Jobs said, “I will spend my last dying breath if I need to,
and I will spend every penny of Apple’s $40 billion in the bank, to right this wrong.
I’m going to destroy Android, because it’s a stolen product.
I’m willing to go thermonuclear war on this.”
At a cafe in Palo Alto, Calif., (where the two men were photographed),
Jobs told Schmidt he was not interested in settling the lawsuit.
“I don’t want your money.
If you offer me $5 billion, I won’t want it.
I’ve got plenty of money.
I want you to stop using our ideas in Android, that’s all I want.”
I hope that Oracle CEO Larry Ellison, as a final gift for his best friend Steve Jobs, goes thermonuclear with Google and also refuses to settle over stolen property inside Android.
This is just plain stu***. Siri was an application just like any other that Apple decided to buy and add it to the base iOS. This is not something they came up with. Andoid had voice commands for the last couple of years so in my opinion Steve Gods bought it to be able to match what Andoird already had. Second there are other applications in both app stores with the same functionality so there is no reason for Google to add anything else to the core OS since Android already had it and customers that need more can get a free app and that's it. People in this site thinks that Steve Gods came up with the formula for Water, Air and he also invented fire. The only advantage they will always have over Google and MS is that Apple customers for the most part are tech illiterates that believe anything Apple tell them and you read countless stories on the web to prove like the chick put her MacBook in the bathroom with the camera on to fix some issue.
Most informed people who follow Appleinsider know that Apple did not invent Siri. And no other phone has the quality and extensive integration of voice control that Siri brings to the iPhone. Yes, other phones have voice control but not in the class of Siri.
Most informed people who follow Appleinsider know that Apple did not invent Siri. And no other phone has the quality and extensive integration of voice control that Siri brings to the iPhone. Yes, other phones have voice control but not in the class of Siri.
That guy fails to note iOS already had/has voice control and thinks that adding it to the OS does nothing for its usefulness. This recent article by Pogue sums it up nicely.
I hope that Oracle CEO Larry Ellison, as a final gift for his best friend Steve Jobs, goes thermonuclear with Google and also refuses to settle over stolen property inside Android.
The possibility of using this technology in flight sims and games is mind boggling!
The desktop version of Google Earth contains a flight sim.
Google already has the 3D data and most major cities are already modeled. They're presumably just waiting for web technologies to improve to the point they can use Google Earth data in the regular Google Maps.
I am not a huge Google fan. I am just amazed at some of the outlandish statements made without any facts. I highlighted some of the things in your statements. I agree with you that Apple was working on the iPhone and IOS long before they released the product.....probably some years of R&D went into the finished product. Steve Jobs has been quoted as saying he felt Android was stolen product. That he would destroy it with all of Apple's cash reserves if that what it took. So if they had one iota of proof they would be in court suing Schmidt/Google.
I thought it was common practice or requirement for recording to be done anytime a board was in session. So it would make it easy for Apple to establish what information Schmidt knew and when he knew it and then what his actions were after he obtained this info. Even if it was not recored they would have documentation of ALL things he knew. I am sure that Apple would have had Schmidt/Google under a very powerful microscope as far as their actions were concerned. Apple has taken to the courts for just about everything where they feel slighted in anyway and to protect their IP or copyrights. They have sued have sued Mac clone makers to small companies using product likeness to Samsung with a shape and feel complaint. Why then would they not go after Schmidt/Google? They could with one action kill Android or at least have and injunction upon devices being released with it until the suit was heard in effect killing Android.
Why not set a precedent through low hanging fruit first? Then you have legal justification for attacking a larger target.
He also said he can beat an early detected and easily removable rare slow spreading form of a deadly cancer (the form you'd wish to have if u had no choice) with new age bullshit.
So he wasn't always right.
A know-it-all that thinks life is black & white. Evil & good. What a child you are.
As for the cancer that he had you are not only wrong about the diagnosis & how "curable" it was...you obviously have never had someone close to you go through the trauma of treatment & all that entails.
Back on topic: Anyone that does not see the paradigm shift the iphone caused has their head up their ass & is delusional. Google did not bring any shift about...did they? Anyone that can't see that Google was a trusted partner with Apple & betrayed that trust is also delusional. Eric Schmidt was a trusted partner so much so that they made him a board member. Google has not had any paradigm shifting ideas with regards to Android. It's a knock off phone & OS. It is the theft of a grand idea. There is absolutely nothing original in it's overall concept.
