Apparently multitasking is only "real" if programs are indiscriminately allowed to drain your battery while they do things in the background that may or may not be productive.
Come on, the iPad allows you to run chat programs in the background, play music in the background, monitor GPS in the background, with full efficiency as you do whatever you're doing in the foreground. What exactly is it that you want to "multitask"? You wanna run SETI@home or something? Download BT files? Render 3D?
Apparently multitasking is only "real" if programs are indiscriminately allowed to drain your battery while they do things in the background that may or may not be productive.
Come on, the iPad allows you to run chat programs in the background, play music in the background, monitor GPS in the background, with full efficiency as you do whatever you're doing in the foreground. What exactly is it that you want to "multitask"? You wanna run SETI@home or something? Download BT files? Render 3D?
Talk about gimmicks and waste of resources.
There are youtube videos showing that when you swipe up on the Playbook, the video player can either continue to play or pause. There are also youtube videos showing that the "need for speed" game can either continue to play or pause.
The end-user can indiscriminately do whatever they want.
There are youtube videos showing that when you swipe up on the Playbook, the video player can either continue to play or pause. There are also youtube videos showing that the "need for speed" game can either continue to play or pause.
The end-user can indiscriminately do whatever they want.
Along with the restoration of the hardware screen-orientation lock, the new iOS 4.3 beta for iPad adds new multitouch gestures to quickly switch between apps. Using four or five fingers, you can now swipe up to show the multitasking bar, and swipe left or right to switch between apps.
But it is a third gesture which is fueling speculation. If you pinch with your whole hand, you return to the home screen, no home-button press required.
Along with the restoration of the hardware screen-orientation lock, the new iOS 4.3 beta for iPad adds new multitouch gestures to quickly switch between apps. Using four or five fingers, you can now swipe up to show the multitasking bar, and swipe left or right to switch between apps.
But it is a third gesture which is fueling speculation. If you pinch with your whole hand, you return to the home screen, no home-button press required.
I wasn't talking about the gestures --- I was talking about the end-user's ability to control whether an app to continue running full-speed in the background.
Not sure why you are even bringing this up. You know Apple doesn't want task managers on its consumer devices.
I cannot think of one person who dreams of controlling the CPU and memory allocation on their electronic device.
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Originally Posted by samab
I wasn't talking about the gestures --- I was talking about the end-user's ability to control whether an app to continue running full-speed in the background.
Hold your horses, mate. I'm yet to see an iPad among my friends, and major reasons for that are necessity of iTunes and lack of Flash.
No I'm not going to hold my horses. You have your circle of friends and I have mine, none of whom use Flash as it's disabled on their various computers Your group of friends is self-selecting, just like most people's friendships; you choose to (consciously or not) associate with those who don't have iPads for at least the reasons you state.
Among my limited circle are a good dozen iPad users who claim it's an amazing, even liberating, device. No one has complained about the itunes store and certainly the lack of Flash hasn't bothered them in the least. My acquaintances range from college-age students at the local university school of music, through professionals in their 30s, 40s and 50s, up to my demographic of retirees. For the iPad users of that group, Flash is a non-starter. When it comes up in discussion te usual reaction is either "what is Flash?" to "oh, thank god it's gone."
So okay, as to my statement that nobody wants it, I should have qualified it: Nobody outside of a few diehard Flash developers and those who can't live without it really cares whether or not it's on their iDevice.
The reality is that Apple has not supported Flash since the introduction of the original iPhone some four years ago. Since then Adobe has done what exactly to create a Flash that Apple would accept (and that other tablet makers would love to have so it doesn't eat up their battery life)? Absolutely nothing. Nada. Adobe's intransigence in correcting the problems Apple has identified speaks volumes about the subject.
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I agree that one can live without Flash if one chooses to, but saying that nobody wants it because millions of iPad are sold is a bit of overstatement. Those millions are really nothing compared to potential market.
I see. So people voting with their pocketbook are really nothing. I'll bet RIM and HP would love to have half that figure in sales. Talk to me in a year.
No kidding. This fetish for cases and keeping devices in pristine condition always amazes me.
Hell if you never take it out of the box it will last longer and be worth more to resell later too! It's not a freaking Star Wars doll from the '70s or a comic book, it's a mobile device that is designed to be used and abused!
The iPad1 was a "must buy". The iPad2 is a "must buy" but only if you don't already own an iPad1.
I'm a massive Apple fan but none of the new features are making me feel the need to upgrade.
I didn't find the gen1 heavy, thick or slow.
The cameras are functional for what they are designed to do but I have a 10 year old phone with a better camera.
The new games will work with the Gen1 iPad so does it need up to 9x faster graphics?
I was a bit disappointed by this update to be honest but I'm happy to continue using my Gen1 and the iOS 4.3 will help me last another year. I wasn't expecting retina displays etc. Just an SD card reader and a 5mp camera would have done it for me, I'd have been at the front of the line like I was with Gen1. Here's hoping for a more interesting and usable update for Gen3.
Mind you, even if they hadn't bothered this year, all the other companies would still be playing catchup to the original iPad.
