You're deriding Cook, Ive and company for a product they don't even make? A product that you don't even know they will EVER make? A product that may not even be close to the next iteration of the iPhone?
Huh?
al·leged? ?[uh-lejd, uh-lej-id]
adjective
1. declared or stated to be as described; asserted: The alleged murderer could not be located for questioning.
2. doubtful; suspect; supposed: The alleged cure-all produced no results when it was tested by reputable doctors.
And I'll add that comment I made to DaHarder to every other person who has read the article, seen the photos, and then commented that Apple is somehow doing something wrong when Apple hasn't ever mentioned ANYWHERE that the next iPhone is exactly like this, close to this, or even remotely like it!!!
Sigh....
Way too many knee-jerk reactions over something that may or may not be legit and certainly isn't final. I'll wait to give an opinion until Apple's keynote when the finished product with all its features is announced.
Never underestimate the "show-off factor" of a new phone. For some people, it is much more important to have a new design that you can impress your friends with than to have a phone that you actually like to use.
Never underestimate the value of an iconic design by an iconic brand that says, "I was smart enough to buy the real thing, not some cheap knockoff."
OT: Google is contributing to copyright infringements by orientating users to illegal links through its auto complete function. link
Are all Torrents or Rapidshare files pirated (stolen) IP? I dunno myself, just asking.
EDIT: No need for an answer since I did some checking myself. Google started removing torrent and rapidshare results from their instant search over a year ago, and got panned for doing so. Some accused it of acting like the word police. No matter what they do on this one they're gonna catch flak.
To be fair we are talking about someone who wore the same clothes every day. Hardly strikes me as someone who embraces change. I think that is the problem. Steve obviously embedded into the collective DNA of his team the ethos that change is a bad thing only to be undertaken on rare occasions. It's probably a Buddhist thing - keep it simple and uniform otherwise it's bad karma or something like that.
Striking display of ignorance re Steve Jobs, his wardrobe, Apple, corporate "DNA", Buddhism and karma.
The beginning of the end is never evident until the end is near and everyone asks, "what happened?". I'll tell you, innovation died with Steve Jobs and if the iPhone 5 does look like this than that will be a true statement. This phone is ho-hum at best. Zero innovation. You can and cut and paste so long. You can only buy up so much tech and call it your own. There statements may not mean anything today but a few years from now they will. If you are wondering, de-Nile is a river in Egypt.
Zero innovation? Seriously?
Your basing this on a rumour photo? What did you expect? What would make it innovative in your eyes? Is a teardrop shape innovative? No. You don't even know the phone's feature set, yet you claim "zero innovation". Personally, I kind of like the two-tone gun metal look. Not terribly exciting, but then again, I never do cartwheels over the cosmetics anyway. A little bigger, while not innovative, is good in my book. A little thinner is an improvement. Lighter would be better. 4G would be great. A full-featured digital wallet with PassBook, would be welcomed (fingers crossed). Beyond that, let's wait and see what the phone can actually do, before everyone starts complaining. At the end of the day, you'll never please everyone anyway, and ANYONE who buys a phone solely on cosmetics is an complete moron.
It's the bundled software and the way the phone plays so nicely with my other devices and big-screen TV that sets the iPhone apart from the competition anyway.
You never know, maybe, Apple has figured out how to triple the battery life... Or maybe the new phone will be totally lame. Saying that there is zero innovation based on these RUMOUR photos is ridiculous statement.
[quote]But why use LiquidMetal on the back at all? It's the odd ridges that make me think it's not your standard metal. Could an inductive plate transfer more power faster and with less heat or loss of energy if LM was between the two? I don't know; I'm just trying to understand how these very precise and finished looking components would still have these unusual elements to the back[/quote]
There're cooling fins to stop the phone overheating like an iPad 3
You can be quite intense, and rub people the wrong way. I don't blame him, to some extent, though of course forum discipline may have to be enforced.
