Google's "iLost" Motorola ad faked an address to "lose" iOS 6 Maps

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  • Reply 61 of 277

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    Originally Posted by UrbanVoyeur View Post


     


    I agree. Try "coney island, brooklyn" with or without the comma. Gives you a bizarre location in Brooklyn, miles from Coney Island.


     


    I don't know why Google/Motorola was stupid enough to use a fake address. There are plenty of real ones that don't work.



     





    Yeah, like inputting "Columbia, SC" and getting Santiago de Cali in the country of Columbia.

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  • Reply 62 of 277
    apple ][apple ][ Posts: 9,233member

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    Originally Posted by bullhead View Post


     


    I love Republicans. facts be damned, whatever they believe is the reality.  It does not matter the address does not exist, their crappy Android phone says it does, so that means it does.



     


    What the hell do Republicans have to do with iOS and Android?


     


    If you wish to see really stupid and ignorant, braindead people, have a look at Howard Stern interviewing Democrats and Obama supporters in Harlem. Talk about delusional fools. These people truly have shit for brains. 



     


    If you wish to further discuss how ignorant Democrats really are, then meet me in the political lounge, and I'd be glad to continue the disucssion, since I know that political speak is frowned upon in this part of the forum, but it was my duty to call out your ignorant, political comment.

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  • Reply 63 of 277


    Do you think the reason that they didn't use an actual address is the same reason they use fake addresses 555 numbers in TV/Movies/Advertising?  Surely one of you caught that.  There are so many bugs with Maps that Apple is lucky they made this ad so tame.

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  • Reply 64 of 277
    jragostajragosta Posts: 10,473member
    rednival wrote: »
    There's only no evidence if you ignore that fact that many people don't like it, and I have asked around.  Are they being influenced by the media?  Probably.

    Of course they were influenced by the media.

    And "I have asked around" is not valid evidence. When you ask people in your fandroid club, what do you think they're going to say?

    As I said, there is absolutely no valid evidence that you're any more or less likely to get an error with Apple's Maps than with Google's Maps or anyone else's maps. Maybe Apple Maps does have a big problem, but you can't tell that from the volume of whining on forums like this.
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  • Reply 65 of 277

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    Originally Posted by Pooch View Post





    perhaps because there is no structure there? see my earlier post, where i mention that the new york city map website can find it.


     


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    Originally Posted by jayhammy View Post



    Sorry to burst your bubble, fellas, but the address is REAL. Do a search in any mapping app and you'll see. SORRY!


    It's NOT a real address, that's why it doesn't show up on Apple's mapping system. The address does not exist in the United States Postal Service site either. I think they would be a bit more accurate than google, bing or even apple. If my house number is 110, and my neighbor is 120... 115 does NOT exist. it's not real. Bing, Google and whatever other one you mentioned should be telling you that the address is non existent instead of sending you on a goose chase for something that's not there.

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  • Reply 66 of 277
    The complaints about "losing" Google maps make no sense to me. It's an iPhone people, the Internet is literally in your hands. http://maps.google.com
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  • Reply 67 of 277
    Busted! it was mentioned before at how sleazy it was to show the sat view on one but not the other, but this takes the cake. I doubt that Google would would have had to look very hard to find some actual error or shortcoming with Apple Maps so to use this is just extra weak.
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  • Reply 68 of 277
    john.bjohn.b Posts: 2,742member

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    Originally Posted by jayhammy View Post



    Sorry to burst your bubble, fellas, but the address is REAL. Do a search in any mapping app and you'll see. SORRY!


     


    It's real because it shows up on Google maps?  And doing a search with a mapping app that uses Google Maps as the back end is your proof?


     


    If you want to verify if the address is "REAL", check whether the USPS delivers mail there (spoiler: they don't):


     


    https://tools.usps.com/go/ZipLookupResultsAction!input.action?resultMode=0&companyName=&address1=315+E+15th+street&address2=&city=new+york&state=NY&urbanCode=&postalCode=&zip=


     


     


    Quote:


    You entered:


    315 E 15TH STREET

    NEW YORK NY


    Here's the full address, using standard abbreviations and formatting...


     


    The address you provided is not recognized by the US Postal Service as an address we serve. Mail sent to this address may be returned.



     


    (ODD Range 301 - 323) W 15TH ST

    NEW YORK NY 10011-5971




     


    Sorry to burst your bubble, jayastroturfer.  LOL!

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  • Reply 69 of 277
    apple ][apple ][ Posts: 9,233member

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    Originally Posted by anonymouse View Post


     


    Any difference in city, without one entered, is probably related to your current location (or at least your last known one, or previous searches, or area displayed in maps). So, it's entirely possible that entering an address without a city can give different results.



    Yes, but I'm located in the same city as the person who claims that it showed up wrong.


     


    I didn't have a problem finding any of these addresses. The suggestions that showed up provided the correct city. Of course, if I was deliberately trying to get lost, I could have always clicked on a wrong suggestion, if that was my intention.

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  • Reply 70 of 277

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    Originally Posted by venimdenim View Post


    Do you think the reason that they didn't use an actual address is the same reason they use fake addresses 555 numbers in TV/Movies/Advertising?



     


    No.