Like my 4GB iPhone 2G and the unibody MacBook "Collector's Edition"...
Yeah, about like that....
My friend actually has the second model of the original Mac in her garage - dunno how the rigors of winter/summer temps have effected it - but it was working. Has the inside embossed sigs of the dev team and all. Wonder what it's worth?
More than my Commodore 64 or even my Apple issued Lisa and Apple III brochures or my VHS from the AIM Alliance (Apple, IBM, Moto - the "pink" project) I'm sure.....
Not sure why you are even bringing this up. You know Apple doesn't want task managers on its consumer devices.
I cannot think of one person who dreams of controlling the CPU and memory allocation on their electronic device.
End users can decide how each individual app can function in the background on the playbook. Suddenly, that concept is unreasonable? It is not "indiscriminately" as others have referred in this thread.
Its unreasonable to expect Apple to put this responsibility on the user when they've explicitly said they do not want to.
I'm sure requiring the end user to decide how each app can function in the background is going to be a total smash hit for the Playbook........
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Originally Posted by samab
End users can decide how each individual app can function in the background on the playbook. Suddenly, that concept is unreasonable? It is not "indiscriminately" as others have referred in this thread.
Its unreasonable to expect Apple to put this responsibility on the user when they've explicitly said they do not want to.
I'm sure requiring the end user to decide how each app can function in the background is going to be a total smash hit for the Playbook........
I didn't say that what Apple is doing is unreasonable. I said that it is not as "indiscriminately" for the Playbook as others had suggested. And it would be clear to developers (like game developers) that it would be stupid for the games to continue to play when you swipe up on the Playbook because your character would die. The end-user never has to make that decision because the game developer would have shipped the game with the pause of swipe up function as default.
There are youtube videos showing that when you swipe up on the Playbook, the video player can either continue to play or pause. There are also youtube videos showing that the "need for speed" game can either continue to play or pause.
The end-user can indiscriminately do whatever they want.
Exactly my point. Who on Earth needs to waste their battery running NFS in the background!?
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Come on, the iPad allows you to run chat programs in the background, play music in the background, monitor GPS in the background, with full efficiency as you do whatever you're doing in the foreground. What exactly is it that you want to "multitask"? You wanna run SETI@home or something? Download BT files? Render 3D?
Talk about gimmicks and waste of resources.
Apparently multitasking is only "real" if programs are indiscriminately allowed to drain your battery while they do things in the background that may or may not be productive.
Come on, the iPad allows you to run chat programs in the background, play music in the background, monitor GPS in the background, with full efficiency as you do whatever you're doing in the foreground. What exactly is it that you want to "multitask"? You wanna run SETI@home or something? Download BT files? Render 3D?
Talk about gimmicks and waste of resources.
There are youtube videos showing that when you swipe up on the Playbook, the video player can either continue to play or pause. There are also youtube videos showing that the "need for speed" game can either continue to play or pause.
The end-user can indiscriminately do whatever they want.
I wonder if there will be a white iPhone 4 soon? Or will Apple wait until the iPhone 5 to introduce a white version?
Can anyone think of any reasons for Apple to wait? Or to launch a white iPhone 4 soon?
There are youtube videos showing that when you swipe up on the Playbook, the video player can either continue to play or pause. There are also youtube videos showing that the "need for speed" game can either continue to play or pause.
The end-user can indiscriminately do whatever they want.
And?
http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2011/...s-ipad-rumors/
Along with the restoration of the hardware screen-orientation lock, the new iOS 4.3 beta for iPad adds new multitouch gestures to quickly switch between apps. Using four or five fingers, you can now swipe up to show the multitasking bar, and swipe left or right to switch between apps.
But it is a third gesture which is fueling speculation. If you pinch with your whole hand, you return to the home screen, no home-button press required.
And?
http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2011/...s-ipad-rumors/
Along with the restoration of the hardware screen-orientation lock, the new iOS 4.3 beta for iPad adds new multitouch gestures to quickly switch between apps. Using four or five fingers, you can now swipe up to show the multitasking bar, and swipe left or right to switch between apps.
But it is a third gesture which is fueling speculation. If you pinch with your whole hand, you return to the home screen, no home-button press required.
I wasn't talking about the gestures --- I was talking about the end-user's ability to control whether an app to continue running full-speed in the background.
I cannot think of one person who dreams of controlling the CPU and memory allocation on their electronic device.
I wasn't talking about the gestures --- I was talking about the end-user's ability to control whether an app to continue running full-speed in the background.
Can anyone think of any reasons for Apple to wait? Or to launch a white iPhone 4 soon?
iPhone 5 comes out in June. It's POINTLESS now.
iPhone 5 comes out in June. It's [a white iPhone is] POINTLESS now.
Which would make the short run of 'em collector's items about 20 years from now!
Hold your horses, mate. I'm yet to see an iPad among my friends, and major reasons for that are necessity of iTunes and lack of Flash.
No I'm not going to hold my horses. You have your circle of friends and I have mine, none of whom use Flash as it's disabled on their various computers Your group of friends is self-selecting, just like most people's friendships; you choose to (consciously or not) associate with those who don't have iPads for at least the reasons you state.
