I doubt Jobs will make an appearance. Cook needs to demonstrate that he can run the show all by himself.
It would be a better message to send if it was a team presentation rather than an all Tim Cook show. Since all the last few were team presentations, I would expect more of that.
Actually for media events they generally have them at the Yerba Buena Center for the Arts.
They do not have anything scheduled for Tuesday the 4th and we all know Apple like to have new products roll out on either Tuesday or Wednesday.
It's the 5th, at Yerba Buena Center for the Arts. I'll bet on it.
Oh, and I look forward to seeing Cook speak
I have a feeling you're correct. Looking at their calendar, for a day they have nothing planned, they say they don't. But for the 4th, the white text notice of nothing planned is not there, yet no event is either.
My wife and I are still struggling hard with our old busted up, barely working 3G phones. Total hoopties at this point. I will be camping out to get the new iPhone5's for us. Can't wait, but I will !
From Men in Black: Old and Busted (3G).....New Hotness (5).
The time is close, Hopefully the IPHONE5 will be as awesome and surprising as its predecessor.
As for Steve Jobs being there.....He should be there. He is an Icon and has brought Apple to the top. We all know that Tim Cook is running the show now and be assured that Cook would not take the position if he wasn't up for the challenge. Cook is a sharp guy and has been trained personally by Jobs for years.
True, Tim has proven that... but when Tim presents the iPhone 5 without Steve it'll make Steve's departure very real... and then the stock will sink 2%...
If it's a major product upgrade my guess is they will hold it at the Moscone so the journalists can play with the products afterwards. Media event on 27th or 28th, products released on Wed 5 Oct to tie in with the whole "five" theme (iPhone 5, iOS 5, etc).
Hmm, "October 5" = "10-5" (in American nomenclature), which looks just like "iOS".
Samsung announces plans to file a lawsuit seeking an injunction blocking Apple's announced media event for the iPhone 5 release. According to company officials, the planned media event closely copies Samsung's media events which they plan to hold next year, to announce the release of the newest Android phone: the Notai Phone!
Nice detective work. Looks like all 3 buildings are reserved for Oracle over the 4th. yet there is nothing on the 27th. But why would Apple mislead the media? If this release is not the same one given to the media, surely one of them would leak the real date in short time.
How can Apple have misled the media? Apple hasn't told the media anything.
AllThingsDigital got the Oct 4th scoop through an anonymous source, who quite simply could have been wrong or misled.
I have a feeling you're correct. Looking at [Yerba Buena Center] calendar, for a day they have nothing planned, they say they don't. But for the 4th, the white text notice of nothing planned is not there, yet no event is either.
And in fact, on Oct. 3rd it says there are no events scheduled that day, and that they next day with events is Oct. 4th. But on Oct. 4th, no special events are listed!
Don't be sad yet. It's just speculation at this point as to who will be presenting. Personally, I'd be surprised if Jobs was entirely absent the stage.
Sadly, I would be surprised to see Jobs. Steve Jobs loves Apple, and he is an absolute workaholic. He maintained his title of CEO through two very risky periods and surgeries, and he continued making appearances even as his health significantly deteriorated right before our eyes. I believe that he is so dedicated that he would never have given up his position as CEO of Apple unless his health has deteriorated even more than the last time he made a public appearance... and he looked very very ill then.
The bottom line is that I would not be surprised if Steve Jobs is done putting in public appearances. His health is simply really that bad. :-(
True, Tim has proven that... but when Tim presents the iPhone 5 without Steve it'll make Steve's departure very real... and then the stock will sink 2%...
Steve's departure IS very real, and with good reason. You don't think he would have stepped down if he isn't terribly ill do you? What do you think it will do to the stock if Steve puts in an appearance just for appearances sake, but his appearance is worse than not appearing at all?
It's time for people to just accept that Apple is Tim Cook's company and Tim Cook's show. If the stock sinks a bit because of nervous nelly investors, then so be it. Tim Cook and Steve Jobs are 100% focused on managing the company, not coddling the stock.
I would prefer to see Schiller do the presentation along with the other regular presenters regarding each of their related sections. I've seen Cook and he isn't as friendly as the others are on stage.
Steve's departure IS very real, and with good reason. You don't think he would have stepped down if he isn't terribly ill do you?
I used to think that way, but you should think business instead: when could there possibly be a better time for Jobs to step down than right before the release of the iPhone 5? He returned to Apple when the stock was worthless. He left when the company was the most valuable in the world and about to release a product that'll take it even higher. There couldn't possibly have been a better time for him to leave Apple and focus on his family and his health while basking in the glow of all that he built.
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I doubt Jobs will make an appearance. Cook needs to demonstrate that he can run the show all by himself.
It would be a better message to send if it was a team presentation rather than an all Tim Cook show. Since all the last few were team presentations, I would expect more of that.
Actually for media events they generally have them at the Yerba Buena Center for the Arts.
They do not have anything scheduled for Tuesday the 4th and we all know Apple like to have new products roll out on either Tuesday or Wednesday.
It's the 5th, at Yerba Buena Center for the Arts. I'll bet on it.
Oh, and I look forward to seeing Cook speak
I have a feeling you're correct. Looking at their calendar, for a day they have nothing planned, they say they don't. But for the 4th, the white text notice of nothing planned is not there, yet no event is either.
http://www.ybca.org/calendar?date[min][year]=2011&date[min][month]=10&date[min][day]=4&date[max][year]=2011&date[max][month]=10&date[max][day]=4&field_event_discipline_nid=All
My wife and I are still struggling hard with our old busted up, barely working 3G phones. Total hoopties at this point. I will be camping out to get the new iPhone5's for us. Can't wait, but I will !
