1.) I'm not talking about you, I'm talking about a lot of people here when it comes to specs. Oh, Retina display is so awesome, look at how many pixels. As soon as a quad core Android phone comes out, that's stupid....it's not need it, it's just a phone, etc.
2. I'm not talking about displays. I'm talking about how people say everything on apple 'just works' and everything on apple is finished, refined etc...
Ah, forget it.
I am one of the people that questioned the need for the A5 Dual-Duallie chip in an iPhone... the iPhone 4 A4 chip seemed (and still seems) more than adequate.
I suspect the game changer for the 4S was the additional processing power required for Siri.
On Android, raw horsepower (Quad Core) is. likely, more beneficial because:
-- the hardware is less-tightly integrated with the OS
-- the apps run in a Java variant
-- app pauses due to automatic garbage collection
-- unlimited/uncontrolled multitasking
Nothing wrong with this -- IBM did it for years -- throwing hardware at performance issues.
I am one of the people that questioned the need for the A5 Dual-Duallie chip in an iPhone... the iPhone 4 A4 chip seemed (and still seems) more than adequate.
I suspect the game changer for the 4S was the additional processing power required for Siri.
They also moved from Cortex-A8 to Cortex-A9 for the CPU. I think it's possible that they were also capable of adding the additional performance without sacrificing any power efficiency.
Is it likely a quad-core Apple A6 chip could do that? I don't think so unless they move to a Cortex-A15 or change up the battery tech. Is Cortex-A15 going to be ready for the iPad by March?
I am one of the people that questioned the need for the A5 Dual-Duallie chip in an iPhone... the iPhone 4 A4 chip seemed (and still seems) more than adequate.
I suspect the game changer for the 4S was the additional processing power required for Siri.
On Android, raw horsepower (Quad Core) is. likely, more beneficial because:
-- the hardware is less-tightly integrated with the OS
-- the apps run in a Java variant
-- app pauses due to automatic garbage collection
-- unlimited/uncontrolled multitasking
Nothing wrong with this -- IBM did it for years -- throwing hardware at performance issues.
..."There's no substitute for cubic inches"
I noticed on my 4S so far there's a difference in multitasking. Sure, I'm more limited....but I was surprised how the game is on pause in teh background. Even youtube videos. On my Vibrant it might pause (or just stop it completely) and it certainly doesn't resume Youtube videos (it just stops it).
Honestly, I'm wondering with the dual-core, aside from Siri, is needed for as everything runs so well (my sis has regular 4). I hope we get a REALLY good app that takes advantage.
So now that the Galaxy Nexus is shipping (at least in the UK), I wonder if AppleInsider will recant this hit piece? Almost every review has raved about the screen.
Consider:
T3: "the quality of the giant 4.6? glass panel is immediately apparent. Samsung has included a 1280x720 AMOLED screen, which is simply mind-blowing, with deep vibrant colours, and pin sharp detail. Blacks do look pixelated on close inspection, but overall, the picture is superb" - http://www.t3.com/reviews/samsung-galaxy-nexus-review
Techradar: "The screen quality of the Galaxy Nexus is as sumptuous as ever when it comes to Samsung screen - it lacked the colour depth of the Galaxy S2 in our eyes, but the sharpness of the screen was unrivalled, so it's clear to see the 4.65-inch screen is going to be a real winner for movies and the like." - http://www.techradar.com/news/phone-...review-1036487
The Verge: "The 1280 x 720, 4.65-inch display is quite a handsome affair, utilizing Super AMOLED technology, which produces rich colors while keeping battery consumption to a minimum. While the screen is a pentile display, the crispness of text and images was far superior to most lower resolution pentile displays I've seen." - http://www.theverge.com/2011/11/17/2...y-nexus-review
Engadget: "the 4.65-inch 1280x720 pixel screen is simply gorgeous despite using a PenTile matrix. Fonts are crisp, colors are vibrant, blacks are deep, and viewing angles are exceptional." - http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/17/g...essions-video/
CNET: "With a 1,280x720-pixel Super AMOLED resolution, the HD display is wonderfully bright and vivid with eye-popping colors. Everything looks great, from graphics to photos to menu icons." - http://reviews.cnet.com/smartphones/...-35042961.html
Wired UK: "It has a 4.7-inch Super AMOLED display, which is perfectly readable in bright sunlight, and is running at 1280x720-pixel resolution. It's clear and bright, and reproduces colours well." and "Its massive display looks fantastic" - http://www.wired.co.uk/reviews/mobil...e-phone-review
Wired: "the Galaxy Nexus? 1280 x 720 Super AMOLED screen delivers all the crisp, clear image quality that makes hardcore mobile enthusiasts flock to Samsung display technology." - http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2011/...-nexus-android
MobileSyrup: "The Galaxy Nexus has one of the most stunning screens we?ve ever seen. The pixels are so small as to be microscopic, and unless you utilize one you?re not going to see a PenTile grid. What you will see is sharp text, incredible viewing angles, perfect blacks and outstanding clarity." - http://mobilesyrup.com/2011/11/17/ga...verview-video/
So now that the Galaxy Nexus is shipping (at least in the UK), I wonder if AppleInsider will recant this hit piece? Almost every review has raved about the screen.
