Apple asks for US preliminary injunction of Samsung's Android 4.0 Galaxy Nexus

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  • Reply 301 of 448
    slurpyslurpy Posts: 5,384member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by popnfresh View Post


    I'm sure he's terrified now!



    BTW, as a former iPhone user and current Galaxy Nexus owner I can confirm from actual experience that the Galaxy Nexus is a FAR superior phone.



    Thanks for that 'confirmation', we can all sleep easy now. FYI I also own both phones, and you're kind of full of it. They're different and both have their good and bad points, and appeal to different people depending on their priorities. To say the NG is 'FAR superior' is just completely idiocy and lack of any type of objectivity. Off the top of my head, 5 areas it is VASTLY inferior in is the camera (garbage, and compares to the 4S just embarrassing), GPU (much less powerful), build quality (not even close). I can also mention the screen, although it is massive and higher resolution, is much lower quality to my eyes in turns of color balance, viewing angles, saturation, light bleed, etc. Last, the battery life doesn't compare in my experience. I didn't even mention performance, in which stuttering is not uncommon, even while scrolling simple lists- inexcusable for such high end hardware. And we're not even getting into the app situation, which most would agree is vastly superior on an iOS device and will be the deciding factor for most people, and the fact that the phone is physically too large for many.



    Who does the NG appeal to? Those who want a massive phone, are neck-deep in the google ecosystem, have the need to customize/root/hack, and for some reason hate iOS.



    But hey, thanks for that 'confirmation'.
  • Reply 302 of 448
    sennensennen Posts: 1,472member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by I am a Zither Zather Zuzz View Post


    Which mistakes have you admitted to? I don't remember a single one.



    In all your time here since Jan 2012, right?
  • Reply 303 of 448
    neo42neo42 Posts: 287member
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    Originally Posted by mgsarch View Post


    Really??? Because what we as consumer's really need is a market without competing products ... <sigh>



    I used a Galaxy Nexus for a couple of weeks. It's a nice device. It's not remotely similar to my iPhone 4S ... Ice Cream Sandwich (Android 4.0) is not remotely similar to iOS. Between the OS and the device itself, it couldn't be more different. I don't get where Apple thinks they have any grounds for an injunction.



    IMHO, Apple will never be granted this injunction and, as a shareholder, it infuriates me to see them wasting more money on lawsuits that are contradictory to the greater good. Apple should compete through innovation, not through underhanded litigation. This injunction hurts *everyone* except Apple.



    I love Apple products, I'm a shareholder, but I must say, Apple's litigiousness is really starting to rub me the wrong way.



    It doesnt matter if you like Apple's stuff. Around here there is no dissonance allowed by questioning the company's ethics.
  • Reply 304 of 448
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    Originally Posted by muppetry View Post


    Well in the sense of parading a future product, yes. But, to quote from the same source:



    "This latest addition to the Transformer family is set to become available midway through the second quarter of 2012."



    When is the iPad3 expected?



    It is currently on sale.



    http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listi...&condition=new
  • Reply 305 of 448
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    Originally Posted by Slurpy View Post


    But unlike that tablet and others that will be satisfied with slapping such a screen on the device and calling it a day, Apple will no doubt be unveiling a whole host of software and possibly OS applications and enhancements that will instantly leverage and take full advantage of this increased resolution.



    AFAIK, Asus is not a software house.



    The other good thing about the Prime is the quad-core (five, actually) chip which gives it longer battery life/greater power depending on the task.



    One of the best things about Apple is their integrated approach. My guess is that you are correct, and that they will have eye-popping graphics to go along with their display.



    IMO, a high-rez display will make the new iPad MUCH more desirable than the current offerings.
  • Reply 306 of 448
    neo42neo42 Posts: 287member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by I am a Zither Zather Zuzz View Post


    Global Thermonuclear War always has exactly one winner.



    Obviously Apple wins. They are the most innovative after all and protected by intellectual property that is lightyears ahead offering 100% thermonuclear protection
  • Reply 307 of 448
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by anantksundaram View Post


    Yea!!!!!



    And, how many did they sell?



