Really, on a "PER APPLICATION" level? I haven't noticed it.
Full-screen isn't an interface style...
Really? What is it then?
Let's recap - Non-full screen - regular OS X title bar, background color, scroll bars etc. Full screen - charcoal theme, different scroll bar (or lack of) behaviour, different font sizing, spacing etc. etc. etc.
Really, on a "PER APPLICATION" level? I haven't noticed it.
Full-screen isn't an interface style (not in the same way Aqua is [i.e. a theme/skin]). and neither is Dashboard, Stacks or Chrome (whatever that actually is?).
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Really? What is it then?
Let's recap - Non-full screen - regular OS X title bar, background color, scroll bars etc. Full screen - charcoal theme, different scroll bar (or lack of) behaviour, different font sizing, spacing etc. etc. etc.
You seem anal-retentively convinced that using one and only interface style would be somehow better...
Apple uses different styles for different parts and behaviors of apps. For one, it helps makes the UI less monotonous.
UI consistency has nothing to do with styles --it is about BEHAVIOR.
The problem with KDE and GNOME, say, is not that one button is round while the other isn't, it's that widgets react differently.
That's also the problem with Swing apps or QT apps replicating the OS X style. While the look is the same the behavior is different --the reverse is not a problem.
Another example: web apps, widely considered easy to use, use WIDELY varying looks and colors for their buttons, links, etc, but as behavior is the same users do just fine.
Are you sure? I've used Windows quite extensively and to my knowledge, neither Vista nor 7 have a function that restores your programs to exactly where you left them after logging out or a reboot. Some programs do have session restore (usually web browsers) and others have auto saving, but unless I'm missing something, I don't think Windows has a function similar to Resume.
Now that Mac OS X Lion will be in one version (you can 'switch on' server mode) I wonder:
- Is server mode of Lion as complete as the current OS X Server?
- If server mode is turned on, are end user uses restricted (as is the case with current OS X Server, you cannot install iLife for instance)
- Current OS X Server can be run in virtualized environments. How is this with OS X Server Lion?
- And if OS X Lion in Server mode cannot be run in virtualized environments and there is no XServe hardware, what will Apple use for their own server environments? What are they using now anyway?
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Really, on a "PER APPLICATION" level? I haven't noticed it.
Full-screen isn't an interface style...
Really? What is it then?
Let's recap - Non-full screen - regular OS X title bar, background color, scroll bars etc. Full screen - charcoal theme, different scroll bar (or lack of) behaviour, different font sizing, spacing etc. etc. etc.
Autosave sounds like a nightmare. People don't expect their computer to automatically save what they're doing.
Reeeeaaaaally? Why is that? There are plenty of applications that already do it, and users are doing just fine.
And versions? Hard to believe that it's taken until 2011 to finally get around to pulling this feature out of 1980s VMS, isn't it?
You mean you can't believe it's taken until 2011 for disk space to be plenty and cheap enough to have that functionality on the desktop, right?
It's not like they couldn't replicate the VMS behavior in a computer in 2000. But with 7GB HD on their lineup, that wouldn't be so wise.
(Yes, the 2000 iMac had a 7 --seven-- GB hard disk).
Really, on a "PER APPLICATION" level? I haven't noticed it.
Full-screen isn't an interface style (not in the same way Aqua is [i.e. a theme/skin]). and neither is Dashboard, Stacks or Chrome (whatever that actually is?).
Really? What is it then?
Let's recap - Non-full screen - regular OS X title bar, background color, scroll bars etc. Full screen - charcoal theme, different scroll bar (or lack of) behaviour, different font sizing, spacing etc. etc. etc.
You seem anal-retentively convinced that using one and only interface style would be somehow better...
Apple uses different styles for different parts and behaviors of apps. For one, it helps makes the UI less monotonous.
UI consistency has nothing to do with styles --it is about BEHAVIOR.
The problem with KDE and GNOME, say, is not that one button is round while the other isn't, it's that widgets react differently.
That's also the problem with Swing apps or QT apps replicating the OS X style. While the look is the same the behavior is different --the reverse is not a problem.
Another example: web apps, widely considered easy to use, use WIDELY varying looks and colors for their buttons, links, etc, but as behavior is the same users do just fine.
Wow that Resume feature is amazing. I believe Microsoft had that way back when Vista came out.
Only it didn't.
Now, what you were saying again?
I agree. I have one program that still needs Rosetta - Quicken.
Quicken doesn't need Rosetta for a lot of time now.
Or you mean you have an old version you haven't updated?
Only it didn't.
Now, what you were saying again?
Win 7 definately does.
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UI consistency has nothing to do with styles --it is about BEHAVIOR.
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Um, and how exactly does making the screen suddenly charcoal change it's BEHAVIOR?
Win 7 definately does.
Are you sure? I've used Windows quite extensively and to my knowledge, neither Vista nor 7 have a function that restores your programs to exactly where you left them after logging out or a reboot. Some programs do have session restore (usually web browsers) and others have auto saving, but unless I'm missing something, I don't think Windows has a function similar to Resume.
- Is server mode of Lion as complete as the current OS X Server?
- If server mode is turned on, are end user uses restricted (as is the case with current OS X Server, you cannot install iLife for instance)
- Current OS X Server can be run in virtualized environments. How is this with OS X Server Lion?
- And if OS X Lion in Server mode cannot be run in virtualized environments and there is no XServe hardware, what will Apple use for their own server environments? What are they using now anyway?