How many markets/carriers is the iPhone 5 on? Surely that counts as a 'world phone'. Why is LTE fragmentation such an issue now for those who are interested in Android phones, whereas last year the when iP4S came out it wasn't?
It's not an issue for most Android users, or most users in general. And indeed it is a minus against the Nexus 4 for some users. But for me it's not.
But I travel alot. When I bought my HTC phone last year, I could have got an HTC with LTE, or an LG with LTE from my carrier. Instead I opted for an HTC with dual band HSPA+ 42. My real world speeds are 10-20 mbps, which is faster than the broadband cable I have at home. Plus, whenever I go to South America, Europe, or Asia, I get full connectivity (assuming the proper SIM card and service of course).
Honestly, I wish carriers would have put more effort into HSPA+ (whose theoretical speeds are just as high as LTE), or WiMAX. LTE is designed to lock in users, WiMAX would have been the democratic choice (hence why WiMAX is most popular in developing countries, and was axed in the US).
Wireless charging = need wire (for the charger) AND the charger!
Doesn’t do it for me.
So wired chargers need just a wire and not a charger? Huh? Where does the wire plug into?
Wireless charging is a bit gimicky, but if the feature doesnt cost any more, it is nice to just plop your phone down on a surface instead of fiddling with wires that will eventually wear out.
Your right. Just plopping it down on a surface is definitely easier. Where do I plop it down in the car (because using it for GPS driving directions eats batteries in any device)? Where do I plop it down in my hotel room? I still need the cable and adapters when I travel. So yes it's a cool feature, but only at home and office (which would probably suit a wide range of users). However, I don't see this as the direction of things to come.
If you play a 1920x1080p video at 1:1 (meaning no stretching or scaling) on both the Nexus 10 and an iPad 3 this is the actual size of the "movie" on your screen.
iPad: 7.265" x 4.1" = 29 square inches.
Nexus: 6.4" x 3.6" = 23 square inches.
They should have stuck with a 1920x1080 screen instead. Still very high resolution and good enough for any Apps you'e ever want to run. And if you're into watching movies you can at least use the entire screen. 2560x1600 is such an odd size.
It's good for the spec whores to say they've got the highest resolution screen, but that's about it.
If you play a 1920x1080p video at 1:1 (meaning no stretching or scaling) on both the Nexus 10 and an iPad 3 this is the actual size of the "movie" on your screen.
iPad: 7.265" x 4.1" = 29 square inches.
Nexus: 6.4" x 3.6" = 23 square inches.
They should have stuck with a 1920x1080 screen instead. Still very high resolution and good enough for any Apps you'e ever want to run. And if you're into watching movies you can at least use the entire screen. 2560x1600 is such an odd size.
It's good for the spec whores to say they've got the highest resolution screen, but that's about it.
Just wait until we see the performance of that GPU and battery life from playing a 1080p movie. I'm guessing the iPad (4) will win.
This is what I think too. But the nexus would had probably beat the iPad 3 by a small margin. Now we know why Apple release the iPad 4 by surprise.
I hope they hope we get to see comparisons with the iPad (3), too. My guess is that it wouldn't be as efficient, but that 32nm on the Nexus 10 compared to 45nm on the iPad (3) would allow for Google to make the Nexus 10 performance much higher for a similar power draw, but I still can't rule out the iPad (3) still being a better performer after the repeated lackluster efforts with GPU performance from Android-based devices over the years.
If you play a 1920x1080p video at 1:1 (meaning no stretching or scaling) on both the Nexus 10 and an iPad 3 this is the actual size of the "movie" on your screen.
That makes no sense at all. Why would anyone watch Video without scaling? I watch 720p video on my TV all the time. It would be silly to watch it in small box in the middle of the screen and not scale to fit the screen.
Watching 16:9 (scaled like a normal person) video on the Nexus 10 will be a little bigger. Who cares. The Nexus 10 has some nice specs, no biggie.
There is more to this than spec-sheet/Price.
At $400 it hasn't generated anywhere near the buzz the $200 Nexus did. It is just too close in price and capability to a 4th Gen iPad, which has the mindshare, and a hugely more robust ecosystem.
