Most of the people here seem to associate bigger screen with a bigger phone.
But givingi Phone edge-to-edge screen would make it possible to fit 4.6" even keeping the same round corners! Sure the home button as we know it has to go.
Most of the people here seem to associate bigger screen with a bigger phone.
But givingi Phone edge-to-edge screen would make it possible to fit 4.6" even keeping the same round corners! Sure the home button as we know it has to go.
I'm sure this has been discussed, but much over 4" and (for my hand at least) the screen gets hard to operated one-handed. Arc of the thumb sweep and all.
Not sure about the ergonomics of edge to edge either. It's not as severe as a tablet, since you generally aren't gripping a phone in both hands by the edges, but there isn't much more than an 1/8" of space on either side of the current iPhone screen, so you're pretty much talking about making the screen just longer-- which is the worst case scenario for one hand operation.
Most of the people here seem to associate bigger screen with a bigger phone.
But givingi Phone edge-to-edge screen would make it possible to fit 4.6" even keeping the same round corners! Sure the home button as we know it has to go.
This concept can only work if 1) the Home Button is moved to the side or back, and 2) if they still keep the same same pixel density so the 960x640 iPhone apps will still fit on screen.
But lets consider what this does. We still have a very different design that comes with a lot of cons and very few pros. Do customers really want the Home Button on the side? Will Apple move from the squared design to a beveled one that makes this even more difficult in the future? Is putting a button on the back feasible?
Are iPhone sales suffering because there they aren't using enough of the front panel? Would customers want more of the front used or to make the iPhone smaller?
Now I can see a case for a 4" iPhone and I can see how there are people that want the display wider but you have to think about it from Apple's PoV. After all they are the ones making the phone. Do you really see Apple following the vendors who are doing much worse than they are just so they can say "Look, we have 16:9 and 4.6" phones, too." and at the possible expense of destroying their successful iPhone App Store to do it? I don't think so.
PS: MS is trying something different with their Win8 Metro UI. It's very similar to their WinPh UI but it's not the same code base and WinPh, as good as it is, has no market to leverage people getting on-board with it on Win8.
This could be very bad for MS to take a successful and well known interface and force people to start over. If you feel you're being forced to start anew then they might just choose OS X. At Apple has shown that making their UIs familiar is a way to encourage sales. You build off your success, you don't radically change it just because a few say it feels old and stale.
It would be nice to have a bit bigger screen but I do not want anything larger than the current form factor in my pants pocket.
It's amazing that Apple wouldn't provide a f$cking choice! I can buy a 13", 15" or 17" laptop. I'm 6'4" have big hands and wear glasses. I'd like a bigger screen, a much bigger screen, and I'd prefer Apple to provide me with the option to buy one. I'd even pay more for it over a 3.5"one, but give me the option. Many men would like a bigger phone and it's showing up more and more in surveys. Not everyone will like, but it's becoming a preference for a majority of men.
Let me just also say that if Apple manages to get a 4" screen in roughly the same footprint as the current iPhone I'll welcome it, and that doesn't require some stupid "I hated it until Apple did it now I think they invented it" bullshit which some posters seem to rely on so heavily as their go-to straw man.
I don't want a 4.5" or 5" iPhone, although if that's all that's on offer I guess I'd suck it up, since I don't have much interest in Android or WP at the moment (juries still out on WP). Big screen is great for some stuff, but carrying it around with me at all times isn't one of them. I have to shake my head at the 'droidheads sagely informing me of how a 5" phone fits nicely into their "jacket pocket" as if I'm going to be wearing a jacket at all times. I keep my iPhone on my person like a set of keys, and I typically barely know it's there. I like that, I guess because I'm a mindless fanboy.
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Mindless with small hands it seems
Nothing wrong with a bigger screen. I had a Samsung note in my jeans pocket recently and it was just fine.
It's a preference. Apple should offer the maker a choice of screen sizes and they'd displace a lot of larger androids.
It's amazing that Apple wouldn't provide a f$cking choice! I can buy a 13", 15" or 17" laptop. I'm 6'4" have big hands and wear glasses. I'd like a bigger screen, a much bigger screen, and I'd prefer Apple to provide me with the option to buy one. I'd even pay more for it over a 3.5"one, but give me the option. Many men would like a bigger phone and it's showing up more and more in surveys. Not everyone will like, but it's becoming a preference for a majority of men.
