Agreed. I don't know why people say e-Ink is so great anyway. I thought it was a brilliant idea until I actually tried to use a kindle. It practically made my eyes bleed.
The page refresh is so slow you can see it happening as great stripes of text are replaced from the top of the screen down, (and you have to wait for it too). It also is quite legible in direct sunlight, but almost unreadable under any other kind of lighting conditions. You actually have to sit under a reading lamp with the thing just like a regular book or you can't see the page half the time. I found the grey text on slightly lighter grey background gave me eye fatigue and ultimately, headaches after a while also.
Mostly it reminded me of trying to read an old paperback in a dimly lit room. So .. realistic? yes. Easy on the eyes? Not at all.
Give your child a kindle for Xmas only if you want them to be wearing thick glasses by the time they are 20. :-)
You probably never used an iPad so far. I use my iPad outdoors all the time particularly for hiking and motor biking, where I use different offline GPS navigation software. For just this usage my iPad has become absolutely invaluable to me. Ever since I got these Navi apps on my iOS devices, my Garmin's have become dust collectors
.
Where I have to admit, that reading books in the glaring sun, is a bit off a limitation. But apart from a few people who desperately want to get skin cancer nobody I know does that.
The whole talk about the iPad can't be used outdoors is utter BS.
So now nobody goes to the beach or sits outside at all except people who want skin cancer. These comments on AI get more bizarre all the time.
I own 2 iPads. An iPad is too heavy to carry for long periods of time- an iPhone and a feather-lite Kindle with a month's worth of charge works just fine. Why don't you just get a map like I'm frequently asked to sub for StreetView?
So now nobody goes to the beach or sits outside at all except people who want skin cancer. These comments on AI get more bizarre all the time.
I own 2 iPads. An iPad is too heavy to carry for long periods of time- an iPhone and a feather-lite Kindle with a month's worth of charge works just fine. Why don't you just get a map like I'm frequently asked to sub for StreetView?
I love the "the iPad is too heavy" whining.
My iPad weighs considerably less than half of many of the books I might carry around instead. And I often carried around 2 or more books.
So explain to me how a 1.5 pound iPad is so much worse than multiple books weighing 2-5 pounds? Not to mention that I can often avoid carrying around my 5 pound laptop by using the iPad.
So now nobody goes to the beach or sits outside at all except people who want skin cancer. These comments on AI get more bizarre all the time.
I own 2 iPads. An iPad is too heavy to carry for long periods of time- an iPhone and a feather-lite Kindle with a month's worth of charge works just fine. Why don't you just get a map like I'm frequently asked to sub for StreetView?
Hmm.. sorry but I don't know, what StreetView has to do with anything I mentioned. ? -
I love the "the iPad is too heavy" whining.
My iPad weighs considerably less than half of many of the books I might carry around instead. And I often carried around 2 or more books.
So explain to me how a 1.5 pound iPad is so much worse than multiple books weighing 2-5 pounds? Not to mention that I can often avoid carrying around my 5 pound laptop by using the iPad.
Perhaps you should spend some time at the gym.
1) The iPad isn't too heavy for the logical reasons you mention but I do think the next 10" iPad will be significantly lighter thanks to 32nm/28nm and any iPad mini will be built around its lightness so it can be held in one hand for indefinite periods.
2) It's funny how iSheldon/Teckstud makes all these pejorative comments about Apple products but then slides in that he thinks the Kindle is "feather light" while ignoring all its shortcomings. If Apple released an eInk device (which they won't) he'd complain that Apple is copying Amazon, that it doesn't have Maps, doesn't have the same App Store, only in black and white, etc.
Cool. But the game changer here would be color ware options like the iPod nano. But as for retina display, hell no. People would forgo the more expensive iPad for the mini. And as I think about it, there won't be no damn color ware options. The mini is just a kindle challenger.
Personally, I'm waiting for a -larger- iPad. Something closer to the ubiquitous 8.5x11 sheet of paper in size. A little heavier is okay with me, and I'd happily pay more too.
I'm 54, and I keep having to tap-to-zoom-in (a very nice feature, BTW) to read news articles, like I'm doing now. It all feels a little bit cramped on a 10 inch screen-I can't imagine trying to use a smaller one.
I'm with TS, it'll never happen. Ridiculous concept, Apple would never be so daft.
I've believed it was happening since we saw that orange mold. It's not a good idea, but when has Apple only ever done good ideas? This one'll just be more costly than most.
Originally Posted by BestKeptSecret
Hey TS, do you have a point down for the following on your list of troll claims:
"Holding out for that one thing Apple is unlikely to release but I do want it and I will buy it the moment it comes out. So I am not a troll, 'cos I will buy something Apple. But until that one thing releases, everything Apple does sucks so I will constantly berate all their offerings".
Case in point - iSheldon basically wants Apple to release a Kindle, which he will buy in an instant.
