I was looking or a System 1 pic showing the Menu Bar drop downs but couldn't find any.
PS: I think it's time you updated to a more modern Mac. :D
Black AND white is more than enough colours for anyone.
That method is the roots of what Apple is using, now let's check Google's patent:-
"Claims
1. A computer-implemented user notification method, comprising:
displaying, in a status area near a perimeter of a graphical interface for a mobile device, a notification of a recent alert event for the mobile device, wherein the alert event corresponds to a change in status of an application operating on the mobile device or of an account associated with the mobile device;
receiving a selection in the status area by a user of the mobile device; and
in response to the receipt of the selection, displaying, in a central zone of the graphical interface, detail regarding a plurality of alert events for the mobile device, wherein at least some of the plurality of alert events correspond to messages received by the mobile device and the detail includes text from the messages."
The patent goes on to further describe how Google's specific method involves using icons in the status bar and replacing existing icons in the status bar, to indicate notifications in the pull down menu.
Too bad iOS DOES NOT DO THIS, or Google's pending patent might be infringed.
1. A computer-implemented user notification method, comprising:
displaying, in a status area near a perimeter of a graphical interface for a mobile device, a notification of a recent alert event for the mobile device, wherein the alert event corresponds to a change in status of an application operating on the mobile device or of an account associated with the mobile device receiving a selection in the status area by a user of the mobile device; and in response to the receipt of the selection, displaying, in a central zone of the graphical interface, detail regarding a plurality of alert events for the mobile device, wherein at least some of the plurality of alert events correspond to messages received by the mobile device and the detail includes text from the messages."
Too bad iOS DOES NOT DO THIS, or Google's pending patent might be infringed.
Wait a minute, how doesn't it do the bolded? And the italicized is how iPhone OS used to exclusively (and still can, by choice) function.
Wait a minute, how doesn't it do the bolded? And the italicized is how iPhone OS used to exclusively (and still can, by choice) function.
Replacing things such as network, battery, time and other indicators in the status bar, with icons indicating notifications in the pull down notification menu.
Nope iPhones don't do it, my Galaxy Nexus does, every Android handset I've used also does it, little icons like envelopes, messages updates, downloads all sorts of things, here's a picture, top left corner shows the icons.
Replacing things such as network, battery, time and other indicators in the status bar, with icons indicating notifications in the pull down notification menu.
Ah! I see… Now, is that a persistent-until-viewed badge like iOS' on the Springboard, or does it fade away from the Status Bar after a time?
If the latter, an argument could be made that Apple's popup notifications at the top of the screen fit that bill. Note that I'm not commenting on how strong said argument would be.
Those aren't notifications nor is it pull down. Good try though. And do not give me that zero length swipe crap.
So why don't you tell us about the icons in the status bar, which form the basis of Google's patent application and how these are specifically indicated in iOS.
Seeing as iOS does not do this at all, knock yourself out.
Here's the patent again in case you missed the link before:-
Ah! I see… Now, is that a persistent-until-viewed badge like iOS' on the Springboard, or does it fade away from the Status Bar after a time?
If the latter, an argument could be made that Apple's popup notifications at the top of the screen fit that bill. Note that I'm not commenting on how strong said argument would be.
It stays whether you view it or not. One has to actively remove it or open the app from the pull down notification shade before the icon will go away.
Ah! I see… Now, is that a persistent-until-viewed badge like iOS' on the Springboard, or does it fade away from the Status Bar after a time?
If the latter, an argument could be made that Apple's popup notifications at the top of the screen fit that bill. Note that I'm not commenting on how strong said argument would be.
They persist until you go into the drop down menu and action them, say you pulled down the menu and only dismissed some of them, the others would remain in the status bar.
They persist until you go into the drop down menu and action them, say you pulled down the menu and only dismissed some of them, the others would remain in the status bar.
Thanks for the clarification. So that's wholly unlike Apple's popups, then.
Thanks for the clarification. So that's wholly unlike Apple's popups, then.
Yes, a quick read through the patent shows just how important the icons in the status bar are to Google's specific implementation.
Apple could show it adapted the tech it created twentynine years ago to work with a finger instead of a mouse.
The only way Google could milk a win out of this one would be if a group of Android fanatic web posters lied their way into being selected on the jury.
So why don't you tell us about the icons in the status bar, which form the basis of Google's patent application and how these are specifically indicated in iOS.
Seeing as iOS does not do this at all, knock yourself out.
