Cook talked about the halo effect from the iPhone being much stronger than the iPod's ever was. This OSX update is going to drive a HUGE halo effect. The driver of the halo effect won't change, but the back end conversion rate will.
Once the person is driven into an Apple store by the "this device is awesome -- I want to see what else they make", having all these familiar apps and features (messages, reminders and notification center are probably the biggest in this regard) is going to be incredibly compelling.
And "Mountain Lion"? Really? When I first heard it, I thought it was a joke. That makes three Apple OS releases that are basically the same animal (Puma, Panther, Mountain Lion).
Pretty much. What's next? West Texas Mountain Lion?
Wow, looks like I better hurry in upgrading everything to Lion!
Any mention of Core2Duo support?
That's the big question. Apple historically orphans old Macs when a new release comes out. Lion demanded Core 2 Duo support which begins in 2007 for iMacs and Macbooks and were shipped in Mac Minis as late as the first half of last year. So that cannot be criteria if Apple wants to drop support for older machines.
My wife has a Macbook Pro 15" Santa Rosa from mid-2007. That machine began its life on Tiger, moved to Leopard, Snow Leopard and now Lion. After a recent motherboard swap due to the Nvidia graphics card issue, it's basically a young machine again. I was thinking of even dropping an SSD in it since the hard drive is still stock. But I have to re-evaluate that if Apple choses to drop current OS support for it.
So that's a load of features I don't need. But is it going to work faster and more reliably?
Eh, I'm a bit underwhelmed too. Nothing here really enhances my daily use cases. It would be nice if they spent time overhauling iTunes, Safari, Finder, network drive mounting, or Mac OS Server. iTunes badly needs a major update. Hopefully they will at least add Siri.
It would be great if OSX apps could communicate and sync with your iPhone. Want to plan a trip to NY? Do it on your iPad or laptop and have the plan sync with Maps on your phone. They should come up with a way for 3rd party apps to communicate and sync too so your trip can be sent to the TomTom app or Navigon. Siri also needs to be able to communicate with 3rd party apps and this should be done on OSX and iOS all synced between all your devices. Ask Siri to add a reminder on your laptop and it should remind you on your iPhone too.
Pretty soon (usually released bi-annually), BUT, this really seems cool. I'm more excited about iCloud document integration, Messages, Notes, Reminders and Notification Centre. I just wish they'd update the iWork and iLife series to go with it.
It appears as though Apple doesn't want too many conferences at once (Education event in January, iPad 3 in March), they'll probably go through it further at either the iOS Software Event or the WWDC.
Happy I skipped Lion now. Honestly, I thought Apple would just tack on these features to Lion...but a new OS...seems like they might be feeling the heat from MS (since 8 is like the first hype worthy OS in like a decade from them).
But loving how Apple's products are being connected more.
Ask Siri to add a reminder on your laptop and it should remind you on your iPhone too.
Actually, this should work in the reverse. As 10.8 will feature Reminders and Notification Center all tied to your Apple ID via iCloud, if you ask Siri to create a reminder for you on your iPhone, it should also add it to your Reminders on 10.8, no?
A hybrid OSX + iOS...wouldn't Liger have been a more suitable name? Anyway, whatever name it is, these are the features I've been waiting for. Man I love Apple.
Now (or soon at least) that people will be able to have a computer, smartphone, tablet and television that are well integrated there is no justification for purchasing a computer from a different manufacturer.
Apple will now compete with Game Consoles:
A new graphics infrastructure underpinning OpenGL and OpenCL and implementing GLKit, first introduced in iOS 5, making it easier to create OpenGL apps.
Game Center lets users personalize their Mac gaming experience, find new games and challenge friends to play live multiplayer games, whether on a Mac, iPhone, iPad or iPod touch
AirPlay Mirroring is also coming to the Mac, allowing users to wirelessly send a secure 720p video stream of what's on their Mac to an HDTV using Apple TV.
Anyone else believe that this is not only an excellent move for the Mac by capitalizing on Apple's current strengthens but also sets up many features that are desirable in an AppleTV?
And "Mountain Lion"? Really? When I first heard it, I thought it was a joke. That makes three Apple OS releases that are basically the same animal (Puma, Panther, Mountain Lion).
Well, technically a "panther" can refer to many cats, including the leopard or jaguar in Africa and Asia.
Of course, this doesn't really defeat your argument, as each of those has also been used as OS release names
Most likely the new iMac and Macbook will be introduced just before (including free issue new OS) or after the summer holidays, containing newest processors of intel's Ivy bridge platform
NO WAY! All of the Ivy Bridge updates to the Mac line should be out long before 10.8 hits.
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That's the big question. Apple historically orphans old Macs when a new release comes out. Lion demanded Core 2 Duo support which begins in 2007 for iMacs and Macbooks and were shipped in Mac Minis as late as the first half of last year. So that cannot be criteria if Apple wants to drop support for older machines.
But what's the point? There's really nothing physically stopping Core 2 machines from running it.
Personally, I'm a little bothered by how fast this came. It seems to me they'd want to kill as much time as possible before they hit OS XI so that development can properly get done. I still expect a paradigm shifting multitouch desktop computer platform with that, not some jacked up "oh, we added a multitouch screen to the exact same desktop OS everyone's already using" crap.
That's the big question. Apple historically orphans old Macs when a new release comes out. Lion demanded Core 2 Duo support which begins in 2007 for iMacs and Macbooks and were shipped in Mac Minis as late as the first half of last year. So that cannot be criteria if Apple wants to drop support for older machines.
Lion works just fine on my 2006 Core2Duo MacBook 2,1 :b
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Once the person is driven into an Apple store by the "this device is awesome -- I want to see what else they make", having all these familiar apps and features (messages, reminders and notification center are probably the biggest in this regard) is going to be incredibly compelling.
