Apple has certainly invited attacks by going just a tad over the edge with their attempts to keep viable competitors out of the marketplace.
If that is what you think then you don't understand out trademark and trade dress laws work.
Or that Apple doesn't mind competition, so long as they are playing fair.
Oh and don't be shocked if Apple is already filing motions to prevent questions about upcoming products and even motions calling pretty much everyone other than Ive totally irrelevant and getting those deposition requests dismissed as harassment.
Apple CAN'T compete. They just run ahead of the pack. They get scared when competition comes (weird, as it's capitalism that got them to where they are). Don't people get that Apple has been more irreleveant in it's history than relevant? Only in the past 10 years (one could argue even a little less) have they become a viable company. Don't go knocking eggs. With the death of your leader you stand the true test.
Just like the Romans.
'Scared', pa-shah. Apple is behaving like any other capitalist company. Think record companies, movie studios, Edison- Westinghouse etc etc. Sueing the other guy is characteristic of true blue capitalism.
'Scared', pa-shah. Apple is behaving like any other capitalist company. Think record companies, movie studios, Edison- Westinghouse etc etc. Sueing the other guy is characteristic of true blue capitalism.
Sorry, but that is an absurd statement. At minimum Ive is subject to the control of the board, just like Cook. So he is not the most powerful; he has at least one peer.
And I would be extremely surprised if Cook could not fire him, although he may need permission from the board or the COB, but that is not unusual for very high-level employees.
Apple Insider, gets worse and worse everyday. Sensationalist articles.
Many of these factories have been funded by Apple. (For example the 1 billion pre payment for flash memory in 2005).
Horace Dediu of Asymco.com http://www.asymco.com/2011/10/27/the...s-ios-volumes/ seems to think that Apple bought the equipment that sits in Samsung's and other vendors' factories (at minimum Apple carries it as capex and depreciates it over years). So imagine how Samsung now has Apple by the short hairs - "Well, we have $5B of your equipment sitting here. You can contiunue to work with us or say bye-bye to $5B. Oh, and by the way, we want you to buy us some more equipment for that next generation product, OK?"
Maybe I am not understanding how this equipment is financed and who actually "owns" it, but it can't be good for Apple right now. Those upfront payments also make a captive of Apple.
Apple CAN'T compete. They just run ahead of the pack. They get scared when competition comes (weird, as it's capitalism that got them to where they are). Don't people get that Apple has been more irreleveant in it's history than relevant? Only in the past 10 years (one could argue even a little less) have they become a viable company. Don't go knocking eggs. With the death of your leader you stand the true test.
Just like the Romans.
You really don't pay attention at all do you? Apple has always had competition, and usually is not the majority market player. How in the world did you come to determine that they get scared of competition? Being innovative is not irrelevant, as they have demonstrated a couple of times now. They show greater growth in PC sales than the rest of the industry, slowly eroding away at the Windows majority consistently for the last several years. They innovated into and then lead and continue to lead the PMP segment with the iPod series. They innovated the smartphone category, establishing a new benchmark for a minority segment of the mobile market, that is now set to take over the much larger feature phone majority segment.
You also show an appalling lack when it comes to understanding history as well. Which Roman leader are you referencing and why? And at which stage of Roman history? With over 140 Roman imperial rulers spanning from 27BC/BCE thru 476AD/CE you have a plethora of potential examples, but none of which resulted in the "Fall of Rome".
Care to refine your statements into something that makes more sense?
Maybe. But there are very few manufacturers who can turn out the components Apple needs with high yields and low defect rates. Very few. Samsung is one of those few.
My hunch is these legal skirmishes will play themselves out many years before Apple and Samsung part ways. This whole design patent business has done well for AppleInsider, but ultimately it won't be what Apple builds its future on. Their future is not so slender as to hinge on an abstract drawing of a rectangular object that looks very little like anything they've made. Apple is far more innovative than many here give them credit.
Um......I think most people here give too much credit.
