What's amazing is the mentality that upgrading is a necessity or that somehow one suffers from not being able to install the latest version. Gingerbread is kinda dated but still works just fine.
It's not about the necessity to upgrade, it's about the ability to upgrade and the ease of upgrading. That whole 'choice' thing we hear from google.
What's amazing is the mentality that upgrading is a necessity or that somehow one suffers from not being able to install the latest version. Gingerbread is kinda dated but still works just fine.
Except for the huge number of unpatched vulnerabilities....
NOT... Android updates don't 'break things' like so many iOS updates have - They simply improve the user experience while moving mobile operating systems forward.
Funny you can run Android 4.1 "Jelly Bean" on the original HTC G1. It is not fast, but the point is it works. So please tell me again how android 4.2 it will be incompatible.
Can you even run iOS 6 on a iPhone 3g? Let alone the original?
Funny you can run Android 4.1 "Jelly Bean" on the original HTC G1. It is not fast, but the point is it works. So please tell me again how android 4.2 it will be incompatible.
Can you even run iOS 6 on a iPhone 3g? Let alone the original?
because they is unusually and in the US unless the US carriers allow the upgrade to the new OS you can not get even is the processor in your phone may support it. Also most Samsung and Motorola Phones which do not support the newer verses on older hardware, and when I mean old I am talking about a phone that maybe only a year or so old. So if you want the latest OS from Android you need to upgrade hardware most time. They are following the M$ approach, create features which require hardware to be update there by allowing your hardware partner to keep selling new product so people can get a new software feature.
I am on my 3rd Motorola Android phone in 3 yrs ( company paid) and the last two were stuck on the release of the android they shipped with, no upgrade path. The one I have now which is on 2 months old stuck on 4.0 and they can not say whether it can be upgraded to 4.1, again it is up to the service provider to determine.
At least with Apple the Cell phone companies have no say so in what version of OS you can use or what features you get.
This the Android reality which most people have no idea is going on, most probably do not care they buy another phone just to get a new phone since the are treated as throw away items.
I'm not sure why their naming schemes bother me so much, but they just seem lame. I cringe every time I picture their executives in a board room brainstorming new OS nicknames.
Oh well, instead of fighting it, maybe I should just help them out for the next one. They seem to like three word foods, so I am thinking the next one should be called...
Oh well, instead of fighting it, maybe I should just help them out for the next one. They seem to like three word foods, so I am thinking the next one should be called...
Chicken Noodle Soup.
Gotta be a dessert, and it's in alphabetical order.
I'm not sure why their naming schemes bother me so much, but they just seem lame. I cringe every time I picture their executives in a board room brainstorming new OS nicknames.
Oh well, instead of fighting it, maybe I should just help them out for the next one. They seem to like three word foods, so I am thinking the next one should be called...
I have a galaxy nexus and I didn't get an update for Jelly Bean until last month. MONTHS after it was released and I have a Nexus!! You know why? because a Canadian nexus isn't a real nexus, the update comes from Samsung, not Google. How long will I have to wait for KLP?
An on my 4S? I can install iOS6 the very same day it was released.
23.7% are on ICS and 1.8% are on JB. ICS might even hit 25% a full year later.
JB still isn't as secure as iOS 5, but it's very close as Google made significant updates. ICS is way begin iOS 5. GB is pathetic.
DaHarder, you should educate yourself on how Android works. The reason Apps work is because developers are coding for Froyo (API level 8) or GB (API levels 9 & 10). Nobody codes for ICS or JB (API 15 & 16) since they'd have a much smaller market of potential devices (customers) to sell to. Android Apps are NOT backward compatible. An App coded for ICS will not run on a GB device. They are forward compatible, so Apps written for Froyo will run on any device up to JB.
So you get a JB phone and you're stuck running Apps that use NONE of the new API's of JB since your App is using a SUBSET of API's by targeting an older version (like Froyo).
What's the point of having all those new API's if you can't find any Apps that use them?
Meanwhile iOS 6 hit 60% of phone and 40% of tablets in less than 2 weeks. If I'm a developer I can code using the new iOS 6 API's and even a 3GS will run my App. I also know 60% of users can buy my App and that number will climb much higher in the coming months.
How does that work for you? (Seriously curious here, not smart-ass… )
Far better than I imagined it would! Yeah, it's slowish. Not nearly as slow as they'd have you believe. Every once in a while, you have to reboot because of a memory leak somewhere, but it speeds right back up once you do.
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It's not about the necessity to upgrade, it's about the ability to upgrade and the ease of upgrading. That whole 'choice' thing we hear from google.
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
Incompatibility with all existing devices.
hahaha
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Originally Posted by Neo42
What's amazing is the mentality that upgrading is a necessity or that somehow one suffers from not being able to install the latest version. Gingerbread is kinda dated but still works just fine.
Except for the huge number of unpatched vulnerabilities....
NOT... Android updates don't 'break things' like so many iOS updates have - They simply improve the user experience while moving mobile operating systems forward.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
Incompatibility with all existing devices.
