Also says "any equipment purchased from us or one of our authorized agents"
I know, it's in the text I quoted and came right after the text I bolded.
...If you do accept, you can cancel a line of Service [...] within the applicable return period, any equipment you purchased from [...] one of our authorized agents...
I bet if I took Verizon to court because I returned the iPhone on the 15th day (half way through the allowed cycle) and Verizon still charged me a monthly rate for a phone contract tied to a phone number and phone I don't have that I would easily win, not that it would even make it to court.
According to the article, VoLTE is due to be implemented towards the end of the year or early next year by Verizon and Metro PCS, followed by ATT & Clearwire. Likely, support for simultaneous 3G and LTE is already easy to achieve, since LTE is more similar to 3G than CDMA, giving AT&T bragging rights until Verizon gets their VoLTE going. Since the phone is being released with only 3 to 6 months before implementation of VoLTE, I can see why Apple wouldn't bother including another chip just for a few months for Verizon.
fwiw, this also explains why Apple made a big deal of better audio fidelity for calls, since VoLTE should have better frequency response.
Makes sense. Especially if it can be enables via software.
Why does Google ads continuously show these annoying mormon ads on both Apple Insider and Mac Rumors?? I'm so sick of religious and political ads. Especially the mormon ads.
What are "ads"? (Seriously, how can someone be geeky enough to visit sites such as Appleinsider and MacRumors and yet not savvy enough use an ad block add-on to their browser?)
Every single one does. I'm not buying this story. In fact some devices like the Galaxy S3 even support simultaneous voice and data over 3G CDMA. if true,this is a huge miss on Apple's part.
They (Verizon) have phones that do work this way but it's because the manufactures saved them by adding the xtra antenna.
Now it would be nice but I can see why apple didn't do this.
If I am not mistaken this a really only a CDMA network thing that is pretty much something most of the world doesn't use.
Apple decided against adding an xtra antenna to fix/mend the issue because ultimately LTE will evolve to allow data/talk, and it is mostly a Sprint Verizon issue.
Also they are trying to avoid lawsuit pitfalls from Samsung as they Have LTE patents.
Also I'm sure the design would've been comprised by something that isn't their issue to begin with... so to speak.
Apple bet on the networks future as oppose to fixing what's broken now with Sprint and Verizon networks
Think of it this way, if Apple makes a mountain bike to be
versatile enough to ride in the city or in the woods, but, there Is
are a certain group of people who want to ride in the woods yet
only have the skills to ride on paved roads, then should Apple
Pave a road for them in the woods to "jerry rig" the experience?
Naturally those people should just learn on their own to ride in the
woods as its their limitation and should be fixed on their side of the
Equation.
So I can understand this, although it is a very complicated issue.
I have AT&T so it's a non issue for me, but I feel the pain of others on this.
It was apples choice. Also I don't think I'd want the phones design and thinness changed across the board just to fix a mess with CDMA.
But I haven't held it yet so I will resever my judgment until that happens.
Interesting. The Verizon reps I spoke to assured me that simultaneous Voice and Data would be capable over LTE while still not capable over CDMA on Verizon. I'm willing to bet this spokesman didn't understand the technology and had no idea what he was talking about.
Most of the world couldn't care less, it's only an issue for customers of a couple of American networks locked into CDMA which was dumped almost everywhere else.
You want a "world" phone, get the AT&T version.
Ummmmmm.....It's already been shown that the AT&T version is NOT a world phone, which is part of the reason I switched. The other part is that Verizon will unlock the sim for world travel while AT&T will gouge you with roaming.
The Verizon reps I spoke to assured me that simultaneous Voice and Data would be capable over LTE while still not capable over CDMA on Verizon.
I'm willing to bet this spokesman didn't understand the technology and had no idea what he was talking about.
Well, they are technically right ... they just didn't explain that since their Voice over LTE network isn't ready yet, you are stuck on CDMA until then.
Should you buy iPhone 5? My suggestion is that u needn’t upgrade iPhone 4S to iPhone 5. But you may try iPhone 5 suppose you haven’t owned any apple product. After all, Apple never lets us down for its unique products.
Anyway, if you want to experience the enjoyment about watching movies on iPhone 5 with a bigger touch screen, you’d better care for iPhone 5 supported formats.
Video Formats supported by iPhone 5
a) H.264 video up to 1080p, 30 frames per second, High Profile level 4.1 with AAC-LC audio up to 160 Kbps, 48kHz, stereo audio in .m4v, .mp4, and .mov file formats
b) MPEG-4 video up to 2.5 Mbps, 640 by 480 pixels, 30 frames per second, Simple Profile with AAC-LC audio up to 160 Kbps per channel, 48kHz, stereo audio in .m4v, .mp4, and .mov file formats
c) Motion JPEG (M-JPEG) up to 35 Mbps, 1280 by 720 pixels, 30 frames per second, audio in ulaw, PCM stereo audio in .avi file format
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I know, it's in the text I quoted and came right after the text I bolded.
I bet if I took Verizon to court because I returned the iPhone on the 15th day (half way through the allowed cycle) and Verizon still charged me a monthly rate for a phone contract tied to a phone number and phone I don't have that I would easily win, not that it would even make it to court.