He didn't have to. As a software partner I'm sure Google had access. Which is prety much why they will always develop software for Apple. Much the same reason MS always will. They get to see the cards before they are played.
As for the cancer that he had you are not only wrong about the diagnosis & how "curable" it was...you obviously have never had someone close to you go through the trauma of treatment & all that entails.
Back on topic: Anyone that does not see the paradigm shift the iphone caused has their head up their ass & is delusional. Google did not bring any shift about...did they? Anyone that can't see that Google was a trusted partner with Apple & betrayed that trust is also delusional. Eric Schmidt was a trusted partner so much so that they made him a board member. Google has not had any paradigm shifting ideas with regards to Android. It's a knock off phone & OS. It is the theft of a grand idea. There is absolutely nothing original in it's overall concept.
My Grandfather died January 2nd, 2011 at 2am from pancreatic cancer.
As for everything else u said. Do me a favor tell me what exactly Android slavishly stole from iOS. A bullet point list preferably. No one seems to be able to do that.
As for the cancer that he had you are not only wrong about the diagnosis & how "curable" it was...you obviously have never had someone close to you go through the trauma of treatment & all that entails.
Back on topic: Anyone that does not see the paradigm shift the iphone caused has their head up their ass & is delusional. Google did not bring any shift about...did they? Anyone that can't see that Google was a trusted partner with Apple & betrayed that trust is also delusional. Eric Schmidt was a trusted partner so much so that they made him a board member. Google has not had any paradigm shifting ideas with regards to Android. It's a knock off phone & OS. It is the theft of a grand idea. There is absolutely nothing original in it's overall concept.
Just put him on you ignore list, like I did. Replying to him just means I get to see his tripe.
My Grandfather died January 2nd, 2011 at 2am from pancreatic cancer.
As for everything else you said. Do me a favor tell me what exactly Android slavishly stole from iOS. A bullet point list preferably. No one seems to be able to do that.
I'm sorry for you're loss. My mom & dad both died from that disease. My dad said that he would have never gone through all the BS if he knew what the effects of it would have had on him (all for 1 more year of an unhealthy life).
Why don't you explain to me how Google had a paradigm shifting idea about what a smartphone is & how it should operate? What did Google do that was really that different? Add a better notification system? Add features. Give away the phone to build marketshare, a phone that Telcos adopted out of desperation? What did they do the does not mock the original iPhone as a paradigm shifting idea. Who did they have to convince to believe in an idea, product (that did not exist) in the phone industry to get the thing built & distributed under their terms? So you are saying Google would have come up with what Android is now of it's own volition? I don't think it would of happened. The evidence that you discount is all over the internet...but of course you need bullet points for a grand idea that is the sum of it's parts. That device has Apples influence all over it. There is nothing original about the concept of Android or the hardware. Can you really say the same thing about the iPhone & the first iOS?
I'm sorry for you're loss. My mom & dad both died from that disease. My dad said that he would have never gone through all the BS if he knew what the effects of it would be.
Why don't you explain to me how Google had a paradigm shifting idea about what a smartphone is & how it should operate? What did Google do that was really that different? Add a better notification system? Add features. Give away the phone to build marketshare, a phone that Telcos adopted out of desperation? What did they do the does not mock the original iPhone as a paradigm shifting idea. Who did they have to convince to believe in an idea, product (that did not exist) in the phone industry to get the thing built & distributed under their terms? So you are saying Google would have come up with what Android is now of it's own volition? I don't think it would of happened. The evidence that you discount is all over the internet...but of course you need bullet points for a grand idea that is the sum of it's parts. That device has Apples influence all over it. There is nothing original about the concept of Android or the hardware. Can you really say the same thing about the iPhone & the first iOS?
I don't think they did have a paradigm shifting idea. Or at least nothing as groundbreaking as iOS. My thing is that people seem genuinely upset that companies shifted focus after something changed the game.
I'm saying iOS and Android are different were created at the same time and as stock look and work differently.
I'm saying that Android saw iOS realized what they had at the time was no longer up to par so they had to modify the OS accordingly hence android 1.0.
I'm saying that doing such is perfectly acceptable I'm business as long as inspiration is not copying (G1 vs Galaxy S in my previous post)
Android has a lot of great ideas. None as groundbreaking as the original (and second) iPhone.
But it isn't a copy and no one can tell me how it is a copy.