What I also don't like on this forum is the tendency of some users to call others trolls, even when they were on the site much before them, and I'm not talking about me only, but I've seen people being called a troll when they subscribed in 2004. That's just ridiculous and I've never seen that anywhere.
What I also don't like on this forum is the tendency of some users to call others trolls, even when they were on the site much before them, and I'm not talking about me only, but I've seen people being called a troll when they subscribed in 2004. That's just ridiculous and I've never seen that anywhere.
Personally I usually consider name-calling to be indicative of the lack of an argument. Notice that those posts often lack any logical retort, simply an attack on the person rather than the point.
I would prefer the current 3.5". Fits in my pockets, and believe a 4" will 'stretch' my pants as my phone always falls 'landscape-wise' It really looks 'long':
In that case, keep your present device and grab iOS 6. You'll be happy, your pants will be happy, and Apple won't notice.
Pretty sure I did give you some logical ways of use my magnifying dock theory and referenced other formed mobile OSs to stress my point. Other then attacking other people posting and giving their valid opinion, I don't see you adding anything positive to this discussion. You aren't going out on a limb and making comments as I did. You simply pounced on my comment and began assuming, attacking and belittling my thought process because in your mind, nothing can be better then what you hold in your hand. Alright I may have attacked you, so be it. I'm sure you've had worse written about you on the internet. But you can't argue that I am that far off on my assumptions of you. So much so that other people are agreeing with me, Pal.
I attacked your post, but I didn't attack the poster. All you've done is attack the poster. If you thought you had valid idea about using "mouse overs" in iOS you should have retooled your comments to prove your point and communicate your idea in another way. Instead you just made juvenile ad hominem attacks. So far all you've shown is that you can't handle an opinion that is different from yours. You've shown that you know how to breakdown when someone disagrees with you. You've shown that you have no focus to make your point or the ability to express them well. Don't push that blame on others for not understanding what you meant to say.
You need to learn that the only presence you have on this forum are your words. You are your words. If you don't like people being direct and honest with you then you aren't going to fair well her or in life. I could assume that your 10yo or have suffered brain damaged by the depth of critical thinking in your comment and then give you a pass based on that but I have no way of knowing any of that and would never assume such things based on the available information.
This forum offers something that can't happen with proximal communication. There is no predetermined assumptions about the poster. What you write is who you are. You have no age, no gender, no colour, no creed, no appearance whatsoever. You are your words. Learn to write well and people will respect you for that even if they don't agree with what you are writing. Learn to debate by critically thinking about how others might deconstruct your opinion so you can adjust your communication as you conceive it.
A little bigger, while not innovative, is good in my book. \
Keeping the screen tiny IS innovation. While everybody else puts big screens on their devices, Apple is alone in innovating the tiny screen. They buck the trend. People will see the still-tiny screen and realize that is what they wanted all along. The puck is moving TOWARDS tiny screens. Apple knows this. It could have gone towards where the puck used to be, big screens, but their innovative nature makes them lead the pack with a screen so tiny that nobody else can match it.
Second, we don't insult other users of the forum. Opinionated attacks against anyone not a user of the forum is fine (within reason). Additionally, your ad hominem argument that completely ignores the topic of the thread makes it unlikely that anyone else will take your future positions seriously.
Originally Posted by xmiku
I think, if this new iPhone is real and has the new dock connector, then the refreshed iPad has to be released alongside this new iPhone.
Not in the slightest. Apple will support both Dock Connectors for years to come, even if they stop making products that need the first one by the end of next spring.
Originally Posted by EricTheHalfBee
Out of curiosity, does AI's terms and conditions state anything about how old you need to be before you can join the forums?
I'd think there's a universal age limit for forums, modified up on an individual basis. At least, there should be if there isn't.
