Most of the world couldn't care less, it's only an issue for customers of a couple of American networks locked into CDMA which was dumped almost everywhere else.
You want a "world" phone, get the AT&T version.
Well Verizon/Sprint iPhone-5 seems to be more like LTE-world phone than AT&T's version.
AT&T uses LTE frequencies no one else is using while Verizon's version share the same with the rest of the world.
Well Verizon/Sprint iPhone-5 seems to be more like LTE-world phone than AT&T's version.
AT&T uses LTE frequencies no one else is using while Verizon's version share the same with the rest of the world.
This is very true.
BTW, if it's using only one radio, you can only be using either LTE or (insert legacy network chip), you can't utilize both at once. So if you're making a call using (insert legacy network) you can't utilize LTE and vice versa if your downloading something in LTE you won't be able to utilize your other chip set?
I believe so anyway, not 100% on that one but I heard you can't switch in between while one or another session is running.
The more I read about this phone, the more I praise my 4S. World phone without bullshit. No LTE support, but with data caps, who really needs that?
Another point of confusion. Is iPhone-5 a regression as a world-phone compared to 4S? Doesn't it support same 3G GSM bands as 4S?
The 4S supports both GSM and CDMA. A single phone covers most carriers in the world, with the downside of not supporting LTE. This upgrade to LTE is actually a compromise, since you're back to having distinct GSM and CDMA models, so your AT&T phone won't work on Sprint/Verizon and vice-versa, and you'll have to make a choice if you buy an unlocked phone directly from Apple.
That was from the day before and had made no mention of the new iPhone by the original person asking or in the response. If you can find a response from VZW that says the new iPhone will support SV&D with LTE data then please do.
Thank you for telling us before 3 am.
Sticking with f*cking AT&T.
I'll be choosing Verizon to see how it works out. Was planning to change my number anyway because I'm in a new area and want a local area code so might as well give it a shot. You get 30 days to return it and cancel the contract. Additionally there is no restocking fee. I'll just keep my iPhone 4 active on AT&T in the interim.
That was from the day before and had made no mention of the new iPhone by the original person asking or in the response. If you can find a response from VZW that says the new iPhone will support SV&D with LTE data then please do.
Question is why can't the iPhone do what every other LTE phone can?
I'll be choosing Verizon to see how it works out. Was planning to change my number anyway because I'm in a new area and want a local area code so might as well give it a shot. You get 30 days to return it and cancel the contract. Additionally there is no restocking fee. I'll just keep my iPhone 4 active on AT&T in the interim.
Verizon and Sprint iPhone-5 users will not be able to access LTE on call
Verizon and Sprint iPhone-5 users will not be able to access data at all (even 3G) on call
All iPhone-5 users (including AT&T) will not be able to access LTE on call but AT&T users will be able to access 3G?
Can anyone clarify? I am contemplating to switch from AT&T to Verizon (for free tethering and facetime) but being able to use data on call (at least 3G) is a deal breaker for me.
The article title makes this seem like a Verizon issue. It isn't. There are not enough antennas in the iPhone 5 to support voice and LTE date on ANY network. AT&T will be 3G speeds when talking and surfing.
There are ways around it, however. FaceTime, Skype, bobsled, vonage.
You may be able to return your iPhone to Apple but you might be forced to pay the ETF to VZW.
My only hard memories of this concept are of the original iPhone, and so my information might be outdated, but I was under the impression that if you cancel your contract within the first 30 days, you cannot keep the phone at all (the phone that you purchased and own), and after the 30 you must pay the ETF to keep the phone. Nowhere do I remember returning the phone and still having to pay anything.
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Originally Posted by hill60
Most of the world couldn't care less, it's only an issue for customers of a couple of American networks locked into CDMA which was dumped almost everywhere else.
You want a "world" phone, get the AT&T version.
Well Verizon/Sprint iPhone-5 seems to be more like LTE-world phone than AT&T's version.
AT&T uses LTE frequencies no one else is using while Verizon's version share the same with the rest of the world.
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Originally Posted by jason98
Well Verizon/Sprint iPhone-5 seems to be more like LTE-world phone than AT&T's version.
AT&T uses LTE frequencies no one else is using while Verizon's version share the same with the rest of the world.
This is very true.
BTW, if it's using only one radio, you can only be using either LTE or (insert legacy network chip), you can't utilize both at once. So if you're making a call using (insert legacy network) you can't utilize LTE and vice versa if your downloading something in LTE you won't be able to utilize your other chip set?
I believe so anyway, not 100% on that one but I heard you can't switch in between while one or another session is running.
For crying out loud, Verizon, what decade is this??
I was going to switch from AT&T but since Verizon did away with unlimited data and now this, I guess I'll stay with the death star....
So do you think apple did it to please AT&T so they still have something exclusive to them, or did it just not fit in the phone?
It's not VZWs fault. It's Apple's.
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Originally Posted by tkrunner1738
So do you think apple did it to please AT&T so they still have something exclusive to them, or did it just not fit in the phone?
BTW. The AT&T iPhone can do 3G data and voice. It can't do voice and 4G LTE data.
http://www.businessinsider.com/verizon-iphone-5-data-voice-4g-lte-2012-9
for a different take on this.
The 4S supports both GSM and CDMA. A single phone covers most carriers in the world, with the downside of not supporting LTE. This upgrade to LTE is actually a compromise, since you're back to having distinct GSM and CDMA models, so your AT&T phone won't work on Sprint/Verizon and vice-versa, and you'll have to make a choice if you buy an unlocked phone directly from Apple.
Sticking with f*cking AT&T.
That was from the day before and had made no mention of the new iPhone by the original person asking or in the response. If you can find a response from VZW that says the new iPhone will support SV&D with LTE data then please do.
I'll be choosing Verizon to see how it works out. Was planning to change my number anyway because I'm in a new area and want a local area code so might as well give it a shot. You get 30 days to return it and cancel the contract. Additionally there is no restocking fee. I'll just keep my iPhone 4 active on AT&T in the interim.
Question is why can't the iPhone do what every other LTE phone can?
It's a 14 day return period.
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Originally Posted by dasanman69
It's not VZWs fault. It's Apple's.
So whose fault is it that my Galaxy Nexus can't do voice and LTE at the same time, well can't do LTE at all really,
Samsung or Google?
You're doing something wrong because I do it all the time on mine. I even tether while on a call. So it's yours.
Not according to every US document I know of on subsidized smartphones.
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The article title makes this seem like a Verizon issue. It isn't. There are not enough antennas in the iPhone 5 to support voice and LTE date on ANY network. AT&T will be 3G speeds when talking and surfing.
There are ways around it, however. FaceTime, Skype, bobsled, vonage.
Curious because that conflicts with this.
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/support/return-policy
You may be able to return your iPhone to Apple but you might be forced to pay the ETF to VZW.
Originally Posted by dasanman69
Curious because that conflicts with this.
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/support/return-policy
You may be able to return your iPhone to Apple but you might be forced to pay the ETF to VZW.
My only hard memories of this concept are of the original iPhone, and so my information might be outdated, but I was under the impression that if you cancel your contract within the first 30 days, you cannot keep the phone at all (the phone that you purchased and own), and after the 30 you must pay the ETF to keep the phone. Nowhere do I remember returning the phone and still having to pay anything.