I'm sorry for you're loss. My mom & dad both died from that disease. My dad said that he would have never gone through all the BS if he knew what the effects of it would have had on him (all for 1 more year of an unhealthy life).
Why don't you explain to me how Google had a paradigm shifting idea about what a smartphone is & how it should operate? What did Google do that was really that different? Add a better notification system? Add features. Give away the phone to build marketshare, a phone that Telcos adopted out of desperation? What did they do the does not mock the original iPhone as a paradigm shifting idea. Who did they have to convince to believe in an idea, product (that did not exist) in the phone industry to get the thing built & distributed under their terms? So you are saying Google would have come up with what Android is now of it's own volition? I don't think it would of happened. The evidence that you discount is all over the internet...but of course you need bullet points for a grand idea that is the sum of it's parts. That device has Apples influence all over it. There is nothing original about the concept of Android or the hardware. Can you really say the same thing about the iPhone & the first iOS?
Sorry for your losses and yea my grandfather after the cancer came back a second time opted for minimal care so he could at least function. I got to see him and all his old school cool a few more times before his death because of that.
Reading what I read about Jobs dilemma is actually upsetting more because my grandfather died from s similar complication. Had he had they rare slow growing and early detected form and had the option for treatment he'd probably be alive today.
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Jobs said, “I will spend my last dying breath if I need to,
and I will spend every penny of Apple’s $40 billion in the bank, to right this wrong.
I’m going to destroy Android, because it’s a stolen product.
I’m willing to go thermonuclear war on this.”
At a cafe in Palo Alto, Calif., (where the two men were photographed),
Jobs told Schmidt he was not interested in settling the lawsuit.
“I don’t want your money.
If you offer me $5 billion, I won’t want it.
I’ve got plenty of money.
I want you to stop using our ideas in Android, that’s all I want.”
I hope that Oracle CEO Larry Ellison, as a final gift for his best friend Steve Jobs, goes thermonuclear with Google and also refuses to settle over stolen property inside Android.
This is just plain stu***. Siri was an application just like any other that Apple decided to buy and add it to the base iOS. This is not something they came up with. Andoid had voice commands for the last couple of years so in my opinion Steve Gods bought it to be able to match what Andoird already had. Second there are other applications in both app stores with the same functionality so there is no reason for Google to add anything else to the core OS since Android already had it and customers that need more can get a free app and that's it. People in this site thinks that Steve Gods came up with the formula for Water, Air and he also invented fire. The only advantage they will always have over Google and MS is that Apple customers for the most part are tech illiterates that believe anything Apple tell them and you read countless stories on the web to prove like the chick put her MacBook in the bathroom with the camera on to fix some issue.
Most informed people who follow Appleinsider know that Apple did not invent Siri. And no other phone has the quality and extensive integration of voice control that Siri brings to the iPhone. Yes, other phones have voice control but not in the class of Siri.
Most informed people who follow Appleinsider know that Apple did not invent Siri. And no other phone has the quality and extensive integration of voice control that Siri brings to the iPhone. Yes, other phones have voice control but not in the class of Siri.
I hope that Oracle CEO Larry Ellison, as a final gift for his best friend Steve Jobs, goes thermonuclear with Google and also refuses to settle over stolen property inside Android.
Good for you
Post 97 I agree with, but post 99 and 105 you sound like a dick.
@ AbsoluteDesignz,
Post 97 I agree with, but post 99 and 105 you sound like a dick.
That was my intent. Childish yea,
It's annoying when people take respect to such an extreme level that it becomes deification.
The man was a man. A brilliant, entitled, bratty, creative, authoritative, humorous, often wrong, often right, man.
Back on topic
The possibility of using this technology in flight sims and games is mind boggling!
The desktop version of Google Earth contains a flight sim.
Google already has the 3D data and most major cities are already modeled. They're presumably just waiting for web technologies to improve to the point they can use Google Earth data in the regular Google Maps.
I am not a huge Google fan. I am just amazed at some of the outlandish statements made without any facts. I highlighted some of the things in your statements. I agree with you that Apple was working on the iPhone and IOS long before they released the product.....probably some years of R&D went into the finished product. Steve Jobs has been quoted as saying he felt Android was stolen product. That he would destroy it with all of Apple's cash reserves if that what it took. So if they had one iota of proof they would be in court suing Schmidt/Google.
