Android fans are going to be all over this thing. It's an andronerd's wet dream.
I don't think it's better than iOS, but it is different. It's nice to see that Google didn't just blatantly copy Apple outright like M$ does.
I don't think Apple should change their tablet interface much, but I wouldn't mind seeing something like the equivalent of dashboard for the iPad, vertical scrolling of apps instead of 'page-swiping' only, and customization of size and spacing for app icons.
Looks like more fragmentation for Android OS/devices.
Interesting article with some good info, but it does have an obvious DED spin.
Honeycomb is likely to bring better productivity apps to tablets than iOS. Apple needs to step up their game in this respect. The iPad needs to be more than just a consumption device, and clearly Honeycomb is taking Android tablets in the direction of useful tools. There is no reason Apple can't do the same with iPad, and do it better.
Flame if you want but I actually like the idea that Google have sat down, thought about how they would want a 10" tablet interface to work, and then customized Android from the ground up for that interface.
What Google have created is something distinctly different from what the iPad offers. I can't say I'm personally be interested is buying one, but I appreciate that Google are offering an alternative.
We can't Google-bash when they copy what Apple does and then Google-bash again when they don't.
What can you really tell from one screen shot and no hands on experience with it?????
Flame if you want but I actually like the idea that Google have sat down, thought about how they would want a 10" tablet interface to work, and then customized Android from the ground up for that interface.
What Google have created is something distinctly different from what the iPad offers. I can't say I'm personally be interested is buying one, but I appreciate that Google are offering an alternative.
We can't Google-bash when they copy what Apple does and then Google-bash again when they don't.
Exactly. I love how Honeycomb brings features I'd expect on a desktop/laptop level OS into the tablet world and retains all the features of its phone version. For example, the rich notifications that fade into a simple tray icon. Gets your attention quickly, but doesn't get into your face, requiring you deal with it then and now. And the multitasking previews of where you left the app off a la Windows Vista/7.
This is definitely not just a bigger Android phone (like the Galaxy Tab is).
Android fans are going to be all over this thing. It's an andronerd's wet dream.
I don't think it's better than iOS, but it is different. It's nice to see that Google didn't just blatantly copy Apple outright like M$ does.
I don't think Apple should change their tablet interface much, but I wouldn't mind seeing something like the equivalent of dashboard for the iPad, vertical scrolling of apps instead of 'page-swiping' only, and customization of size and spacing for app icons.
Looks like more fragmentation for Android OS/devices.
Interesting article with some good info, but it does have an obvious DED spin.
Honeycomb is likely to bring better productivity apps to tablets than iOS. Apple needs to step up their game in this respect. The iPad needs to be more than just a consumption device, and clearly Honeycomb is taking Android tablets in the direction of useful tools. There is no reason Apple can't do the same with iPad, and do it better.
I'm sorry but what are you talking about when you say "Honeycomb is likely to bring better productivity apps"? What nonsense - an app is an app, not the OS home screen, and apple wins the app game hands down. Android also has a huge issue with developers not being able to make much money because the sales channels are a mess, and because android is the favorite with the hacking community that doesn't want to pay for anything.
Yep I'm an iPad sheep. So are my family including a 7 year old who picked it up and was comfortable in its use after 5 mins, after 30 mins became fluent.
But I guess you fandroids don't get simplicity do you.
All fail with your reasoning that computers are complicated and for serious work and definitely not for the non-IT crowd.
How guess what ? I'm a computer programmer, but I still prefer the pure simplicity of my Apple products any day.
By the way your assertion that Android is the number 1 mobile OS is actually not true, I suggest you retract this and actually do some research, but I guess fandroids don't have to, right ?
Count iPod, iPad and iPhone which all are capable of using iOS4.2 (unlike android hardware that is fragmentation hell), iOS is way ahead of android OS. Your ignorance/lies are astonishing.
i agree.
android is like Windows 95. i reboot it quite a bit whereas i don't even remember how to do a hard reboot on the ipad...(i have had one user that actually needed a hard reboot on the ipad)
i like the idea of 'playing' with honeycomb and will probably get one but that doesn't mean it is any good. plus i still can't get netflix on android.
I do believe it came straight from Google's mouths that Honeycomb is optimized to take advantage of however many processor cores you have. Whether it's a single core phone of the present or dual core tablets and phones coming out soon.
