the National Football League has a channel on the DirectTV satellite service that shows up to 9 NFL games simultaneously on a single screen.
If that is a broadcast service and not VOD like the iPad Directv app and lets you select each stream, that would solve that problem.
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You are carrying on about watching two games. For the vast majority of fans, I am at a loss to see what MDTV lacks that sports fans expect from traditional broadcasts.
Not just multiple games but multiple feeds e.g different camera angles but you're right, if it's no worse than what traditional sports broadcast offers, it's no really that big of a deal and it can be supplemented with VOD over data networks when its available.
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Originally Posted by Mr. Me
When we talk about Mobile DTV in North America, we are talking about ATSC-M/H, a standard that is based on the ATSC standard that all full-power and many low-power broadcast TV stations adhere to.
So Apple would have to put different systems in place for different regions? ATSC-M/H for America, DVB-H for Europe, DTMB-T/H and CMMB for China, 1seg for Japan. So if you bought a GSM phone in America, which you could use in Europe, you couldn't use the TV features.
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I believe that are making too much of the aerial issue. Back when TV signals were made available to homeowners, this is what the aerials looked like. They are a bit smaller now.
Are there any mobile ATSC-capable devices on the market right now that don't use a telescopic antenna or do you think this will be one of the announcements at CES 2012 or possibly an Apple-exclusive engineering development?
Apple have all the cards they've developed to play into the same nail gun or trip hammer they used on the PC industry, the OS industry, the music industry, the portable industry, the phone industry, the eco-system industry, the chip industry, the print industry, the magazine retail industry, the portal and (soon to be game console industry....)
They're be a tv store, I'm guessing...where you'll buy programs ala cartee like you doo ibooks, igames, iapps, imusic ietc. It's not a big leap as some Tv content providers have already got their noses in the trough with this one...and yes, Cable providers have become squealing. They'll have to get used to it...
...just as metallic or the record industry didn't like Apple splitting up an album of fillers with the odd hit...similarly there'll be res' to single sale programs without all the repeats you've seen and the crap you don't want to see. Why programs are different to movies I don't know. They won't be.
Apple, long term, can either buy a movie studio in addition to their Disney links or just go to content /program makers directly and fcuk the middle men studios.
Content is the big issue. Certainly. But with music, print industry, game industry...etc...it's just a dambusting feather in Apple's cap. A matter of time before it breaks. And when it does...Apple's software will be teh qualitative difference.
It's about power. Hollywood on the movies side of the transatlantic pond (personally, I think their dot to dot style plots suck but that's just me...along with the trite American cultural saccharine imperialism...but maybe a movie 'app store' will allow some of the indies chance to break through and get some reward...)
As for progs the power lies with Cable providers. They're due a beating. It's a case of how long eg Sky in the UK can hang on fleecing people £35-£75 for repeats and the occ' Premier League Match. Borrowed time they're on is my guess.
And having just bought an awesome Panasonic 50 inch...well, helped my Mum to buy one for her house (£350 each...) with five year guarantee (beat that Apple care...) and two pairs of 3d glasses...I'm personally more interested in the Apple TV 2 as a standalone box. Apple'[s software is the key. Reducing customer's TV to a blank tv controlled by Apple's interface eg iPad as remote and ATV to handle streaming.
But they'll content in addition to an excellent interface (the Panasonic's interface for internet and apps or services is....rubbish. And this is where TV makers are going to get the same beating the smart phone makers received.)
Sure, they'll make an ATV set. With an ATV2 built in with PS3 class graphics for a built in console. Nobody will care that much about a PS4 or 720 when care of an iPad 3 via air streaming, an iPhone 5 care of air streaming or an ATV with inbuilt a6 with the latests gpu will more than rival a 7+ year old PS3 (more than all the gaming system people will need for the next handful of years anyhow...) So along with the pounding Apple's giving portable gaming, the console market will be next...and looks pretty vulnerable and ripe for the taking... The iPad 2 already has PS2 quality graphics and I bet the iPad 3 will rival a PS3. More than good enough for the casual gamer market. My Mum's loving the PS3 Batman Arkham City, heavenly sword (an old game...but still great graphics...) and LA Noire...and the Heavy Rain graphics will take some beating for a while yet by any degree worth gushing about.
Siri voice control in the set? Or via IPad? Sure. Along with a simple remote. ANd a far updated ATv interface. As slick and simple as hell. It's a no-brainer. Take your pick. Voice. Remote etc. Yer mobile...yer Mac yer watever.
As for the actual sets.
37, 42, 50 or 37, 46, 55. Seems a good spread. Apple in your Dorm. Apple in your bedroom... (Baby...) or Apple in your Living room. Takes yer pick.
Quality wise? LED? Backlighting? iMac-esque design, wall mountable... I had the iMac in my Mum's living room to tide her over until the TV could be picked up...and it did internet tv brilliantly with a gorgeous LED screen. Made me think, 'This is it. This is the APple tv...' bar the interface which will be grandma or Lemon Bon Bon proof. Oled? Don't see it. Super hi-def?