Interesting… that falls into the same category as the xMac people. Let's see…
"Express that if Apple made a product that will never come to fruition (or is physically impossible), it would be the first product you buy from Apple. Since they do not, your complaining about all things Apple is justified."
How's that?
And thanks for the idea. That's definitely going on the list in some form.
Cool. But the game changer here would be color ware options like the iPod nano.
But as for retina display, hell no.
People would forgo the more expensive iPad for the mini. And as I think about it, there won't be no damn color ware options.
The mini is just a kindle challenger.
I think they have to position this iPad as the quality device in an already crowded category where the price has been set low. So that means it has to be aluminum, serious white and black only, with a good screen, denser than the iPad 2 and probably better looking than the other ~160 ppi screens out there because of IPS.
Gazoobee will not get his stupid plastic back, and fortunately he won't get to complain that his favorite Barbie-doll pink was not picked over electric pink or whatever. For this I am glad. He doesn't get what Apple is doing in general, and he is way off, deliberately and perversely, about the opening purpose of this tablet.
I could be wrong also, but I figure this Pad is meant to raise the bar on quality in an already plasticked-down device category. This way kids can get into the ecosystem early and have their aesthetics calibrated for a lifetime of higher expectations.
When lowering manufacturing costs can being the price down to the iPod nano level, then we might see colors—anodized aluminum, not plastic. But we would also see retina screens and better cameras on the high end at the same time, so how would they differentiate these from the toyPads?
I love the "the iPad is too heavy" whining.
My iPad weighs considerably less than half of many of the books I might carry around instead. And I often carried around 2 or more books.
So explain to me how a 1.5 pound iPad is so much worse than multiple books weighing 2-5 pounds? Not to mention that I can often avoid carrying around my 5 pound laptop by using the iPad.
Perhaps you should spend some time at the gym.
And why exactly would I go hiking with 5 pounds worth of books attached to me which us what I was responding to?
If Apple released an eInk device (which they won't) he'd complain that Apple is copying Amazon, that it doesn't have Maps, doesn't have the same App Store, only in black and white, etc.
Excuse me- but what crystal ball app do you use?
Au contraire as I've stated I would buy one.
And why exactly would I go hiking with 5 pounds worth of books attached to me which us what I was responding to?
When I used to go hiking - before my 4 kids took control of all my time - I'd regularly bring several Audubon books with me to identify birds, trees, insects, etc.
Now, I never considered bringing an iPad with me, but the iPhone is a great substitute for those.
The pricing point on the iPad Mini is the most critical Apple have faced in recent years for a new product. Having created the pad market place they have seen a sub set of 7 inch devices some eReaders some Android driven tablets create a market that the current iPod Touch and iPad line up does not reach. With the retail price of the iPad 2 here in the UK at £329 for the basic model and £249 for the new iPod Touch the iPad Mini needs to sit in the middle to make sense at around the £269 -£289 mark. Unless Apple reduce the price on the iPod Touch (unlikely given that they only lauched it a few weeks ago) they will look to position the iPad Mini as the top end 7inch tablet, the Apple brand will do much along with the fact that it will be fully functional tablet not just an eReader to justify the extra cost. I'd love to see Apple be bold and position at the £249 price point and move the iPod Touch down to £229 and really create a stir in this market space, but if you're hoping to see a sub £200 Apple tablet I think you might be dissapointed. We'll soon see!
I love the "the iPad is too heavy" whining.
My iPad weighs considerably less than half of many of the books I might carry around instead. And I often carried around 2 or more books.
So explain to me how a 1.5 pound iPad is so much worse than multiple books weighing 2-5 pounds? Not to mention that I can often avoid carrying around my 5 pound laptop by using the iPad.
Perhaps you should spend some time at the gym.
You can now add spaghetti arm weaklings to the list of people that only buy Apple products lol.
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Amazon is now officially doomed.
So now nobody goes to the beach or sits outside at all except people who want skin cancer. These comments on AI get more bizarre all the time.
I own 2 iPads. An iPad is too heavy to carry for long periods of time- an iPhone and a feather-lite Kindle with a month's worth of charge works just fine. Why don't you just get a map like I'm frequently asked to sub for StreetView?
I love the "the iPad is too heavy" whining.
My iPad weighs considerably less than half of many of the books I might carry around instead. And I often carried around 2 or more books.
So explain to me how a 1.5 pound iPad is so much worse than multiple books weighing 2-5 pounds? Not to mention that I can often avoid carrying around my 5 pound laptop by using the iPad.
Perhaps you should spend some time at the gym.
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Originally Posted by iSheldon
So now nobody goes to the beach or sits outside at all except people who want skin cancer. These comments on AI get more bizarre all the time.
I own 2 iPads. An iPad is too heavy to carry for long periods of time- an iPhone and a feather-lite Kindle with a month's worth of charge works just fine. Why don't you just get a map like I'm frequently asked to sub for StreetView?