I just think that Apple has a large lead on Google, right now, but with its hard-nosed stance with developers and the fact that it dictates a lot of limitations in the device anddoesn't let the users decide (as in Flash), Google is going to eventually win this race. Developers have been tired of Apple's crap for some time now. As Google Android devices become more popular, and they will, you'll see a lot more developers move away from iOS and more toward Android.
As far as one device vs. the other, I think it remains to be seen. Apple's devices have strong points, as do Android devices. Just keep dismissing Google Android like GM, Ford, and Chrysler did the likes of Honda and Toyota and watch what happens. Android is going to become the Windows of mobile devices.
Um, Apple borrow anything from android, are you kidding me ?
We are talking about the spawn of the devil that was stolen by Google, remember this piece of history ? If you are going to post, try and make yourself look un-trollish as possible please.
As I stated repeatedly there will be thousands of android handsets and tables, the differentiation will be so blurred by the multitude of screen sizes, that soon no one will know whether its an android phone or tablet.
Then there will be the 20 - 30, if not more, versions of the android OS.
So Mr. Joe public will know which one to get will he ? Will he chance on "X", hoping that it can play Angry Birds ? Imagine him sitting there waiting months for an OS update, while tens of new android crap ware have hit the market with OS version n.n.
Tell me genius boy, how is the general product going to choose ?
I think android will increase in popularity with regards to tablets (there are after all geeks out there and cheap skates), but will soon be so over super saturated with their BOGO, that they will be a blur in the eyes of the consumer, who will be soon tire of having to many choices and start buying the iPad. So in effect androids early popularity will be it's undoing.
By the way, a couple of things, is having the greater market more profitable, Apple certainly doesn't think so ($57 billion cash reserves), hight stock value and share prices, but I guess that is irrelevant right ?
Also Samsung were caught out in their lies on galaxy tabs shipped vs actual sales, the same applies to android phones, and why wouldn't it. So I question the myth of android taking over the smart phone market. I hardly see them, but always see iPhones everywhere.
To add to this, people should see how ipod single handedly removed every competition in the long run. Is there any andriod player in that category that can repeat the success, I guess the answer is no. Iphone lost ground due to carrier lockup, Apple did learn from that and started pushing ipad to every possible retail channel. So, that when people go out there they can see an ipad and also a competition unlike the iphone. This itself is bigger challenge to overcome for google and company than having 3d home screen with loads of widgets. People love simple solutions & is the most difficult art to master also.
Doesn't look appealing to me, but then, I think the iPad is dumb also. Who wants a laptop with no keyboard? Who wants a cellphone you can't fit in your pocket. Ok, all those iPad sales say I'm wrong. I guess people have more money than brains.
If the iPad and other new slate-style tablets had included stylus support through the use of buying a separate stylus (nice way to make a bit more profit for Apple and the others - and avoid charging people for something they may not need) and included true handwriting input similar to that included in Windows 7 then the iPad would have been a students most prized possession.
I would have snatched up an iPad if it had this one extra feature because it would have been truly usable in the classroom as a notepad. Typing on it to take notes is just too slow, but to have the option of just writing (especially for folks who use Kanji and Hangul) would have been grand! But I guess that wasn't in Steve Job's "vision". I wonder what Apple will do in the future once Jobs isn't with Apple any longer? I am not trying to show a lack of respect for Jobs, but it is pretty obvious what is going to happen in the near future.
Honeycomb is a very solid os from what I've seen so far. It has some webos guys on the design team and it shows. iOS is no slouch either. You may call it an app launcher but that is all I need a mobile os to be. I want the apps center stage, as I will not be looking at ui for more then a second until I find an app. Sure windows 7 wants me to just look at ui to see updates etc, but I prefer being in an app to see updates and reply to them. Don't care about flashy transitions, but again some do and honeycomb is ver good at that it seems and will appeal to a lot of users.
That said iOS is very good, intuitive, simple, powerful and unified. This appeals to a lot of users as well. iPad will not be losing sales volume but if the market grows android will of course gain marketshare of this growing pie.
IOS is the best mobile os because it's based on a solid foundation instead of a jvm, plus a controlled ecosystem is better for a mobile device, so there are not rogue data use as was the case with windows phone 7.
If the iPad and other new slate-style tablets had included stylus support through the use of buying a separate stylus (nice way to make a bit more profit for Apple and the others - and avoid charging people for something they may not need) and included true handwriting input similar to that included in Windows 7 then the iPad would have been a students most prized possession.
