Perhaps , but he can be also an Heroinoman. I vote for the first, not because we are confident in Eugene, but because one piercing in the elbow per 3 months is not enough for an heroinoman </strong><hr></blockquote>
Maybe a little bit from column A, a little bit from column B. If I was a heroin addict, my elbows would be the last place I would shoot it up!
Maybe a little bit from column A, a little bit from column B. If I was a heroin addict, my elbows would be the last place I would shoot it up!</strong><hr></blockquote>
<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" /> Well, i will not ask you where you should shoot it up.
<strong>Maybe a little bit from column A, a little bit from column B. If I was a heroin addict, my elbows would be the last place I would shoot it up!</strong><hr></blockquote>
Top supermodels recommend shooting between your toes. Keep that body beautiful!
Anyway, you've officially made my list of heroes (as opposed to heroin(e)s, I guess) for your contribution to column A.
[quote]Originally posted by FellowshipChurch iBook:
<strong>Not exactly on topic but I think it could tie in with your new look. What about libertarian activism? I saw how much that topic means to you on your webpage. Do you feel like you have "restricted" freedoms? I see this so often from many young teenagers. There is this idea that the world is against us kind of thing. We must try to take the world by storm and rebel! kind of attitude.
Is it me or is this just a teenager thing?
Please don't take this personal as this is something I see from some of the teen segment of the population.
I just don't get it. That's all.
I think too many youths have this chip on their shoulder that the "establishment" is against them and this "establishment" is evil and must be rebeled against.
I just have a hard time understanding the mindset that buys into this kind of world view.
Again I took the thread off the main topic for a bit but I did so only to see if it fits in with your libertarian activism outlook.
first off, fellowship, i respect the amount of time and effort you seem to put into each post you write. it really seems like you took some time to learn about this guy through his webpage, etc, and it is quite commendable that you do not just start going nuts in your posts.
that being said, i think the way you said "you young teenagers" had a pretty condescening tone to it, and no young teenagers or teenagers at all like to be grouped together like that. you seemed to say this isn't what you meant, but it is how it came off.
my real point to this post is that I hope teenagers have an anti-establishment point of view. i get so tired of hearing of all of the crookedness and scandoulous, self-preserving activity that occurs within "the establishment" (government sometimes, corporations A LOT). I mean there is so much stuff the public just never hears about. Do you know you probably have 90-150 industrial chemicals in your blood right now? Moreover, these chemicals are untested for safety by those who manufacture them! Yet you have no choice but to accept them as a part of daily life. Cancer is up across the board from previous years to the tune of 30%-45%. Learning disabilities in children are up 23%. The statistics go on about how we are generally more diseased than we once were. Are chemicals entirely to blame for this? Maybe, maybe not; my point is that corporations (sometimes with the help of their captured government) never have your interest at heart, and I looking negatively on those against this is ridiculous! i was using the chemical thing just as an example of the sort of stuff that goes on.
So, in conclusion, I hope teenagers today are anti-establishment. I guess the hippies were too, and look at the world today.
by the way, soulcrusher, i am not saying that you are anti-establishment. i don't know you at all and didn't even look at your web page, though i think i will now.
In a professional point of vue, some piercings brings troubles, and people ask me to solve them.
I have cure two girls who have a piercing in the ear in the cartilaginous aera, and not in the lower part, like it is practiced since centuries. They have bad hypertrophic scar. I removed it surgically and i expect the result will be fine, but now they have a scar forever.
A piercing in the lower part of the lip will cause a scar when he will be removed and perhaps a saliva fistula, small but real : some surgical procedure will be needed, with pain (a little with a good surgeon) and scar, from nice (if both the surgeon and the way the patient cicatrise is good) from bad (if the patient had bad scar healing).
Some piercing hare less dangerous : for example the eyebrow, it's easy to remove and the scar will be very little and hidden in the pilosisty. Same apply for piercing of the ombilic.
In resume : i am not against piercing, even if it is not really my taste but it should be made in the right place in good conditions. I am amazed how strict the legislation is with us surgeons and private hospital, and how cool or non existant they are with this kind of practice.