     


    I think they spent months pouring over the iOS beta releases, having signed up for the developer program under false pretenses, to find any "discrepancies" they could. That's pretty obvious from the fact that on the day of its release, they were ready with as many "discrepancies" as they could find, and this ad is the result of one of those "discrepancies". And by 'they', I mean Google. And by 'discrepancies' I mean misrepresentations when that's all they could come up with.

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  • Reply 71 of 277

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    Originally Posted by Apple ][ View Post


    Yes, but I'm located in the same city as the person who claims that it showed up wrong.


     


    I didn't have a problem finding any of these addresses. The suggestions that showed up provided the correct city. Of course, if I was deliberately trying to get lost, I could have always clicked on a wrong suggestion, if that was my intention.



     


    See the other possible reasons I gave for different results.

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  • Reply 72 of 277
    wovelwovel Posts: 956member
    pooch wrote: »
    while i'm not championing the ad, and i do believe it is sleazy and misleading, perhaps they used that address because the address really is "an address" in the sense that if anything is ever built there there will already be an address assigned. it happens with vacant lots all the time, even if there is no structure.
    even the new york city map website says it's an address. as opposed to an address that genuinely doesn't exist (take 681 E 38th St for example, which would be smack dab in the middle of the east river.)
    edit: forgot to add that it is not lost on me that the nyc map site might rely on google maps, but on its face that does not appear to be the case.

    It's a park, not a vacant lot.
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  • Reply 73 of 277
    Google = Worse than a politician
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  • Reply 74 of 277
    lkrupplkrupp Posts: 10,557member
    simtub wrote: »
    Losing Google's YouTube App on iOS:
    No biggie...we don't have to watch Gangnam Style

    Losing Google Maps on iOS:
    Millions of users in the Apple community disoriented...Apple, this is a monumental and fundamental part of what makes the iPhone or any smartphone a fledging Internet communications device. We have become so dependant on this in our daily lives and we take google maps as a feature that we pay for on iPhone having paid 1000's of dollars on products.

    When the first iPhone came out, google maps was a primary feature and since then it always has been for millions of us. Now... Suddenly this smartphone is not so smart after all is it?

    All we as customers want is some official statement regarding the situation so we can make calculated decisions in our own lives. The majority of users don't care about your beef with Google... We just want to know what's going to be done about this fiasco of epic proportions.

    We're you born a drama queen or did your mother drop you on your head as a baby?
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  • Reply 75 of 277
    I agree. Try "coney island, brooklyn" with or without the comma. Gives you a bizarre location in Brooklyn, miles from Coney Island.

    I don't know why Google/Motorola was stupid enough to use a fake address. There are plenty of real ones that don't work.


     

    The reason why it went to Marlborough Rd is because it would be the equivalent to E 15 St in Brooklyn and probably was at one time.
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  • Reply 76 of 277
    wovelwovel Posts: 956member
    venimdenim wrote: »
    Do you think the reason that they didn't use an actual address is the same reason they use fake addresses 555 numbers in TV/Movies/Advertising?  Surely one of you caught that.  There are so many bugs with Maps that Apple is lucky they made this ad so tame.

    No. I think they used it because it was the only one they could find.
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  • Reply 77 of 277
    pooch wrote: »
    if you post a screen shot in the next twenty seconds i'll believe you. otherwise your two posts smells of troll.

    What? Too lazy to input the addresses yourself? Whether you agree or not, I got the same results as your "troll."
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  • Reply 78 of 277
    jragostajragosta Posts: 10,473member
    <strong>Google's Motorola Mobility subsidiary went looking for an address that didn't actually exist in an effort to artificially portray Apple's new iOS 6 Maps as deficient.</strong>
    In a marketing ploy not unlike Nokia's <a href="http://www.theverge.com/2012/9/5/3294545/nokias-pureview-ads-are-fraudulent">faked camera shots</a> to promote features of its new Windows Phone 8 models, an ad promoting Motorola's Droid RAZR M is portrayed being able to locate an address that iOS 6 Maps directs to a wrong road name in what appears to be the wrong city.
    "Looking for 315 E 15th in Manhattan?" Motorola Mobility <a href="https://plus.google.com/u/1/+Motorola/posts/ZyD1iptjvAb">posed</a> on its Google+ site. "Google Maps on DROID RAZR M will get you there & not #iLost in Brooklyn."

    And here's the REALLY funny part. I just typed "315 E 15th in Manhattan" (which is exactly the way they describe it in the ad) into my iPhone 4S with iOS 6 and it gave me the location of the NYC park at the corner of 2nd Ave and 15th St. So the address that Google was complaining about gives the same location that Google gives.

    So now, when people enter that address into their iPhone to see what's going on, they can immediately see that Google is lying.
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  • Reply 79 of 277
    wovelwovel Posts: 956member
    galaxytab wrote: »
    Fake addresses or noi, I'll have much more faith in Nokia's Navteq (which finds this "fake" address) over anything apple is pushing.
    Its surprising to see all these other mapping companies have it wrong.

    Why would you have faith in something that will take you to the wrong place. If you were IN Manhattan AND searching for 315 E 15th street , the close place you could want to be going is in Brooklyn. Why would you trust the system that will take you to the middle of Manhattan?
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  • Reply 80 of 277


    you can't be serious?  You think that all of the media/blog/personal coverage has been a sinister ploy spearheaded by Google to disparage Maps?  Take off yr fanboy blinders, little man

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