Consider:
T3: "the quality of the giant 4.6? glass panel is immediately apparent. Samsung has included a 1280x720 AMOLED screen, which is simply mind-blowing, with deep vibrant colours, and pin sharp detail. Blacks do look pixelated on close inspection, but overall, the picture is superb" - http://www.t3.com/reviews/samsung-galaxy-nexus-review
Techradar: "The screen quality of the Galaxy Nexus is as sumptuous as ever when it comes to Samsung screen - it lacked the colour depth of the Galaxy S2 in our eyes, but the sharpness of the screen was unrivalled, so it's clear to see the 4.65-inch screen is going to be a real winner for movies and the like." - http://www.techradar.com/news/phone-...review-1036487
The Verge: "The 1280 x 720, 4.65-inch display is quite a handsome affair, utilizing Super AMOLED technology, which produces rich colors while keeping battery consumption to a minimum. While the screen is a pentile display, the crispness of text and images was far superior to most lower resolution pentile displays I've seen." - http://www.theverge.com/2011/11/17/2...y-nexus-review
Engadget: "the 4.65-inch 1280x720 pixel screen is simply gorgeous despite using a PenTile matrix. Fonts are crisp, colors are vibrant, blacks are deep, and viewing angles are exceptional." - http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/17/g...essions-video/
CNET: "With a 1,280x720-pixel Super AMOLED resolution, the HD display is wonderfully bright and vivid with eye-popping colors. Everything looks great, from graphics to photos to menu icons." - http://reviews.cnet.com/smartphones/...-35042961.html
Wired UK: "It has a 4.7-inch Super AMOLED display, which is perfectly readable in bright sunlight, and is running at 1280x720-pixel resolution. It's clear and bright, and reproduces colours well." and "Its massive display looks fantastic" - http://www.wired.co.uk/reviews/mobil...e-phone-review
Wired: "the Galaxy Nexus? 1280 x 720 Super AMOLED screen delivers all the crisp, clear image quality that makes hardcore mobile enthusiasts flock to Samsung display technology." - http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2011/...-nexus-android
MobileSyrup: "The Galaxy Nexus has one of the most stunning screens we?ve ever seen. The pixels are so small as to be microscopic, and unless you utilize one you?re not going to see a PenTile grid. What you will see is sharp text, incredible viewing angles, perfect blacks and outstanding clarity." - http://mobilesyrup.com/2011/11/17/ga...verview-video/
So now that the Galaxy Nexus is shipping (at least in the UK), I wonder if AppleInsider will recant this hit piece? Almost every review has raved about the screen.
Consider:
Let's consider the very first review you post.
Quote:
T3: "the quality of the giant 4.6” glass panel is immediately apparent. Samsung has included a 1280x720 AMOLED screen, which is simply mind-blowing, with deep vibrant colours, and pin sharp detail. Blacks do look pixelated on close inspection, but overall, the picture is superb" - http://www.t3.com/reviews/samsung-galaxy-nexus-review
How can anything look pixelated at 316ppi. Seems strange…unless…. your resolution is based on sub-pixel counting which put is well out of the range of being Retina Display quality of 286ppi or higher for a 12" distance. Remember, the iPhone has been at 326" ppi IPS panel for a year and half. Not exactly anything Samsung should be patting themselves on the back for.
On another note, we have the performance of the device going against Apple's A5 chip released in the iPad almost a year ago. Even with the iPhone 4S at ~800MHz the ICS browser in a similar architecture CPU running 50% faster doesn't best the iPhone by 50%. What the hell is wrong with the HW and/or OS that this newer device isn't besting the iPhone.