1) 94% of the world's population are under 6'2".
2) Using a windowed UI as an argument for windowless UI is silly.
3) Apple does gives you a choice. What you're arguing is that Apple shouldn't have a choice in the matter. Because you want something a company should do it. That's not capitalism, that communism.
I'm interested in an LTE iPhone for two reasons. First, the existing iPhone is fragile. I'd like to see Apple ruggedize it a bit. Second, with LTE it isn't the speed, it's the reception -- 700MHz avoids clashes with towers from other carriers (e.g. Sprint) that I've had trouble with, and it carries farther.
I'm not so sure about a bigger display. Four inches makes it easier to type and text on the phone but anything bigger doesn't fit in my hand. I'd long been hoping that someone in the Android world would produce a phone that measures up in design to the original Droid (3.7 inch display, almost Retina-like clarity, same footprint as iPhone) but the Droid 4, Razr Maxx and Galaxy Nexus simply don't deliver because they're too big and the displays aren't bright and clear enough. If something doesn't happen before my Droid conks out, I'll have to get an iPhone 4S.
Ah, welcome to the other side! See, over here, that stuff just doesn't matter. It's all about a single feature: having the idea put in your head that you want the feature, demanding that feature, not getting that feature, being furious at Apple because you were "entitled" to that feature, finally getting the feature in a future product, and then being furious with Apple because the feature has inherently changed how other features worked or doesn't work very well because you didn't want a different, actually important feature.
Right now it's "a larger screen". Before it was the vague thought of "a better camera", but that has mostly died down now.
These were the same technogeek sites that were whining about the screen and design of the iPhone 4S when it was unveiled, and the mainstream media picked up on this undercurrent of "disappointment" in the 4S and started re-running the story, questioning whether Apple had blown it. Then, a funny thing happened: The buying public, the real majority of people who don't follow tech sites like Slashdot or AppleInsider or what-have-you, started buying the iPhone 4S in droves, making it Apple's best seller. To me, that underscores the opinion bubble that technogeeks like gwmac (and others, not to single that person out) surf in on the Web. Whether we're Apple or Android fans. We think everyone else is like us, and we visit websites that seem to affirm our point of view. I don't rely on polls from these sites to tell me whether people want a bigger screen or not. Those polls just reflect the thoughts of a vocal community, who think their opinions are shared by everyone.
Done and done, seriously though why wouldn't Apple make a larger screen model. The entire industry has moved on except Apple. Sure they will still sell a bagillion of them if they decided to stay with that archaic screen size but I won't be one of those buyers. I can't, not after owning a Samsung Galaxy Note as my business phone and Nokia N9 as my personal phone.
They could easily fit a 4" screen on the current chasis, just need to loose the silly idea that we need a dedicated home button. A gesture or even screen buttons can replace that huge space under the screen and give us a larger screen size. Doesn't anyone feel like the iPhones small rezsolution is starting to feel a little cramped, there's like no white space.
It doesn't matter at the moment I moved on after Apple released the 4S. I didn't want to buy the same phone twice, sure the specs were better but I get bored of a design quickly. plus I really wanted the last Unicorn, the gorgeous and rare white Nokia N9 64GB, my firm also replaced our Blackberry's with the Samsung Galaxy Note. So yea I'm pretty set. However I buy my phones out right instead of getting them with contract as I want them unlocked and it's cheaper in the long wrong, so if Apple releases a 4" I would happily buy one as I really want to preserve the Nokia N9 as a collectors item. Man that phone is perfect in every way, it's a shame you guys in the US will never get to see one up close.
Done and done, seriously though why wouldn't Apple make a larger screen model. The entire industry has moved on except Apple.
Because a larger and larger phone was something that was a normal evolution of tech and not a reaction to Apple's dominance with the normal smartphone design.
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Sure they will still sell a bagillion of them if they decided to stay with that archaic screen size but I won't be one of those buyers.
Now it's an archaic screen size. So not only is Apple incompetent they are old fashioned. You're like one of those people that said the iPad would fail because they use the archaic 4:3 aspect ratio.
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I can't, not after owning a Samsung Galaxy Note as my business phone and Nokia N9 as my personal phone.
So the Galaxy Note is 5.3" and the Nokia N9 is 3.9" or less than the width of the iPhone... yet somehow the iPhone is too small and too big at the same time. Bottom line: there is nothing Apple could ever do to satisfy you... except fail miserably.
