Perhaps they are but I don't think so. All I know is FB is one of the few sites that shows parity on access between iOS and Android and even then, there are more iPhones accessing FB accounts than Android. iOS will rocket ahead once FB makes the iPad app public.
I would expect much higher Android web usage statistics than what is out there (Android accounts for about 65%-75% less traffic compared to iOS on most major analytic sites) than what is being reported. Is it a result of use patterns? Demographics? Poor analysts figures? User Agent spoofing?
Here in Spain you will see more HTC (mostly Desire family) and Samsung Android smartphones than iPhones
Were iTunes Store and the App Store (TM) ever meant to be profitable?
Yes and Yes. Crazy question of the day.
If Samsung, HTC, ZTE, Moto, Sony, LG... cannot make a sustained profit with a platform, they will drop the platform like a ton of bricks or the manufacture will drop like a ton of bricks.
Watch the original Google videos about Android providing a platform for carriers and handset makers to build value and profit on.
If Samsung, HTC, ZTE, Moto, Sony, LG... cannot make a sustained profit with a platform, they will drop the platform like a ton of bricks or the manufacture will drop like a ton of bricks.
Watch the original Google videos about Android providing a platform for carriers and handset makers to build value and profit on.
Of course, but that doesn't mean that Android was meant to be profitable, which was the argument.
Perhaps they are but I don't think so. All I know is FB is one of the few sites that shows parity on access between iOS and Android and even then, there are more iPhones accessing FB accounts than Android. iOS will rocket ahead once FB makes the iPad app public.
I would expect much higher Android web usage statistics than what is out there (Android accounts for about 65%-75% less traffic compared to iOS on most major analytic sites) than what is being reported. Is it a result of use patterns? Demographics? Poor analysts figures? User Agent spoofing?
Have you seen the average Android user? People that think anyone others are stupid if they don't know how to root their phone and flash their baseband probably aren't the most social creatures and therefore don't have many friends on Facebook.
Have you seen the average Android user? People that think anyone others are stupid if they don't know how to root their phone and flash their baseband probably aren't the most social creatures and therefore don't have many friends on Facebook.
Is this the average iPhone user vision of average Android users?
What "ouch" is that, troll? By what measure of business does Android's lead mean anything to Apple? Sales? Nope. Revenue? Nope. Profit? Nope. Better apps? Nope. Apps not available on iOS? Nope. Mindshare? Nope. Marketing advantage? Nope.
So I'll ask you again, troll, other than numbers of users, how this an "ouch" for Apple? You see, your fixation on numbers is the only thing you've got isn't it? That's all you can claim and it means virtually nothing. Same as saying Microsoft still has 80% of the desktop operating system market. Nobody cares anymore because Apple sells more than Microsoft, has more revenue than Microsoft, has more profits than Microsoft, and is worth more than Microsoft. Same goes for Google.
You trolls are a funny bunch of losers aren't you.
Of course, but that doesn't mean that Android was meant to be profitable, which was the argument.
(Please wake up)
So which is it? Android is eating Apple's lunch or Android was never meant to be profitable? How do you explain that Motorola has lost money the last two quarters? Are you really going to argue that Moto made a conscience choice to loss money for the benefit of the consumer?
Apple is only 33% behind from monopolizing all the profits in the world's handset industry. Now that's a ouch! You'd think if Android-based vendors on the whole were able to uncut Apple and still turn a good profit they would done that by now. I guess there is something to be said about planning well.
it can't be compared, apple is an independent (single manufacturer company) while android is just like windows, google makes the software, hardware is made by other companies. so the amount can't be compared.
BTW: Android is not free. I know that for a fact and maybe, even you know that.
No, Android isn't free, but it is less expensive than the previous alternatives-- developing Symbian or another OS in-house, or buying WinMo. It effectively was a zero-sum game in terms of market share of the alternatives until RIM started destroying themselves.
Android has done very well for themselves, although the competing studies suggest that it isn't quite as much of a margin as would be expected.
They were so broke the couldn't buy NeXT. Oh wait, the opposite of that.
Being near bankruptcy and being broke are not the same thing. You think they are the she thing but you also think that all flavors of Android are the same thing so it's not like you are good at sweating the details.
Please, put that jerk on ignore. His ignorance is astounding which makes me believe he's just trying his best to goad people into a circular argument.
He also forgot about the billion Apple had in the bank in 1996.
Please, put that jerk on ignore. His ignorance is astounding which makes me believe he's just trying his best to goad people into a circular argument.
He also forgot about the billion Apple had in the bank in 1996.
Tss tss tss, what language!
Now, with 40 replies to whatever I wrote, who's the idiot?
