So basically Android 3.0 is Geek/Tech Savvy optimized. iOS is grandma, mom, sister, kid, doctor, accountant, numb nuts, George W. Bush, Jessica Simpson, the dude who's got better things to do than f*#k around with widgets customization, and pretty much everyone else optimized.
True but with one correction.
One doesn't have to be a dumbass to be an iOS user, one just has to be someone who doesn't understand detailed technological management and just wants the device to work like the information appliance it really is.
So, you could be a genius but still not know about computers.
This is the classic mistake that all geeks make. The idea that people who don't know or care about the technical side of computer management are "dumb," when in fact they are just people who care about different things.
All kinds of scientists and nobel prize winning writers and artists (with IQ's higher than most of the guys who actually program Android!), are in this camp. They use Macs and now iOS devices only because they don't want to spend time learning all the ins and outs of computer stuff. That doesn't make them dumb.
One doesn't have to be a dumbass to be an iOS user, one just has to be someone who doesn't understand detailed technological management and just wants the device to work like the information appliance it really is.
So, you could be a genius but still not know about computers.
This is the classic mistake that all geeks make. The idea that people who don't know or care about the technical side of computer management are "dumb," when in fact they are just people who care about different things.
All kinds of scientists and nobel prize winning writers and artists (with IQ's higher than most of the guys who actually program Android!), are in this camp. They use Macs and now iOS devices only because they don't want to spend time learning all the ins and outs of computer stuff. That doesn't make them dumb.
And why with an Android phone do you have to spend time learning all the ins and outs?
Not really related to this discussion, but the New York Times is reporting a rumor that Nokia plans to abandon Symbian and adopt Windows Phone 7 for its smartphones: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/04/te...y/04nokia.html
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BERLIN ? Shares of Nokia, the mobile phone market leader, climbed for a fourth day on Thursday amid speculation that the company may be poised to announce a software alliance with Microsoft designed to revive its struggling U.S. smartphone business.
Nokia?s shares have risen more than 4 percent since Monday when an analyst, Adnaan Ahmad of Berenberg Bank in Hamburg, urged the Nokia chief executive ? and former Microsoft executive ? Stephen Elop, to form an alliance that would put Microsoft?s Phone operating system on Nokia?s advanced smartphones.
I don't think it's better than iOS, but it is different.
Android has been ahead of iOS on pretty much everything since day one: multitasking, security, input methods, widgets, app integration, ease of development. Give it another year or two and Apple will talk about widgets as if they invented them.
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Looks like more fragmentation for Android OS/devices.
No more than iPhone/iPad: there are a few apps that run only on high-end devices, everything else runs on all devices.
You're a fool if you think Apple is protecting you from that. Apple's review process cannot catch any of that, as several high profile blunders have shown where people smuggled secret functionality into apps that were only pulled when people started telling Apple about it. At best, Apple can pull dangerous apps from the App Store once they get user complaints. But that's the same thing Google does with Market ...
For someone calling others a fool, you are sure making some illogical statements here.
For starters, the idea that Apple can't stop malicious apps because some of these have already gotten through and been discovered after the fact in no way at all proves your hypothesis. You imply that there are possibly apps that have "gotten through" that no one knows anything about and also that the fact that they got through at all means that Apple has no way of stopping such things. But you have no data and no idea of how many apps might have been "caught" by Apple and therefore never released. That data isn't available, so you simply can't know it.
The data that is available proves the reverse of what you are asserting. What *actually* happened is that out of hundreds of thousands of apps, a very tiny number "got through" with some unknown of malicious content. These however, were immediately discovered and removed or altered until they were harmless again.
Needless to say this is a record of great success, not one of failure as you claim.
Honeycomb looks very slick to me. One thing they got right is to not require a home button. It makes no sense in a tablet, specially in portrait mode....
You obviously know nothing about industrial design.
Please! They get 100,000 apps a month to review of course they aren't going to catch everything. Google lets everyone play and they still only have 100k in apps.
Be that as it may, the fact remains: security is a much bigger concern on iOS than on Android, because the only thing between you and a Chinese data thief on iOS is an overworked app reviewer who has already shown they are completely incapable of catching anything.
So basically Android 3.0 is Geek/Tech Savvy optimized. iOS is grandma, mom, sister, kid, doctor, accountant, numb nuts, George W. Bush, Jessica Simpson, the dude who's got better things to do than f*#k around with widgets customization, and pretty much everyone else optimized.
iOS requires you to install iTunes and sync regularly. Android phones and tablets do everything over the air; you turn them on and they just work, sync, and update automatically.
Most people have better things to do than futz around with desktop apps and syncing just in order to read a book or browse the web.
iOS's tedious integration with iTunes (which is itself a p.o.s.) is one of the reasons I'm using my iPad less and less.
If you are happy with your Tab, then go away. All 15 million iPad users are probably not as smart as you are and Steve Jobs will be phoning you in a few minutes for advice on how to save Apple computer. Please help.
Steve Jobs has other things to worry about right now. And if you look at the sales numbers, iPhone is already losing market share, and it's going to be the same with iPad.