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They could easily fit a 4" screen on the current chasis, just need to loose the silly idea that we need a dedicated home button. A gesture or even screen buttons can replace that huge space under the screen and give us a larger screen size.
So having no button to return to a universal starting point is a fault. Got it!
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It doesn't matter at the moment I moved on after Apple released the 4S. I didn't want to buy the same phone twice, sure the specs were better but I get bored of a design quickly.
Because it's perfectly sane and rational to not want a more powerful device if it looks the same¡ What kind of ADHD comment is that?
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I really want to preserve the Nokia N9 as a collectors item. Man that phone is perfect in every way, it's a shame you guys in the US will never get to see one up close.
Funny who you pooh-pooh iOS for its icon grid yet that is exactly what Meego has. It's a poor man's version of iOS except without any refinement, ecosystem or decent App Store but since it's not-Apple it's "perfect."
Because a larger and larger phone was something that was a normal evolution of tech and not a reaction to Apple's dominance with the normal smartphone design.
Now it's an archaic screen size. So not only is Apple incompetent they are old fashioned. You're like one of those people that said the iPad would fail because they use the archaic 4:3 aspect ratio.
So the Galaxy Note is 5.3" and the Nokia N9 is 3.9" or less than the width of the iPhone... yet somehow the iPhone is too small and too big at the same time. Bottom line: there is nothing Apple could ever do to satisfy you... except fail miserably.
So having no button to return to a universal starting point is a fault. Got it!
Because it's perfectly sane and rational to not want a more powerful device if it looks the same¡ What kind of ADHD comment is that?
Funny who you pooh-pooh iOS for its icon grid yet that is exactly what Meego has. It's a poor man's version of iOS except without any refinement, ecosystem or decent App Store but since it's not-Apple it's "perfect."
Fraking trolls!
Yea Fraking trolls, lets get them. Why couldn't you find a picture of the white one? Oh that icon arrangement that you see on that picture looked like that waaaay before Apple came out wth the iOS. I have a Nokia Communicator 9510 that has the same exact icon layout, where did you think Nokia got it from, Apple, uuuh no. Meego is nothing like iOS, there is nothing about that OS that resembles iOS in any way. Your just assuming, you never had the chance to play with one as it's not for sell in the US.
Why wouldn't I want a new phone with a different design. I'm a women, I like pretty things but I'm also a geek and it was only logical that I would buy a phone that was rare, beautifully designed, based off of Debian and is one of the only mobile OS's besides WebOS with true multitasking.
As for the Galaxy Note, well I had no choice, it was given to me by my company but after having one for the last three months. Well, I think I will stick with this screen size and stylus for business. It's the best business phone on the market today just my opinion.
I had a iPhone 4, I liked it a lot but you know everyone has one. So when the iPhone 4S came out I didn't want to spend another year with the same phone, been their done that. I also didn't want an Android phone as I had the Note so I bought the Nokia Lumia 800, love it still use it. However when the white Nokia N9 came out I fell head over heals for it and bought that one. Then I learned Nokia was only making 3,000 of the white version, well then I really had to have the last unicorn.
Apple has been stuck at 3.5" since it's release, so yes it's archaic and they need to get with the times especially with such a small rez. They could easily fit a 4" in the current body size
I buy pretty much every Apple product that comes out, I am not a troll just a tech lover. You are a jerk and a bully, everyone who I've talked to in private also thinks so. You have no friends here you are actually the troll here by attacking people personally and you don't even realize it. I understand you think Apple can't do any wrong but please don't force you ideology onto us. I've said this before to you, Apple is a multi billion dollar company that doesn't care about you, they just want you money. So please stop being their self appointed protector, it's stupid and annoying.
I only talk negative about inanimate objects not people but you are forcing this negativity out of me because I think you get off on it, shame on you. It's just a piece of plastic with wires, get over it.
I'm sure this has been discussed, but much over 4" and (for my hand at least) the screen gets hard to operated one-handed. Arc of the thumb sweep and all.
Not sure about the ergonomics of edge to edge either. It's not as severe as a tablet, since you generally aren't gripping a phone in both hands by the edges, but there isn't much more than an 1/8" of space on either side of the current iPhone screen, so you're pretty much talking about making the screen just longer-- which is the worst case scenario for one hand operation.
Not all apps need a single thumb and not all apps need full/wide screen. But different kinds of apps may happily coexist in a single device.