Hmm.. sorry but I don't know, what StreetView has to do with anything I mentioned. ? -
1) The iPad isn't too heavy for the logical reasons you mention but I do think the next 10" iPad will be significantly lighter thanks to 32nm/28nm and any iPad mini will be built around its lightness so it can be held in one hand for indefinite periods.
2) It's funny how iSheldon/Teckstud makes all these pejorative comments about Apple products but then slides in that he thinks the Kindle is "feather light" while ignoring all its shortcomings. If Apple released an eInk device (which they won't) he'd complain that Apple is copying Amazon, that it doesn't have Maps, doesn't have the same App Store, only in black and white, etc.
But as for retina display, hell no.
People would forgo the more expensive iPad for the mini. And as I think about it, there won't be no damn color ware options.
The mini is just a kindle challenger.
I'm 54, and I keep having to tap-to-zoom-in (a very nice feature, BTW) to read news articles, like I'm doing now. It all feels a little bit cramped on a 10 inch screen-I can't imagine trying to use a smaller one.
Originally Posted by UrbanVerb
I'm with TS, it'll never happen. Ridiculous concept, Apple would never be so daft.
I've believed it was happening since we saw that orange mold. It's not a good idea, but when has Apple only ever done good ideas? This one'll just be more costly than most.
Originally Posted by BestKeptSecret
Hey TS, do you have a point down for the following on your list of troll claims:
"Holding out for that one thing Apple is unlikely to release but I do want it and I will buy it the moment it comes out. So I am not a troll, 'cos I will buy something Apple. But until that one thing releases, everything Apple does sucks so I will constantly berate all their offerings".
Case in point - iSheldon basically wants Apple to release a Kindle, which he will buy in an instant.
Interesting… that falls into the same category as the xMac people. Let's see…
"Express that if Apple made a product that will never come to fruition (or is physically impossible), it would be the first product you buy from Apple. Since they do not, your complaining about all things Apple is justified."
How's that?
And thanks for the idea. That's definitely going on the list in some form.
I think they have to position this iPad as the quality device in an already crowded category where the price has been set low. So that means it has to be aluminum, serious white and black only, with a good screen, denser than the iPad 2 and probably better looking than the other ~160 ppi screens out there because of IPS.
Gazoobee will not get his stupid plastic back, and fortunately he won't get to complain that his favorite Barbie-doll pink was not picked over electric pink or whatever. For this I am glad. He doesn't get what Apple is doing in general, and he is way off, deliberately and perversely, about the opening purpose of this tablet.
I could be wrong also, but I figure this Pad is meant to raise the bar on quality in an already plasticked-down device category. This way kids can get into the ecosystem early and have their aesthetics calibrated for a lifetime of higher expectations.
When lowering manufacturing costs can being the price down to the iPod nano level, then we might see colors—anodized aluminum, not plastic. But we would also see retina screens and better cameras on the high end at the same time, so how would they differentiate these from the toyPads?
And why exactly would I go hiking with 5 pounds worth of books attached to me which us what I was responding to?
Excuse me- but what crystal ball app do you use?
Au contraire as I've stated I would buy one.
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Originally Posted by iSheldon
And why exactly would I go hiking with 5 pounds worth of books attached to me which us what I was responding to?
When I used to go hiking - before my 4 kids took control of all my time
Now, I never considered bringing an iPad with me, but the iPhone is a great substitute for those.
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Originally Posted by tylerk36
I am assuming that the price will be, hopefully $100.00 to $125.00 less? Thats would be nice. Apple's retail sales will increase substantially.
I honestly don't see multi colors. Cost prohibited.
Why would it be cost prohibitive to produce different colors?
I want one of these so badly.
uh-oh
That's less than 7MM for the December quarter. Way less.
iSheldon:
To get some exercise. And we get a iSheldon-thread-free to boot.
I want one of these so badly.
Then I'll have
MBP (given to me by employer but I don't use it at all. I rarely if ever even turn it on.)
MBA
Ipad
Ipad Mini
Iphone
Shuffle (given to me but I don't use it)
The pricing point on the iPad Mini is the most critical Apple have faced in recent years for a new product. Having created the pad market place they have seen a sub set of 7 inch devices some eReaders some Android driven tablets create a market that the current iPod Touch and iPad line up does not reach. With the retail price of the iPad 2 here in the UK at £329 for the basic model and £249 for the new iPod Touch the iPad Mini needs to sit in the middle to make sense at around the £269 -£289 mark. Unless Apple reduce the price on the iPod Touch (unlikely given that they only lauched it a few weeks ago) they will look to position the iPad Mini as the top end 7inch tablet, the Apple brand will do much along with the fact that it will be fully functional tablet not just an eReader to justify the extra cost. I'd love to see Apple be bold and position at the £249 price point and move the iPod Touch down to £229 and really create a stir in this market space, but if you're hoping to see a sub £200 Apple tablet I think you might be dissapointed. We'll soon see!
Same thing I was thinking.
You can now add spaghetti arm weaklings to the list of people that only buy Apple products lol.
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Originally Posted by Slurpy
I'll be buying the shit out of this.
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