I would have snatched up an iPad if it had this one extra feature because it would have been truly usable in the classroom as a notepad. Typing on it to take notes is just too slow, but to have the option of just writing (especially for folks who use Kanji and Hangul) would have been grand! But I guess that wasn't in Steve Job's "vision". I wonder what Apple will do in the future once Jobs isn't with Apple any longer? I am not trying to show a lack of respect for Jobs, but it is pretty obvious what is going to happen in the near future.
That's not important point, because we can do that on iPhone or Android. Or do you think iPhone user must use iTunes to buy and download apps? Even you can download apps as big as 1.4G OTA, while Android is limited to 25M.
Think of it this way. You're browsing your favorite tech blog and it mentions a cool app you'd love to have.
iOS (option 1): Open iTunes; search for app; purchase/download; find iPhone and sync
Android: Link on blog goes directly to webstore Market; purchase; phone/tablet automatically downloads and installs app
The point is that with the webstore Market, Android users don't have to stray away too far away from their browsing at hand to install an app. The OTA method is like a hybrid of the iOS methods, using the best of both.
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The laughable point is not that, but the fact that paid Android apps only offered in 9 countries. So what's the point of adding credit card to Google Checkout?
I'm sorry but what are you talking about when you say "Honeycomb is likely to bring better productivity apps"? What nonsense - an app is an app, not the OS home screen, and apple wins the app game hands down. Android also has a huge issue with developers not being able to make much money because the sales channels are a mess, and because android is the favorite with the hacking community that doesn't want to pay for anything.
With Honeycomb they have built the frameworks and the UI for productivity apps. "If you build it, they will come." Just wait, you'll see. Hacker community is immaterial.
Look, I'm a fan of Apple/iPad/iOS, but the facts are, iPad is not ready for real productivity, it's a consumption device. Just try to print, or plug a USB device into it. Ooops.
Doesn't look appealing to me, but then, I think the iPad is dumb also. Who wants a laptop with no keyboard? Who wants a cellphone you can't fit in your pocket. Ok, all those iPad sales say I'm wrong. I guess people have more money than brains.
Or maybe they buy what suits their needs regardless of what some idiot thinks on a message board.
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Yup, Android is chased out to Asia & Africa where RIM & Nokia are waiting.
Asia where on Q3 2010 Android surpassed Symbian?
I don't think it's better than iOS, but it is different. It's nice to see that Google didn't just blatantly copy Apple outright like M$ does.
I don't think Apple should change their tablet interface much, but I wouldn't mind seeing something like the equivalent of dashboard for the iPad, vertical scrolling of apps instead of 'page-swiping' only, and customization of size and spacing for app icons.
Looks like more fragmentation for Android OS/devices.
Interesting article with some good info, but it does have an obvious DED spin.
Honeycomb is likely to bring better productivity apps to tablets than iOS. Apple needs to step up their game in this respect. The iPad needs to be more than just a consumption device, and clearly Honeycomb is taking Android tablets in the direction of useful tools. There is no reason Apple can't do the same with iPad, and do it better.
Flame if you want but I actually like the idea that Google have sat down, thought about how they would want a 10" tablet interface to work, and then customized Android from the ground up for that interface.
What Google have created is something distinctly different from what the iPad offers. I can't say I'm personally be interested is buying one, but I appreciate that Google are offering an alternative.
We can't Google-bash when they copy what Apple does and then Google-bash again when they don't.
What can you really tell from one screen shot and no hands on experience with it?????
Flame if you want but I actually like the idea that Google have sat down, thought about how they would want a 10" tablet interface to work, and then customized Android from the ground up for that interface.
What Google have created is something distinctly different from what the iPad offers. I can't say I'm personally be interested is buying one, but I appreciate that Google are offering an alternative.
We can't Google-bash when they copy what Apple does and then Google-bash again when they don't.
Exactly. I love how Honeycomb brings features I'd expect on a desktop/laptop level OS into the tablet world and retains all the features of its phone version. For example, the rich notifications that fade into a simple tray icon. Gets your attention quickly, but doesn't get into your face, requiring you deal with it then and now. And the multitasking previews of where you left the app off a la Windows Vista/7.
This is definitely not just a bigger Android phone (like the Galaxy Tab is).
Way to completely miss the boat on the "Android Market, on the web".
You don't ever need to connect to your computer to install apps, you buy the app on the web store and it automatically downloads to you phone/tablet.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/02/a...tore-hands-on/
Here's the entire Honeycomb presentation available online: http://www.youtube.com/android#p/u/0/RfJuigJebRg
Android fans are going to be all over this thing. It's an andronerd's wet dream.