The real goal isn't from subjective testing from some unknown review, but one that does extensive objective testing. We know a lot about PenTile being inferior and a false meter compared to other displays. That's a fact! Let's wait for a site like AnandTech to do a thorough review, but I'd wager it will end up like other Android-based devices and Windows-based devices before it, it will be inferior to the iPhone, iPad and Macs in terms of actual photo reproduction even though 1280x720 looks so fucking good on a spec sheet.
I was talking about the screen quality on the Galaxy Nexus. It's irrelevant who had a higher-res display first. Likewise, browser performance is irrelevant here (although, I find is pretty funny that AI enthusiasts are complaining that the Galaxy Nexus doesn't beat the 4S by an ever bigger margin. I'm truly in awe at the mental acrobatics on display here. But if you want to look at actual page-loading performance rather than a synthetic benchmark, give this a look - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQEC_Y5v3Zw#t=2m55s - and that was done by an iPhone review site, so no accusations of bias!).
This was a hit piece by AI, trying to smear the device before it shipped (much like the Roboto posts on DaringFireball). Almost every review of the Galaxy Nexus has /raved/ about the screen. In essence, the screen looks great, but if you hold it very close to your face and have just the right type of image on the screen, you can see some very minor problems.
You're doing what you so often do on here -- cherry picking which data point to emphasize to reinforce a prejudice. And when that fails, you move the goalposts (i.e., start talking about browser benchmarks in a discussion about screen quality).
I was talking about the screen quality on the Galaxy Nexus. It's irrelevant who had a higher-res display first. Likewise, browser performance is irrelevant here (although, I find is pretty funny that AI enthusiasts are complaining that the Galaxy Nexus doesn't beat the 4S by an ever bigger margin. I'm truly in awe at the mental acrobatics on display here. But if you want to look at actual page-loading performance rather than a synthetic benchmark, give this a look - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQEC_Y5v3Zw#t=2m55s - and that was done by an iPhone review site, so no accusations of bias!).
This was a hit piece by AI, trying to smear the device before it shipped (much like the Roboto posts on DaringFireball). Almost every review of the Galaxy Nexus has /raved/ about the screen. In essence, the screen looks great, but if you hold it very close to your face and have just the right type of image on the screen, you can see some very minor problems.
You're doing what you so often do on here -- cherry picking which data point to emphasize to reinforce a prejudice. And when that fails, you move the goalposts (i.e., start talking about browser benchmarks in a discussion about screen quality).
This. I'm not liking the very biased views on here. I mean, other sites have been biased. But Macrumors and The iPhone Blog have been very supportive even of competitive phones. It's just AI in particular that moves the goal posts. .
This. I'm not liking the very biased views on here. I mean, other sites have been biased. But Macrumors and The iPhone Blog have been very supportive even of competitive phones. It's just AI in particular that moves the goal posts. .
Yes, I agree. There is a striking difference between AI and MacRumors. I wonder why the folks on here behave this way. The 4S is a nice phone, so is the Galaxy Nexus. Different people will have different reasons for choosing one over the other, and that's fine.
Maybe I made a mistake with the forum software - I was replying to solipism, not criticizing your post. Sorry for any confusion.
But if you want to look at actual page-loading performance rather than a synthetic benchmark, give this a look - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQEC_Y5v3Zw#t=2m55s - and that was done by an iPhone review site, so no accusations of bias!).
Now that's just the type of comparison that really means something. Not a paper stat, but real use. Shockingly faster page loading than Apple's 4S. The Anandtech stat sheet couldn't tell that story. Thanks for the link!
I'm kinda interested in Solipsism's take on it vs, what he expected based on the paper results.
If I have understood the logic of RGBG Pentile tech correctly, then at high enough DPI it becomes strictly superior to RGB tech (disadvantages disappear, advantages stay). Nexus and quite possibly Note should be at that level, but unfortunately I haven't seen either powered up yet.
What's particularly amusing is an article written by someone who hadn't even seen the 720P version of a pentile-display and had no idea what they looked like in real life when he wrote it, and based in part on comments made by someone who had seen the Samsung Note, not the Nexus. Now add in 5 pages of comments by dozens of posters who also hadn't yet seen one either, yet some were ready, even anxious, to proclaim it was substandard and in no way as good as anything Apple uses.
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Major hypocrites here. When Apple does it, it's fine. When the compeittors do it, they are the worst thing in the world.
Let Android release Siri in beta....
[almost] Everything Google releases is beta!
[almost] Everything Google releases is beta!
Beta....MAX
1.) I'm not talking about you, I'm talking about a lot of people here when it comes to specs. Oh, Retina display is so awesome, look at how many pixels. As soon as a quad core Android phone comes out, that's stupid....it's not need it, it's just a phone, etc.