Great news for shareholders.
And "Mountain Lion"? Really? When I first heard it, I thought it was a joke. That makes three Apple OS releases that are basically the same animal (Puma, Panther, Mountain Lion).
Pretty much. What's next? West Texas Mountain Lion?
Wow, looks like I better hurry in upgrading everything to Lion!
Any mention of Core2Duo support?
That's the big question. Apple historically orphans old Macs when a new release comes out. Lion demanded Core 2 Duo support which begins in 2007 for iMacs and Macbooks and were shipped in Mac Minis as late as the first half of last year. So that cannot be criteria if Apple wants to drop support for older machines.
My wife has a Macbook Pro 15" Santa Rosa from mid-2007. That machine began its life on Tiger, moved to Leopard, Snow Leopard and now Lion. After a recent motherboard swap due to the Nvidia graphics card issue, it's basically a young machine again. I was thinking of even dropping an SSD in it since the hard drive is still stock. But I have to re-evaluate that if Apple choses to drop current OS support for it.
Pretty much. What's next? West Texas Mountain Lion?
[S] Well, you can be sure that Apple won't have an East Texas (district) anything [/S]!
Will iBooks be coming to the new system????
I would expect it to be added before release. You have to keep in mind that they have to make a deal with publishers to allow this.
So that's a load of features I don't need. But is it going to work faster and more reliably?
Eh, I'm a bit underwhelmed too. Nothing here really enhances my daily use cases. It would be nice if they spent time overhauling iTunes, Safari, Finder, network drive mounting, or Mac OS Server. iTunes badly needs a major update. Hopefully they will at least add Siri.
It would be great if OSX apps could communicate and sync with your iPhone. Want to plan a trip to NY? Do it on your iPad or laptop and have the plan sync with Maps on your phone. They should come up with a way for 3rd party apps to communicate and sync too so your trip can be sent to the TomTom app or Navigon. Siri also needs to be able to communicate with 3rd party apps and this should be done on OSX and iOS all synced between all your devices. Ask Siri to add a reminder on your laptop and it should remind you on your iPhone too.
It appears as though Apple doesn't want too many conferences at once (Education event in January, iPad 3 in March), they'll probably go through it further at either the iOS Software Event or the WWDC.
Will iBooks be coming to the new system????
Reading books using a Mac doesn't make sense to me, but because of education it'll probably happen eventually.
But Apple does know that the Puma and the Mountain Lion are the same animal, right?
But loving how Apple's products are being connected more.
"OS X ? is going on an iOS-esque one-major-update-per-year development schedule."
Ask Siri to add a reminder on your laptop and it should remind you on your iPhone too.
Actually, this should work in the reverse. As 10.8 will feature Reminders and Notification Center all tied to your Apple ID via iCloud, if you ask Siri to create a reminder for you on your iPhone, it should also add it to your Reminders on 10.8, no?
We have been asking for many of these features! Thank you, Apple!
- iCloud setup of the Mac? Check!
- Documents in the Cloud needs improved (or any at all) integration? Check!
- Notification Center on the Mac? (Watch out, Growl)
- Global sharing integration (Sharing Sheets)? Check!
- Messages on the Mac? Check!
- Notes on the Mac? Check!
- Notes actually becoming useful (supports photos, attachments, bullets and links too)? Check! (Watch out, Evernote)
- Reminders on the Mac? Check!
- AirPlay Mirroring on the Mac? Check!
Now (or soon at least) that people will be able to have a computer, smartphone, tablet and television that are well integrated there is no justification for purchasing a computer from a different manufacturer.Apple will now compete with Game Consoles:
Anyone else believe that this is not only an excellent move for the Mac by capitalizing on Apple's current strengthens but also sets up many features that are desirable in an AppleTV?
And "Mountain Lion"? Really? When I first heard it, I thought it was a joke. That makes three Apple OS releases that are basically the same animal (Puma, Panther, Mountain Lion).
Well, technically a "panther" can refer to many cats, including the leopard or jaguar in Africa and Asia.
Of course, this doesn't really defeat your argument, as each of those has also been used as OS release names
Pretty much. What's next? West Texas Mountain Lion?
How about Cougar, and then Lynx?
Any mention of Core2Duo support?
Why wouldn't there be?
Will iBooks be coming to the new system????
I highly doubt it. HIGHLY.
Most likely the new iMac and Macbook will be introduced just before (including free issue new OS) or after the summer holidays, containing newest processors of intel's Ivy bridge platform
NO WAY! All of the Ivy Bridge updates to the Mac line should be out long before 10.8 hits.
That's the big question. Apple historically orphans old Macs when a new release comes out. Lion demanded Core 2 Duo support which begins in 2007 for iMacs and Macbooks and were shipped in Mac Minis as late as the first half of last year. So that cannot be criteria if Apple wants to drop support for older machines.
But what's the point? There's really nothing physically stopping Core 2 machines from running it.
Personally, I'm a little bothered by how fast this came. It seems to me they'd want to kill as much time as possible before they hit OS XI so that development can properly get done. I still expect a paradigm shifting multitouch desktop computer platform with that, not some jacked up "oh, we added a multitouch screen to the exact same desktop OS everyone's already using" crap.
That's the big question. Apple historically orphans old Macs when a new release comes out. Lion demanded Core 2 Duo support which begins in 2007 for iMacs and Macbooks and were shipped in Mac Minis as late as the first half of last year. So that cannot be criteria if Apple wants to drop support for older machines.
Lion works just fine on my 2006 Core2Duo MacBook 2,1 :b