It looks like a good evolution for iPhone size. Bigger screen without much work for developers for their apps to work. Camera above the speaker also works because of the new size. I think the front is good. It's the back that I'm worrying about. If there's hybrid of metal and glass on the edges.... ahhh....
As opposed to saying "I have no comment on that matter"? What's he supposed to do?
The more these rumors come out, the more I get a little more excited to see what Apple is going to bring to the table. I can only hope the longer screen would allow for gestures... that is one thing I would LOVE the iPhone to have- using the home button to get out of an app or double tapping for multi-tasking isn't nearly as intuitive as the iPad gestures. Gestures would be game changing in only a way apple could do it- simple, yet brilliant.
As opposed to saying "I have no comment on that matter"? What's he supposed to do?
Are you pretending that a laugh is not an order of magnitude different a response than a simple disclaimer?
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I can only hope the longer screen would allow for gestures... that is one thing I would LOVE the iPhone to have- using the home button to get out of an app or double tapping for multi-tasking isn't nearly as intuitive as the iPad gestures. Gestures would be game changing in only a way apple could do it- simple, yet brilliant.
I don't understand what would prevent them on the current iPhone. Indeed, jailbreakers have them working on current iPhones. Size/shape/length is not a factor.
Folks, it has already been revealed that Apple makes many prototype design of various products with various IDs. They use them to decide on which is the best ID all the way around. This could be just another iteration in that process. It means nothing to what the final product will be in the end.
BTW, Apple is not the only company who does this, we just hear about Apples various ID's because people are interested in hearing about it. If you walk into any prototyping design or manufacturing shops you will see various ID concepts form other companies. those do not leak out since no one cares about them.
4" in diameter. So we are getting a round iPhone now?
Actually, I was hoping for a spherical phone. It could be like one of this stress balls (the kind that is silicone and feels like a breast). Although actually only spherical it could project a much larger image around its surface with key presses being detect by breaking the barrier between projected image and the surface. Haptic feedback could be done in one of several ways but a sort of gooseflesh feeling immediately under the finger -- or a cooing sound. Ah, I stray, if Apple did do something similar to this I predict numerous large patents that would stand firmly if tested in the courts. Lets see Samsung copy that!
Spherical, actually! All those 3D GUI patents Apple has have finally come to fruition.
They can call it the iPhone 6S. S for "sphere" this time.
Ah, you beat me. Hats of to you me lord.
I started my reply apparently at the same time as you -- only I got called to an 'emergency' meeting and so did not finish or post till a couple hours later.
I do like the fact that several of us immediately grasp how a spherical display/interface could have so many uses, its so natural and feels good in the hand as well as presenting potentially incredible models. ;-)
Folks, it has already been revealed that Apple makes many prototype design of various products with various IDs. They use them to decide on which is the best ID all the way around. This could be just another iteration in that process. It means nothing to what the final product will be in the end. BTW, Apple is not the only company who does this, we just hear about Apples various ID's because people are interested in hearing about it. If you walk into any prototyping design or manufacturing shops you will see various ID concepts form other companies. those do not leak out since no one cares about them.
So we should all refrain from commenting on anything until the real thing is released. Gotcha.
The trouble is ... that other than the (to some) intense ugliness, there isn't anything about this new iPhone design that can be pointed to as obviously fake.
In fact it quite neatly meshes every rumour, leak and suspected phone part together into a whole. That alone makes it suspicious, but there isn't (yet) anything that I can see that would argue against this being the next iPhone.
But wouldn't manufactured rumors match to previous rumors in order to take on an air of verisimilitude ? If you repeat a story enough times, people will believe it.
The recent leaks seem a bit off for Apple. They basically show a slightly thinner iPhone 4 shape with a 16:9 aspect ratio and an underwhelming case design. I'm not entirely convinced these are real since I'm expecting something more radical from Apple to stay competitive with companies like Samsung. So this leads me to a couple of theories which admittedly may be a bit out there:
First: this is a controlled leak from Apple, of a fake design. Tim Cook himself said Apple is 'doubling down' on secrecy, which I'd imagine would already be in place. Part of such a strategy could include deliberately fake leaks showing half-baked case designs. This could be one of them.