    I think you missed the point of the exchange.
  • Reply 308 of 448
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by I am a Zither Zather Zuzz View Post


    It is currently on sale.



    http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listi...&condition=new



    That's the original. The higher resolution one is not, no.
  • Reply 309 of 448
    neo42neo42 Posts: 287member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Slurpy View Post


    But unlike that tablet and others that will be satisfied with slapping such a screen on the device and calling it a day, Apple will no doubt be unveiling a whole host of software and possibly OS applications and enhancements that will instantly leverage and take full advantage of this increased resolution.



    If by enhancements you mean the removal of suffering from reading low res text, then yes i'd agree. Photo editing would be markedly better but I doubt I'll be in any rush to do so when i have a desktop to do it properly.



    I look forward to using my unknown-next-gen-high-res-tablet for reading and monitor extension
  • Reply 310 of 448
    muppetrymuppetry Posts: 3,331member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by I am a Zither Zather Zuzz View Post


    It is currently on sale.



    http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listi...&condition=new



    So it is. Strange that the article you linked to, dated two days ago, stated otherwise. It's Amazon review ratings seem poor compared to the iPad2 ratings, but maybe as the bugs get ironed out they will improve.



    EDIT: thataveragejoe appears to be correct - on closer inspection that is the old one.
  • Reply 311 of 448
    drdoppiodrdoppio Posts: 1,132member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by I am a Zither Zather Zuzz View Post


    It is currently on sale.



    http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listi...&condition=new



    That's not the latest one though. Plus, even if ASUS would start selling it before the rumored iPad 3, the Transformer only had a 1920x1200 screen as shown at CES, while the iPad 3 sports a 2046x1536 screen as repeatedly speculated on rumor sites, so ASUS fail. No one will buy their low-res crap.
  • Reply 312 of 448
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by GTR View Post


    That really great to hear.



    No, really!



    Let's hope your superior experience continues after the next Android update.



    You will be getting another Android update for that model, won't you?



    Of course they will. The one after Apple forces them to remove several features. I wonder how they'll word the update when they tell users certain features have been "disabled".



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Neo42 View Post


    You Apple guys having been declaring Android doom for years now while the platform's momentum has continued regardless. I don't buy the stolen OS droning, whilst understanding that much of Apple's IP was stolen from other companies in the first place. If i were to guess, Android will continue to thrive and companies will continue to sue each other.



    Funny, I don't remember many Apple fans talking about the demise of Android. I have, however, heard countless Android fans always talking about the number of Android devices activated per day and how Android growth will soon result in the death of the "closed" iOS. Or the next iPad killer that'll knock the iPad out of the market. In fact, I've been hearing these for years. After the Galaxy Tab, ASUS Transformer, Playbook, TouchPad, Transformer Prime.....which one is next?



    Which Apple IP was stolen from other companies? I'd really like to see your "list" of said thefts. And where are the lawsuits from these companies? If Apple has stolen as much as you imply then there must be someone out there, after seeing Apple's huge profits, that figures they should get a piece of the pie. Or at least a few quick $$$ from Apple to have them "go away".
  • Reply 313 of 448
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Galeforce View Post


    That is total complete and utter nonsense



    The Nexus is NOT a developer handset, it is a full commercial product. You do not make a million developer handsets.



    The Nexus One was Google's own attempt at alternative marketing and it failed miserably



    The Nexus S was another alternative marketing ploy suggested by BestBuy Europe to Google and manufactured by Samsung using existing Galaxy S parts with only added NFC as Google wanted to get it to market as it was rumoured Apple were going to. It too, failed miserably.



    The Galaxy Nexus is a joint Samsung/Google device intended as a high end with Samsung seeking to gain high profit margins on it from the Google association even though its production costs are probably the same as the SGS2. It is not selling well outside the US because people aren't being fooled



    All this "reference handset" is crap dreamed up by Andy Rubin to brainwash Fandroids



    Its strange so many people don't bother concealing their biasness around here. That aside the nexus is not a developer handset but rather marketed as an alternative for people who do not want to be boiled down with the manufacturer's customizations. In any case it was a valid marketing strategy and they didn't cheat or shortchange anyone for that matter.