2. I'm not talking about displays. I'm talking about how people say everything on apple 'just works' and everything on apple is finished, refined etc...
Ah, forget it.
I am one of the people that questioned the need for the A5 Dual-Duallie chip in an iPhone... the iPhone 4 A4 chip seemed (and still seems) more than adequate.
I suspect the game changer for the 4S was the additional processing power required for Siri.
On Android, raw horsepower (Quad Core) is. likely, more beneficial because:
-- the hardware is less-tightly integrated with the OS
-- the apps run in a Java variant
-- app pauses due to automatic garbage collection
-- unlimited/uncontrolled multitasking
Nothing wrong with this -- IBM did it for years -- throwing hardware at performance issues.
..."There's no substitute for cubic inches"
Maybe we'll see small displays in the future that can be unfolded or unrolled into much larger displays.
What if you had a phone with a display that was able to slide-out to twice the size (similar to a slide-out QWERTY kb on some phones)?
I am one of the people that questioned the need for the A5 Dual-Duallie chip in an iPhone... the iPhone 4 A4 chip seemed (and still seems) more than adequate.
I suspect the game changer for the 4S was the additional processing power required for Siri.
They also moved from Cortex-A8 to Cortex-A9 for the CPU. I think it's possible that they were also capable of adding the additional performance without sacrificing any power efficiency.
Is it likely a quad-core Apple A6 chip could do that? I don't think so unless they move to a Cortex-A15 or change up the battery tech. Is Cortex-A15 going to be ready for the iPad by March?
I am one of the people that questioned the need for the A5 Dual-Duallie chip in an iPhone... the iPhone 4 A4 chip seemed (and still seems) more than adequate.
I suspect the game changer for the 4S was the additional processing power required for Siri.
On Android, raw horsepower (Quad Core) is. likely, more beneficial because:
-- the hardware is less-tightly integrated with the OS
-- the apps run in a Java variant
-- app pauses due to automatic garbage collection
-- unlimited/uncontrolled multitasking
Nothing wrong with this -- IBM did it for years -- throwing hardware at performance issues.
..."There's no substitute for cubic inches"
I noticed on my 4S so far there's a difference in multitasking. Sure, I'm more limited....but I was surprised how the game is on pause in teh background. Even youtube videos. On my Vibrant it might pause (or just stop it completely) and it certainly doesn't resume Youtube videos (it just stops it).
Honestly, I'm wondering with the dual-core, aside from Siri, is needed for as everything runs so well (my sis has regular 4). I hope we get a REALLY good app that takes advantage.
One of the great potentials of the AMOLED display, IMO, is its flexibility.
Maybe we'll see small displays in the future that can be unfolded or unrolled into much larger displays.
What if you had a phone with a display that was able to slide-out to twice the size (similar to a slide-out QWERTY kb on some phones)?
Isn't samsung working on this?
Also, I want a SUPERAMOLED T.V. That is all.
Consider:
T3: "the quality of the giant 4.6? glass panel is immediately apparent. Samsung has included a 1280x720 AMOLED screen, which is simply mind-blowing, with deep vibrant colours, and pin sharp detail. Blacks do look pixelated on close inspection, but overall, the picture is superb" - http://www.t3.com/reviews/samsung-galaxy-nexus-review
Techradar: "The screen quality of the Galaxy Nexus is as sumptuous as ever when it comes to Samsung screen - it lacked the colour depth of the Galaxy S2 in our eyes, but the sharpness of the screen was unrivalled, so it's clear to see the 4.65-inch screen is going to be a real winner for movies and the like." - http://www.techradar.com/news/phone-...review-1036487
The Verge: "The 1280 x 720, 4.65-inch display is quite a handsome affair, utilizing Super AMOLED technology, which produces rich colors while keeping battery consumption to a minimum. While the screen is a pentile display, the crispness of text and images was far superior to most lower resolution pentile displays I've seen." - http://www.theverge.com/2011/11/17/2...y-nexus-review
Engadget: "the 4.65-inch 1280x720 pixel screen is simply gorgeous despite using a PenTile matrix. Fonts are crisp, colors are vibrant, blacks are deep, and viewing angles are exceptional." - http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/17/g...essions-video/
CNET: "With a 1,280x720-pixel Super AMOLED resolution, the HD display is wonderfully bright and vivid with eye-popping colors. Everything looks great, from graphics to photos to menu icons." - http://reviews.cnet.com/smartphones/...-35042961.html
Wired UK: "It has a 4.7-inch Super AMOLED display, which is perfectly readable in bright sunlight, and is running at 1280x720-pixel resolution. It's clear and bright, and reproduces colours well." and "Its massive display looks fantastic" - http://www.wired.co.uk/reviews/mobil...e-phone-review
Wired: "the Galaxy Nexus? 1280 x 720 Super AMOLED screen delivers all the crisp, clear image quality that makes hardcore mobile enthusiasts flock to Samsung display technology." - http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2011/...-nexus-android
MobileSyrup: "The Galaxy Nexus has one of the most stunning screens we?ve ever seen. The pixels are so small as to be microscopic, and unless you utilize one you?re not going to see a PenTile grid. What you will see is sharp text, incredible viewing angles, perfect blacks and outstanding clarity." - http://mobilesyrup.com/2011/11/17/ga...verview-video/
So, AppleInsider -- time for a follow-up?