Second: this is one of many prototype designs being tested in the field and not the final. Apple has working plan B's and perhaps even C's when developing a product, and this could be one of the lesser designs.
Third: This is a case that houses a more radical redesign. I'd imagine that the front glass panel may be real (I do see the logic in a 16:9 iPhone) but the case itself is a cover for a thinner and more radical design.
We have little idea what kind of technologies Apple will be cramming into the new phone that would affect design, so speculating on the final look is taking vague, uneducated guesses at best. But if it were up to me, I'd agressivley push for a radically thin case, possibly with tapered instead of square edges.
But that's just me. I could be way off since this is just speculation in a vacuum.
<vc><strong>A picture purporting to show the design schematic for Apple's next-generation iPhone lends even more support to rumors that the device will be slightly taller with a larger display.</strong>
The images published <a href="http://ilab.cc/news/5740.html">on Wednesday</a> by iPhone repair firm iLab Factory (<a href="http://www.macotakara.jp/blog/index.php?ID=16717">via</a> <em>Macotakara</em>) show what appears to be a slightly taller iPhone design, accommodating a larger screen that has been rumored to be 4 inches diagonally. The design also appears to have moved the forward-facing FaceTime camera to the center of the device, just above the earpiece.
The schematics appear to match up with images that surfaced a day earlier, showing an elongated <a href="http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/12/05/29/alleged_next_gen_iphone_part_shows_aluminum_back_smaller_dock_connector.html">back panel</a> claimed to be from Apple's next iPhone. That part shows an aluminum back with what look to be like small glass ends on the top and bottom of the handset.
The back panel that was pictured online on Tuesday is one solid piece connected to the sides. Pictures of the bottom of the panel also show space for a smaller dock connector, and a headphone jack that has been moved from the top to the bottom of the device.
However, the font on the product name "iPhone" on the back of the alleged prototype part also appears suspicious, and does not identically match Apple's existing logo, which has suggested to some that the part could be an elaborate counterfeit.
<div align="center"><img src="http://photos.appleinsidercdn.com/schematic-120530.jpg" border="0" width="640" height="382" alt="Schematic" /></div>
The alleged iPhone schematic that surfaced Wednesday is just the latest in a line of evidence that the next iPhone could have a slightly larger screen. Numerous reports earlier this month, including one from <em>The Wall Street Journal</em>, claimed that Apple <a href="http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/12/05/16/apple_ordering_screens_sized_at_least_4_for_next_iphone___wsj.html">has been ordering</a> larger screens that measure 4 inches diagonally for its next iPhone.
The sixth-generation iPhone is expected to be a major departure from the largely identical external appearances of the iPhone 4S and the iPhone 4. Rumors have pegged the next iPhone to launch this fall, about one year after the debut of the iPhone 4S.
I don't think the front camera is on top of earpiece. From what I see in that picture it's beside the earpiece. Look closely there's a dot that look like hole on the right side of earpiece.
I don't think the front camera is on top of earpiece. From what I see in that picture it's beside the earpiece. Look closely there's a dot that look like hole on the right side of earpiece.
Since Apple is already using celebrities to shill for Siri, start with Sharon Stone. Not only will you have a tangential reference harkening back to her performance in the film "Sphere", but a proven model from which to work as well.
Since Apple is already using celebrities to shill for Siri, start with Sharon Stone. Not only will you have a tangential reference harkening back to her performance in the film "Sphere", but a proven model from which to work as well.
Let's cross our legs, eh, fingers, that it will happen.
Sometimes, I wonder if Apple is using the rumor-verse as market study, or as a way to bring the masses around to anticipate, accept and embrace a significant change. Imagine the kerfuffle if a change in size is dropped on our lap only at launch.
I'd prefer it to be wider and taller, not just taller. Being taller is just ugly IMO. We won't know until September anyways when they usually have their iPod event, which as of last year is probably now defunct and is now the iPhone event.
