Only 60% worldwide? I call absolute b-s. I was traveling in Europe a couple of weeks ago, and was stunned to see that iPads are **everywhere** -- airport lounges, airplanes, cafes, restaurants, offices, hotel lobbies...... Not an Android to be found (or perhaps it's because Android owners are too ashamed to show it in public).
I am in Latin America this week, and it's exactly the same thing.
I wonder if that dude who got fired from Apple could get the CEO position at Microsoft? Forestal could clean the mess at MSFT... except that he has a difficult personality. I would love to see that, than pile on MSFT stock.
Only 60% worldwide? I call absolute b-s. I was traveling in Europe a couple of weeks ago, and was stunned to see that iPads are **everywhere** -- airport lounges, airplanes, cafes, restaurants, offices, hotel lobbies...... Not an Android to be found (or perhaps it's because Android owners are too ashamed to show it in public).
I am in Latin America this week, and it's exactly the same thing.
I've been saying that too. It's the same with MBPs too, Apple logos glowing every where with the odd Dell hiding in the corner now and then.
Had Ballmer had the success of Apple that he said he was content without, Microsoft would have sold around 14 million copies in the first four days.
Yes, but they don't want to tell you that 4 Million number includes all the PC's built by Dell, HP, etc etc, that had to be updated that were sitting in stock. I mean, other ones I can think of are corporations IT Departments to update their labs to see how much work they will have to do in next year or two to roll out those win8 systems to general use. Not to mention all the training places, the schools, etc, to "comply" with MS requirements. Also, they are probably adding in all the "shipped" not sold ones as well.
Here is a great example, Toyota to Honda, and the old Camry Vs. Civic...Toyota sells to rent-a-car type places, and Honda does not. So Toyota includes the "fleet" sales into all the numbers, so they have more sold. But in reality, more people own Honda's... it's all about how you spin it... that is all.
I was at a conference of IT executives last week (the annual Gartner Symposium) and at the keynote they predicted that through 2014, 90% of enterprise users will NOT upgrade to Windows 8. How the mighty have fallen.
Balmer prefers Microsoft's business model to Apple's. Guess he prefers selling more to earn less too. If Apple is the low volume player, that would make Microsoft a low profit player. As an investor, I prefer the latter. I bet Ballmer would too.
Yes, Apple is making all the profit. Buy/sell Apple stocks and use the profit to buy iphones/ipads.
The transition phase of a large company once the founder departs is often a tricky one. It appears that Apple is, thus far, a lot more successful than MS.
Ballmer is desperately trying to make his company look relevant in light of Ballmer's failures to capitalize on the growing mobile and social media markets.
Especially shocking on the social media front, considering they were the first really major investor to take a stake in Facebook (1.6% for $250M, way back), and they've owned Skype -- a superb product with a massive user base -- for a couple of years now.
And absolutely nothing to show for it. What a sad joke.
I was at a conference of IT executives last week (the annual Gartner Symposium) and at the keynote they predicted that through 2014, 90% of enterprise users will NOT upgrade to Windows 8. How the mighty have fallen.
This is the (random) word of mouth that I've heard too. If so, this'll be Vista all over again.
I was at a conference of IT executives last week (the annual Gartner Symposium) and at the keynote they predicted that through 2014, 90% of enterprise users will NOT upgrade to Windows 8. How the mighty have fallen.
Um, they should have some follow up questions about windows7. A lot of large companies try to stay 1 version behind for MS to iron out all the bugs. Many are in the process of upgrading to 7 and some are just got the 7 upgrade done. Definitely 90% won't upgrade for another 2-3 years or so. MS knows the upgrade cycle of the big corporations and have the support period designed around it.
On the other hand, most Apple customers are end users who can't wait to get the latest and greatest.
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I am in Latin America this week, and it's exactly the same thing.
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Originally Posted by Kibitzer
I wonder if he was wearing a set of Halloween season contacts. You know - the ones with the glow-in-the-dark irises.
nope, just high
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Originally Posted by hypoluxa
There's this river in Egypt..called Denial...
fermented kool-aid is running in it
Too bad Cook kept Forestal hogtied as an advisor.
I've been saying that too. It's the same with MBPs too, Apple logos glowing every where with the odd Dell hiding in the corner now and then.
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Originally Posted by BrianCPA
Computers running Windows 7: 40%
Computers running OS X: 8.5%
First 4 days:
Upgrades to Windows 8: 4 million
Upgrades to Mountain Lion: 3 million
Had Ballmer had the success of Apple that he said he was content without, Microsoft would have sold around 14 million copies in the first four days.
Yes, but they don't want to tell you that 4 Million number includes all the PC's built by Dell, HP, etc etc, that had to be updated that were sitting in stock. I mean, other ones I can think of are corporations IT Departments to update their labs to see how much work they will have to do in next year or two to roll out those win8 systems to general use. Not to mention all the training places, the schools, etc, to "comply" with MS requirements. Also, they are probably adding in all the "shipped" not sold ones as well.
Here is a great example, Toyota to Honda, and the old Camry Vs. Civic...Toyota sells to rent-a-car type places, and Honda does not. So Toyota includes the "fleet" sales into all the numbers, so they have more sold. But in reality, more people own Honda's... it's all about how you spin it... that is all.
this explains a lot. wow
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Originally Posted by KPOM
If Apple is a "low volume" player in smartphones, what does that make Microsoft?
A winner:
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Originally Posted by macaholic_1948
Balmer prefers Microsoft's business model to Apple's. Guess he prefers selling more to earn less too. If Apple is the low volume player, that would make Microsoft a low profit player. As an investor, I prefer the latter. I bet Ballmer would too.
Yes, Apple is making all the profit. Buy/sell Apple stocks and use the profit to buy iphones/ipads.
The transition phase of a large company once the founder departs is often a tricky one. It appears that Apple is, thus far, a lot more successful than MS.
Especially shocking on the social media front, considering they were the first really major investor to take a stake in Facebook (1.6% for $250M, way back), and they've owned Skype -- a superb product with a massive user base -- for a couple of years now.
And absolutely nothing to show for it. What a sad joke.
There is no denying that Steve Ballmer is a high volume person - in body mass and vocally.
Apple users dismiss Steve Ballmer as a high-maintenance idiot.
Sad to see that he has lost touch with reality and is still fighting mental health.
This is the (random) word of mouth that I've heard too. If so, this'll be Vista all over again.
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Originally Posted by malax
I was at a conference of IT executives last week (the annual Gartner Symposium) and at the keynote they predicted that through 2014, 90% of enterprise users will NOT upgrade to Windows 8. How the mighty have fallen.
Um, they should have some follow up questions about windows7. A lot of large companies try to stay 1 version behind for MS to iron out all the bugs. Many are in the process of upgrading to 7 and some are just got the 7 upgrade done. Definitely 90% won't upgrade for another 2-3 years or so. MS knows the upgrade cycle of the big corporations and have the support period designed around it.
On the other hand, most Apple customers are end users who can't wait to get the latest and greatest.