Apple does need to innovate continuously. Otherwise they might go the way of SONY.
This is ridiculous - speaking as a lawyer, this is nothing more than a stall tactic and annoyance by Samsung's counsel; Apple's product came first, so there's little to nothing to be gained by deposing its designers.
They can and they do, even in situations where there is no sufficient justification for such misdeeds:
"Criminal charges were also added by Apple in December of last year, but those charges were also dismissed due to a lack of "sufficient justification.""
Oh and don't be shocked if Apple is already filing motions to prevent questions about upcoming products and even motions calling pretty much everyone other than Ive totally irrelevant and getting those deposition requests dismissed as harassment.
Nothing that Apple does shocks me anymore. Not even filing unjustified criminal charges against innocent small manufacturers in order to have their merchandise seized at the ports.
Nope. At this point, Apple seems capable of pretty much anything.
When they made bullshit immigration threats and pretended to be police so they could ransack that guy's house for their lost iPhone - that was the incident which proved to me just what sort of a nasty megacorporate monster Apple has become.
Nothing that Apple does shocks me anymore. Not even filing unjustified criminal charges against innocent small manufacturers in order to have their merchandise seized at the ports.
Nope. At this point, Apple seems capable of pretty much anything.
When they made bullshit immigration threats and pretended to be police so they could ransack that guy's house for their lost iPhone - that was the incident which proved to me just what sort of a nasty megacorporate monster Apple has become.
I think the only company in the world that says Don't be Evil is Google. Then again.......
It's funny how quickly you get an infraction point for an ad hominem attack (and I'm okay with that)... but you can skirt around the TOS by just using obvious taunts, trolling and antagonism time and time again without a warning... unless one or more members bitch loudly.
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Apple has certainly invited attacks by going just a tad over the edge with their attempts to keep viable competitors out of the marketplace.
If that is what you think then you don't understand out trademark and trade dress laws work.
Or that Apple doesn't mind competition, so long as they are playing fair.
Oh and don't be shocked if Apple is already filing motions to prevent questions about upcoming products and even motions calling pretty much everyone other than Ive totally irrelevant and getting those deposition requests dismissed as harassment.
Apple CAN'T compete. They just run ahead of the pack. They get scared when competition comes (weird, as it's capitalism that got them to where they are). Don't people get that Apple has been more irreleveant in it's history than relevant? Only in the past 10 years (one could argue even a little less) have they become a viable company. Don't go knocking eggs. With the death of your leader you stand the true test.
Just like the Romans.
'Scared', pa-shah. Apple is behaving like any other capitalist company. Think record companies, movie studios, Edison- Westinghouse etc etc. Sueing the other guy is characteristic of true blue capitalism.
'Scared', pa-shah. Apple is behaving like any other capitalist company. Think record companies, movie studios, Edison- Westinghouse etc etc. Sueing the other guy is characteristic of true blue capitalism.
Is Westinghouse even relevant today?
Sorry, but that is an absurd statement. At minimum Ive is subject to the control of the board, just like Cook. So he is not the most powerful; he has at least one peer.
And I would be extremely surprised if Cook could not fire him, although he may need permission from the board or the COB, but that is not unusual for very high-level employees.
Apple Insider, gets worse and worse everyday. Sensationalist articles.
Many of these factories have been funded by Apple. (For example the 1 billion pre payment for flash memory in 2005).
Horace Dediu of Asymco.com http://www.asymco.com/2011/10/27/the...s-ios-volumes/ seems to think that Apple bought the equipment that sits in Samsung's and other vendors' factories (at minimum Apple carries it as capex and depreciates it over years). So imagine how Samsung now has Apple by the short hairs - "Well, we have $5B of your equipment sitting here. You can contiunue to work with us or say bye-bye to $5B. Oh, and by the way, we want you to buy us some more equipment for that next generation product, OK?"