Please just go back posting on the major changes of the iPhone5, being the size of the display. Who cares? I don't even now how large the screen is of my iPhone 3GS.
One might say that Android's story, a full year behind Apple, is even more impressive.)
Considering Android was the ONLY OS available that could compete with IOS, hardware makers had no choice but to use Android. And there are a lot of hardware makers trying to keep up with the iPhone. I bet if Apple licensed their IOS to other devices, Android would not exist at all.
Haha exactly. I love these suckers. They make me rich.
Well, you don't really know how much I did in that time frame, do you?
But let me help you, just considering the EUR/USD trade I make 20% more than you do since Antenna-gate. That's not only for my trades. And for the better part, it also includes the cost of living, day in, day out. Now, who's the sucker? Who's the richer?
Considering Android was the ONLY OS available that could compete with IOS, hardware makers had no choice but to use Android. And there are a lot of hardware makers trying to keep up with the iPhone. I bet if Apple licensed their IOS to other devices, Android would not exist at all.
if... if... if...
You might want to listen to Lou Rawl's If I coulda, shoulda, woulda
Of course, but that doesn't mean that Android was meant to be profitable, which was the argument.
(Please wake up)
I am fully awake and think you are asleep in a fantasy land. Do you think that ZTE wants to make no profit? Do you think Sammy wants to make no profit? Do you think HTC wants not to make a profit? Do you think MMI, LG and SE are happy with their associated handset devisions in the red?
Even Google has claimed they see an upside of $10/handset/year profit from Android. Get to a billion users and that is some real money at 10,000,000,000/year. Google sold the Android OHA on a value added potential for carriers and handset makers to open additional revenue streams.
Only someone dreaming in fantasy land would even begin to make the statement "that doesn't mean that Android was meant to be profitable". My response was fully, the argument is simply crazy and YES Android is meant to make a profit.
Well, you don't really know how much I did in that time frame, do you?
But let me help you, just considering the EUR/USD trade I make 20% more than you do since Antenna-gate. That's not only for my trades. And for the better part, it also includes the cost of living, day in, day out. Now, who's the sucker? Who's the richer?
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Perhaps they are but I don't think so. All I know is FB is one of the few sites that shows parity on access between iOS and Android and even then, there are more iPhones accessing FB accounts than Android. iOS will rocket ahead once FB makes the iPad app public.
I would expect much higher Android web usage statistics than what is out there (Android accounts for about 65%-75% less traffic compared to iOS on most major analytic sites) than what is being reported. Is it a result of use patterns? Demographics? Poor analysts figures? User Agent spoofing?
Here in Spain you will see more HTC (mostly Desire family) and Samsung Android smartphones than iPhones
Was Android ever meant to be profitable?
Were iTunes Store and the App Store (TM) ever meant to be profitable?
Yes and Yes. Crazy question of the day.
If Samsung, HTC, ZTE, Moto, Sony, LG... cannot make a sustained profit with a platform, they will drop the platform like a ton of bricks or the manufacture will drop like a ton of bricks.
Watch the original Google videos about Android providing a platform for carriers and handset makers to build value and profit on.
Yes and Yes. Crazy question of the day.
If Samsung, HTC, ZTE, Moto, Sony, LG... cannot make a sustained profit with a platform, they will drop the platform like a ton of bricks or the manufacture will drop like a ton of bricks.
Watch the original Google videos about Android providing a platform for carriers and handset makers to build value and profit on.
Of course, but that doesn't mean that Android was meant to be profitable, which was the argument.
(Please wake up)
Is there anyone here who thinks cgrisar made a point? Maybe someone else can explain it to me. Go slow, I'm no rocket surgeon.
He made the point that he is a glutton for punishment.
Perhaps they are but I don't think so. All I know is FB is one of the few sites that shows parity on access between iOS and Android and even then, there are more iPhones accessing FB accounts than Android. iOS will rocket ahead once FB makes the iPad app public.
I would expect much higher Android web usage statistics than what is out there (Android accounts for about 65%-75% less traffic compared to iOS on most major analytic sites) than what is being reported. Is it a result of use patterns? Demographics? Poor analysts figures? User Agent spoofing?
Have you seen the average Android user? People that think anyone others are stupid if they don't know how to root their phone and flash their baseband probably aren't the most social creatures and therefore don't have many friends on Facebook.
Have you seen the average Android user? People that think anyone others are stupid if they don't know how to root their phone and flash their baseband probably aren't the most social creatures and therefore don't have many friends on Facebook.
Is this the average iPhone user vision of average Android users?
Like the other part vision, totally wrong.
A full 30% behind? Ouch!
