You're a Reupblican that owns an Apple product. Mind blown.
I saw an Anti-Obama bumper sticker on a Prius yesterday....I verified it must have been a Republican, because the freaking bumper sticker was on straight.
Look at the YouTube thing, posted a few months ago, that someone posted the URL for (look above). Typical Microsoft marketing. It's fishy. The whole thing has the stink of a Microsoft "vision of the future." The tipoff: the dialogue is perfect. It's not just natural language, it's elliptical, and one of the questions would have to be repeated to make sense. Tip-off: the tablet at the end doesn't exist, and it seems to be running WP7!
Didn't MS say just a few weeks ago Siri was a waste of tech and no one wants or needs to talk into their phone? ... Now they're claiming they had it first? Make up your mind - which is it, MSFT!!??!
Didn't MS say just a few weeks ago Siri was a waste of tech and no one wants or needs to talk into their phone? ... Now they're claiming they had it first? Make up your mind - which is it, MSFT!!??!
Andy Lees thinks talking to your phone in certain places (like your car) is useful, and doing it in public is not so useful.
Google's Andy Rubin said "Your phone is a tool for communicating. You shouldn?t be communicating with the phone; you should be communicating with somebody on the other side of the phone"
"Maybe we need to pick a feature and hammer on it harder."
If you need someone to TELL you "voice control that works" is a game-changer, pure sci-fi, everything changes now function - it make me wonder who is actually in charge of not just marketing but the entire strategy......
It's just not well thought out in the way it's used, and video clearly demonstrated that it's functionality is limited and unfocused. It's like Siri in many general aspects, but it's the way all these technologies are put together, including good natural language support, that makes it a breakthrough the way the original iPhone was a breakthrough in world that already had smartphone and touchscreens.
I'm sorry but to me it seems like you're just jealous that Apple copied MS's TellMe and named it Siri.
I'm sorry but to me it seems like you're just jealous that Apple copied MS's TellMe and named it Siri.
Yes, we're all very jealous that Apple copied a Microsoft promotional video about fictional software that they might one day get around to making. Not really keeping up, are we?
Apple is about integration. They've been building out an integrated meta-platform for over 10 years. They don't have warring internal factions, the OS X people aren't sabotaging Apple TV because of turf battles, the iPod Touch doesn't get hamstrung because the iPhone people are jealous of their empire. If MS wants to whine about how they don't get credit for being innovative, then for god's sake stop letting your lieutenants create autonomous silos and pick a master plan and freaking stick to it. You don't get to complain if you can't execute.
Apple doesn't have warring internal factions? If so that would be unusual in a company the size of Apple. I reckon they do, to an extent, but such 'normal' battles over "what should we do given the myriad of choices available to us?" don't make it out into the public.
I'm sorry but to me it seems like you're just jealous that Apple copied MS's TellMe and named it Siri.
You know something Steve Jobs was telling the truth with the "magical" part, things that normally take years to develop and test before they are ready for release, are done within weeks or months of Apple's secret wizards seeing them.
Down to the magical labs, whip up a few spells and poof a fully working model, bugs ironed out and ready to sell.
There Apple really uses magic, it's the only explanation.
Apple doesn't have warring internal factions? If so that would be unusual in a company the size of Apple. I reckon they do, to an extent, but such 'normal' battles over "what should we do given the myriad of choices available to us?" don't make it out into the public.
They don't have it because Steve acted as final arbiter of everything. That doesn't mean that such rivalries might not develop in the post-Steve Apple, but as it stands everything is coordinated around a roadmap that Steve had final say on.
Moreover, Apple is very unusual for being such a huge company with such a small, focused product line. It's not really surprising that there isn't much internal strife when everything is working to a common purpose, and there aren't that many things to begin with. Computers running OS X and apps, iOS devices and apps. And lately, cloud services.
MS explicitly encourages competition between divisions and groups, and there are a lot of them. Windows has the power to thwart innovation elsewhere in the company, as occurred with the whole Courier fiasco and the subsequent loss of key personnel. You get things like arbitrary distinctions between Windows Phone 7 and Windows on a tablet, because Windows must be honored. You get things like the day late and the dollar short Zune, sort of left out there to die, because the Zune people never had the internal clout to influence the roadmap.
You never see stuff like that at Apple. The iPhone doesn't get hobbled to service OS X hegemony, OS X doesn't lose functionality to prop up some notion about how iOS is strategically marketed. MS feels like a collection of companies, all vying for the limelight by any means necessary. Apple feels like a cohesive whole where all the parts serve a unified vision of how the future should work.