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Originally Posted by dasanman69
DOH. I never considered the GSM version.
fragmentation
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6295/why-the-iphone-5-lacks-simultaneous-voice-and-lte-or-evdo-svlte-svdo-support-
Correct me if I'm wrong but can't a single antenna transmit and receive different frequencies simultaneously?
How is that fragmentation? Same would hold true for the iPhone then.
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Originally Posted by dasanman69
How is that fragmentation? Same would hold true for the iPhone then.
It absolutely holds true for the iPhone.
Makes sense. Especially if it can be enables via software.
Quote:
Originally Posted by dysamoria
Why does Google ads continuously show these annoying mormon ads on both Apple Insider and Mac Rumors?? I'm so sick of religious and political ads. Especially the mormon ads.
What are "ads"? (Seriously, how can someone be geeky enough to visit sites such as Appleinsider and MacRumors and yet not savvy enough use an ad block add-on to their browser?)
They (Verizon) have phones that do work this way but it's because the manufactures saved them by adding the xtra antenna.
Now it would be nice but I can see why apple didn't do this.
If I am not mistaken this a really only a CDMA network thing that is pretty much something most of the world doesn't use.
Apple decided against adding an xtra antenna to fix/mend the issue because ultimately LTE will evolve to allow data/talk, and it is mostly a Sprint Verizon issue.
Also they are trying to avoid lawsuit pitfalls from Samsung as they Have LTE patents.
Here's a good article on it
http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/13/iphone-5-calls-data/
Also I'm sure the design would've been comprised by something that isn't their issue to begin with... so to speak.
Apple bet on the networks future as oppose to fixing what's broken now with Sprint and Verizon networks
Think of it this way, if Apple makes a mountain bike to be
versatile enough to ride in the city or in the woods, but, there Is
are a certain group of people who want to ride in the woods yet
only have the skills to ride on paved roads, then should Apple
Pave a road for them in the woods to "jerry rig" the experience?
Naturally those people should just learn on their own to ride in the
woods as its their limitation and should be fixed on their side of the
Equation.
So I can understand this, although it is a very complicated issue.
I have AT&T so it's a non issue for me, but I feel the pain of others on this.
It was apples choice. Also I don't think I'd want the phones design and thinness changed across the board just to fix a mess with CDMA.
But I haven't held it yet so I will resever my judgment until that happens.
From what I hear it feels awesome in hand.
The Verizon reps I spoke to assured me that simultaneous Voice and Data would be capable over LTE while still not capable over CDMA on Verizon.
I'm willing to bet this spokesman didn't understand the technology and had no idea what he was talking about.
Quote:
Originally Posted by hill60
Most of the world couldn't care less, it's only an issue for customers of a couple of American networks locked into CDMA which was dumped almost everywhere else.
You want a "world" phone, get the AT&T version.
Ummmmmm.....It's already been shown that the AT&T version is NOT a world phone, which is part of the reason I switched. The other part is that Verizon will unlock the sim for world travel while AT&T will gouge you with roaming.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Harleigh Quinn
Interesting.
The Verizon reps I spoke to assured me that simultaneous Voice and Data would be capable over LTE while still not capable over CDMA on Verizon.
I'm willing to bet this spokesman didn't understand the technology and had no idea what he was talking about.
Well, they are technically right ... they just didn't explain that since their Voice over LTE network isn't ready yet, you are stuck on CDMA until then.
Ben
So I can't receive iMessages or emails while on a voice call? Can someone confirm this with their current iPhone on Verizon?
Over cellular data whilst on a call, no.
Here's something to think about:
No simultaneous voice and data on Verizon, but have excellent reception, faster data speeds, and excellent customer service.
versus
Simultaneous voice and data on AT&T but have crappy reception, slower data speeds, and crappy customer service.
Should you buy iPhone 5? My suggestion is that u needn’t upgrade iPhone 4S to iPhone 5. But you may try iPhone 5 suppose you haven’t owned any apple product. After all, Apple never lets us down for its unique products.
Anyway, if you want to experience the enjoyment about watching movies on iPhone 5 with a bigger touch screen, you’d better care for iPhone 5 supported formats.
Video Formats supported by iPhone 5
a) H.264 video up to 1080p, 30 frames per second, High Profile level 4.1 with AAC-LC audio up to 160 Kbps, 48kHz, stereo audio in .m4v, .mp4, and .mov file formats
b) MPEG-4 video up to 2.5 Mbps, 640 by 480 pixels, 30 frames per second, Simple Profile with AAC-LC audio up to 160 Kbps per channel, 48kHz, stereo audio in .m4v, .mp4, and .mov file formats
c) Motion JPEG (M-JPEG) up to 35 Mbps, 1280 by 720 pixels, 30 frames per second, audio in ulaw, PCM stereo audio in .avi file format
Since not all the videos can be playback on iPhone 5, here we recommend a free iPhone 5 video converter to make it possible to play any movies on iPhone 5. It is VidPie, totally free video transcoding software for windows users and meets any conversion demands from mp4, mov, mts, mxf, avi, etc to any other formats.
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