Android 3.0 Honeycomb more akin to Tablet PC than iPad

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  • Reply 41 of 282
    Here are some of my thoughts:



    In Honeycomb, Google is offering much more options and features, at the price of being rougher around the edges, which is the cost of being flexible with an open market.



    In the iPad 2, Apple will continue to do what it did really well with the iPad, maintain a simple but focused user interface.



    Overtime, both will be drawn closer to one another and borrow certain features. iOS will borrow Android's notifications bar, Android will borrow some of iOS's gestures, but they each will continue to maintain the above stance.



    Both OS's will be extremely popular. With options and choices, consumers win. Apple will continue to drive Google to improve, and Google will drive Apple to do the same.



    Within 2 years, the Android tablet userbase will surpass iOS's. And with the larger user-base, Android will draw in an increasing number of (iOS) developers.



    Once everything is stabilized, Android will own the majority of the smartphone AND tablet space. But iOS will continue to serve its loyal fanbase with a very sharp and purposeful UX for its products.
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  • Reply 42 of 282
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by graxspoo View Post


    Doesn't look appealing to me, but then, I think the iPad is dumb also. Who wants a laptop with no keyboard? Who wants a cellphone you can't fit in your pocket. Ok, all those iPad sales say I'm wrong. I guess people have more money than brains.



    I encourage you to look at iPad with fresh eyes and challenge your own assumptions. Imagine if the iPad had been around for 20 years, and suddenly Apple released something tomorrow called the "laptop".



    You'd say that a laptop is powerful, but bulky. Lacks a touchscreen. Does a lot of stuff, but the UI makes me move an arrow around a push down a button under the keyboard...It's really good at typing but not at moving things around or formatting. It has tons of storage space but is probably more prone to failure due to all the moving parts. It's certainly not as intimate - like snuggling up with a typewriter.



    I'm just saying that all devices have their pros and cons, and I think too many people only view the iPad in terms of its weaknesses relative to laptops. We don't ever stop to think about all the weaknesses a laptop has!
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  • Reply 43 of 282
    boeyc15boeyc15 Posts: 986member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by amicablealligator View Post


    Here are some of my thoughts:



    In Honeycomb, Google is offering much more options and features, at the price of being rougher around the edges, which is the cost of being flexible with an open market.



    In the iPad 2, Apple will continue to do what it did really well with the iPad, maintain a simple but focused user interface.



    Overtime, both will be drawn closer to one another and borrow certain features. iOS will borrow Android's notifications bar, Android will borrow some of iOS's gestures, but they each will continue to maintain the above stance.



    Both OS's will be extremely popular. With options and choices, consumers win. Apple will continue to drive Google to improve, and Google will drive Apple to do the same.



    Within 2 years, the Android tablet userbase will surpass iOS's. And with the larger user-base, Android will draw in an increasing number of (iOS) developers.



    Once everything is stabilized, Android will own the majority of the smartphone AND tablet space. But iOS will continue to serve its loyal fanbase with a very sharp and purposeful UX for its products.



    Probably true. How ever, in terms of market share, if there is not a compelling reason to 'standardize' to Android (ala windows and office), IMO Apple has a good chance to be 50% or more. I don't think they will maintain higher unless they can maintain/continue a close price comparison. If they can, watch out, they could dominate like iPod.
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  • Reply 44 of 282
    povilaspovilas Posts: 473member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by amicablealligator View Post


    And with the larger user-base, Android will draw in an increasing number of (iOS) developers.



    That's hard to believe.
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  • Reply 45 of 282
    realisticrealistic Posts: 1,154member
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    Originally Posted by jw915 View Post


    You're a fool if you think Apple is protecting you from that. Apple's review process cannot catch any of that, as several high profile blunders have shown where people smuggled secret functionality into apps that were only pulled when people started telling Apple about it. At best, Apple can pull dangerous apps from the App Store once they get user complaints. But that's the same thing Google does with Market.



    Unlike iOS, however, where your applications run largely unprotected, Android's permission system actually enforces protections for apps, so if the app doesn't request access to personal information, you can be certain that it won't get any either.



    Are you actually from this planet?
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  • Reply 46 of 282
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by bodypainter View Post


    if they wrap this up in a nice price, they will have a great success with it, simply because once apple is too expensive. apple has now got all the early adopters, apple fans and loyal fanbase. but that's it! many, many people out there buy things only if they can afford them. apple, it would be time for an ipad and an ipad pro! the ipad pro is what we have right now (including camera, retina display, aluminum design) and the "other" ipad is plastic/rubber, "normal" display, bad facetime cam and comes in black, white, orange, tangerine, green and pink! and it also has a price tag of 299 us$ for the white, and 349 us$ for the other pads!



    Android tablet is much more expensive, considering that you must buy new one every 6 months because next version of Android OS doesn't support more than 6 months old devices.
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  • Reply 47 of 282
    gwydiongwydion Posts: 1,083member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by fuwafuwa View Post


    Android tablet is much more expensive, considering that you must buy new one every 6 months because next version of Android OS doesn't support more than 6 months old devices.







    This is not true
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  • Reply 48 of 282
    povilaspovilas Posts: 473member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Gwydion View Post






    This is not true



    Not always.
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  • Reply 49 of 282
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Gwydion View Post






    This is not true



    E.g., Honeycomb requires dual cores, while Galaxy Tab (how old is that?) is only single core.

    That's common for Android makers, because of the thin margin, they want people to buy their new products as they release.
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  • Reply 50 of 282
    gwydiongwydion Posts: 1,083member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by fuwafuwa View Post


    E.g., Honeycomb requires dual cores, while Galaxy Tab (how old is that?) is only single core.