I agree, if we could only have wider or taller, I would choose wider not taller. Taller is just ugly.
We should get clues at WWDC in a couple of weeks. They can not introduce a new Aspect Ratio iPhone this year without preparing the developers well in advance, so if they are doing it we will find out at WWDC. We may not get any details about the phone but developers will be told they have to prepare for a different Aspect Ratio.
I would not be surprised if all these leaks are set up by Apple to throw every body off and get them following a stupid idea and then they will actually introduce something completely different. Tim Cook said they were really cracking down on product leaks. Last year we had all kinds of leaks about a tear shaped 4" screen iPhone, we even had covers, parts and drawings and it all turned out to be wrong.
If you don't believe the previous poster(s), just Google or Wiki for "Panavision". That's been around (at a 2.20:1 or wider) form factor since the 1950s. 16:9 (1.78:1) was never anything but a compromise.
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It looks like a good evolution for iPhone size. Bigger screen without much work for developers for their apps to work. Camera above the speaker also works because of the new size. I think the front is good. It's the back that I'm worrying about. If there's hybrid of metal and glass on the edges.... ahhh....
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Eventually we'll have 2.39:1 iPhones because movies aren't released in 16:9 anymore. It's too mainstream for Hollywood.
No. Seriously. That's the actual reason for 2.39:1. Televisions were 4:3, so theaters moved to 16:9. Now that TVs are 16:9, movies are 2.39:1.
2.39:1 has been around since the 1970s. It's not some new conspiracy against 16:9 TVs.
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2.39:1 has been around since the 1970s. It's not some new conspiracy against 16:9 TVs.
O~kay…
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Which Tim Cook laughed at.
As opposed to saying "I have no comment on that matter"? What's he supposed to do?
The more these rumors come out, the more I get a little more excited to see what Apple is going to bring to the table. I can only hope the longer screen would allow for gestures... that is one thing I would LOVE the iPhone to have- using the home button to get out of an app or double tapping for multi-tasking isn't nearly as intuitive as the iPad gestures. Gestures would be game changing in only a way apple could do it- simple, yet brilliant.
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As opposed to saying "I have no comment on that matter"? What's he supposed to do?
Are you pretending that a laugh is not an order of magnitude different a response than a simple disclaimer?
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I can only hope the longer screen would allow for gestures... that is one thing I would LOVE the iPhone to have- using the home button to get out of an app or double tapping for multi-tasking isn't nearly as intuitive as the iPad gestures. Gestures would be game changing in only a way apple could do it- simple, yet brilliant.
I don't understand what would prevent them on the current iPhone. Indeed, jailbreakers have them working on current iPhones. Size/shape/length is not a factor.
BTW, Apple is not the only company who does this, we just hear about Apples various ID's because people are interested in hearing about it. If you walk into any prototyping design or manufacturing shops you will see various ID concepts form other companies. those do not leak out since no one cares about them.
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4" in diameter. So we are getting a round iPhone now?
Actually, I was hoping for a spherical phone. It could be like one of this stress balls (the kind that is silicone and feels like a breast). Although actually only spherical it could project a much larger image around its surface with key presses being detect by breaking the barrier between projected image and the surface. Haptic feedback could be done in one of several ways but a sort of gooseflesh feeling immediately under the finger -- or a cooing sound. Ah, I stray, if Apple did do something similar to this I predict numerous large patents that would stand firmly if tested in the courts. Lets see Samsung copy that!
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
Spherical, actually! All those 3D GUI patents Apple has have finally come to fruition.
They can call it the iPhone 6S. S for "sphere" this time.
Ah, you beat me. Hats of to you me lord.
I started my reply apparently at the same time as you -- only I got called to an 'emergency' meeting and so did not finish or post till a couple hours later.
