 5th. It's like....I put her first and foremost, so I expect the same from her. I can't be behind anything.<hr></blockquote>
See....this is what I'm talking about...
[quote]she is a grown woman <hr></blockquote>
How old is she? I was under the impression you two were like 16 years old?
Either you are, she is, or you both are full of shit.
I gave her more of my life than I should have, and she let me. I did stupid things to try and get her to make me a higher priority without losing her, but really, it was quite simple what the problem was... she was just too young. She, for lack of sounding disgustingly, metaphorically cliché, was one of those beautiful birds that I was trying to keep caged if you will... she needed to be free.
It didn't have much to do with anything I was doing wrong... just that she didn't want to be tied up in anything, she wanted to be herself, etceteras.
<strong>I had a girl once whom I felt never put me as a very high priority on her list. And it bothered me, and I brought it up with her on an intermittently regular basis. I always thought of her in immediate relation to my life, but she never seemed to let me take any such priority in her life.
I gave her more of my life than I should have, and she let me. I did stupid things to try and get her to make me a higher priority without losing her, but really, it was quite simple what the problem was... she was just too young. She, for lack of sounding disgustingly, metaphorically cliché, was one of those beautiful birds that I was trying to keep caged if you will... she needed to be free.
It didn't have much to do with anything I was doing wrong... just that she didn't want to be tied up in anything, she wanted to be herself, etceteras.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Hey, Jack, did you buy the parrot ? an another bird that you can keep caged and who speak too much ...
My ex girlfriend was like that. At first I lived close to her (when I lived in Queens) I had known her most of my life and we always had feelings for each other. We promised each other that no matter what, after I moved we'd stay together and things would work out. When I lived by here she treated me like shit most of the time. In school she would even ignore me and she was embarrased of me. She didn't even want people to know that we were together. All of my friends told me to break up with her but I couldn't, I loved her too much. EVERYONE seemed to be more important to her than me. I hated it because it was like my world revolved around her. I did everything for her that she wanted, I bought her things when she asked, and stuff like that. I had a talk with her about how I felt and she really made it seem like she didn't care. Even after that I stayed with her.
When I moved she still acted the same. Yeah, she came up here and stayed over here quite often, but still for the most part her other friends came before me. After a while of that I really couldn't take it anymore. No matter how much I loved her I got so mad and hated myself for staying with her for at that time a total of 19 months, so we broke up. I wanted to see what would happen, if she'd realize she was wrong and stuff like that. It turns out that when we broke up she realized and promised to change. I really didn't believe her but she proved to me in so many ways that she did love me and was different.
The point I'm trying to make is that sometimes it takes losing someone's love to change a person. Go find other girls and don't worry about Stefanie. Maybe when she finds out that she really lost you she'll come to her senses. Good luck man.
The important thing in marriage is to have a common project of live, it's not only a story of love.
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<strong>Wow, that was a long post <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" /> That had to be my longest.</strong><hr></blockquote>
That's so bad, without thy last spamming post, we where ready to grant you a medal.
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That's so bad, without thy last spamming post, we where ready to grant you a medal.
Nope. We're not quite 16.
It's unfair for you to say "you're broken up and yet you want to marry her". I did because of exact reasons that were stated in this thread. I did it as a resolve to maybe make things better in the long run and have her realize a few things. Just because we don't have the title associated with us of boyfriend and girlfriend right now, I promise you that you wouldn't know the difference. I've known her for quite some time and have been with her quite some time.
<strong>They do have my phone number. Her cousin lives like down the street from her or something and yeah.
How should I call when she has casts on both her arms? If she can't type on a computer she's not gonna be able to talk on a phone.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Well? When my father had a stroke they held the phone up to his ear.
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Nope. We're not quite 16.
.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I don't want to be unfair with you Tiger, but perhaps the problem in your relation is coming from the fact she is 23 and you only 18. Generally (but there is always exceptions) women of this age, are more concerned by man of their ages or older. Some women prefer younger men but generally they are between 30 and 40.
Perhaps she find that you are a nice friend, but too young to be really is b/f. In other way perhaps she has real sentiments for you and that's why she does not want to broke.
Dont misunderstand me, i do not say that you are too young to have a g/f, i just say that women of 23 prefer generally older guys.
BTW the yougness is the only illness that cure with the time, so if it is just a question of time, there is nothing to worry about it.
<strong>
Hey, Jack, did you buy the parrot ? an another bird that you can keep caged and who speak too much ...
Touché
Actually, I've been in touch with a breeder, we've been talking, I'm going to wait until I'm settled into my new place next month. I actually just dropped... a lot of money on a new custom made Titanium (Litespeed) Time Trial bike, so I should hold off
I'd like to know how Tiger managed to get involved with someone older than him. I want to date an older woman ready to settle down a little, but they all seem to know better than to date someone younger than them. it's like a principle thing; as soon as they figure out I"m younger than them they don't return my calls.
<strong>
Touché
Actually, I've been in touch with a breeder, we've been talking, I'm going to wait until I'm settled into my new place next month. I actually just dropped... a lot of money on a new custom made Titanium (Litespeed) Time Trial bike, so I should hold off
I'd like to know how Tiger managed to get involved with someone older than him. I want to date an older woman ready to settle down a little, but they all seem to know better than to date someone younger than them. it's like a principle thing; as soon as they figure out I"m younger than them they don't return my calls.
Hm custom titanium trial bike, a lot of money, but the highest qualitie
For the girls, my wife is older than me
but only for three months
More seriously i wish to know to how Tiger manage to date with a girl older than him. How a boy of 16 (when he met her) date with a girl of 21 ?
I think it's the key of their strange relations.
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Yeah....I would marry her. I'm positive she feels the same way about me....sometimes she has a weird way of showing it though.
Nope. We're not quite 16.
Just because we don't have the title associated with us of boyfriend and girlfriend right now, I promise you that you wouldn't know the difference. <hr></blockquote>
You are positive she feels the same way about you?
HA..could have fooled me!! I see (in the above posts) way too much indicators to the opposite. Damn, maybe YOU are the psycho one! :eek:
And her "weird way of showing it" to others may be indicators of not wanting to be with them....perhaps you need to take the hint?
She's 23 eh? And acts this way?
So did you call her yesterday like you said you would??
it could have been much worse.
she could be dead...
hands... it'll take some weeks or months, then hopefully she'll be ok.
i lost a friend on a car accident... ages ago.
i was 15, he 21.. wasn't my BF yet.. i was too young.. but he was about tu turn to be it.
and by that time he was the only friend i had..
hugs...
also for her
take care
[QB]
And her "weird way of showing it" to others may be indicators of not wanting to be with them....perhaps you need to take the hint?
She's 23 eh? And acts this way?
QB]<hr></blockquote>
Perhaps she is telling you that she doesn't want to be with you, in the best way she knows how, but you simply aren't listening.
If there's any problem with age, it's that her parents won't be too happy if they know how old I am. I don't care. You can't help who you love.
And yes, I am positive.