So now that the Galaxy Nexus is shipping (at least in the UK), I wonder if AppleInsider will recant this hit piece? Almost every review has raved about the screen.
Consider:
T3: "the quality of the giant 4.6? glass panel is immediately apparent. Samsung has included a 1280x720 AMOLED screen, which is simply mind-blowing, with deep vibrant colours, and pin sharp detail. Blacks do look pixelated on close inspection, but overall, the picture is superb" - http://www.t3.com/reviews/samsung-galaxy-nexus-review
Techradar: "The screen quality of the Galaxy Nexus is as sumptuous as ever when it comes to Samsung screen - it lacked the colour depth of the Galaxy S2 in our eyes, but the sharpness of the screen was unrivalled, so it's clear to see the 4.65-inch screen is going to be a real winner for movies and the like." - http://www.techradar.com/news/phone-...review-1036487
The Verge: "The 1280 x 720, 4.65-inch display is quite a handsome affair, utilizing Super AMOLED technology, which produces rich colors while keeping battery consumption to a minimum. While the screen is a pentile display, the crispness of text and images was far superior to most lower resolution pentile displays I've seen." - http://www.theverge.com/2011/11/17/2...y-nexus-review
Engadget: "the 4.65-inch 1280x720 pixel screen is simply gorgeous despite using a PenTile matrix. Fonts are crisp, colors are vibrant, blacks are deep, and viewing angles are exceptional." - http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/17/g...essions-video/
CNET: "With a 1,280x720-pixel Super AMOLED resolution, the HD display is wonderfully bright and vivid with eye-popping colors. Everything looks great, from graphics to photos to menu icons." - http://reviews.cnet.com/smartphones/...-35042961.html
Wired UK: "It has a 4.7-inch Super AMOLED display, which is perfectly readable in bright sunlight, and is running at 1280x720-pixel resolution. It's clear and bright, and reproduces colours well." and "Its massive display looks fantastic" - http://www.wired.co.uk/reviews/mobil...e-phone-review
Wired: "the Galaxy Nexus? 1280 x 720 Super AMOLED screen delivers all the crisp, clear image quality that makes hardcore mobile enthusiasts flock to Samsung display technology." - http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2011/...-nexus-android
MobileSyrup: "The Galaxy Nexus has one of the most stunning screens we?ve ever seen. The pixels are so small as to be microscopic, and unless you utilize one you?re not going to see a PenTile grid. What you will see is sharp text, incredible viewing angles, perfect blacks and outstanding clarity." - http://mobilesyrup.com/2011/11/17/ga...verview-video/
So, AppleInsider -- time for a follow-up?
This post made me laugh.
So now that the Galaxy Nexus is shipping (at least in the UK), I wonder if AppleInsider will recant this hit piece? Almost every review has raved about the screen.
Consider:
Let's consider the very first review you post.
T3: "the quality of the giant 4.6” glass panel is immediately apparent. Samsung has included a 1280x720 AMOLED screen, which is simply mind-blowing, with deep vibrant colours, and pin sharp detail. Blacks do look pixelated on close inspection, but overall, the picture is superb" - http://www.t3.com/reviews/samsung-galaxy-nexus-review
How can anything look pixelated at 316ppi. Seems strange…unless…. your resolution is based on sub-pixel counting which put is well out of the range of being Retina Display quality of 286ppi or higher for a 12" distance. Remember, the iPhone has been at 326" ppi IPS panel for a year and half. Not exactly anything Samsung should be patting themselves on the back for.