Google's plan is to suck all the hardware profits out of the Android ecosystem and go for maximum volume. And these manufacturers are too stupid to understand that basic goal
What are the alternatives?
It's either Google or license Microsoft's even tighter conditions or try and go toe-to-toe with Apple in an ecosystem. Not going to happen.
Who said anything about "Flagship" models!"? What a pathetic excuse. Apple doesn't have a flagship model, just an iPhone. It has LTE. Nexus does not have LTE.
apple has iphone 4
apple has iphone 4s
apple has iphone 5
one of those is the flagship. Do you know which one?
Sorry but Red Oak is absolutely right! Google, along with Amazon, are quickly driving innovative markets like smartphones and tablets to commodity status. The hardware manufacturers are idiots to let this happen as it also destroys their own margins / branded opportunities in the process. Its the same thing that MSFT did to the PC industry - no one makes money!!!!! Except in the wintel world, MSFT. It doesn't take a business genius to see this. Meanwhile, Google is stealing our own personal data, making billions off of us, while not compensating us, and while invading our privacy. Meanwhile they destroy other companies as they sell these products at a loss, just like Amazon.
What Microsoft accomplished, was to make computing affords affordable to billions.
This is the 175 post or there about about Android on your glorious Apple forum. For people who are nto interested in Android you guys sure discuss it a lot.
No one cares if you don't like the new Android devices... no one is forcing you to buy them. However if you do... enjoy them as that is what they are there for.
As I look in my review mirror I can barely see Apple anymore...... enjoy playing catch up.
This is the 175 post or there about about Android on your glorious Apple forum. For people who are nto interested in Android you guys sure discuss it a lot.
No one cares if you don't like the new Android devices... no one is forcing you to buy them. However if you do... enjoy them as that is what they are there for.
As I look in my review mirror I can barely see Apple anymore...... enjoy playing catch up.
So the Verge knocked the 4S for not having LTE, yet they devote a whole column to explain why the Nexus 4 doesn't have LTE. And people still claim these tech sites don't have an anti-Apple bias?
LOL that article makes absolutely no sense. The iPhone 5 is (soon going to be) available unlocked with LTE, in a form compatible with all US carriers. It's "pure" -- not hobbled with any carrier garbage. Apple can do it. Why can't Google? This article sounds like an excuse.
So did Jelly Bean fix the latency issues that are a main reason Android is such a piece of shit OS? Did Google deliver on their promised low-latency audio, at least?
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Originally Posted by sennen
How many markets/carriers is the iPhone 5 on? Surely that counts as a 'world phone'. Why is LTE fragmentation such an issue now for those who are interested in Android phones, whereas last year the when iP4S came out it wasn't?
It's not an issue for most Android users, or most users in general. And indeed it is a minus against the Nexus 4 for some users. But for me it's not.
But I travel alot. When I bought my HTC phone last year, I could have got an HTC with LTE, or an LG with LTE from my carrier. Instead I opted for an HTC with dual band HSPA+ 42. My real world speeds are 10-20 mbps, which is faster than the broadband cable I have at home. Plus, whenever I go to South America, Europe, or Asia, I get full connectivity (assuming the proper SIM card and service of course).
Honestly, I wish carriers would have put more effort into HSPA+ (whose theoretical speeds are just as high as LTE), or WiMAX. LTE is designed to lock in users, WiMAX would have been the democratic choice (hence why WiMAX is most popular in developing countries, and was axed in the US).
Ha, I was right.
If you play a 1920x1080p video at 1:1 (meaning no stretching or scaling) on both the Nexus 10 and an iPad 3 this is the actual size of the "movie" on your screen.
iPad: 7.265" x 4.1" = 29 square inches.
Nexus: 6.4" x 3.6" = 23 square inches.
They should have stuck with a 1920x1080 screen instead. Still very high resolution and good enough for any Apps you'e ever want to run. And if you're into watching movies you can at least use the entire screen. 2560x1600 is such an odd size.
It's good for the spec whores to say they've got the highest resolution screen, but that's about it.
Just wait until we see the performance of that GPU and battery life from playing a 1080p movie. I'm guessing the iPad (4) will win.