I don't think it's better than iOS, but it is different. It's nice to see that Google didn't just blatantly copy Apple outright like M$ does.
I don't think Apple should change their tablet interface much, but I wouldn't mind seeing something like the equivalent of dashboard for the iPad, vertical scrolling of apps instead of 'page-swiping' only, and customization of size and spacing for app icons.
Looks like more fragmentation for Android OS/devices.
Interesting article with some good info, but it does have an obvious DED spin.
Honeycomb is likely to bring better productivity apps to tablets than iOS. Apple needs to step up their game in this respect. The iPad needs to be more than just a consumption device, and clearly Honeycomb is taking Android tablets in the direction of useful tools. There is no reason Apple can't do the same with iPad, and do it better.
I'm sorry but what are you talking about when you say "Honeycomb is likely to bring better productivity apps"? What nonsense - an app is an app, not the OS home screen, and apple wins the app game hands down. Android also has a huge issue with developers not being able to make much money because the sales channels are a mess, and because android is the favorite with the hacking community that doesn't want to pay for anything.
Yep I'm an iPad sheep. So are my family including a 7 year old who picked it up and was comfortable in its use after 5 mins, after 30 mins became fluent.
But I guess you fandroids don't get simplicity do you.
All fail with your reasoning that computers are complicated and for serious work and definitely not for the non-IT crowd.
How guess what ? I'm a computer programmer, but I still prefer the pure simplicity of my Apple products any day.
By the way your assertion that Android is the number 1 mobile OS is actually not true, I suggest you retract this and actually do some research, but I guess fandroids don't have to, right ?
Count iPod, iPad and iPhone which all are capable of using iOS4.2 (unlike android hardware that is fragmentation hell), iOS is way ahead of android OS. Your ignorance/lies are astonishing.
i agree.
android is like Windows 95. i reboot it quite a bit whereas i don't even remember how to do a hard reboot on the ipad...(i have had one user that actually needed a hard reboot on the ipad)
i like the idea of 'playing' with honeycomb and will probably get one but that doesn't mean it is any good. plus i still can't get netflix on android.
Honeycomb doesn't requieres dual cores.
I do believe it came straight from Google's mouths that Honeycomb is optimized to take advantage of however many processor cores you have. Whether it's a single core phone of the present or dual core tablets and phones coming out soon.
As far as one device vs. the other, I think it remains to be seen. Apple's devices have strong points, as do Android devices. Just keep dismissing Google Android like GM, Ford, and Chrysler did the likes of Honda and Toyota and watch what happens. Android is going to become the Windows of mobile devices.
android is like Windows 95. i reboot it quite a bit
I think people come to this forum to joke, it can't be serious
Um, Apple borrow anything from android, are you kidding me ?
We are talking about the spawn of the devil that was stolen by Google, remember this piece of history ? If you are going to post, try and make yourself look un-trollish as possible please.
As I stated repeatedly there will be thousands of android handsets and tables, the differentiation will be so blurred by the multitude of screen sizes, that soon no one will know whether its an android phone or tablet.
Then there will be the 20 - 30, if not more, versions of the android OS.
So Mr. Joe public will know which one to get will he ? Will he chance on "X", hoping that it can play Angry Birds ? Imagine him sitting there waiting months for an OS update, while tens of new android crap ware have hit the market with OS version n.n.
Tell me genius boy, how is the general product going to choose ?
I think android will increase in popularity with regards to tablets (there are after all geeks out there and cheap skates), but will soon be so over super saturated with their BOGO, that they will be a blur in the eyes of the consumer, who will be soon tire of having to many choices and start buying the iPad. So in effect androids early popularity will be it's undoing.
By the way, a couple of things, is having the greater market more profitable, Apple certainly doesn't think so ($57 billion cash reserves), hight stock value and share prices, but I guess that is irrelevant right ?
Also Samsung were caught out in their lies on galaxy tabs shipped vs actual sales, the same applies to android phones, and why wouldn't it. So I question the myth of android taking over the smart phone market. I hardly see them, but always see iPhones everywhere.
To add to this, people should see how ipod single handedly removed every competition in the long run. Is there any andriod player in that category that can repeat the success, I guess the answer is no. Iphone lost ground due to carrier lockup, Apple did learn from that and started pushing ipad to every possible retail channel. So, that when people go out there they can see an ipad and also a competition unlike the iphone. This itself is bigger challenge to overcome for google and company than having 3d home screen with loads of widgets. People love simple solutions & is the most difficult art to master also.