Maybe I am not understanding how this equipment is financed and who actually "owns" it, but it can't be good for Apple right now. Those upfront payments also make a captive of Apple.
Apple CAN'T compete. They just run ahead of the pack. They get scared when competition comes (weird, as it's capitalism that got them to where they are). Don't people get that Apple has been more irreleveant in it's history than relevant? Only in the past 10 years (one could argue even a little less) have they become a viable company. Don't go knocking eggs. With the death of your leader you stand the true test.
Just like the Romans.
You really don't pay attention at all do you? Apple has always had competition, and usually is not the majority market player. How in the world did you come to determine that they get scared of competition? Being innovative is not irrelevant, as they have demonstrated a couple of times now. They show greater growth in PC sales than the rest of the industry, slowly eroding away at the Windows majority consistently for the last several years. They innovated into and then lead and continue to lead the PMP segment with the iPod series. They innovated the smartphone category, establishing a new benchmark for a minority segment of the mobile market, that is now set to take over the much larger feature phone majority segment.
You also show an appalling lack when it comes to understanding history as well. Which Roman leader are you referencing and why? And at which stage of Roman history? With over 140 Roman imperial rulers spanning from 27BC/BCE thru 476AD/CE you have a plethora of potential examples, but none of which resulted in the "Fall of Rome".
Care to refine your statements into something that makes more sense?
Maybe. But there are very few manufacturers who can turn out the components Apple needs with high yields and low defect rates. Very few. Samsung is one of those few.
My hunch is these legal skirmishes will play themselves out many years before Apple and Samsung part ways. This whole design patent business has done well for AppleInsider, but ultimately it won't be what Apple builds its future on. Their future is not so slender as to hinge on an abstract drawing of a rectangular object that looks very little like anything they've made. Apple is far more innovative than many here give them credit.
Um......I think most people here give too much credit.
Apple does need to innovate continuously. Otherwise they might go the way of SONY.
Are they going to try to get Apple Designers to say they stole designs before Samsung stole them.
That seems pretty unlikely to me.
Apple cannot file criminal charges.
They can and they do, even in situations where there is no sufficient justification for such misdeeds:
"Criminal charges were also added by Apple in December of last year, but those charges were also dismissed due to a lack of "sufficient justification.""
http://www.appleinsider.com/articles...from_apple.htm
Oh and don't be shocked if Apple is already filing motions to prevent questions about upcoming products and even motions calling pretty much everyone other than Ive totally irrelevant and getting those deposition requests dismissed as harassment.
Nothing that Apple does shocks me anymore. Not even filing unjustified criminal charges against innocent small manufacturers in order to have their merchandise seized at the ports.
Nope. At this point, Apple seems capable of pretty much anything.
When they made bullshit immigration threats and pretended to be police so they could ransack that guy's house for their lost iPhone - that was the incident which proved to me just what sort of a nasty megacorporate monster Apple has become.
that was the incident which proved to me just what sort of a nasty megacorporate monster Apple has become.
Idea: Leave, then.
I won't ever buy another Samsung product.
At this point, Apple might want to seriously consider walking away from its supplier contract with Samsung.
Nothing that Apple does shocks me anymore. Not even filing unjustified criminal charges against innocent small manufacturers in order to have their merchandise seized at the ports.
Nope. At this point, Apple seems capable of pretty much anything.
When they made bullshit immigration threats and pretended to be police so they could ransack that guy's house for their lost iPhone - that was the incident which proved to me just what sort of a nasty megacorporate monster Apple has become.
I think the only company in the world that says Don't be Evil is Google. Then again.......
I won't ever buy another Samsung product.
I doubt there are many Apple products that don't contain Samsung products.
Idea: Leave, then.
It's funny how quickly you get an infraction point for an ad hominem attack (and I'm okay with that)... but you can skirt around the TOS by just using obvious taunts, trolling and antagonism time and time again without a warning... unless one or more members bitch loudly.
Anyway... off topic.... carry on.
Samsung stinks etc.