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Originally Posted by SolipsismX
Just wait until we see the performance of that GPU and battery life from playing a 1080p movie. I'm guessing the iPad (4) will win.
This is what I think too. But the nexus would had probably beat the iPad 3 by a small margin. Now we know why Apple release the iPad 4 by surprise.
I hope they hope we get to see comparisons with the iPad (3), too. My guess is that it wouldn't be as efficient, but that 32nm on the Nexus 10 compared to 45nm on the iPad (3) would allow for Google to make the Nexus 10 performance much higher for a similar power draw, but I still can't rule out the iPad (3) still being a better performer after the repeated lackluster efforts with GPU performance from Android-based devices over the years.
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Originally Posted by EricTheHalfBee
If you play a 1920x1080p video at 1:1 (meaning no stretching or scaling) on both the Nexus 10 and an iPad 3 this is the actual size of the "movie" on your screen.
That makes no sense at all. Why would anyone watch Video without scaling? I watch 720p video on my TV all the time. It would be silly to watch it in small box in the middle of the screen and not scale to fit the screen.
Watching 16:9 (scaled like a normal person) video on the Nexus 10 will be a little bigger. Who cares. The Nexus 10 has some nice specs, no biggie.
There is more to this than spec-sheet/Price.
At $400 it hasn't generated anywhere near the buzz the $200 Nexus did. It is just too close in price and capability to a 4th Gen iPad, which has the mindshare, and a hugely more robust ecosystem.
What are the alternatives?
It's either Google or license Microsoft's even tighter conditions or try and go toe-to-toe with Apple in an ecosystem. Not going to happen.
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Originally Posted by sennen
Who said anything about "Flagship" models!"? What a pathetic excuse. Apple doesn't have a flagship model, just an iPhone. It has LTE. Nexus does not have LTE.
apple has iphone 4
apple has iphone 4s
apple has iphone 5
one of those is the flagship. Do you know which one?
What Microsoft accomplished, was to make computing affords affordable to billions.
Google may pull off the same with Android.
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Originally Posted by cycomiko
apple has iphone 4
apple has iphone 4s
apple has iphone 5
one of those is the flagship. Do you know which one?
Incorrect. iPhone 5 is the current model. The 4S and 4 are superseded models.
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Originally Posted by fuwafuwa
Do you prefer buying turd because it's cheaper than donut?
I may prefer a powdered donut because it is cheaper than a glazed donut.
This is the 175 post or there about about Android on your glorious Apple forum. For people who are nto interested in Android you guys sure discuss it a lot.
No one cares if you don't like the new Android devices... no one is forcing you to buy them. However if you do... enjoy them as that is what they are there for.
As I look in my review mirror I can barely see Apple anymore...... enjoy playing catch up.
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Originally Posted by petrosy
This is the 175 post or there about about Android on your glorious Apple forum. For people who are nto interested in Android you guys sure discuss it a lot.
No one cares if you don't like the new Android devices... no one is forcing you to buy them. However if you do... enjoy them as that is what they are there for.
As I look in my review mirror I can barely see Apple anymore...... enjoy playing catch up.
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Originally Posted by sennen
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Oh, didn't hear this in yeeeeears.
Now your username makes sense.
very cheap. probably zero margin.
Google entering money losing business like amazon kindle fire.
Can apple survive ?
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Originally Posted by Rogifan
Can't stand their cheap brushed aluminum looking plastic.
Your poor prioritisation skills will ultimately lead you to an Apple device. Well deserved I might add.
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Originally Posted by Rogifan
So the Verge knocked the 4S for not having LTE, yet they devote a whole column to explain why the Nexus 4 doesn't have LTE. And people still claim these tech sites don't have an anti-Apple bias?
http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/29/3569688/why-nexus-4-does-not-have-4g-lte
LOL that article makes absolutely no sense. The iPhone 5 is (soon going to be) available unlocked with LTE, in a form compatible with all US carriers. It's "pure" -- not hobbled with any carrier garbage. Apple can do it. Why can't Google? This article sounds like an excuse.
So did Jelly Bean fix the latency issues that are a main reason Android is such a piece of shit OS? Did Google deliver on their promised low-latency audio, at least?