If I use a dial pad, 4.6" screen would be an overkill so I am fine if it is confined within 3.5" area.
However if I watch hd video, 3.5" is silly.
I would also prefer to browse with as much real estate as possible.
I had a iPhone 4, I liked it a lot but you know everyone has one. So when the iPhone 4S came out I didn't want to spend another year with the same phone, been their done that.
So the usefulness of the device has no baring on your choice but having an external design does and yet you don't understand how such a comment makes your post look shallow and irrational when trying to relay a technical point.
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I buy pretty much every Apple product that comes out, I am not a troll just a tech lover.
I don't buy everything Apple or anyone else releases. I buy what I want when it fits my needs. If Apple were to release products that were less attractive to my needs than other vendors then I would stop purchasing products from Apple. It's that simple.
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You are a jerk and a bully, everyone who I've talked to in private also thinks so. You have no friends here you are actually the troll here by attacking people personally and you don't even realize it.
You're the one who constantly attacks me with ad homeniems. I attack your comments not you. I don't pull punches simply because your claim to be a girl or posting from a hospital bed. If you want some one to coddle you and tell you that your comments make sense when they don't that won't be me. I treat you exactly how I want to be treated if I were to make a series of comments that made no absolutely no sense.
As for friends you clearly don't pay attention.
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I understand you think Apple can't do any wrong but please don't force you ideology onto us. I've said this before to you, Apple is a multi billion dollar company that doesn't care about you, they just want you money. So please stop being their self appointed protector, it's stupid and annoying.
even more proof you don't pay attention.
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I only talk negative about inanimate objects not people but you are forcing this negativity out of me because I think you get off on it, shame on you. It's just a piece of plastic with wires, get over it.
You've called me a bully, jerk and troll who has no friends in this one pos where I have made only general comments or specifically decimated your weal arguments. So you don't even keep track of your posts or you you're calling me an inanimate object. Good one¡
If I let your comments slide you would post more of them. That would reduce the quality of the board. By not treating you like a child by praising all the foolish things you write you will learn to think more thoroughly before you write. This benefits everyone, but especially yourself. I expect the same from every member of this and other forums.
This forum and its posters have taught me valuable skills over the years. I've learned to be more analytical, logical, methodical and systematic when I think about technology. I wouldn't trade that for anything. I appreciate the posters here and you won't find a tech-based forum anywhere that has as many in-depth conversations on as many topics. If you wish to participate you will actually learn something... and be better for it. The choice is up to you.
Wait, so you'd rather have a bunch of black glass on the front of your phone instead of a larger display?
It's probably black glass for a reason. You can't just take a look at the exterior and assume a couple parametric changes can be executed well. Extending the display has consequences. To extend the screen down means you'd have to shrink the home button, with likely ergonomic issues. Also, displays do have thickness, to extend the screen up means thickening the phone to accommodate the back camera, among other things.
I had a iPhone 4, I liked it a lot but you know everyone has one. So when the iPhone 4S came out I didn't want to spend another year with the same phone, been their done that. I also didn't want an Android phone as I had the Note so I bought the Nokia Lumia 800, love it still use it. However when the white Nokia N9 came out I fell head over heals for it and bought that one. Then I learned Nokia was only making 3,000 of the white version, well then I really had to have the last unicorn.
Why do you need to buy a new phone every year?
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I buy pretty much every Apple product that comes out, I am not a troll just a tech lover. You are a jerk and a bully, everyone who I've talked to in private also thinks so. You have no friends here you are actually the troll here by attacking people personally and you don't even realize it.
I think you're making things up. It's easy to string words together, but I've seen no evidence to back up such statements to make them valid. Complaints made against him are rare.
Solip generally makes rational arguments. This response of yours is not a rational response, it looks more like you're making an angry response because you're not convincinb. You might as well say something about his mother or his upbringing to round it out.
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I only talk negative about inanimate objects not people but you are forcing this negativity out of me because I think you get off on it, shame on you. It's just a piece of plastic with wires, get over it.
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I don't want a 4.5" or 5"
Most of the people here seem to associate bigger screen with a bigger phone.
But givingi Phone edge-to-edge screen would make it possible to fit 4.6" even keeping the same round corners! Sure the home button as we know it has to go.
Most of the people here seem to associate bigger screen with a bigger phone.