They are either lying or have piss poor marketing. My cousin has had a WP7 phone for a year and this is the first time either of us have heard of this voice control functionality.
Well, now we know who's in charge of the people whining about "THE CASE DIDN'T CHANGE, THE CASE DIDN'T CHANGE. SAME PHONE. SAME PHONE."
It is stupid. Computers hardly changed in a decade, every year it's the same thing but with a faster chip inside. Heck, most of Dell's computers are the same rickedy chassis with different paint schemes and different chips inside.
If you guys can't post without mentioning politics, please don't post. It's not even close to being on topic. If you have an axe to grind, you need to go elsewhere. We have Political Outsider, save for that, it doesn't belong on this site. See a political comment, don't reply with more political comments, just report it or ignore it.
I've deleted a lot of political posts in this thread. Let me know if I missed one.
Sour grapes from Microsoft. Why am I not surprised.
The Windows phone is rapidly disappearing in the iPhone's rear view mirror.
You mean like how the iPhone is disappearing into Android's rear view mirror?
Microsoft have deep pockets so Windows Phone isn't going to disappear. With Nokia on board now and pushing out beautiful (albeit currently very underpowered) devices which are unique to the platform, and with Metro taking over Windows 8 and Xbox 360, things will turn around.
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You're a Reupblican that owns an Apple product. Mind blown.
I saw an Anti-Obama bumper sticker on a Prius yesterday....I verified it must have been a Republican, because the freaking bumper sticker was on straight.
Didn't MS say just a few weeks ago Siri was a waste of tech and no one wants or needs to talk into their phone? ... Now they're claiming they had it first? Make up your mind - which is it, MSFT!!??!
Andy Lees thinks talking to your phone in certain places (like your car) is useful, and doing it in public is not so useful.
Google's Andy Rubin said "Your phone is a tool for communicating. You shouldn?t be communicating with the phone; you should be communicating with somebody on the other side of the phone"
It sounds like you got your Andy's mixed up!
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Every time one of their competitors (MS, Nokia...) try to come out with something Appleish they just look like idiots, <..>
KRR
True, and the logical conclusion (Spock's saying) which comes out is : they ARE idiots
repeat after me : Beauty ........
"Maybe we need to pick a feature and hammer on it harder."
If you need someone to TELL you "voice control that works" is a game-changer, pure sci-fi, everything changes now function - it make me wonder who is actually in charge of not just marketing but the entire strategy......
MS's comparison of Tell Me to Siri is just wrong on every level of wrongness.
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iB6pWs46GY8 (video)
It's just not well thought out in the way it's used, and video clearly demonstrated that it's functionality is limited and unfocused. It's like Siri in many general aspects, but it's the way all these technologies are put together, including good natural language support, that makes it a breakthrough the way the original iPhone was a breakthrough in world that already had smartphone and touchscreens.I'm sorry but to me it seems like you're just jealous that Apple copied MS's TellMe and named it Siri.
I suggest that you delete your post, otherwise I am going to have to reply to it and liberals won't like what I will say about them.
Really? Will someone hold you at gunpoint at the keyboard?
The only reason you'll have to reply is you can't rise above a petty political troll.
I'm sorry but to me it seems like you're just jealous that Apple copied MS's TellMe and named it Siri.
Yes, we're all very jealous that Apple copied a Microsoft promotional video about fictional software that they might one day get around to making. Not really keeping up, are we?
Apple is about integration. They've been building out an integrated meta-platform for over 10 years. They don't have warring internal factions, the OS X people aren't sabotaging Apple TV because of turf battles, the iPod Touch doesn't get hamstrung because the iPhone people are jealous of their empire. If MS wants to whine about how they don't get credit for being innovative, then for god's sake stop letting your lieutenants create autonomous silos and pick a master plan and freaking stick to it. You don't get to complain if you can't execute.
Apple doesn't have warring internal factions? If so that would be unusual in a company the size of Apple. I reckon they do, to an extent, but such 'normal' battles over "what should we do given the myriad of choices available to us?" don't make it out into the public.
I'm sorry but to me it seems like you're just jealous that Apple copied MS's TellMe and named it Siri.
You know something Steve Jobs was telling the truth with the "magical" part, things that normally take years to develop and test before they are ready for release, are done within weeks or months of Apple's secret wizards seeing them.
Down to the magical labs, whip up a few spells and poof a fully working model, bugs ironed out and ready to sell.
There Apple really uses magic, it's the only explanation.