Here's the patent again in case you missed the link before:-
Now your jumping all over the place. First you tried to pull off comparing a click down menu to a pull down notification shade to icons in a status bar. I don't see the connection and had I been a juror and you a Apple lawyer then you just failed in whatever claim it is you're trying to make. Plus there's no mention of "icons" in the patent so how could it be the basis of the patent?
First you tried to pull off comparing a click down menu to a pull down notification shade to icons in a status bar.
hill60 just reminded me of something I'm ashamed I'd forgotten. Pre-OS X, you had to hold the mouse button as you went through these menus. That's the same as a drag downward in the modern touch interface trays.
And you're all really making me want to make a "shade/blinding oneself" joke. I'd like to hold off on those until an actual lawsuit.
Now your jumping all over the place. First you tried to pull off comparing a click down menu to a pull down notification shade to icons in a status bar. I don't see the connection and had I been a juror and you a Apple lawyer then you just failed in whatever claim it is you're trying to make. Plus there's no mention of "icons" in the patent so how could it be the basis of the patent?
Point 4 of Google's patent application:-
4. The method of claim 3, further comprising removing the text from the status bar after scrolling the text, and displaying in the status bar an icon that visually represents an application corresponding to the alert event.
hill60 just reminded me of something I'm ashamed I'd forgotten. Pre-OS X, you had to hold the mouse button as you went through these menus. That's the same as a drag downward in the modern touch interface trays.
And you're all really making me want to make a "shade/blinding oneself" joke. I'd like to hold off on those until an actual lawsuit.
Funny thing is that I don't even know why I'm arguing this point. I don't think Apple copied this at all. There's definitely prior art, I just think hill60 could've used a better example.
<span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Arial, sans-serif;line-height:18px;">4. The method of claim 3, further comprising removing the text from the status bar after scrolling the text, and displaying in the status bar an icon that visually represents an application corresponding to the alert event.</span>
<span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Arial, sans-serif;line-height:18px;">PS if you hold your phone flat you aren't really pulling, dropping or clicking anything down, more across, along, towards.</span>
Across can still be up. A setting sun looks to be across from us but it's very much up.
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Originally Posted by icoco3
New one on the radar...watch this space.
Google only sends their best and brightest here.
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Originally Posted by digitalclips
Gosh, what a shock!
What would Android users do without Apple for their R & D?
Probably this:
I was looking or a System 1 pic showing the Menu Bar drop downs but couldn't find any.
PS: I think it's time you updated to a more modern Mac. :D
Originally Posted by hill60
1983
He so won't accept that.
"Experimental Twiggy"… That's something else, right there.
Originally Posted by Suddenly Newton
Google only sends their best and brightest here.
Do… their shareholders know about this?
Probably this:
"Probably", nothin'!
Originally Posted by SolipsismX
I was looking or a System 1 pic showing the Menu Bar drop downs but couldn't find any.
PS: I think it's time you updated to a more modern Mac. :D
Or, given the icons and application names, to a Mac.
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Originally Posted by SolipsismX
I was looking or a System 1 pic showing the Menu Bar drop downs but couldn't find any.
PS: I think it's time you updated to a more modern Mac. :D
Black AND white is more than enough colours for anyone.
That method is the roots of what Apple is using, now let's check Google's patent:-
"Claims
1. A computer-implemented user notification method, comprising:
displaying, in a status area near a perimeter of a graphical interface for a mobile device, a notification of a recent alert event for the mobile device, wherein the alert event corresponds to a change in status of an application operating on the mobile device or of an account associated with the mobile device;
receiving a selection in the status area by a user of the mobile device; and
in response to the receipt of the selection, displaying, in a central zone of the graphical interface, detail regarding a plurality of alert events for the mobile device, wherein at least some of the plurality of alert events correspond to messages received by the mobile device and the detail includes text from the messages."
Source
The patent goes on to further describe how Google's specific method involves using icons in the status bar and replacing existing icons in the status bar, to indicate notifications in the pull down menu.
Too bad iOS DOES NOT DO THIS, or Google's pending patent might be infringed.
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
Or, given the icons and application names, to a Mac.
Well spotted, it's a Lisa.
Originally Posted by hill60
1. A computer-implemented user notification method, comprising:
displaying, in a status area near a perimeter of a graphical interface for a mobile device, a notification of a recent alert event for the mobile device, wherein the alert event corresponds to a change in status of an application operating on the mobile device or of an account associated with the mobile device receiving a selection in the status area by a user of the mobile device; and in response to the receipt of the selection, displaying, in a central zone of the graphical interface, detail regarding a plurality of alert events for the mobile device, wherein at least some of the plurality of alert events correspond to messages received by the mobile device and the detail includes text from the messages."