I thought it was common practice or requirement for recording to be done anytime a board was in session. So it would make it easy for Apple to establish what information Schmidt knew and when he knew it and then what his actions were after he obtained this info. Even if it was not recored they would have documentation of ALL things he knew. I am sure that Apple would have had Schmidt/Google under a very powerful microscope as far as their actions were concerned. Apple has taken to the courts for just about everything where they feel slighted in anyway and to protect their IP or copyrights. They have sued have sued Mac clone makers to small companies using product likeness to Samsung with a shape and feel complaint. Why then would they not go after Schmidt/Google? They could with one action kill Android or at least have and injunction upon devices being released with it until the suit was heard in effect killing Android.
Why not set a precedent through low hanging fruit first? Then you have legal justification for attacking a larger target.
Why not set a precedent through low hanging fruit first? Then you have legal justification for attacking a larger target.
Or Schmidt didn't secret agent all over iOS.
He also said he can beat an early detected and easily removable rare slow spreading form of a deadly cancer (the form you'd wish to have if u had no choice) with new age bullshit.
So he wasn't always right.
A know-it-all that thinks life is black & white. Evil & good. What a child you are.
Here's a human side you may not have read.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/30/op...pagewanted=all
Try not being a dickhole.
As for the cancer that he had you are not only wrong about the diagnosis & how "curable" it was...you obviously have never had someone close to you go through the trauma of treatment & all that entails.
Back on topic: Anyone that does not see the paradigm shift the iphone caused has their head up their ass & is delusional. Google did not bring any shift about...did they? Anyone that can't see that Google was a trusted partner with Apple & betrayed that trust is also delusional. Eric Schmidt was a trusted partner so much so that they made him a board member. Google has not had any paradigm shifting ideas with regards to Android. It's a knock off phone & OS. It is the theft of a grand idea. There is absolutely nothing original in it's overall concept.
Or Schmidt didn't secret agent all over iOS.
Could be, but you don't know that & I don't know that. I was just offering another plausible argument.
Or Schmidt didn't secret agent all over iOS.
He didn't have to. As a software partner I'm sure Google had access. Which is prety much why they will always develop software for Apple. Much the same reason MS always will. They get to see the cards before they are played.
A know-it-all that thinks life is black & white. Evil & good. What a child you are.
Here's a human side you may not have read.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/30/op...pagewanted=all
Try not being a dickhole.
As for the cancer that he had you are not only wrong about the diagnosis & how "curable" it was...you obviously have never had someone close to you go through the trauma of treatment & all that entails.
Back on topic: Anyone that does not see the paradigm shift the iphone caused has their head up their ass & is delusional. Google did not bring any shift about...did they? Anyone that can't see that Google was a trusted partner with Apple & betrayed that trust is also delusional. Eric Schmidt was a trusted partner so much so that they made him a board member. Google has not had any paradigm shifting ideas with regards to Android. It's a knock off phone & OS. It is the theft of a grand idea. There is absolutely nothing original in it's overall concept.
My Grandfather died January 2nd, 2011 at 2am from pancreatic cancer.
As for everything else u said. Do me a favor tell me what exactly Android slavishly stole from iOS. A bullet point list preferably. No one seems to be able to do that.
Obviously that is the point, and you apparently read my reply out of context.
Apple simply needs voice guided, 3D map navigation.
Enter Siri v2
A know-it-all that thinks life is black & white. Evil & good. What a child you are.
Here's a human side you may not have read.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/30/op...pagewanted=all
Try not being a dickhole.
As for the cancer that he had you are not only wrong about the diagnosis & how "curable" it was...you obviously have never had someone close to you go through the trauma of treatment & all that entails.
Back on topic: Anyone that does not see the paradigm shift the iphone caused has their head up their ass & is delusional. Google did not bring any shift about...did they? Anyone that can't see that Google was a trusted partner with Apple & betrayed that trust is also delusional. Eric Schmidt was a trusted partner so much so that they made him a board member. Google has not had any paradigm shifting ideas with regards to Android. It's a knock off phone & OS. It is the theft of a grand idea. There is absolutely nothing original in it's overall concept.
Just put him on you ignore list, like I did. Replying to him just means I get to see his tripe.
Just put him on you ignore list, like I did. Replying to him just means I get to see his tripe.
Lol. So many opinion Nazis here.