Apple rushes premium and premium-priced products to market to cash in on new trends. It's what the company has been doing since their very first products. The market always belongs to someone else in the end.
This is silly case. Why the blogger provide link to Android market but only provide application name for iPhone user? Clever blogger can copy the app's iTunes link and put in his blog. When iPhone user tap the link, it will open App Store application, buy, download, then back to Safari. Second, I may have several iDevice registered with 1 iTunes account. My wife doesn't want a soccer game installed automatically on her iPod, as I don't want cooking apps on my iPhone either. That's cool Android feature, but geeky and provides almost no value.
I figured they could do the same. But with their link method, you still have to go the extra step of syncing your iDevice with iTunes before the app actually appears on the device, yes? Google has automated and made the sync wireless for you. That's where the value is added.
As for your comment about not wanting apps appear on other devices. It seems the webstore Market allows for you to select/deselect which device you have registered to your Google account to download to when you hit the install button. It's not a "spam all devices under the user account" deal.
Apple is all about the "magical" right? Then for this case, tell me what's more magical. Having to attach the device to the desktop/laptop with a cable to sync the information to the device. Or have the information appear on the device without having to touch it?
An interesting argument, but, in fact, it's the proprietary Google stuff that makes Android Android. Without that all you have is just another Linux smartphone.
An interesting argument, but, in fact, it's the proprietary Google stuff that makes Android Android. Without that all you have is just another Linux smartphone.
No, without GMail or Google Maps you have only an Android device withouth those programs, nothing less, nothing more.
Steve Jobs has other things to worry about right now. And if you look at the sales numbers, iPhone is already losing market share, and it's going to be the same with iPad.
Apple rushes premium and premium-priced products to market to cash in on new trends. It's what the company has been doing since their very first products. The market always belongs to someone else in the end.
iPhone's market share dropped only because Apple couldn't supply enough of it to satisfy all demand, and that there are inevitably people who find BOGO or some other similar discounted deal more important than the device itself. Those will turn out to be poor customers for the apps and contents in Android markets.
So you think markets always belong to someone else because Apple products are "premium priced". Remind me who owns the portable music player market right now, and how soon will Apple be completely driven out of it.
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So basically Android 3.0 is Geek/Tech Savvy optimized. iOS is grandma, mom, sister, kid, doctor, accountant, numb nuts, George W. Bush, Jessica Simpson, the dude who's got better things to do than f*#k around with widgets customization, and pretty much everyone else optimized.
True but with one correction.
One doesn't have to be a dumbass to be an iOS user, one just has to be someone who doesn't understand detailed technological management and just wants the device to work like the information appliance it really is.
So, you could be a genius but still not know about computers.
This is the classic mistake that all geeks make. The idea that people who don't know or care about the technical side of computer management are "dumb," when in fact they are just people who care about different things.
All kinds of scientists and nobel prize winning writers and artists (with IQ's higher than most of the guys who actually program Android!), are in this camp. They use Macs and now iOS devices only because they don't want to spend time learning all the ins and outs of computer stuff. That doesn't make them dumb.
True but with one correction.
One doesn't have to be a dumbass to be an iOS user, one just has to be someone who doesn't understand detailed technological management and just wants the device to work like the information appliance it really is.
So, you could be a genius but still not know about computers.
This is the classic mistake that all geeks make. The idea that people who don't know or care about the technical side of computer management are "dumb," when in fact they are just people who care about different things.
All kinds of scientists and nobel prize winning writers and artists (with IQ's higher than most of the guys who actually program Android!), are in this camp. They use Macs and now iOS devices only because they don't want to spend time learning all the ins and outs of computer stuff. That doesn't make them dumb.
And why with an Android phone do you have to spend time learning all the ins and outs?
Yes, they're a fork of Android.
With all the stuff that makes Android Android removed.
With all the stuff that makes Android Android removed.
Yes? Which stuff?
BERLIN ? Shares of Nokia, the mobile phone market leader, climbed for a fourth day on Thursday amid speculation that the company may be poised to announce a software alliance with Microsoft designed to revive its struggling U.S. smartphone business.
Nokia?s shares have risen more than 4 percent since Monday when an analyst, Adnaan Ahmad of Berenberg Bank in Hamburg, urged the Nokia chief executive ? and former Microsoft executive ? Stephen Elop, to form an alliance that would put Microsoft?s Phone operating system on Nokia?s advanced smartphones.
I don't think it's better than iOS, but it is different.
Android has been ahead of iOS on pretty much everything since day one: multitasking, security, input methods, widgets, app integration, ease of development. Give it another year or two and Apple will talk about widgets as if they invented them.
Looks like more fragmentation for Android OS/devices.
No more than iPhone/iPad: there are a few apps that run only on high-end devices, everything else runs on all devices.
You're a fool if you think Apple is protecting you from that. Apple's review process cannot catch any of that, as several high profile blunders have shown where people smuggled secret functionality into apps that were only pulled when people started telling Apple about it. At best, Apple can pull dangerous apps from the App Store once they get user complaints. But that's the same thing Google does with Market ...
For someone calling others a fool, you are sure making some illogical statements here.
