Symbian had pretty much reached the end of the road a few years ago, it just couldn't keep up with what consumers were being given with iOS and Android.
Can you please provide a list of these things they consumers were given with iOS and Android that Symbian was missing?
He is a shameless, narcassistic, self promoter with a heavy bias against anything to do with Elop.
PS. Poor form to direct people to his longest, most rambling blog post ever.
IMO he's certainly an industry "insider", but agree with you that he doesn't shy from self-promotion. Get past the quick assumption that it's "all about Tomi" and I disagree that it's "poor form" to link to it. I read his post in it's entirety and found his points to be worth consideration. I assume you also read it. What did he have to say that you specifically disagreed with?
I remembered it mainly because it annoyed me that they would even attempt product placement in a Trek film. How many brands are we exposed to on a daily basis that have been around more than 100 years? Coke? A variety of banks?
Kikkoman started as a group of family owned companies in 1603.
Plymouth Gin Distillery has operated since 1793. (And its building, formerly a Dominican monastery, was built in 1431.)
Nintendo was founded as a playing card manufacturer in 1889.
"I could perhaps like others have astonished you with strange improbable tales; but I rather chose to relate plain matter of fact in the simplest manner and style; because my principal design was to inform you, and not to amuse you. —Jonathan Swift, Gulliver’s Travels"
BALSILLIE IS the first to admit some will find the iPhone's look appealing, but he says he's doubtful the device will have much of an impact on RIM's overall sales. For one thing, he says, the iPhone will hold little appeal for RIM's core business market and its need for secure information technology systems, which RIM has been providing for years with its corporate BlackBerry email servers.
He is also intensely critical of what appears to be an effort by Apple to wrest control of the customer experience in the consumer market. For example, the iPhone is being sold through Apple's own stores, instead of strictly through AT&T Inc., which signed an exclusive U.S. deal with the computer maker. The phone is free of AT&T's logo and software and is tied closely to Apple's iTunes music store, which is where subscribers will need to go to activate their phones and browse rate plans.
"It's a dangerous strategy," says Balsillie. "It's a tremendous amount of control. And the more control of the platform that goes out of the carrier, the more they shift into a commodity pipe."
ThIs is great news! Although I feel sorry for the bottom of the pile workers I have no sympathy for those arrogant execs who really thought they had a monopoly on innovation and great Products. Don't get me wrong, I remember the pre email phones from Nokia and they were the best for their time. I proudly owned one of these devices. Then things started to change - and it took me a day from work to spend at a store to get email to work on the next Nokia phone model. Two store assistants couldn't work it out either. That was the beginning of the end for Nokia. Apple came with a great product that was powerful and easy to use. This is what we call as creative destruction - old and no longer innovating firms decline while new products from more creative firms grow. I recall hearing a disgruntled business professor ( because is Finnish and couldn't fathom that Nokia was in decline at the cost of what he described as 'badly made' rubbish from Apple. And this professor specialized in innovation! He couldn't stand that the Finnish national champion was in decline. His name is Goran Roos and he must be weeping now as I sit here rejoicing that this basketcase of 21st century smartphone standards is going down!
Troll? Oh, that's right, this is appleinsider where everyone is called a troll for asking a question
Can you provide some decent links, the first one with 20 missing features, the first 10 were social network things, that isn't an OS feature, in fact most were application features. The major missing feature is way down at number 20, and let's not forgot that Apple has only recently added this themselves, but then again.
Troll? Oh, that's right, this is appleinsider where everyone is called a troll for asking a question
Can you provide some decent links, the first one with 20 missing features, the first 10 were social network things, that isn't an OS feature, in fact most were application features. The major missing feature is way down at number 20, and let's not forgot that Apple has only recently added this themselves, but then again.
ha ha ha. Typical appleinsider response, if you are willing to make a claim, at least have the balls to back it up. Any time you are ready you are welcome to post the other 999 missing features from WP7.5
Don't worry, I'm sure you'll get to use that troll comment on tonnes of other people that prove you wrong
Look fellas, Nokia is s#it, that's all you need to know. Troll or no trolls, Nokia is S#it.
Nokia is no longer successful and they have been poorly managed and had other issues but they are not shit. The Lumia is a great quality and stylish device. If more Android-based phones followed Nokia's lead perhaps Android phones could actually do a little better against the iPhone's success.
I don't agree, I still think Nokia is #hit. I'd rather have an android phone from samsung than a nokia and I don't (want) either over my current iphone
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So iOS, Android and WP are all missing tons of features that S40 has then?
Can you please provide a list of these things they consumers were given with iOS and Android that Symbian was missing?
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Originally Posted by jfanning
So you would need to google it? Meaning you don't know, so why claim something you don't know?
I am saying why do i need to copy and paste information you know you could Google and find yourself. Obvious troll is obvious.
Here you go troll: http://bit.ly/ObBYKK
http://communities-dominate.blogs.com/brands/2012/07/the-sun-tzu-of-nokisoftian-microkia-mirror-mirror-on-the-wall-whose-the-baddest-of-them-all-waterloo.html
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Originally Posted by Gatorguy
Anyone interested in an insider's view of Elop and why.....