What "ouch" is that, troll? By what measure of business does Android's lead mean anything to Apple? Sales? Nope. Revenue? Nope. Profit? Nope. Better apps? Nope. Apps not available on iOS? Nope. Mindshare? Nope. Marketing advantage? Nope.
So I'll ask you again, troll, other than numbers of users, how this an "ouch" for Apple? You see, your fixation on numbers is the only thing you've got isn't it? That's all you can claim and it means virtually nothing. Same as saying Microsoft still has 80% of the desktop operating system market. Nobody cares anymore because Apple sells more than Microsoft, has more revenue than Microsoft, has more profits than Microsoft, and is worth more than Microsoft. Same goes for Google.
You trolls are a funny bunch of losers aren't you.
Of course, but that doesn't mean that Android was meant to be profitable, which was the argument.
(Please wake up)
So which is it? Android is eating Apple's lunch or Android was never meant to be profitable? How do you explain that Motorola has lost money the last two quarters? Are you really going to argue that Moto made a conscience choice to loss money for the benefit of the consumer?
A full 30% behind? Ouch!
What "ouch" is that, troll?
Apple is only 33% behind from monopolizing all the profits in the world's handset industry. Now that's a ouch! You'd think if Android-based vendors on the whole were able to uncut Apple and still turn a good profit they would done that by now. I guess there is something to be said about planning well.
He made the point that he is a glutton for punishment.
I stand corrected. Not sure how I missed that.
So how did instantly selling all your Apple stock as soon as the "Antenna-gate" story broke work out for you, again?
Haha exactly. I love these suckers. They make me rich.
BTW: Android is not free. I know that for a fact and maybe, even you know that.
No, Android isn't free, but it is less expensive than the previous alternatives-- developing Symbian or another OS in-house, or buying WinMo. It effectively was a zero-sum game in terms of market share of the alternatives until RIM started destroying themselves.
Android has done very well for themselves, although the competing studies suggest that it isn't quite as much of a margin as would be expected.
They were so broke the couldn't buy NeXT. Oh wait, the opposite of that.
Being near bankruptcy and being broke are not the same thing. You think they are the she thing but you also think that all flavors of Android are the same thing so it's not like you are good at sweating the details.
Please, put that jerk on ignore. His ignorance is astounding which makes me believe he's just trying his best to goad people into a circular argument.
He also forgot about the billion Apple had in the bank in 1996.
Please, put that jerk on ignore. His ignorance is astounding which makes me believe he's just trying his best to goad people into a circular argument.
He also forgot about the billion Apple had in the bank in 1996.
Tss tss tss, what language!
Now, with 40 replies to whatever I wrote, who's the idiot?
Please just go back posting on the major changes of the iPhone5, being the size of the display. Who cares? I don't even now how large the screen is of my iPhone 3GS.
One might say that Android's story, a full year behind Apple, is even more impressive.)
Considering Android was the ONLY OS available that could compete with IOS, hardware makers had no choice but to use Android. And there are a lot of hardware makers trying to keep up with the iPhone. I bet if Apple licensed their IOS to other devices, Android would not exist at all.
Haha exactly. I love these suckers. They make me rich.
Well, you don't really know how much I did in that time frame, do you?
But let me help you, just considering the EUR/USD trade I make 20% more than you do since Antenna-gate. That's not only for my trades. And for the better part, it also includes the cost of living, day in, day out. Now, who's the sucker? Who's the richer?
Considering Android was the ONLY OS available that could compete with IOS, hardware makers had no choice but to use Android. And there are a lot of hardware makers trying to keep up with the iPhone. I bet if Apple licensed their IOS to other devices, Android would not exist at all.
if... if... if...
You might want to listen to Lou Rawl's If I coulda, shoulda, woulda
Of course, but that doesn't mean that Android was meant to be profitable, which was the argument.
(Please wake up)
I am fully awake and think you are asleep in a fantasy land. Do you think that ZTE wants to make no profit? Do you think Sammy wants to make no profit? Do you think HTC wants not to make a profit? Do you think MMI, LG and SE are happy with their associated handset devisions in the red?
Even Google has claimed they see an upside of $10/handset/year profit from Android. Get to a billion users and that is some real money at 10,000,000,000/year. Google sold the Android OHA on a value added potential for carriers and handset makers to open additional revenue streams.
Only someone dreaming in fantasy land would even begin to make the statement "that doesn't mean that Android was meant to be profitable". My response was fully, the argument is simply crazy and YES Android is meant to make a profit.
Well, you don't really know how much I did in that time frame, do you?
But let me help you, just considering the EUR/USD trade I make 20% more than you do since Antenna-gate. That's not only for my trades. And for the better part, it also includes the cost of living, day in, day out. Now, who's the sucker? Who's the richer?
Not you.