Why? There's no 3d content. And despite a £700 investment in the Panasonic there's no HD content either? Bar four channels on freeview. And Sky want you to pay £10 a month for the priv' despite using an arm to pay for the TV set? I don't think so. It's all kinda a drip drop drip feed rip off.
it's ripe for Apple to walk in and 'blow the bloody doors off..!'
The monopoly of tv is coming to an end. The transatlantic hedgemony of the 'big 6' (or whatever) oligarch conglomerates that controls the '1 note' news, music and content we receive is under threat. I hope Apple stab it right in the heart.
...and twist the knife.
Tik, tik...tik....the clock is ticking.
(For those worried about price, the £1000 ipad never materialised, did it? It came in at a rival crippling £399. Same witn the revamped Air. Quality at a price that rivals can't match. This aint the Mactintosh launch. I fully expect the TV to be competitive on quality and price and give Panasonic and Samsung a black eye in the process. Samsung copied ipHone....well, they're going to have to bend over when they see Apple get their own back with AtV.
So Apple would have to put different systems in place for different regions? ATSC-M/H for America, DVB-H for Europe, DTMB-T/H and CMMB for China, 1seg for Japan. So if you bought a GSM phone in America, which you could use in Europe, you couldn't use the TV features.
This is an issue that every multinational TV set manufacturer deals with. It would be nice if Earth's governments were to come together and select a single standard for each delivery mechanism. But they have not done so in the past. If the present is a guide to the future, then things will be worse in the future. However, manufacturers expect to sell a lot of product into each market.
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Originally Posted by Marvin
Are there any mobile ATSC-capable devices on the market right now that don't use a telescopic antenna or do you think this will be one of the announcements at CES 2012 or possibly an Apple-exclusive engineering development?
A handheld TV is a radio that displays pictures and sound. There are numerous examples of radios whose aerials have been collapsed into the body. As I wrote earlier, the iPhone 4/iPhone 4S has two aerials integrated into the frame of the phone. If Samsung can integrate the aerial of its MDTV-enabled phones into the body of the device, then I am confident that the engineers at Apple will somehow figure it out.
I do not expect Apple to make an MDTV or any other announcement at CES. Certainly Apple is not going to come out and say that it has solved the TV aerial problem before announcing its reentry into the TV set business.
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the National Football League has a channel on the DirectTV satellite service that shows up to 9 NFL games simultaneously on a single screen.
If that is a broadcast service and not VOD like the iPad Directv app and lets you select each stream, that would solve that problem.
You are carrying on about watching two games. For the vast majority of fans, I am at a loss to see what MDTV lacks that sports fans expect from traditional broadcasts.
Not just multiple games but multiple feeds e.g different camera angles but you're right, if it's no worse than what traditional sports broadcast offers, it's no really that big of a deal and it can be supplemented with VOD over data networks when its available.
When we talk about Mobile DTV in North America, we are talking about ATSC-M/H, a standard that is based on the ATSC standard that all full-power and many low-power broadcast TV stations adhere to.
So Apple would have to put different systems in place for different regions? ATSC-M/H for America, DVB-H for Europe, DTMB-T/H and CMMB for China, 1seg for Japan. So if you bought a GSM phone in America, which you could use in Europe, you couldn't use the TV features.
I believe that are making too much of the aerial issue. Back when TV signals were made available to homeowners, this is what the aerials looked like. They are a bit smaller now.
Are there any mobile ATSC-capable devices on the market right now that don't use a telescopic antenna or do you think this will be one of the announcements at CES 2012 or possibly an Apple-exclusive engineering development?
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Apple have all the cards they've developed to play into the same nail gun or trip hammer they used on the PC industry, the OS industry, the music industry, the portable industry, the phone industry, the eco-system industry, the chip industry, the print industry, the magazine retail industry, the portal and (soon to be game console industry....)
They're be a tv store, I'm guessing...where you'll buy programs ala cartee like you doo ibooks, igames, iapps, imusic ietc. It's not a big leap as some Tv content providers have already got their noses in the trough with this one...and yes, Cable providers have become squealing. They'll have to get used to it...
...just as metallic or the record industry didn't like Apple splitting up an album of fillers with the odd hit...similarly there'll be res' to single sale programs without all the repeats you've seen and the crap you don't want to see. Why programs are different to movies I don't know. They won't be.
Apple, long term, can either buy a movie studio in addition to their Disney links or just go to content /program makers directly and fcuk the middle men studios.
Content is the big issue. Certainly. But with music, print industry, game industry...etc...it's just a dambusting feather in Apple's cap. A matter of time before it breaks. And when it does...Apple's software will be teh qualitative difference.