But givingi Phone edge-to-edge screen would make it possible to fit 4.6" even keeping the same round corners! Sure the home button as we know it has to go.
I'm sure this has been discussed, but much over 4" and (for my hand at least) the screen gets hard to operated one-handed. Arc of the thumb sweep and all.
Not sure about the ergonomics of edge to edge either. It's not as severe as a tablet, since you generally aren't gripping a phone in both hands by the edges, but there isn't much more than an 1/8" of space on either side of the current iPhone screen, so you're pretty much talking about making the screen just longer-- which is the worst case scenario for one hand operation.
Most of the people here seem to associate bigger screen with a bigger phone.
But givingi Phone edge-to-edge screen would make it possible to fit 4.6" even keeping the same round corners! Sure the home button as we know it has to go.
This concept can only work if 1) the Home Button is moved to the side or back, and 2) if they still keep the same same pixel density so the 960x640 iPhone apps will still fit on screen.
But lets consider what this does. We still have a very different design that comes with a lot of cons and very few pros. Do customers really want the Home Button on the side? Will Apple move from the squared design to a beveled one that makes this even more difficult in the future? Is putting a button on the back feasible?
Are iPhone sales suffering because there they aren't using enough of the front panel? Would customers want more of the front used or to make the iPhone smaller?
Now I can see a case for a 4" iPhone and I can see how there are people that want the display wider but you have to think about it from Apple's PoV. After all they are the ones making the phone. Do you really see Apple following the vendors who are doing much worse than they are just so they can say "Look, we have 16:9 and 4.6" phones, too." and at the possible expense of destroying their successful iPhone App Store to do it? I don't think so.
PS: MS is trying something different with their Win8 Metro UI. It's very similar to their WinPh UI but it's not the same code base and WinPh, as good as it is, has no market to leverage people getting on-board with it on Win8.
This could be very bad for MS to take a successful and well known interface and force people to start over. If you feel you're being forced to start anew then they might just choose OS X. At Apple has shown that making their UIs familiar is a way to encourage sales. You build off your success, you don't radically change it just because a few say it feels old and stale.
It would be nice to have a bit bigger screen but I do not want anything larger than the current form factor in my pants pocket.
It's amazing that Apple wouldn't provide a f$cking choice! I can buy a 13", 15" or 17" laptop. I'm 6'4" have big hands and wear glasses. I'd like a bigger screen, a much bigger screen, and I'd prefer Apple to provide me with the option to buy one. I'd even pay more for it over a 3.5"one, but give me the option. Many men would like a bigger phone and it's showing up more and more in surveys. Not everyone will like, but it's becoming a preference for a majority of men.
Let me just also say that if Apple manages to get a 4" screen in roughly the same footprint as the current iPhone I'll welcome it, and that doesn't require some stupid "I hated it until Apple did it now I think they invented it" bullshit which some posters seem to rely on so heavily as their go-to straw man.
I don't want a 4.5" or 5" iPhone, although if that's all that's on offer I guess I'd suck it up, since I don't have much interest in Android or WP at the moment (juries still out on WP). Big screen is great for some stuff, but carrying it around with me at all times isn't one of them. I have to shake my head at the 'droidheads sagely informing me of how a 5" phone fits nicely into their "jacket pocket" as if I'm going to be wearing a jacket at all times. I keep my iPhone on my person like a set of keys, and I typically barely know it's there. I like that, I guess because I'm a mindless fanboy.
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Mindless with small hands it seems
Nothing wrong with a bigger screen. I had a Samsung note in my jeans pocket recently and it was just fine.
It's a preference. Apple should offer the maker a choice of screen sizes and they'd displace a lot of larger androids.
It's amazing that Apple wouldn't provide a f$cking choice! I can buy a 13", 15" or 17" laptop. I'm 6'4" have big hands and wear glasses. I'd like a bigger screen, a much bigger screen, and I'd prefer Apple to provide me with the option to buy one. I'd even pay more for it over a 3.5"one, but give me the option. Many men would like a bigger phone and it's showing up more and more in surveys. Not everyone will like, but it's becoming a preference for a majority of men.
1) 94% of the world's population are under 6'2".
2) Using a windowed UI as an argument for windowless UI is silly.
3) Apple does gives you a choice. What you're arguing is that Apple shouldn't have a choice in the matter. Because you want something a company should do it. That's not capitalism, that communism.
1) 94% of the world's population are over 6'2".