Oh, and it's incredibly hilarious how the 'OMG THIS IS SO UGLY IT CANT BE REAL APPLE WOULD NEVER MAKE THE BACK LIKE THAT' mirror the comments on the lost iPhone4 perfectly- how 'ugly' it was because it had 'grooves' on the metallic band, and how never in a million years would apple make something so hideous. As it turns out, it was real, and it only became the most successful and iconic smartphone in history, and remained unchanged for 2 generations, selling hundreds of millions. SOme of you are so indignant, pretentious, and self-important, you never learn from history and recall how wrong you all were but instead spew the same comments with absolutely no humility, and end up looking like fools each time and proven wrong in epic fashion.
I learn that lesson with the original leaks of the iPhone 4. Those grainy images made me sure it was a fake but then when the quality images came along it could only be real. To me the fit and finish are just too good to be any fake I've ever seen.
"No. That's wrong. Everyone only buys the iPhone because of how it looks. The iPhone 4S wasn't even a new phone. It was the exact same phone as the year before. If Apple thinks they can sell the same phone for three years, they have another thing coming. Apple is doomed. It's the same phone. No, it's the same phone. Same…"
"Similar design appearance"?, yes. "Same phone"? Hardly. Compare specs. NOT the same at all.
Aside from some extra screen resolution and real estate, isn't EVERYTHING that really matters contained inside the phone? CPU, graphics, memory, battery life etc.? You know, all the things we can't usually see? ANd then there's the software, where the majority of the real "evolution" happens...
If the design aesthetics of the outer "shell" is already working well, defines it as an iconic brand, is IMMENSELY popular (the world's single best-selling smartphone handset EVER, OF ALL TIME)… is instantly recognizable, differentiates it from the rest, then WHY would you ask or expect Apple to change that?
What would be "better", not just "different"? More curvaceous lines? A curved backplate maybe? We all saw that sexy 'teardrop' rendering claiming to be the iPhone 5, and liked it… maybe something like that?
Personally, I'm not that into "different" just for the sake of it. This device calls for a balance between form and function… Apple tends to stay with what works.
The same is true of their laptops. Aside from some reduction of dimensions and minor design tweaks, Apple has kept the basic form factor for the Mac Book Pro for how many years now? How many iterations? The unibody design… essentially the same, year after year. The changes that really matter? Overall performance, battery life, weight… the recently slimmed body is a 'further refinement' more than a 'complete redesign'. I expect more like that with the iPhone.
I doubt seriously it will signal "doomsday" for Apple and the iPhone...
Why shouldn't Apple sell a phone that keeps its good looks year after year, while ramping its performance and features on the inside?
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al·leged? ?[uh-lejd, uh-lej-id]
adjective
1. declared or stated to be as described; asserted: The alleged murderer could not be located for questioning.
2. doubtful; suspect; supposed: The alleged cure-all produced no results when it was tested by reputable doctors.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Napoleon_PhoneApart
Never underestimate the "show-off factor" of a new phone. For some people, it is much more important to have a new design that you can impress your friends with than to have a phone that you actually like to use.
Never underestimate the value of an iconic design by an iconic brand that says, "I was smart enough to buy the real thing, not some cheap knockoff."
Quote:
Originally Posted by SolipsismX
... Apple can't win with people, like DaHarder, because they are only here to argue that Apple is doomed. ...
There, I fixed it for you.
Quote:
Originally Posted by PhilBoogie
LOL! Bit like 'French Champagne'.
OT: Google is contributing to copyright infringements by orientating users to illegal links through its auto complete function. link
Are all Torrents or Rapidshare files pirated (stolen) IP? I dunno myself, just asking.
EDIT: No need for an answer since I did some checking myself. Google started removing torrent and rapidshare results from their instant search over a year ago, and got panned for doing so. Some accused it of acting like the word police. No matter what they do on this one they're gonna catch flak.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/217943/google_blocks_bittorrent_and_piracy_terms_from_search_tool.html
http://torrentfreak.com/google-starts-censoring-bittorrent-rapidshare-and-more-110126/
I think it looks great, and I can't wait to order one.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaun, UK
To be fair we are talking about someone who wore the same clothes every day. Hardly strikes me as someone who embraces change. I think that is the problem. Steve obviously embedded into the collective DNA of his team the ethos that change is a bad thing only to be undertaken on rare occasions. It's probably a Buddhist thing - keep it simple and uniform otherwise it's bad karma or something like that.