Too bad iOS DOES NOT DO THIS, or Google's pending patent might be infringed.
Wait a minute, how doesn't it do the bolded? And the italicized is how iPhone OS used to exclusively (and still can, by choice) function.
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Originally Posted by NexusPhan
Android's open source license requires acknowledging the source.
Yup, just ask Oracle.
Those aren't notifications nor is it pull down. Good try though. And do not give me that zero length swipe crap.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
Wait a minute, how doesn't it do the bolded? And the italicized is how iPhone OS used to exclusively (and still can, by choice) function.
Replacing things such as network, battery, time and other indicators in the status bar, with icons indicating notifications in the pull down notification menu.
Nope iPhones don't do it, my Galaxy Nexus does, every Android handset I've used also does it, little icons like envelopes, messages updates, downloads all sorts of things, here's a picture, top left corner shows the icons.
Originally Posted by hill60
Replacing things such as network, battery, time and other indicators in the status bar, with icons indicating notifications in the pull down notification menu.
Ah! I see… Now, is that a persistent-until-viewed badge like iOS' on the Springboard, or does it fade away from the Status Bar after a time?
If the latter, an argument could be made that Apple's popup notifications at the top of the screen fit that bill. Note that I'm not commenting on how strong said argument would be.
Quote:
Originally Posted by dasanman69
Those aren't notifications nor is it pull down. Good try though. And do not give me that zero length swipe crap.
So why don't you tell us about the icons in the status bar, which form the basis of Google's patent application and how these are specifically indicated in iOS.
Seeing as iOS does not do this at all, knock yourself out.
Here's the patent again in case you missed the link before:-
http://www.google.com/patents/US20090249247
It stays whether you view it or not. One has to actively remove it or open the app from the pull down notification shade before the icon will go away.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
Ah! I see… Now, is that a persistent-until-viewed badge like iOS' on the Springboard, or does it fade away from the Status Bar after a time?
If the latter, an argument could be made that Apple's popup notifications at the top of the screen fit that bill. Note that I'm not commenting on how strong said argument would be.
They persist until you go into the drop down menu and action them, say you pulled down the menu and only dismissed some of them, the others would remain in the status bar.
Originally Posted by hill60
They persist until you go into the drop down menu and action them, say you pulled down the menu and only dismissed some of them, the others would remain in the status bar.
Thanks for the clarification. So that's wholly unlike Apple's popups, then.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
Thanks for the clarification. So that's wholly unlike Apple's popups, then.
Yes, a quick read through the patent shows just how important the icons in the status bar are to Google's specific implementation.
Apple could show it adapted the tech it created twentynine years ago to work with a finger instead of a mouse.
The only way Google could milk a win out of this one would be if a group of Android fanatic web posters lied their way into being selected on the jury.
Now your jumping all over the place. First you tried to pull off comparing a click down menu to a pull down notification shade to icons in a status bar. I don't see the connection and had I been a juror and you a Apple lawyer then you just failed in whatever claim it is you're trying to make. Plus there's no mention of "icons" in the patent so how could it be the basis of the patent?
Originally Posted by dasanman69
First you tried to pull off comparing a click down menu to a pull down notification shade to icons in a status bar.
hill60 just reminded me of something I'm ashamed I'd forgotten. Pre-OS X, you had to hold the mouse button as you went through these menus. That's the same as a drag downward in the modern touch interface trays.
And you're all really making me want to make a "shade/blinding oneself" joke. I'd like to hold off on those until an actual lawsuit.
Quote:
Originally Posted by dasanman69
Now your jumping all over the place. First you tried to pull off comparing a click down menu to a pull down notification shade to icons in a status bar. I don't see the connection and had I been a juror and you a Apple lawyer then you just failed in whatever claim it is you're trying to make. Plus there's no mention of "icons" in the patent so how could it be the basis of the patent?
Point 4 of Google's patent application:-
4. The method of claim 3, further comprising removing the text from the status bar after scrolling the text, and displaying in the status bar an icon that visually represents an application corresponding to the alert event.
http://www.google.com/patents/US20090249247
PS if you hold your phone flat you aren't really pulling, dropping or clicking anything down, more across, along, towards.
Funny thing is that I don't even know why I'm arguing this point. I don't think Apple copied this at all. There's definitely prior art, I just think hill60 could've used a better example.
Across can still be up. A setting sun looks to be across from us but it's very much up.