Doesn't look appealing to me, but then, I think the iPad is dumb also. Who wants a laptop with no keyboard? Who wants a cellphone you can't fit in your pocket. Ok, all those iPad sales say I'm wrong. I guess people have more money than brains.
If the iPad and other new slate-style tablets had included stylus support through the use of buying a separate stylus (nice way to make a bit more profit for Apple and the others - and avoid charging people for something they may not need) and included true handwriting input similar to that included in Windows 7 then the iPad would have been a students most prized possession.
I would have snatched up an iPad if it had this one extra feature because it would have been truly usable in the classroom as a notepad. Typing on it to take notes is just too slow, but to have the option of just writing (especially for folks who use Kanji and Hangul) would have been grand! But I guess that wasn't in Steve Job's "vision". I wonder what Apple will do in the future once Jobs isn't with Apple any longer? I am not trying to show a lack of respect for Jobs, but it is pretty obvious what is going to happen in the near future.
That said iOS is very good, intuitive, simple, powerful and unified. This appeals to a lot of users as well. iPad will not be losing sales volume but if the market grows android will of course gain marketshare of this growing pie.
IOS is the best mobile os because it's based on a solid foundation instead of a jvm, plus a controlled ecosystem is better for a mobile device, so there are not rogue data use as was the case with windows phone 7.
If the iPad and other new slate-style tablets had included stylus support through the use of buying a separate stylus (nice way to make a bit more profit for Apple and the others - and avoid charging people for something they may not need) and included true handwriting input similar to that included in Windows 7 then the iPad would have been a students most prized possession.
I would have snatched up an iPad if it had this one extra feature because it would have been truly usable in the classroom as a notepad. Typing on it to take notes is just too slow, but to have the option of just writing (especially for folks who use Kanji and Hangul) would have been grand! But I guess that wasn't in Steve Job's "vision". I wonder what Apple will do in the future once Jobs isn't with Apple any longer? I am not trying to show a lack of respect for Jobs, but it is pretty obvious what is going to happen in the near future.
Here is an iPad stylus if you want one. http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d.html/r...3?a=B000BUI76S
plus a controlled ecosystem is better for a mobile device, so there are not rogue data use as was the case with windows phone 7.
Ein? WP7 is controlled like iOS
That's not important point, because we can do that on iPhone or Android. Or do you think iPhone user must use iTunes to buy and download apps? Even you can download apps as big as 1.4G OTA, while Android is limited to 25M.
Think of it this way. You're browsing your favorite tech blog and it mentions a cool app you'd love to have.
iOS (option 1): Open iTunes; search for app; purchase/download; find iPhone and sync
iOS (option 2): Find iPhone; find app in App Store; purchase/download
Android: Link on blog goes directly to webstore Market; purchase; phone/tablet automatically downloads and installs app
The point is that with the webstore Market, Android users don't have to stray away too far away from their browsing at hand to install an app. The OTA method is like a hybrid of the iOS methods, using the best of both.
The laughable point is not that, but the fact that paid Android apps only offered in 9 countries. So what's the point of adding credit card to Google Checkout?
Actually, it's actually 34 major countries.
What can you really tell from one screen shot and no hands on experience with it?????
You do know there are numerous videos of Honeycomb in action right?
I'm sorry but what are you talking about when you say "Honeycomb is likely to bring better productivity apps"? What nonsense - an app is an app, not the OS home screen, and apple wins the app game hands down. Android also has a huge issue with developers not being able to make much money because the sales channels are a mess, and because android is the favorite with the hacking community that doesn't want to pay for anything.
With Honeycomb they have built the frameworks and the UI for productivity apps. "If you build it, they will come." Just wait, you'll see. Hacker community is immaterial.
Look, I'm a fan of Apple/iPad/iOS, but the facts are, iPad is not ready for real productivity, it's a consumption device. Just try to print, or plug a USB device into it. Ooops.
I think people come to this forum to joke, it can't be serious
This entire thread for this story is a joke... that much I know...
Doesn't look appealing to me, but then, I think the iPad is dumb also. Who wants a laptop with no keyboard? Who wants a cellphone you can't fit in your pocket. Ok, all those iPad sales say I'm wrong. I guess people have more money than brains.
Or maybe they buy what suits their needs regardless of what some idiot thinks on a message board.