Funny you can run Android 4.1 "Jelly Bean" on the original HTC G1. It is not fast, but the point is it works. So please tell me again how android 4.2 it will be incompatible.
Can you even run iOS 6 on a iPhone 3g? Let alone the original?
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Originally Posted by malta
Can you even run iOS 6 on a iPhone 3g? Let alone the original?
Probably if you jailbreak it. The point is that Apple doesn't want you to because it would be a poor user experience.
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Originally Posted by malta
Funny you can run Android 4.1 "Jelly Bean" on the original HTC G1. It is not fast, but the point is it works. So please tell me again how android 4.2 it will be incompatible.
Can you even run iOS 6 on a iPhone 3g? Let alone the original?
because they is unusually and in the US unless the US carriers allow the upgrade to the new OS you can not get even is the processor in your phone may support it. Also most Samsung and Motorola Phones which do not support the newer verses on older hardware, and when I mean old I am talking about a phone that maybe only a year or so old. So if you want the latest OS from Android you need to upgrade hardware most time. They are following the M$ approach, create features which require hardware to be update there by allowing your hardware partner to keep selling new product so people can get a new software feature.
I am on my 3rd Motorola Android phone in 3 yrs ( company paid) and the last two were stuck on the release of the android they shipped with, no upgrade path. The one I have now which is on 2 months old stuck on 4.0 and they can not say whether it can be upgraded to 4.1, again it is up to the service provider to determine.
At least with Apple the Cell phone companies have no say so in what version of OS you can use or what features you get.
This the Android reality which most people have no idea is going on, most probably do not care they buy another phone just to get a new phone since the are treated as throw away items.
That will definitely blend!
Another Android OS update?
The fifteen people that will be able to install it must be very excited!
I love how my anti-troll comment brought 'em out of the woodwork.
And I don't know about iOS 6, but I have iOS 5 on my first-gen.
I'm not sure why their naming schemes bother me so much, but they just seem lame. I cringe every time I picture their executives in a board room brainstorming new OS nicknames.
Oh well, instead of fighting it, maybe I should just help them out for the next one. They seem to like three word foods, so I am thinking the next one should be called...
Chicken Noodle Soup.
Key Lime Pie...coming to a smartphone not near you....
Originally Posted by DJinTX
Oh well, instead of fighting it, maybe I should just help them out for the next one. They seem to like three word foods, so I am thinking the next one should be called...
Chicken Noodle Soup.
Gotta be a dessert, and it's in alphabetical order.
Lemon Meringue is next.
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Originally Posted by DJinTX
They seem to like three word foods, so I am thinking the next one should be called...
Chicken Noodle Soup.
No, they have to be sweet deserts-like and Jelly Bean only has two words so there is no word count requirement
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Originally Posted by DJinTX
I'm not sure why their naming schemes bother me so much, but they just seem lame. I cringe every time I picture their executives in a board room brainstorming new OS nicknames.
Oh well, instead of fighting it, maybe I should just help them out for the next one. They seem to like three word foods, so I am thinking the next one should be called...
Chicken Noodle Soup.
Or maybe Anus Fruit Shake
oh sorry, wrong site
I have a galaxy nexus and I didn't get an update for Jelly Bean until last month. MONTHS after it was released and I have a Nexus!! You know why? because a Canadian nexus isn't a real nexus, the update comes from Samsung, not Google. How long will I have to wait for KLP?
An on my 4S? I can install iOS6 the very same day it was released.
How does that work for you? (Seriously curious here, not smart-ass…
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
Incompatibility with all existing devices.
Yeah, just like the new iPhone connector.
23.7% are on ICS and 1.8% are on JB. ICS might even hit 25% a full year later.
JB still isn't as secure as iOS 5, but it's very close as Google made significant updates. ICS is way begin iOS 5. GB is pathetic.
DaHarder, you should educate yourself on how Android works. The reason Apps work is because developers are coding for Froyo (API level 8) or GB (API levels 9 & 10). Nobody codes for ICS or JB (API 15 & 16) since they'd have a much smaller market of potential devices (customers) to sell to. Android Apps are NOT backward compatible. An App coded for ICS will not run on a GB device. They are forward compatible, so Apps written for Froyo will run on any device up to JB.
So you get a JB phone and you're stuck running Apps that use NONE of the new API's of JB since your App is using a SUBSET of API's by targeting an older version (like Froyo).
What's the point of having all those new API's if you can't find any Apps that use them?
Meanwhile iOS 6 hit 60% of phone and 40% of tablets in less than 2 weeks. If I'm a developer I can code using the new iOS 6 API's and even a 3GS will run my App. I also know 60% of users can buy my App and that number will climb much higher in the coming months.
Android is a mess.
Originally Posted by Mike Eggleston
How does that work for you? (Seriously curious here, not smart-ass…
Far better than I imagined it would! Yeah, it's slowish. Not nearly as slow as they'd have you believe. Every once in a while, you have to reboot because of a memory leak somewhere, but it speeds right back up once you do.