    Also over here in Singapore the galaxy nexus ran out of stock the day our telcos rolled it out. I guess everyone is entitled to their own preferences and no one is a fool.
  • Reply 314 of 448
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by hill60 View Post


    You tap the power button to light up the screen, there's an image that you place your finger on and slide over a padlock to unlock the phone.



    That's one of the patents under contention.



    Then there's the other three involved in this suit.



    That sliding to a padlock might just make it different enough. It sometimes takes a slight lil tweak for a judge to rule that there's no infringement.
  • Reply 315 of 448
    chris_cachris_ca Posts: 2,543member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by DrDoppio View Post


    Kindly mind your own business.



    I suggest if you do not want people "in your business" you refrain from posting on publicly accessible forums.
  • Reply 316 of 448
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by DrDoppio View Post


    That's not the latest one though. Plus, even if ASUS would start selling it before the rumored iPad 3, the Transformer only had a 1920x1200 screen as shown at CES, while the iPad 3 sports a 2046x1536 screen as repeatedly speculated on rumor sites, so ASUS fail. No one will buy their low-res crap.



    WUXGA is hardly low res crap. You're mainly talking the difference between 16:10 and 4:3
  • Reply 317 of 448
    gtrgtr Posts: 3,231member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by I am a Zither Zather Zuzz View Post


    The big news for the Transformer family is a new version of the Prime with a high-density display. Yep, Asus has beaten Apple to the punch, at least publicly. The Transformer Prime TF700 features a 10" IPS panel with a 1920x1200 display resolution.



    http://techreport.com/discussions.x/22284



    Here we go again.



    Android reigns supreme with the future release of a tablet that has just one supposedly better feature.



    Haven't we been through all of this with the Xoom, the Touchpad, and the Tab?



    Why don't we wait for a few reviews and see how many they sell before we accuse anybody of beating anybody 'to the punch'.



    Hell, why don't we wait until we all actually see one.
  • Reply 318 of 448
    gtrgtr Posts: 3,231member
    318 posts for this thread so far.



    Impressive!



    Okay, we're all going to use the buddy system here.



    Can everybody form up, check your buddy, confirm that he's been insulted at some point during the thread, then we can all move on to the next one...
  • Reply 319 of 448
    sennensennen Posts: 1,472member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by thataveragejoe View Post


    WUXGA is hardly low res crap. You're mainly talking the difference between 16:10 and 4:3



    It will be quite a large difference, I believe, some 136% more pixels [2048x1535 vs 1920x1200]:



    http://cdn.macrumors.com/article-new...llofpixels.png
  • Reply 320 of 448
    jragostajragosta Posts: 10,473member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by MicroNix View Post


    Name me which OS was syncing settings to a cloud before Android.



    I think it's amazing how the Fandroids can praise Android to high heavens - but apparently can't use Google Search.



    You've gotten the wrong dates. Here's the history:



    Apple's first attempt was iTools - released in 2000. (Note: I'm not claiming that this is the first time that any OS sync'd to the cloud. IIRC, there were third party solutions before that).



    Dot Mac replaced iTools in 2002



    Mobile Me replaced dot Mac in 2008



    And iCloud replaced Mobile Me in 2011.



    So iTools was at least 8 years ahead of Android - and long before Android even existed.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Neo42 View Post


    Seems mostly that we stand on a fine line between "rewarding innovation" and "strong arming your competition with a broken patent system and astronomical financial resources". You're just looking in the direction that favors Apple. And it's ALL about Steve's ego. He instilled it into his business and it lives on in full force, ready to go "thermonuclear." Apple needs to stop wasting resources fighting a stupid battle and get on with what they do best-- creating new and improved products and services.



    And you've obviously never had any intellectual property worth defending.



    Apple has billions of dollars invested in their IP and has every right to defend it. And their court victories indicate that their defense is justified. They haven't won every battle, but it would be surprising if they did. But they've won enough that the courts clearly think that their arguments are at least plausible.



    Your final sentence is absurd. How much damage would it do to Apple's business if they simply let people copy everything they did without making an effort to stop them? They would undoubtedly lose many billions of dollars of business. Not only would it be foolish not to attempt to protect their property, but it would probably be a violation of their fiduciary responsibilities.
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