Among my limited circle are a good dozen iPad users who claim it's an amazing, even liberating, device. No one has complained about the itunes store and certainly the lack of Flash hasn't bothered them in the least. My acquaintances range from college-age students at the local university school of music, through professionals in their 30s, 40s and 50s, up to my demographic of retirees. For the iPad users of that group, Flash is a non-starter. When it comes up in discussion te usual reaction is either "what is Flash?" to "oh, thank god it's gone."
So okay, as to my statement that nobody wants it, I should have qualified it: Nobody outside of a few diehard Flash developers and those who can't live without it really cares whether or not it's on their iDevice.
The reality is that Apple has not supported Flash since the introduction of the original iPhone some four years ago. Since then Adobe has done what exactly to create a Flash that Apple would accept (and that other tablet makers would love to have so it doesn't eat up their battery life)? Absolutely nothing. Nada. Adobe's intransigence in correcting the problems Apple has identified speaks volumes about the subject.
I agree that one can live without Flash if one chooses to, but saying that nobody wants it because millions of iPad are sold is a bit of overstatement. Those millions are really nothing compared to potential market.
Which would make the short run of 'em collector's items about 20 years from now!
Like my 4GB iPhone 2G and the unibody MacBook "Collector's Edition"...
No kidding. This fetish for cases and keeping devices in pristine condition always amazes me.
Hell if you never take it out of the box it will last longer and be worth more to resell later too! It's not a freaking Star Wars doll from the '70s or a comic book, it's a mobile device that is designed to be used and abused!
Talk about being possessed by your possessions...
Best comeback yet, Doc! thanks!
I'm a massive Apple fan but none of the new features are making me feel the need to upgrade.
I didn't find the gen1 heavy, thick or slow.
The cameras are functional for what they are designed to do but I have a 10 year old phone with a better camera.
The new games will work with the Gen1 iPad so does it need up to 9x faster graphics?
I was a bit disappointed by this update to be honest but I'm happy to continue using my Gen1 and the iOS 4.3 will help me last another year. I wasn't expecting retina displays etc. Just an SD card reader and a 5mp camera would have done it for me, I'd have been at the front of the line like I was with Gen1. Here's hoping for a more interesting and usable update for Gen3.
Mind you, even if they hadn't bothered this year, all the other companies would still be playing catchup to the original iPad.
Like my 4GB iPhone 2G and the unibody MacBook "Collector's Edition"...
Yeah, about like that....
My friend actually has the second model of the original Mac in her garage - dunno how the rigors of winter/summer temps have effected it - but it was working. Has the inside embossed sigs of the dev team and all. Wonder what it's worth?
More than my Commodore 64 or even my Apple issued Lisa and Apple III brochures or my VHS from the AIM Alliance (Apple, IBM, Moto - the "pink" project) I'm sure.....
Not sure why you are even bringing this up. You know Apple doesn't want task managers on its consumer devices.
I cannot think of one person who dreams of controlling the CPU and memory allocation on their electronic device.
End users can decide how each individual app can function in the background on the playbook. Suddenly, that concept is unreasonable? It is not "indiscriminately" as others have referred in this thread.
I'm sure requiring the end user to decide how each app can function in the background is going to be a total smash hit for the Playbook........
End users can decide how each individual app can function in the background on the playbook. Suddenly, that concept is unreasonable? It is not "indiscriminately" as others have referred in this thread.
Its unreasonable to expect Apple to put this responsibility on the user when they've explicitly said they do not want to.
I'm sure requiring the end user to decide how each app can function in the background is going to be a total smash hit for the Playbook........
I didn't say that what Apple is doing is unreasonable. I said that it is not as "indiscriminately" for the Playbook as others had suggested. And it would be clear to developers (like game developers) that it would be stupid for the games to continue to play when you swipe up on the Playbook because your character would die. The end-user never has to make that decision because the game developer would have shipped the game with the pause of swipe up function as default.
i watched the keynote by SJ and those apps garage band and iMovie
are HUGE creative breakout apps
i can see me getting one for my 9 yr old just for the piano composing ability
instead of empty video games they can truly create
parents, schools, are going to go nuts for this
it's a new standard
and the ecosystem makes one think "why buy anything else" to do so would be so backward
what do the others really give you and AT 499
now how to get her music into this thing
they should have a music store or maybe purchase from book store
alfred piano theory needs to be in this format for download
WOW
i can see me getting one for my 9 yr old just for the piano composing ability
instead of empty video games they can truly create
parents, schools, are going to go nuts for this
You might be interested in this.
http://speirs.org/blog/2011/3/2/some...on-ipad-2.html
So buy something with "real" multitasking.
Like a MacBook Air!
There are youtube videos showing that when you swipe up on the Playbook, the video player can either continue to play or pause. There are also youtube videos showing that the "need for speed" game can either continue to play or pause.
The end-user can indiscriminately do whatever they want.
Exactly my point. Who on Earth needs to waste their battery running NFS in the background!?