Tomi Ahonen is NOT a Nokia 'insider'!
He is a shameless, narcassistic, self promoter with a heavy bias against anything to do with Elop.
PS. Poor form to direct people to his longest, most rambling blog post ever.
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Originally Posted by piot
He is a shameless, narcassistic, self promoter with a heavy bias against anything to do with Elop.
PS. Poor form to direct people to his longest, most rambling blog post ever.
IMO he's certainly an industry "insider", but agree with you that he doesn't shy from self-promotion. Get past the quick assumption that it's "all about Tomi" and I disagree that it's "poor form" to link to it. I read his post in it's entirety and found his points to be worth consideration. I assume you also read it. What did he have to say that you specifically disagreed with?
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Originally Posted by SpamSandwich
I remembered it mainly because it annoyed me that they would even attempt product placement in a Trek film. How many brands are we exposed to on a daily basis that have been around more than 100 years? Coke? A variety of banks?
Kikkoman started as a group of family owned companies in 1603.
Plymouth Gin Distillery has operated since 1793. (And its building, formerly a Dominican monastery, was built in 1431.)
Nintendo was founded as a playing card manufacturer in 1889.
with strange improbable tales; but I rather chose
to relate plain matter of fact in the simplest
manner and style; because my principal design
was to inform you, and not to amuse you.
—Jonathan Swift,
Gulliver’s Travels"
I know. Shouldn't Nokia ask their R&D department fot their money back?!
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Originally Posted by Apfeltosh
I love how all these fanboys rejoice when an Apple competitor goes bankrupt.
Rejoice? Nah. Smug satisfaction that we were right all along? Why not.
2007:
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http://www.intomobile.com/2007/02/03/nokia-ceo-olli-pekka-kallasvuo-talks-about-the-iphone/
"I don’t think that what we have seen so far (from Apple) is something that would any way necessitate us
changing our thinking when it comes to openness, our software and business approach," Nokia Chief Executive
Olli-Pekka Kallasvuo told a conference call with analysts.
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http://www.thestar.com/business/article/233390--ceo-balsillie-shrugs-off-blackberry-killer
BALSILLIE IS the first to admit some will find the iPhone's look appealing, but he says he's doubtful the device will have much of an impact on RIM's overall sales. For one thing, he says, the iPhone will hold little appeal for RIM's core business market and its need for secure information technology systems, which RIM has been providing for years with its corporate BlackBerry email servers.
He is also intensely critical of what appears to be an effort by Apple to wrest control of the customer experience in the consumer market. For example, the iPhone is being sold through Apple's own stores, instead of strictly through AT&T Inc., which signed an exclusive U.S. deal with the computer maker. The phone is free of AT&T's logo and software and is tied closely to Apple's iTunes music store, which is where subscribers will need to go to activate their phones and browse rate plans.
"It's a dangerous strategy," says Balsillie. "It's a tremendous amount of control. And the more control of the platform that goes out of the carrier, the more they shift into a commodity pipe."
Delicious.
I recall hearing a disgruntled business professor ( because is Finnish and couldn't fathom that Nokia was in decline at the cost of what he described as 'badly made' rubbish from Apple. And this professor specialized in innovation! He couldn't stand that the Finnish national champion was in decline. His name is Goran Roos and he must be weeping now as I sit here rejoicing that this basketcase of 21st century smartphone standards is going down!
Troll? Oh, that's right, this is appleinsider where everyone is called a troll for asking a question
Can you provide some decent links, the first one with 20 missing features, the first 10 were social network things, that isn't an OS feature, in fact most were application features. The major missing feature is way down at number 20, and let's not forgot that Apple has only recently added this themselves, but then again.
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Originally Posted by jfanning
Troll? Oh, that's right, this is appleinsider where everyone is called a troll for asking a question
Can you provide some decent links, the first one with 20 missing features, the first 10 were social network things, that isn't an OS feature, in fact most were application features. The major missing feature is way down at number 20, and let's not forgot that Apple has only recently added this themselves, but then again.
sorry not feeding the troll anymore.
ha ha ha. Typical appleinsider response, if you are willing to make a claim, at least have the balls to back it up. Any time you are ready you are welcome to post the other 999 missing features from WP7.5
Don't worry, I'm sure you'll get to use that troll comment on tonnes of other people that prove you wrong
Look fellas, Nokia is s#it, that's all you need to know. Troll or no trolls, Nokia is S#it.
Originally Posted by fanning
…the other 999 missing features from WP7.5
Yes, I believe you when you say there are 999 features missing from Windows Phone 7. That'd explain why absolutely no one is adopting it, at least.
Nokia is no longer successful and they have been poorly managed and had other issues but they are not shit. The Lumia is a great quality and stylish device. If more Android-based phones followed Nokia's lead perhaps Android phones could actually do a little better against the iPhone's success.
Hi,
I don't agree, I still think Nokia is #hit. I'd rather have an android phone from samsung than a nokia and I don't (want) either over my current iphone