ARE YOU HAPPY NOW, troll?
P.S.
Apple really has no experience with talking computers.
Apple doesn't have warring internal factions? If so that would be unusual in a company the size of Apple. I reckon they do, to an extent, but such 'normal' battles over "what should we do given the myriad of choices available to us?" don't make it out into the public.
They don't have it because Steve acted as final arbiter of everything. That doesn't mean that such rivalries might not develop in the post-Steve Apple, but as it stands everything is coordinated around a roadmap that Steve had final say on.
Moreover, Apple is very unusual for being such a huge company with such a small, focused product line. It's not really surprising that there isn't much internal strife when everything is working to a common purpose, and there aren't that many things to begin with. Computers running OS X and apps, iOS devices and apps. And lately, cloud services.
MS explicitly encourages competition between divisions and groups, and there are a lot of them. Windows has the power to thwart innovation elsewhere in the company, as occurred with the whole Courier fiasco and the subsequent loss of key personnel. You get things like arbitrary distinctions between Windows Phone 7 and Windows on a tablet, because Windows must be honored. You get things like the day late and the dollar short Zune, sort of left out there to die, because the Zune people never had the internal clout to influence the roadmap.
You never see stuff like that at Apple. The iPhone doesn't get hobbled to service OS X hegemony, OS X doesn't lose functionality to prop up some notion about how iOS is strategically marketed. MS feels like a collection of companies, all vying for the limelight by any means necessary. Apple feels like a cohesive whole where all the parts serve a unified vision of how the future should work.
The silicon chip inside her head
Gets switched to overload
And nobody?s gonna go to school today
She?s gonna make them stay at home
And daddy doesn?t understand it
He always said she was good as gold
And he can see no reasons
'Cos there are no reasons
What reason do you need to be show-ow-ow-ow-own?
Tell me why
I don?t like Mundies
Tell me why
I don?t like Mundies
Tell me why
I don?t like Mundies
I wanna shoo-oo-woo-woo-woo-oot the whole day down
The Telex machine is kept so clean
And it types to a waiting world
And mother feels so shocked
Father?s world is rocked
And their thoughts turn to their own little girl
Sweet 16 ain?t that peachy keen
Now that ain?t so neat to admit defeat
They can see no reasons
'Cuz there are no reasons
What reasons do you need?
Oh Oh oh whoa whoa
Tell me why
I don?t like Mundies
Tell me why
I don?t like Mundies
Tell me why
I don?t like Mundies
I wanna shoo-oo-oo-woo-woo-oot
The whole day down, down, down, shoot it all down
And all the playing's stopped in the playground now
She wants to play with the toys a while
And school's out early and soon we'll be learning
And the lesson today is how to die
And then the bullhorn crackles
And the captain tackles
(With the problems of the how's and why's)
And he can see no reasons
'Cos there are no reasons
What reason do you need to die, die?
Oh Oh Oh
Tell me why
I don?t like Mundies
Tell me why
I don?t like Mundies
Tell me why
I don?t like
I don?t like (Tell me why)
I don?t like Mundies
Tell me why
I don?t like
I don?t like (Tell me why)
I don?t like Mundies
Tell me why
I don't like Mundies
I wanna shoo-oo-oo-woo-woo-woot the whole day down
I don't know why this sort of fits.
MS's comparison of Tell Me to Siri is just wrong on every level of wrongness.
Oh hell that commercial was pukarific!
Well, now we know who's in charge of the people whining about "THE CASE DIDN'T CHANGE, THE CASE DIDN'T CHANGE. SAME PHONE. SAME PHONE."
It is stupid. Computers hardly changed in a decade, every year it's the same thing but with a faster chip inside. Heck, most of Dell's computers are the same rickedy chassis with different paint schemes and different chips inside.
I'm sorry but to me it seems like you're just jealous that Apple copied MS's TellMe and named it Siri.
How do you copy an AI without stealing code? If you can't explain that, please prove Apple stole code. Otherwise, GTFO troll.
I've deleted a lot of political posts in this thread. Let me know if I missed one.
Sour grapes from Microsoft. Why am I not surprised.
The Windows phone is rapidly disappearing in the iPhone's rear view mirror.
You mean like how the iPhone is disappearing into Android's rear view mirror?
Microsoft have deep pockets so Windows Phone isn't going to disappear. With Nokia on board now and pushing out beautiful (albeit currently very underpowered) devices which are unique to the platform, and with Metro taking over Windows 8 and Xbox 360, things will turn around.
It's just going to take a few more years.