    That's common for Android makers, because of the thin margin, they want people to buy their new products as they release.



    Honeycomb doesn't requieres dual cores.
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  • Reply 51 of 282
    I've use both the iPad and Samsung Galaxy Tab, and in terms of productivity I think the Tab is better because it can do more. Having said that, I still love my iPad better because of its library of apps, and yes, because iPads are just cool! But I do agree with Google's statement that iOS is just a "warehouse of app". iOS needs to have a customizeable home/lock screen for business users. Of course you can get these apps through the Cydia store, but Apple need to finally make these features standard in iOS.
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  • Reply 52 of 282
    povilaspovilas Posts: 473member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by capoeira4u View Post


    and I think the Tab is better because it can do more.



    Do more for who?
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  • Reply 53 of 282
    irnchrizirnchriz Posts: 1,617member
    It looks fairly interesting. The more varied tablet operating systems there are the better for consumers. It gives you more choice so you can find a perfect fit for your needs. It also increases pressure on Microsoft / Apple / Google to raise the bar for quality and features.



    I know that most of the naysayers are trolling just for the sake of trolling but the other option is that EVERYONE is the same, we all end up using iOS or Android or Windows. You can imagine what a horrible world that would be.
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  • Reply 54 of 282
    I actually felt the need to register so I could reply to this.



    I fail to believe that Apple customers who have above average income and hopefully above average IQ are incapable of assessing a competing product from a neutral, non-biased perspective. Seriously people!



    This article omitted the "buy on the web automatically downloaded to phone" aspect of the web Android Market. You might love iTunes, and connecting your iPhone via USB, but surely you can see that there might be some merit in browsing on your computer and having it appear on the phone automatically? It's a good feature, which is why the author chose to omit it.



    Similarly, this is a laughable pot shot:



    "The difference is that Apple's web store links to iTunes for purchases, which can be made via credit cards (since 2008); Google still only accepts its own Google Checkout for payments."



    How is registering for an iTunes account and adding your credit card details any different from registering for a Google Checkout account and adding your credit card details? How do you think you pay via Google Checkout if it isn't via a card?! Come on!



    Caveat: massive Apple fan since 2003.

    Likes reading objective news and forming his own opinion.
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  • Reply 55 of 282
    sambansamban Posts: 171member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by bmovie View Post


    3/4's of the World do not use toilet paper. They use their left hand and a bowl of water.



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  • Reply 56 of 282
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by graxspoo View Post


    Doesn't look appealing to me, but then, I think the iPad is dumb also. Who wants a laptop with no keyboard? Who wants a cellphone you can't fit in your pocket. Ok, all those iPad sales say I'm wrong. I guess people have more money than brains.



    I guess people have more money than brains.



    You are confused. People with brains usually have money (disposable income.)



    It is what keeps the market going. You must be an Obama handout person.
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  • Reply 57 of 282
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jamrolu View Post


    I actually felt the need to register so I could reply to this.



    I fail to believe that Apple customers who have above average income and hopefully above average IQ are incapable of assessing a competing product from a neutral, non-biased perspective. Seriously people!



    This article omitted the "buy on the web automatically downloaded to phone" aspect of the web Android Market. You might love iTunes, and connecting your iPhone via USB, but surely you can see that there might be some merit in browsing on your computer and having it appear on the phone automatically? It's a good feature, which is why the author chose to omit it.



    That's not important point, because we can do that on iPhone or Android. Or do you think iPhone user must use iTunes to buy and download apps? Even you can download apps as big as 1.4G OTA, while Android is limited to 25M.



    Quote:

    Similarly, this is a laughable pot shot:



    "The difference is that Apple's web store links to iTunes for purchases, which can be made via credit cards (since 2008); Google still only accepts its own Google Checkout for payments."



    How is registering for an iTunes account and adding your credit card details any different from registering for a Google Checkout account and adding your credit card details? How do you think you pay via Google Checkout if it isn't via a card?! Come on!



    The laughable point is not that, but the fact that paid Android apps only offered in 9 countries. So what's the point of adding credit card to Google Checkout?



    Quote:

    Caveat: massive Apple fan since 2003.

    Likes reading objective news and forming his own opinion.



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  • Reply 58 of 282
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by fuwafuwa View Post


    That's not important point, because we can do that on iPhone or Android. Or do you think iPhone user must use iTunes to buy and download apps? Even you can download apps as big as 1.4G OTA, while Android is limited to 25M.



    I didn't say that. An iPhone user can't browse iTunes on the computer and have it automatically load to the phone. That was my point.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by fuwafuwa View Post


    The laughable point is not that, but the fact that paid Android apps only offered in 9 countries. So what's the point of adding credit card to Google Checkout?



    You are right, but again, that's a different point altogether. The point the author made was about iTunes accounts and credit cards, not worldwide presence.



    Changing the subject isn't the same as answering the point
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  • Reply 59 of 282
    gwydiongwydion Posts: 1,083member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by fuwafuwa View Post


    while Android is limited to 25M.



    Main apps is limited to 50MB, but it can download wathever it wants, 10KB, 3GB of data



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by fuwafuwa View Post


    The laughable point is not that, but the fact that paid Android apps only offered in 9 countries. So what's the point of adding credit card to Google Checkout?



    Nop, at least on 35 countries you can buy paid apps.





    Please, can you inform a little before talinkg about you know nothing?
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  • Reply 60 of 282
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SDIOWarrior View Post


    I guess people have more money than brains.



    You are confused. People with brains usually have money (disposable income.)



    It is what keeps the market going. You must be an Obama handout person.



    As I understand it, since you take the thread to politics, most of the money in the United States is actually gained/kept through government policies (non-taxing of the richest, etc...)

    You must be a McCain/Fox News person?
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