It's about power. Hollywood on the movies side of the transatlantic pond (personally, I think their dot to dot style plots suck but that's just me...along with the trite American cultural saccharine imperialism...but maybe a movie 'app store' will allow some of the indies chance to break through and get some reward...)
As for progs the power lies with Cable providers. They're due a beating. It's a case of how long eg Sky in the UK can hang on fleecing people £35-£75 for repeats and the occ' Premier League Match. Borrowed time they're on is my guess.
And having just bought an awesome Panasonic 50 inch...well, helped my Mum to buy one for her house (£350 each...) with five year guarantee (beat that Apple care...) and two pairs of 3d glasses...I'm personally more interested in the Apple TV 2 as a standalone box. Apple'[s software is the key. Reducing customer's TV to a blank tv controlled by Apple's interface eg iPad as remote and ATV to handle streaming.
But they'll content in addition to an excellent interface (the Panasonic's interface for internet and apps or services is....rubbish. And this is where TV makers are going to get the same beating the smart phone makers received.)
Sure, they'll make an ATV set. With an ATV2 built in with PS3 class graphics for a built in console. Nobody will care that much about a PS4 or 720 when care of an iPad 3 via air streaming, an iPhone 5 care of air streaming or an ATV with inbuilt a6 with the latests gpu will more than rival a 7+ year old PS3 (more than all the gaming system people will need for the next handful of years anyhow...) So along with the pounding Apple's giving portable gaming, the console market will be next...and looks pretty vulnerable and ripe for the taking... The iPad 2 already has PS2 quality graphics and I bet the iPad 3 will rival a PS3. More than good enough for the casual gamer market. My Mum's loving the PS3 Batman Arkham City, heavenly sword (an old game...but still great graphics...) and LA Noire...and the Heavy Rain graphics will take some beating for a while yet by any degree worth gushing about.
Siri voice control in the set? Or via IPad? Sure. Along with a simple remote. ANd a far updated ATv interface. As slick and simple as hell. It's a no-brainer. Take your pick. Voice. Remote etc. Yer mobile...yer Mac yer watever.
As for the actual sets.
37, 42, 50 or 37, 46, 55. Seems a good spread. Apple in your Dorm. Apple in your bedroom... (Baby...) or Apple in your Living room. Takes yer pick.
Quality wise? LED? Backlighting? iMac-esque design, wall mountable... I had the iMac in my Mum's living room to tide her over until the TV could be picked up...and it did internet tv brilliantly with a gorgeous LED screen. Made me think, 'This is it. This is the APple tv...' bar the interface which will be grandma or Lemon Bon Bon proof. Oled? Don't see it. Super hi-def?
Why? There's no 3d content. And despite a £700 investment in the Panasonic there's no HD content either? Bar four channels on freeview. And Sky want you to pay £10 a month for the priv' despite using an arm to pay for the TV set? I don't think so. It's all kinda a drip drop drip feed rip off.
it's ripe for Apple to walk in and 'blow the bloody doors off..!'
The monopoly of tv is coming to an end. The transatlantic hedgemony of the 'big 6' (or whatever) oligarch conglomerates that controls the '1 note' news, music and content we receive is under threat. I hope Apple stab it right in the heart.
...and twist the knife.
Tik, tik...tik....the clock is ticking.
(For those worried about price, the £1000 ipad never materialised, did it? It came in at a rival crippling £399. Same witn the revamped Air. Quality at a price that rivals can't match. This aint the Mactintosh launch. I fully expect the TV to be competitive on quality and price and give Panasonic and Samsung a black eye in the process. Samsung copied ipHone....well, they're going to have to bend over when they see Apple get their own back with AtV.
This party...is over.)
Lemon Bon Bon.
We'll see.
Lemon Bon Bon.
...
So Apple would have to put different systems in place for different regions? ATSC-M/H for America, DVB-H for Europe, DTMB-T/H and CMMB for China, 1seg for Japan. So if you bought a GSM phone in America, which you could use in Europe, you couldn't use the TV features.
This is an issue that every multinational TV set manufacturer deals with. It would be nice if Earth's governments were to come together and select a single standard for each delivery mechanism. But they have not done so in the past. If the present is a guide to the future, then things will be worse in the future. However, manufacturers expect to sell a lot of product into each market.
Are there any mobile ATSC-capable devices on the market right now that don't use a telescopic antenna or do you think this will be one of the announcements at CES 2012 or possibly an Apple-exclusive engineering development?
A handheld TV is a radio that displays pictures and sound. There are numerous examples of radios whose aerials have been collapsed into the body. As I wrote earlier, the iPhone 4/iPhone 4S has two aerials integrated into the frame of the phone. If Samsung can integrate the aerial of its MDTV-enabled phones into the body of the device, then I am confident that the engineers at Apple will somehow figure it out.
I do not expect Apple to make an MDTV or any other announcement at CES. Certainly Apple is not going to come out and say that it has solved the TV aerial problem before announcing its reentry into the TV set business.