"Oh no he doesn't agree with me boohoo let me ignore him so my dainty sensibilities aren't assaulted by non-likeminded ideas"
My Grandfather died January 2nd, 2011 at 2am from pancreatic cancer.
As for everything else you said. Do me a favor tell me what exactly Android slavishly stole from iOS. A bullet point list preferably. No one seems to be able to do that.
I'm sorry for you're loss. My mom & dad both died from that disease. My dad said that he would have never gone through all the BS if he knew what the effects of it would have had on him (all for 1 more year of an unhealthy life).
Why don't you explain to me how Google had a paradigm shifting idea about what a smartphone is & how it should operate? What did Google do that was really that different? Add a better notification system? Add features. Give away the phone to build marketshare, a phone that Telcos adopted out of desperation? What did they do the does not mock the original iPhone as a paradigm shifting idea. Who did they have to convince to believe in an idea, product (that did not exist) in the phone industry to get the thing built & distributed under their terms? So you are saying Google would have come up with what Android is now of it's own volition? I don't think it would of happened. The evidence that you discount is all over the internet...but of course you need bullet points for a grand idea that is the sum of it's parts. That device has Apples influence all over it. There is nothing original about the concept of Android or the hardware. Can you really say the same thing about the iPhone & the first iOS?
Lol. So many opinion Nazis here.
"Oh no he doesn't agree with me boohoo let me ignore him so my dainty sensibilities aren't assaulted by non-likeminded ideas"
It's childish comments that like that make people want to ignore you, not a well reasoned post that counters another's opinion.
Case in point, I just disagreed with digitalclips a few minutes ago: http://forums.appleinsider.com/showp...2&postcount=91
I'm sorry for you're loss. My mom & dad both died from that disease. My dad said that he would have never gone through all the BS if he knew what the effects of it would be.
Why don't you explain to me how Google had a paradigm shifting idea about what a smartphone is & how it should operate? What did Google do that was really that different? Add a better notification system? Add features. Give away the phone to build marketshare, a phone that Telcos adopted out of desperation? What did they do the does not mock the original iPhone as a paradigm shifting idea. Who did they have to convince to believe in an idea, product (that did not exist) in the phone industry to get the thing built & distributed under their terms? So you are saying Google would have come up with what Android is now of it's own volition? I don't think it would of happened. The evidence that you discount is all over the internet...but of course you need bullet points for a grand idea that is the sum of it's parts. That device has Apples influence all over it. There is nothing original about the concept of Android or the hardware. Can you really say the same thing about the iPhone & the first iOS?
I don't think they did have a paradigm shifting idea. Or at least nothing as groundbreaking as iOS. My thing is that people seem genuinely upset that companies shifted focus after something changed the game.
I'm saying iOS and Android are different were created at the same time and as stock look and work differently.
I'm saying that Android saw iOS realized what they had at the time was no longer up to par so they had to modify the OS accordingly hence android 1.0.
I'm saying that doing such is perfectly acceptable I'm business as long as inspiration is not copying (G1 vs Galaxy S in my previous post)
Android has a lot of great ideas. None as groundbreaking as the original (and second) iPhone.
But it isn't a copy and no one can tell me how it is a copy.
I'm sorry for you're loss. My mom & dad both died from that disease. My dad said that he would have never gone through all the BS if he knew what the effects of it would have had on him (all for 1 more year of an unhealthy life).
Why don't you explain to me how Google had a paradigm shifting idea about what a smartphone is & how it should operate? What did Google do that was really that different? Add a better notification system? Add features. Give away the phone to build marketshare, a phone that Telcos adopted out of desperation? What did they do the does not mock the original iPhone as a paradigm shifting idea. Who did they have to convince to believe in an idea, product (that did not exist) in the phone industry to get the thing built & distributed under their terms? So you are saying Google would have come up with what Android is now of it's own volition? I don't think it would of happened. The evidence that you discount is all over the internet...but of course you need bullet points for a grand idea that is the sum of it's parts. That device has Apples influence all over it. There is nothing original about the concept of Android or the hardware. Can you really say the same thing about the iPhone & the first iOS?
Sorry for your losses and yea my grandfather after the cancer came back a second time opted for minimal care so he could at least function. I got to see him and all his old school cool a few more times before his death because of that.
Reading what I read about Jobs dilemma is actually upsetting more because my grandfather died from s similar complication. Had he had they rare slow growing and early detected form and had the option for treatment he'd probably be alive today.