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  • Reply 201 of 305
    jimmacjimmac Posts: 11,898member
    [quote]Originally posted by BR:

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    He sure like to criticize other countries but can't handle those pesky foreigners criticizing his.



    Also, if you have the title of the New York Times article, you can search google news for it and read it without having to deal with logging in.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Thanks for the tip!



    Scott, Matsu, And ZMench already showed me what they're all about in Samantha's thread.
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  • Reply 202 of 305
    brbr Posts: 8,395member
    [quote]Originally posted by FellowshipChurch iBook:

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    I am for freedom but not freedom to murder. It is very simple BR. If some nut down the street thinks it is his right to dissent and murder all the cats in the neighborhood that dissent is revoked also. This is not about fascism at all it is about a respect for ethics and humanity. It is about self-control and the value of life.



    Fellowship</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Is the morning after pill murder? Answer me that so I can truly gauge exactly where you are so I can formulate a proper response.
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  • Reply 203 of 305
    murbotmurbot Posts: 5,262member
    If I toss a condom with millions of live sperm into the toilet, is that murder?



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  • Reply 204 of 305
    [quote]Originally posted by tonton:

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    The problem is that you can't eradicate something through prohibition. History has proved this time and time again.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    BUNK that is false.



    Remember slavery in America? We prohibit it today after much debate, fighting and blood.



    Slavery in America has been eradicated due to the bold leadership of those who were determined to get to their goal of serving humanity at large.



    Fellowship
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  • Reply 204 of 305
    brbr Posts: 8,395member
    [quote]Originally posted by murbot:

    <strong>If I toss a condom with millions of live sperm into the toilet, is that murder?



    </strong><hr></blockquote>



    <a href="http://www.mwscomp.com/movies/mol/every-sp.mp3"; target="_blank">Every sperm is sacred.</a>



    <a href="http://hem.passagen.se/minata/dav/dav_25_aug.html"; target="_blank">Lyrics here.</a>



    [ 01-30-2003: Message edited by: BR ]</p>
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  • Reply 206 of 305
    murbotmurbot Posts: 5,262member
    I can't imagine how many billion kids I killed when I was a teenager in the bathroom.
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  • Reply 207 of 305
    pscatespscates Posts: 5,847member
    [quote]<strong>If I toss a condom with millions of live sperm into the toilet, is that murder?<hr></blockquote></strong>



    Only if they're French.







    [ 01-30-2003: Message edited by: pscates ]</p>
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  • Reply 208 of 305
    fellowshipfellowship Posts: 5,038member
    [quote]Originally posted by BR:

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    Is the morning after pill murder? Answer me that so I can truly gauge exactly where you are so I can formulate a proper response.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    I will not quantify via terms of conception be it a short period of time or a longer peroid of time the validity of my claim that abortion is wrong and it is murder.



    Sorry.



    Fellowship
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  • Reply 208 of 305
    Fellowship why don't you sign on iChat anymore?
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  • Reply 210 of 305
    brbr Posts: 8,395member
    [quote]Originally posted by FellowshipChurch iBook:

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    I will not quantify via terms of conception be it a short period of time or a longer peroid of time the validity of my claim that abortion is wrong and it is murder.



    Sorry.



    Fellowship</strong><hr></blockquote>

    The morning after pill works in the following three ways:
    • Stopping or delaying the ovaries from releasing an egg

    • Preventing sperm from fertilising any egg that has been released

    • Stopping a fertilised egg from attaching itself to the womb lining.

    In the third case, sperm has already met egg and zygote has already been formed. Your idea of life has already begun.



    So, answer me. Is the morning after pill an instrument of murder?
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  • Reply 211 of 305
    fellowshipfellowship Posts: 5,038member
    [quote]Originally posted by ShawnPatrickJoyce:

    <strong>Fellowship why don't you sign on iChat anymore?</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Hey man sorry, I have not used my iBook in weeks. I am using my PC lately.



    I will log on soon!



    Fellows
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  • Reply 212 of 305
    Dude sign on AIM. I bought a digital camera.
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  • Reply 213 of 305
    fellowshipfellowship Posts: 5,038member
    [quote]Originally posted by BR:

    <strong>

    The morning after pill works in the following three ways:
    • Stopping or delaying the ovaries from releasing an egg

    • Preventing sperm from fertilising any egg that has been released

    • Stopping a fertilised egg from attaching itself to the womb lining.

    In the third case, sperm has already met egg and zygote has already been formed. Your idea of life has already begun.



    So, answer me. Is the morning after pill an instrument of murder?</strong><hr></blockquote>



    BR there is a reason why I can not answer that conclusivly. As you know not all conceptions make it to full term naturally aside from the whole topic of abortion. That is something that is out of the hands of the mother. Still born children etc. To aide and or promote the termination of a living zygote to me is a form of murder of a new life. Would that zygote have made it to full maturity and be a healthy born child? I can not know that or tell you. What I can tell you is that as I said above to aide and or promote the termination of a new life is to me murder.



    Fellowship
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  • Reply 214 of 305
    thegeldingthegelding Posts: 3,230member
    [quote] my claim that abortion is wrong and it is murder. <hr></blockquote>



    for rape an incest too?? g
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  • Reply 215 of 305
    brbr Posts: 8,395member
    [quote]Originally posted by FellowshipChurch iBook:

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    BR there is a reason why I can not answer that conclusivly. As you know not all conceptions make it to full term naturally aside from the whole topic of abortion. That is something that is out of the hands of the mother. Still born children etc. To aide and or promote the termination of a living zygote to me is a form of murder of a new life. Would that zygote have made it to full maturity and be a healthy born child? I can not know that or tell you. What I can tell you is that as I said above to aide and or promote the termination of a new life is to me murder.



    Fellowship</strong><hr></blockquote>



    So, in the interest of consistency, will you campaign to ban the morning after pill as well as abortion?



    Also, do you believe that women who smoke or drink while pregnant should be put in jail?



    [ 01-30-2003: Message edited by: BR ]</p>
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  • Reply 215 of 305
    thegeldingthegelding Posts: 3,230member
    menstruation is murder





    my new bumper sticker





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  • Reply 217 of 305
    murbotmurbot Posts: 5,262member
    Do you believe in fate, Fellowship?



    Because damn, that opens up a whole other can of worms. If it was "meant to be" that my daughter be impregnated by her boyfriend... and I lock her in the basement to keep her away from the bastard.. is that "murdering" the baby?



    I don't know. I'm asking.



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  • Reply 218 of 305
    thegeldingthegelding Posts: 3,230member
    hey mur, what if you cut of your daughter's boyfriends balls...is that murder?



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  • Reply 218 of 305
    fellowshipfellowship Posts: 5,038member
    [quote]Originally posted by BR:

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    So, in the interest of consistency, will you campaign to ban the morning after pill as well as abortion?



    Also, do you believe that women who smoke or drink while pregnant should be put in jail?



    [ 01-30-2003: Message edited by: BR ]</strong><hr></blockquote>



    BR, While I view it as murder I am not an activist in the area as to "enforce" my views. I do vote for people I respect and agree with and what they do when in power is up to them. Will I march, demonstrate or organize on the issue? No. I will however in love try to share with others why I believe it is a tragic shame.



    Fellowship
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  • Reply 220 of 305
    murbotmurbot Posts: 5,262member
    [quote]Originally posted by thegelding:

    <strong>hey mur, what if you cut of your daughter's boyfriends balls...is that murder?



    g</strong><hr></blockquote>





    I think he'd say so.



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