Did you mean to say 94% of the world's population is less than 6' 2"?
I'm not so sure about a bigger display. Four inches makes it easier to type and text on the phone but anything bigger doesn't fit in my hand. I'd long been hoping that someone in the Android world would produce a phone that measures up in design to the original Droid (3.7 inch display, almost Retina-like clarity, same footprint as iPhone) but the Droid 4, Razr Maxx and Galaxy Nexus simply don't deliver because they're too big and the displays aren't bright and clear enough. If something doesn't happen before my Droid conks out, I'll have to get an iPhone 4S.
Ah, welcome to the other side! See, over here, that stuff just doesn't matter. It's all about a single feature: having the idea put in your head that you want the feature, demanding that feature, not getting that feature, being furious at Apple because you were "entitled" to that feature, finally getting the feature in a future product, and then being furious with Apple because the feature has inherently changed how other features worked or doesn't work very well because you didn't want a different, actually important feature.
Right now it's "a larger screen". Before it was the vague thought of "a better camera", but that has mostly died down now.
These were the same technogeek sites that were whining about the screen and design of the iPhone 4S when it was unveiled, and the mainstream media picked up on this undercurrent of "disappointment" in the 4S and started re-running the story, questioning whether Apple had blown it. Then, a funny thing happened: The buying public, the real majority of people who don't follow tech sites like Slashdot or AppleInsider or what-have-you, started buying the iPhone 4S in droves, making it Apple's best seller. To me, that underscores the opinion bubble that technogeeks like gwmac (and others, not to single that person out) surf in on the Web. Whether we're Apple or Android fans. We think everyone else is like us, and we visit websites that seem to affirm our point of view. I don't rely on polls from these sites to tell me whether people want a bigger screen or not. Those polls just reflect the thoughts of a vocal community, who think their opinions are shared by everyone.
Those polls just reflect the thoughts of a vocal community, who think their opinions are shared by everyone.
Hear hear.
Enjoy your future android phone.
Done and done, seriously though why wouldn't Apple make a larger screen model. The entire industry has moved on except Apple. Sure they will still sell a bagillion of them if they decided to stay with that archaic screen size but I won't be one of those buyers. I can't, not after owning a Samsung Galaxy Note as my business phone and Nokia N9 as my personal phone.
They could easily fit a 4" screen on the current chasis, just need to loose the silly idea that we need a dedicated home button. A gesture or even screen buttons can replace that huge space under the screen and give us a larger screen size. Doesn't anyone feel like the iPhones small rezsolution is starting to feel a little cramped, there's like no white space.
It doesn't matter at the moment I moved on after Apple released the 4S. I didn't want to buy the same phone twice, sure the specs were better but I get bored of a design quickly. plus I really wanted the last Unicorn, the gorgeous and rare white Nokia N9 64GB, my firm also replaced our Blackberry's with the Samsung Galaxy Note. So yea I'm pretty set. However I buy my phones out right instead of getting them with contract as I want them unlocked and it's cheaper in the long wrong, so if Apple releases a 4" I would happily buy one as I really want to preserve the Nokia N9 as a collectors item. Man that phone is perfect in every way, it's a shame you guys in the US will never get to see one up close.
Done and done, seriously though why wouldn't Apple make a larger screen model. The entire industry has moved on except Apple.
Because a larger and larger phone was something that was a normal evolution of tech and not a reaction to Apple's dominance with the normal smartphone design.
Sure they will still sell a bagillion of them if they decided to stay with that archaic screen size but I won't be one of those buyers.
Now it's an archaic screen size. So not only is Apple incompetent they are old fashioned. You're like one of those people that said the iPad would fail because they use the archaic 4:3 aspect ratio.
I can't, not after owning a Samsung Galaxy Note as my business phone and Nokia N9 as my personal phone.
So the Galaxy Note is 5.3" and the Nokia N9 is 3.9" or less than the width of the iPhone... yet somehow the iPhone is too small and too big at the same time. Bottom line: there is nothing Apple could ever do to satisfy you... except fail miserably.
They could easily fit a 4" screen on the current chasis, just need to loose the silly idea that we need a dedicated home button. A gesture or even screen buttons can replace that huge space under the screen and give us a larger screen size.
So having no button to return to a universal starting point is a fault. Got it!
It doesn't matter at the moment I moved on after Apple released the 4S. I didn't want to buy the same phone twice, sure the specs were better but I get bored of a design quickly.