On another note, we have the performance of the device going against Apple's A5 chip released in the iPad almost a year ago. Even with the iPhone 4S at ~800MHz the ICS browser in a similar architecture CPU running 50% faster doesn't best the iPhone by 50%. What the hell is wrong with the HW and/or OS that this newer device isn't besting the iPhone.
The real goal isn't from subjective testing from some unknown review, but one that does extensive objective testing. We know a lot about PenTile being inferior and a false meter compared to other displays. That's a fact! Let's wait for a site like AnandTech to do a thorough review, but I'd wager it will end up like other Android-based devices and Windows-based devices before it, it will be inferior to the iPhone, iPad and Macs in terms of actual photo reproduction even though 1280x720 looks so fucking good on a spec sheet.
I was talking about the screen quality on the Galaxy Nexus. It's irrelevant who had a higher-res display first. Likewise, browser performance is irrelevant here (although, I find is pretty funny that AI enthusiasts are complaining that the Galaxy Nexus doesn't beat the 4S by an ever bigger margin. I'm truly in awe at the mental acrobatics on display here. But if you want to look at actual page-loading performance rather than a synthetic benchmark, give this a look - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQEC_Y5v3Zw#t=2m55s - and that was done by an iPhone review site, so no accusations of bias!).
This was a hit piece by AI, trying to smear the device before it shipped (much like the Roboto posts on DaringFireball). Almost every review of the Galaxy Nexus has /raved/ about the screen. In essence, the screen looks great, but if you hold it very close to your face and have just the right type of image on the screen, you can see some very minor problems.
You're doing what you so often do on here -- cherry picking which data point to emphasize to reinforce a prejudice. And when that fails, you move the goalposts (i.e., start talking about browser benchmarks in a discussion about screen quality).
Your post doesn't address my point.
I was talking about the screen quality on the Galaxy Nexus. It's irrelevant who had a higher-res display first. Likewise, browser performance is irrelevant here (although, I find is pretty funny that AI enthusiasts are complaining that the Galaxy Nexus doesn't beat the 4S by an ever bigger margin. I'm truly in awe at the mental acrobatics on display here. But if you want to look at actual page-loading performance rather than a synthetic benchmark, give this a look - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQEC_Y5v3Zw#t=2m55s - and that was done by an iPhone review site, so no accusations of bias!).
This was a hit piece by AI, trying to smear the device before it shipped (much like the Roboto posts on DaringFireball). Almost every review of the Galaxy Nexus has /raved/ about the screen. In essence, the screen looks great, but if you hold it very close to your face and have just the right type of image on the screen, you can see some very minor problems.
You're doing what you so often do on here -- cherry picking which data point to emphasize to reinforce a prejudice. And when that fails, you move the goalposts (i.e., start talking about browser benchmarks in a discussion about screen quality).
This. I'm not liking the very biased views on here. I mean, other sites have been biased. But Macrumors and The iPhone Blog have been very supportive even of competitive phones. It's just AI in particular that moves the goal posts. .
This. I'm not liking the very biased views on here. I mean, other sites have been biased. But Macrumors and The iPhone Blog have been very supportive even of competitive phones. It's just AI in particular that moves the goal posts. .
Yes, I agree. There is a striking difference between AI and MacRumors. I wonder why the folks on here behave this way. The 4S is a nice phone, so is the Galaxy Nexus. Different people will have different reasons for choosing one over the other, and that's fine.
Maybe I made a mistake with the forum software - I was replying to solipism, not criticizing your post. Sorry for any confusion.
But if you want to look at actual page-loading performance rather than a synthetic benchmark, give this a look - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQEC_Y5v3Zw#t=2m55s - and that was done by an iPhone review site, so no accusations of bias!).
Now that's just the type of comparison that really means something. Not a paper stat, but real use. Shockingly faster page loading than Apple's 4S. The Anandtech stat sheet couldn't tell that story. Thanks for the link!
I'm kinda interested in Solipsism's take on it vs, what he expected based on the paper results.
Major hypocrites here. When Apple does it, it's fine. When the compeittors do it, they are the worst thing in the world.
Let Android release Siri in beta....
yes of course because you are in a forum where apple is the main topic.. you should expect that...
yes of course because you are in a forum where apple is the main topic.. you should expect that...
But there's a difference between what AI does and Macrumors does. It's something I can't put my figner on exactly.
But there's a difference between what AI does and Macrumors does. It's something I can't put my figner on exactly.
AI writes articles, MR blogs.
I'm predicting RGBG Pentile for iPad3.