Striking display of ignorance re Steve Jobs, his wardrobe, Apple, corporate "DNA", Buddhism and karma.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hellacool
The beginning of the end is never evident until the end is near and everyone asks, "what happened?". I'll tell you, innovation died with Steve Jobs and if the iPhone 5 does look like this than that will be a true statement. This phone is ho-hum at best. Zero innovation. You can and cut and paste so long. You can only buy up so much tech and call it your own. There statements may not mean anything today but a few years from now they will. If you are wondering, de-Nile is a river in Egypt.
Zero innovation? Seriously?
Your basing this on a rumour photo? What did you expect? What would make it innovative in your eyes? Is a teardrop shape innovative? No. You don't even know the phone's feature set, yet you claim "zero innovation". Personally, I kind of like the two-tone gun metal look. Not terribly exciting, but then again, I never do cartwheels over the cosmetics anyway. A little bigger, while not innovative, is good in my book. A little thinner is an improvement. Lighter would be better. 4G would be great. A full-featured digital wallet with PassBook, would be welcomed (fingers crossed). Beyond that, let's wait and see what the phone can actually do, before everyone starts complaining. At the end of the day, you'll never please everyone anyway, and ANYONE who buys a phone solely on cosmetics is an complete moron.
It's the bundled software and the way the phone plays so nicely with my other devices and big-screen TV that sets the iPhone apart from the competition anyway.
You never know, maybe, Apple has figured out how to triple the battery life... Or maybe the new phone will be totally lame. Saying that there is zero innovation based on these RUMOUR photos is ridiculous statement.
There're cooling fins to stop the phone overheating like an iPad 3
What I also don't like on this forum is the tendency of some users to call others trolls, even when they were on the site much before them, and I'm not talking about me only, but I've seen people being called a troll when they subscribed in 2004. That's just ridiculous and I've never seen that anywhere.
Quote:
Originally Posted by ClemyNX
What I also don't like on this forum is the tendency of some users to call others trolls, even when they were on the site much before them, and I'm not talking about me only, but I've seen people being called a troll when they subscribed in 2004. That's just ridiculous and I've never seen that anywhere.
Personally I usually consider name-calling to be indicative of the lack of an argument. Notice that those posts often lack any logical retort, simply an attack on the person rather than the point.
Quote:
Originally Posted by PhilBoogie
I would prefer the current 3.5". Fits in my pockets, and believe a 4" will 'stretch' my pants as my phone always falls 'landscape-wise' It really looks 'long':
In that case, keep your present device and grab iOS 6. You'll be happy, your pants will be happy, and Apple won't notice.
I attacked your post, but I didn't attack the poster. All you've done is attack the poster. If you thought you had valid idea about using "mouse overs" in iOS you should have retooled your comments to prove your point and communicate your idea in another way. Instead you just made juvenile ad hominem attacks. So far all you've shown is that you can't handle an opinion that is different from yours. You've shown that you know how to breakdown when someone disagrees with you. You've shown that you have no focus to make your point or the ability to express them well. Don't push that blame on others for not understanding what you meant to say.
You need to learn that the only presence you have on this forum are your words. You are your words. If you don't like people being direct and honest with you then you aren't going to fair well her or in life. I could assume that your 10yo or have suffered brain damaged by the depth of critical thinking in your comment and then give you a pass based on that but I have no way of knowing any of that and would never assume such things based on the available information.