Because it's perfectly sane and rational to not want a more powerful device if it looks the same¡ What kind of ADHD comment is that?
I really want to preserve the Nokia N9 as a collectors item. Man that phone is perfect in every way, it's a shame you guys in the US will never get to see one up close.
Funny who you pooh-pooh iOS for its icon grid yet that is exactly what Meego has. It's a poor man's version of iOS except without any refinement, ecosystem or decent App Store but since it's not-Apple it's "perfect." Fraking trolls!
Because a larger and larger phone was something that was a normal evolution of tech and not a reaction to Apple's dominance with the normal smartphone design.
Now it's an archaic screen size. So not only is Apple incompetent they are old fashioned. You're like one of those people that said the iPad would fail because they use the archaic 4:3 aspect ratio.
So the Galaxy Note is 5.3" and the Nokia N9 is 3.9" or less than the width of the iPhone... yet somehow the iPhone is too small and too big at the same time. Bottom line: there is nothing Apple could ever do to satisfy you... except fail miserably.
So having no button to return to a universal starting point is a fault. Got it!
Because it's perfectly sane and rational to not want a more powerful device if it looks the same¡ What kind of ADHD comment is that?
Funny who you pooh-pooh iOS for its icon grid yet that is exactly what Meego has. It's a poor man's version of iOS except without any refinement, ecosystem or decent App Store but since it's not-Apple it's "perfect." Fraking trolls!
Yea Fraking trolls, lets get them. Why couldn't you find a picture of the white one? Oh that icon arrangement that you see on that picture looked like that waaaay before Apple came out wth the iOS. I have a Nokia Communicator 9510 that has the same exact icon layout, where did you think Nokia got it from, Apple, uuuh no. Meego is nothing like iOS, there is nothing about that OS that resembles iOS in any way. Your just assuming, you never had the chance to play with one as it's not for sell in the US.
Why wouldn't I want a new phone with a different design. I'm a women, I like pretty things but I'm also a geek and it was only logical that I would buy a phone that was rare, beautifully designed, based off of Debian and is one of the only mobile OS's besides WebOS with true multitasking.
As for the Galaxy Note, well I had no choice, it was given to me by my company but after having one for the last three months. Well, I think I will stick with this screen size and stylus for business. It's the best business phone on the market today just my opinion.
I had a iPhone 4, I liked it a lot but you know everyone has one. So when the iPhone 4S came out I didn't want to spend another year with the same phone, been their done that. I also didn't want an Android phone as I had the Note so I bought the Nokia Lumia 800, love it still use it. However when the white Nokia N9 came out I fell head over heals for it and bought that one. Then I learned Nokia was only making 3,000 of the white version, well then I really had to have the last unicorn.
Apple has been stuck at 3.5" since it's release, so yes it's archaic and they need to get with the times especially with such a small rez. They could easily fit a 4" in the current body size
I buy pretty much every Apple product that comes out, I am not a troll just a tech lover. You are a jerk and a bully, everyone who I've talked to in private also thinks so. You have no friends here you are actually the troll here by attacking people personally and you don't even realize it. I understand you think Apple can't do any wrong but please don't force you ideology onto us. I've said this before to you, Apple is a multi billion dollar company that doesn't care about you, they just want you money. So please stop being their self appointed protector, it's stupid and annoying.
I only talk negative about inanimate objects not people but you are forcing this negativity out of me because I think you get off on it, shame on you. It's just a piece of plastic with wires, get over it.
I'm sure this has been discussed, but much over 4" and (for my hand at least) the screen gets hard to operated one-handed. Arc of the thumb sweep and all.
Not sure about the ergonomics of edge to edge either. It's not as severe as a tablet, since you generally aren't gripping a phone in both hands by the edges, but there isn't much more than an 1/8" of space on either side of the current iPhone screen, so you're pretty much talking about making the screen just longer-- which is the worst case scenario for one hand operation.
Not all apps need a single thumb and not all apps need full/wide screen. But different kinds of apps may happily coexist in a single device.
If I use a dial pad, 4.6" screen would be an overkill so I am fine if it is confined within 3.5" area.
However if I watch hd video, 3.5" is silly.
I would also prefer to browse with as much real estate as possible.
Android phones gain height mostly when the screen grows.
remember he left this world, the day after the 4s launch.