From Men in Black: Old and Busted (3G).....New Hotness (5).
From Men in Black: Old and Busted (3G).....New Hotness (5).
Except if it has a larger screen and a curved back, it'll be Old Busted Hotness.
I doubt Jobs will make an appearance. Cook needs to demonstrate that he can run the show all by himself.
No he doesn't. He's already proven that.
As for Steve Jobs being there.....He should be there. He is an Icon and has brought Apple to the top. We all know that Tim Cook is running the show now and be assured that Cook would not take the position if he wasn't up for the challenge. Cook is a sharp guy and has been trained personally by Jobs for years.
No he doesn't. He's already proven that.
True, Tim has proven that... but when Tim presents the iPhone 5 without Steve it'll make Steve's departure very real... and then the stock will sink 2%...
Actually for media events they generally have them at the Yerba Buena Center for the Arts.
They do not have anything scheduled for Tuesday the 4th and we all know Apple like to have new products roll out on either Tuesday or Wednesday.
It's the 5th, at Yerba Buena Center for the Arts. I'll bet on it.
Oh, and I look forward to seeing Cook speak
... and this from Yerba Buena:
There are no programs on Tue, September 27, 2011. The next day with upcoming programs is Thu, September 29, 2011.
So... I'm still guessing the 27th. I've seen invites go out just 5-6 days from an event (I think). Maybe tomorrow we'll get an announcement.
If it's a major product upgrade my guess is they will hold it at the Moscone so the journalists can play with the products afterwards. Media event on 27th or 28th, products released on Wed 5 Oct to tie in with the whole "five" theme (iPhone 5, iOS 5, etc).
Hmm, "October 5" = "10-5" (in American nomenclature), which looks just like "iOS".
I'm off to the Vatican to find the next clue!
Samsung announces plans to file a lawsuit seeking an injunction blocking Apple's announced media event for the iPhone 5 release. According to company officials, the planned media event closely copies Samsung's media events which they plan to hold next year, to announce the release of the newest Android phone: the Notai Phone!
Nice detective work. Looks like all 3 buildings are reserved for Oracle over the 4th. yet there is nothing on the 27th. But why would Apple mislead the media? If this release is not the same one given to the media, surely one of them would leak the real date in short time.
How can Apple have misled the media? Apple hasn't told the media anything.
AllThingsDigital got the Oct 4th scoop through an anonymous source, who quite simply could have been wrong or misled.
Thompson
I place my bet still at September 27:
- Apple's favorite location for these events, the Moscone center is booked at October 4
- There is a mysterious gap in their list of events around Sept 27....
http://www.moscone.com/site/do/event/list
Observation: There's nothing between Oct 6th and Oct 12th either.
Question: Why have you honed in on Sept 27th?
Proposed Answer: Because you are biased by what you want to happen. Right?
Thompson
I have a feeling you're correct. Looking at [Yerba Buena Center] calendar, for a day they have nothing planned, they say they don't. But for the 4th, the white text notice of nothing planned is not there, yet no event is either.
http://www.ybca.org/calendar?date[min][year]=2011&date[min][month]=10&date[min][day]=4&date[max][year]=2011&date[max][month]=10&date[max][day]=4&field_event_discipline_nid=All
And in fact, on Oct. 3rd it says there are no events scheduled that day, and that they next day with events is Oct. 4th. But on Oct. 4th, no special events are listed!
Don't be sad yet. It's just speculation at this point as to who will be presenting. Personally, I'd be surprised if Jobs was entirely absent the stage.
Sadly, I would be surprised to see Jobs. Steve Jobs loves Apple, and he is an absolute workaholic. He maintained his title of CEO through two very risky periods and surgeries, and he continued making appearances even as his health significantly deteriorated right before our eyes. I believe that he is so dedicated that he would never have given up his position as CEO of Apple unless his health has deteriorated even more than the last time he made a public appearance... and he looked very very ill then.
The bottom line is that I would not be surprised if Steve Jobs is done putting in public appearances. His health is simply really that bad. :-(
Thompson
... and this from Yerba Buena:
There are no programs on Tue, September 27, 2011. The next day with upcoming programs is Thu, September 29, 2011.
So... I'm still guessing the 27th. I've seen invites go out just 5-6 days from an event (I think). Maybe tomorrow we'll get an announcement.
You really REALLY want this to happen on the 27th!
What is your evidence for this, other than your long held belief? Did it start with a rumor that had no more solid evidence than the new ones?
Thompson
True, Tim has proven that... but when Tim presents the iPhone 5 without Steve it'll make Steve's departure very real... and then the stock will sink 2%...
Steve's departure IS very real, and with good reason. You don't think he would have stepped down if he isn't terribly ill do you? What do you think it will do to the stock if Steve puts in an appearance just for appearances sake, but his appearance is worse than not appearing at all?
It's time for people to just accept that Apple is Tim Cook's company and Tim Cook's show. If the stock sinks a bit because of nervous nelly investors, then so be it. Tim Cook and Steve Jobs are 100% focused on managing the company, not coddling the stock.
Thompson
Steve's departure IS very real, and with good reason. You don't think he would have stepped down if he isn't terribly ill do you?
I used to think that way, but you should think business instead: when could there possibly be a better time for Jobs to step down than right before the release of the iPhone 5? He returned to Apple when the stock was worthless. He left when the company was the most valuable in the world and about to release a product that'll take it even higher. There couldn't possibly have been a better time for him to leave Apple and focus on his family and his health while basking in the glow of all that he built.