I do like the fact that several of us immediately grasp how a spherical display/interface could have so many uses, its so natural and feels good in the hand as well as presenting potentially incredible models. ;-)
Now about a few tiny implementation details… LOL
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Folks, it has already been revealed that Apple makes many prototype design of various products with various IDs. They use them to decide on which is the best ID all the way around. This could be just another iteration in that process. It means nothing to what the final product will be in the end. BTW, Apple is not the only company who does this, we just hear about Apples various ID's because people are interested in hearing about it. If you walk into any prototyping design or manufacturing shops you will see various ID concepts form other companies. those do not leak out since no one cares about them.
So we should all refrain from commenting on anything until the real thing is released. Gotcha.
But wouldn't manufactured rumors match to previous rumors in order to take on an air of verisimilitude ? If you repeat a story enough times, people will believe it.
First: this is a controlled leak from Apple, of a fake design. Tim Cook himself said Apple is 'doubling down' on secrecy, which I'd imagine would already be in place. Part of such a strategy could include deliberately fake leaks showing half-baked case designs. This could be one of them.
Second: this is one of many prototype designs being tested in the field and not the final. Apple has working plan B's and perhaps even C's when developing a product, and this could be one of the lesser designs.
Third: This is a case that houses a more radical redesign. I'd imagine that the front glass panel may be real (I do see the logic in a 16:9 iPhone) but the case itself is a cover for a thinner and more radical design.
We have little idea what kind of technologies Apple will be cramming into the new phone that would affect design, so speculating on the final look is taking vague, uneducated guesses at best. But if it were up to me, I'd agressivley push for a radically thin case, possibly with tapered instead of square edges.
But that's just me. I could be way off since this is just speculation in a vacuum.
I don't think the front camera is on top of earpiece. From what I see in that picture it's beside the earpiece. Look closely there's a dot that look like hole on the right side of earpiece.
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I don't think the front camera is on top of earpiece. From what I see in that picture it's beside the earpiece. Look closely there's a dot that look like hole on the right side of earpiece.
And from the pictures we have, it's on top…
Since Apple is already using celebrities to shill for Siri, start with Sharon Stone. Not only will you have a tangential reference harkening back to her performance in the film "Sphere", but a proven model from which to work as well.
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Originally Posted by CityGuide
Since Apple is already using celebrities to shill for Siri, start with Sharon Stone. Not only will you have a tangential reference harkening back to her performance in the film "Sphere", but a proven model from which to work as well.
Let's cross our legs, eh, fingers, that it will happen.
Sometimes, I wonder if Apple is using the rumor-verse as market study, or as a way to bring the masses around to anticipate, accept and embrace a significant change. Imagine the kerfuffle if a change in size is dropped on our lap only at launch.
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Imagine the kerfuffle if a change in size is dropped on our lap only at launch.
No one had a problem with the iPhone 4 being dropped in our laps.
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I'd prefer it to be wider and taller, not just taller. Being taller is just ugly IMO. We won't know until September anyways when they usually have their iPod event, which as of last year is probably now defunct and is now the iPhone event.
I agree, if we could only have wider or taller, I would choose wider not taller. Taller is just ugly.
We should get clues at WWDC in a couple of weeks. They can not introduce a new Aspect Ratio iPhone this year without preparing the developers well in advance, so if they are doing it we will find out at WWDC. We may not get any details about the phone but developers will be told they have to prepare for a different Aspect Ratio.
I would not be surprised if all these leaks are set up by Apple to throw every body off and get them following a stupid idea and then they will actually introduce something completely different. Tim Cook said they were really cracking down on product leaks. Last year we had all kinds of leaks about a tear shaped 4" screen iPhone, we even had covers, parts and drawings and it all turned out to be wrong.
Tallest Skill:
If you don't believe the previous poster(s), just Google or Wiki for "Panavision". That's been around (at a 2.20:1 or wider) form factor since the 1950s. 16:9 (1.78:1) was never anything but a compromise.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panavision
I couldnt agree more!!!!
If Apple releases an ugly POS like this I am officially signing off the bandwagon! This thing is SH1T ugly enough to be considered a android!!!
Apple makes beautiful products. This would be an atrocity!!!
And yes it makes total sense that Apple would throw off potentially real leaks by mixing in some out there prototype leaks.