Done and done, seriously though why wouldn't Apple make a larger screen model. The entire industry has moved on except Apple.
Fortunately much of the consumer base hasn't moved on, which is what actually matters.
They could easily fit a 4" screen on the current chasis, just need to loose the silly idea that we need a dedicated home button.
See, this is where you're completely wrong and will always be.
I didn't want to buy the same phone twice,
See, this is why your opinion is completely invalid.
I don't think people realize how much width the 3:2 aspect ratio screen on the iPhone gains when you make it bigger.
They don't care about that, though. They want Apple to move to 16:9 for whatever ludicrous reason.
I had a iPhone 4, I liked it a lot but you know everyone has one. So when the iPhone 4S came out I didn't want to spend another year with the same phone, been their done that.
So the usefulness of the device has no baring on your choice but having an external design does and yet you don't understand how such a comment makes your post look shallow and irrational when trying to relay a technical point.
I buy pretty much every Apple product that comes out, I am not a troll just a tech lover.
I don't buy everything Apple or anyone else releases. I buy what I want when it fits my needs. If Apple were to release products that were less attractive to my needs than other vendors then I would stop purchasing products from Apple. It's that simple.
You are a jerk and a bully, everyone who I've talked to in private also thinks so. You have no friends here you are actually the troll here by attacking people personally and you don't even realize it.
You're the one who constantly attacks me with ad homeniems. I attack your comments not you. I don't pull punches simply because your claim to be a girl or posting from a hospital bed. If you want some one to coddle you and tell you that your comments make sense when they don't that won't be me. I treat you exactly how I want to be treated if I were to make a series of comments that made no absolutely no sense.
As for friends you clearly don't pay attention.
I understand you think Apple can't do any wrong but please don't force you ideology onto us. I've said this before to you, Apple is a multi billion dollar company that doesn't care about you, they just want you money. So please stop being their self appointed protector, it's stupid and annoying.
even more proof you don't pay attention.
I only talk negative about inanimate objects not people but you are forcing this negativity out of me because I think you get off on it, shame on you. It's just a piece of plastic with wires, get over it.
You've called me a bully, jerk and troll who has no friends in this one pos where I have made only general comments or specifically decimated your weal arguments. So you don't even keep track of your posts or you you're calling me an inanimate object. Good one¡
If I let your comments slide you would post more of them. That would reduce the quality of the board. By not treating you like a child by praising all the foolish things you write you will learn to think more thoroughly before you write. This benefits everyone, but especially yourself. I expect the same from every member of this and other forums.
This forum and its posters have taught me valuable skills over the years. I've learned to be more analytical, logical, methodical and systematic when I think about technology. I wouldn't trade that for anything. I appreciate the posters here and you won't find a tech-based forum anywhere that has as many in-depth conversations on as many topics. If you wish to participate you will actually learn something... and be better for it. The choice is up to you.
Wait, so you'd rather have a bunch of black glass on the front of your phone instead of a larger display?
It's probably black glass for a reason. You can't just take a look at the exterior and assume a couple parametric changes can be executed well. Extending the display has consequences. To extend the screen down means you'd have to shrink the home button, with likely ergonomic issues. Also, displays do have thickness, to extend the screen up means thickening the phone to accommodate the back camera, among other things.
I had a iPhone 4, I liked it a lot but you know everyone has one. So when the iPhone 4S came out I didn't want to spend another year with the same phone, been their done that. I also didn't want an Android phone as I had the Note so I bought the Nokia Lumia 800, love it still use it. However when the white Nokia N9 came out I fell head over heals for it and bought that one. Then I learned Nokia was only making 3,000 of the white version, well then I really had to have the last unicorn.
Why do you need to buy a new phone every year?
I buy pretty much every Apple product that comes out, I am not a troll just a tech lover. You are a jerk and a bully, everyone who I've talked to in private also thinks so. You have no friends here you are actually the troll here by attacking people personally and you don't even realize it.
I think you're making things up. It's easy to string words together, but I've seen no evidence to back up such statements to make them valid. Complaints made against him are rare.
Solip generally makes rational arguments. This response of yours is not a rational response, it looks more like you're making an angry response because you're not convincinb. You might as well say something about his mother or his upbringing to round it out.
I only talk negative about inanimate objects not people but you are forcing this negativity out of me because I think you get off on it, shame on you. It's just a piece of plastic with wires, get over it.
Don't blame other people for your responses.