This forum offers something that can't happen with proximal communication. There is no predetermined assumptions about the poster. What you write is who you are. You have no age, no gender, no colour, no creed, no appearance whatsoever. You are your words. Learn to write well and people will respect you for that even if they don't agree with what you are writing. Learn to debate by critically thinking about how others might deconstruct your opinion so you can adjust your communication as you conceive it.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bilbo63
A little bigger, while not innovative, is good in my book. \
Keeping the screen tiny IS innovation. While everybody else puts big screens on their devices, Apple is alone in innovating the tiny screen. They buck the trend. People will see the still-tiny screen and realize that is what they wanted all along. The puck is moving TOWARDS tiny screens. Apple knows this. It could have gone towards where the puck used to be, big screens, but their innovative nature makes them lead the pack with a screen so tiny that nobody else can match it.
/s
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vadania
That's social generalizing and you know it.
Those posters could be 40 and you would never really know.
Of course. But any 40 year old posting like a 12 year old using the same worn out memes over and over has a few issues.
Originally Posted by TheKid2020
I've been a member longer then you…
First, I'd like to correct that:
Second, we don't insult other users of the forum. Opinionated attacks against anyone not a user of the forum is fine (within reason). Additionally, your ad hominem argument that completely ignores the topic of the thread makes it unlikely that anyone else will take your future positions seriously.
Originally Posted by xmiku
I think, if this new iPhone is real and has the new dock connector, then the refreshed iPad has to be released alongside this new iPhone.
Not in the slightest. Apple will support both Dock Connectors for years to come, even if they stop making products that need the first one by the end of next spring.
Originally Posted by EricTheHalfBee
Out of curiosity, does AI's terms and conditions state anything about how old you need to be before you can join the forums?
I'd think there's a universal age limit for forums, modified up on an individual basis. At least, there should be if there isn't.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
Second, we don't insult other users of the forum. Opinionated attacks against anyone not a user of the forum is fine (within reason).
... and I sincerely wish forum leadership would be consistent on that.
I learn that lesson with the original leaks of the iPhone 4. Those grainy images made me sure it was a fake but then when the quality images came along it could only be real. To me the fit and finish are just too good to be any fake I've ever seen.
Hey Gatorguy, your momma so fat her binaries support all architectures. (worst slam ever) ????
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Originally Posted by SolipsismX
Hey Gatorguy, your momma so fat her binaries support all architectures. (worst slam ever) ????
I've reported your post. . .
"No. That's wrong. Everyone only buys the iPhone because of how it looks. The iPhone 4S wasn't even a new phone. It was the exact same phone as the year before. If Apple thinks they can sell the same phone for three years, they have another thing coming. Apple is doomed. It's the same phone. No, it's the same phone. Same…"
"Similar design appearance"?, yes. "Same phone"? Hardly. Compare specs. NOT the same at all.
Aside from some extra screen resolution and real estate, isn't EVERYTHING that really matters contained inside the phone? CPU, graphics, memory, battery life etc.? You know, all the things we can't usually see? ANd then there's the software, where the majority of the real "evolution" happens...
If the design aesthetics of the outer "shell" is already working well, defines it as an iconic brand, is IMMENSELY popular (the world's single best-selling smartphone handset EVER, OF ALL TIME)… is instantly recognizable, differentiates it from the rest, then WHY would you ask or expect Apple to change that?
What would be "better", not just "different"? More curvaceous lines? A curved backplate maybe? We all saw that sexy 'teardrop' rendering claiming to be the iPhone 5, and liked it… maybe something like that?
Personally, I'm not that into "different" just for the sake of it. This device calls for a balance between form and function… Apple tends to stay with what works.
The same is true of their laptops. Aside from some reduction of dimensions and minor design tweaks, Apple has kept the basic form factor for the Mac Book Pro for how many years now? How many iterations? The unibody design… essentially the same, year after year. The changes that really matter? Overall performance, battery life, weight… the recently slimmed body is a 'further refinement' more than a 'complete redesign'. I expect more like that with the iPhone.
I doubt seriously it will signal "doomsday" for Apple and the iPhone...
Why shouldn't Apple sell a phone that keeps its good looks year after year, while ramping its performance and features on the inside?