For starters, the idea that Apple can't stop malicious apps because some of these have already gotten through and been discovered after the fact in no way at all proves your hypothesis. You imply that there are possibly apps that have "gotten through" that no one knows anything about and also that the fact that they got through at all means that Apple has no way of stopping such things. But you have no data and no idea of how many apps might have been "caught" by Apple and therefore never released. That data isn't available, so you simply can't know it.
The data that is available proves the reverse of what you are asserting. What *actually* happened is that out of hundreds of thousands of apps, a very tiny number "got through" with some unknown of malicious content. These however, were immediately discovered and removed or altered until they were harmless again.
Needless to say this is a record of great success, not one of failure as you claim.
Yes, they're a fork of Android.
Which are meaningless for Android app developers.
Yes? Which stuff?
All of the proprietary Google stuff, including the Marketplace, and they have their own separate SDKs.
These OSs are simply not part of the Android ecosystem.
All of the proprietary Google stuff, including the Marketplace, and they have their own separate SDKs.
These OSs are simply not part of the Android ecosystem.
Ups, Google stuff is not part of Android
Honeycomb looks very slick to me. One thing they got right is to not require a home button. It makes no sense in a tablet, specially in portrait mode....
You obviously know nothing about industrial design.
Please! They get 100,000 apps a month to review of course they aren't going to catch everything. Google lets everyone play and they still only have 100k in apps.
Be that as it may, the fact remains: security is a much bigger concern on iOS than on Android, because the only thing between you and a Chinese data thief on iOS is an overworked app reviewer who has already shown they are completely incapable of catching anything.
So basically Android 3.0 is Geek/Tech Savvy optimized. iOS is grandma, mom, sister, kid, doctor, accountant, numb nuts, George W. Bush, Jessica Simpson, the dude who's got better things to do than f*#k around with widgets customization, and pretty much everyone else optimized.
iOS requires you to install iTunes and sync regularly. Android phones and tablets do everything over the air; you turn them on and they just work, sync, and update automatically.
Most people have better things to do than futz around with desktop apps and syncing just in order to read a book or browse the web.
iOS's tedious integration with iTunes (which is itself a p.o.s.) is one of the reasons I'm using my iPad less and less.
If you are happy with your Tab, then go away. All 15 million iPad users are probably not as smart as you are and Steve Jobs will be phoning you in a few minutes for advice on how to save Apple computer. Please help.
Steve Jobs has other things to worry about right now. And if you look at the sales numbers, iPhone is already losing market share, and it's going to be the same with iPad.
Apple rushes premium and premium-priced products to market to cash in on new trends. It's what the company has been doing since their very first products. The market always belongs to someone else in the end.
This is silly case. Why the blogger provide link to Android market but only provide application name for iPhone user? Clever blogger can copy the app's iTunes link and put in his blog. When iPhone user tap the link, it will open App Store application, buy, download, then back to Safari. Second, I may have several iDevice registered with 1 iTunes account. My wife doesn't want a soccer game installed automatically on her iPod, as I don't want cooking apps on my iPhone either. That's cool Android feature, but geeky and provides almost no value.
I figured they could do the same. But with their link method, you still have to go the extra step of syncing your iDevice with iTunes before the app actually appears on the device, yes? Google has automated and made the sync wireless for you. That's where the value is added.
As for your comment about not wanting apps appear on other devices. It seems the webstore Market allows for you to select/deselect which device you have registered to your Google account to download to when you hit the install button. It's not a "spam all devices under the user account" deal.
Apple is all about the "magical" right? Then for this case, tell me what's more magical. Having to attach the device to the desktop/laptop with a cable to sync the information to the device. Or have the information appear on the device without having to touch it?
I really don't see why you're so set against it.
Ups, Google stuff is not part of Android
An interesting argument, but, in fact, it's the proprietary Google stuff that makes Android Android. Without that all you have is just another Linux smartphone.
An interesting argument, but, in fact, it's the proprietary Google stuff that makes Android Android. Without that all you have is just another Linux smartphone.
No, without GMail or Google Maps you have only an Android device withouth those programs, nothing less, nothing more.
Steve Jobs has other things to worry about right now. And if you look at the sales numbers, iPhone is already losing market share, and it's going to be the same with iPad.
Apple rushes premium and premium-priced products to market to cash in on new trends. It's what the company has been doing since their very first products. The market always belongs to someone else in the end.
iPhone's market share dropped only because Apple couldn't supply enough of it to satisfy all demand, and that there are inevitably people who find BOGO or some other similar discounted deal more important than the device itself. Those will turn out to be poor customers for the apps and contents in Android markets.
So you think markets always belong to someone else because Apple products are "premium priced". Remind me who owns the portable music player market right now, and how soon will Apple be completely driven out of it.
You created this account to type this
So someone is interested in the discussion, creates an account just to share their thoughts, and then you crap all over their very first post?
Who's the fool then? I don't think it's her/him.
No, without GMail or Google Maps you have only an Android device withouth those programs, nothing less, nothing more.
Okay... so tell me this...
Can you install Android 2.2 or any other Android os other than Tapas on a Tapas phone?