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Perhaps , but he can be also an Heroinoman. I vote for the first, not because we are confident in Eugene, but because one piercing in the elbow per 3 months is not enough for an heroinoman
Maybe a little bit from column A, a little bit from column B. If I was a heroin addict, my elbows would be the last place I would shoot it up!
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Maybe a little bit from column A, a little bit from column B. If I was a heroin addict, my elbows would be the last place I would shoot it up!</strong><hr></blockquote>
<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" /> Well, i will not ask you where you should shoot it up.
<strong>Maybe a little bit from column A, a little bit from column B. If I was a heroin addict, my elbows would be the last place I would shoot it up!</strong><hr></blockquote>
Top supermodels recommend shooting between your toes. Keep that body beautiful!
Anyway, you've officially made my list of heroes (as opposed to heroin(e)s, I guess) for your contribution to column A.
<strong>Not exactly on topic but I think it could tie in with your new look. What about libertarian activism? I saw how much that topic means to you on your webpage. Do you feel like you have "restricted" freedoms? I see this so often from many young teenagers. There is this idea that the world is against us kind of thing. We must try to take the world by storm and rebel! kind of attitude.
Is it me or is this just a teenager thing?
Please don't take this personal as this is something I see from some of the teen segment of the population.
I just don't get it. That's all.
I think too many youths have this chip on their shoulder that the "establishment" is against them and this "establishment" is evil and must be rebeled against.
I just have a hard time understanding the mindset that buys into this kind of world view.
Again I took the thread off the main topic for a bit but I did so only to see if it fits in with your libertarian activism outlook.
Fellowship
[ 12-03-2002: Message edited by: FellowshipChurch iBook ]</strong><hr></blockquote>
i'm too lazy to cut and paste, sorry.
first off, fellowship, i respect the amount of time and effort you seem to put into each post you write. it really seems like you took some time to learn about this guy through his webpage, etc, and it is quite commendable that you do not just start going nuts in your posts.
that being said, i think the way you said "you young teenagers" had a pretty condescening tone to it, and no young teenagers or teenagers at all like to be grouped together like that. you seemed to say this isn't what you meant, but it is how it came off.
my real point to this post is that I hope teenagers have an anti-establishment point of view. i get so tired of hearing of all of the crookedness and scandoulous, self-preserving activity that occurs within "the establishment" (government sometimes, corporations A LOT). I mean there is so much stuff the public just never hears about. Do you know you probably have 90-150 industrial chemicals in your blood right now? Moreover, these chemicals are untested for safety by those who manufacture them! Yet you have no choice but to accept them as a part of daily life. Cancer is up across the board from previous years to the tune of 30%-45%. Learning disabilities in children are up 23%. The statistics go on about how we are generally more diseased than we once were. Are chemicals entirely to blame for this? Maybe, maybe not; my point is that corporations (sometimes with the help of their captured government) never have your interest at heart, and I looking negatively on those against this is ridiculous! i was using the chemical thing just as an example of the sort of stuff that goes on.
So, in conclusion, I hope teenagers today are anti-establishment. I guess the hippies were too, and look at the world today.
by the way, soulcrusher, i am not saying that you are anti-establishment. i don't know you at all and didn't even look at your web page, though i think i will now.
[ 12-04-2002: Message edited by: progmac ]</p>
I have cure two girls who have a piercing in the ear in the cartilaginous aera, and not in the lower part, like it is practiced since centuries. They have bad hypertrophic scar. I removed it surgically and i expect the result will be fine, but now they have a scar forever.
A piercing in the lower part of the lip will cause a scar when he will be removed and perhaps a saliva fistula, small but real : some surgical procedure will be needed, with pain (a little with a good surgeon) and scar, from nice (if both the surgeon and the way the patient cicatrise is good) from bad (if the patient had bad scar healing).
Some piercing hare less dangerous : for example the eyebrow, it's easy to remove and the scar will be very little and hidden in the pilosisty. Same apply for piercing of the ombilic.
In resume : i am not against piercing, even if it is not really my taste but it should be made in the right place in good conditions. I am amazed how strict the legislation is with us surgeons and private hospital, and how cool or non existant they are with this kind of practice.