iPad mini carving new demand from the hide of PC sales more than existing iPads

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  • Reply 21 of 49

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    Originally Posted by elroth View Post


    Not where I am - 16GB for $425, 64GB for $540. It seems like you're the only one in the world who can get that price - congratulations on whatever it is you really bought.





    I checked the San Diego area and they are listed between 450 to 500 for the 64GB.

  • Reply 22 of 49
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
    sflocal wrote: »

    I looked at those ads (for San Francisco) for a bit to check out your theory.  Looks to me like the ones selling them hoarded them with the hopes of making a profit off the backs of "desperate" buyers.  I'm crying a river for them that gambled, and lost.


    Just because it's on Craigslist, I could care less if the mini's are in sealed, unopened boxes.  They better literally give them away at a steep discount if I am to even consider meeting them (and the safety issue) as opposed to buying it at a legitimate retailer.


    I have no sympathy for them.  Sounds like you scored a decent deal given a 64GB mini runs $529, tack on tax after that.  Good for you!


    Edit:  I looked even more closely at the Craigslist ads in SF.  There are the few that are trying to gouge folks that want one now.  The others that I see seem to want to unload them for the same price as Apple's price + tax.


    I'm beginning to wonder the legitimacy of the above poster.  Either he got a seriously good deal among the masses, or the rest of his post was simply trying to give the impression that no one is buying minis which is flat-out wrong.

    One can get lucky on craigslist in more ways than one lol, but as far as electronics go you have to practically live on there or check it at the right time to find a bargain.
  • Reply 23 of 49

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    Originally Posted by stynkfysh View Post



    What is interesting to me is that iPad mini's are on Craigslist for well under Apple's sale price already, and there are a ton of them. This usually takes a while with Apple stuff, but not the iPad Mini. An acquaintance of mine, who buys and sells tech stuff at launch, bought a boat load of Mini's at launch and has since returned them to the Apple store. Apparently he couldn't sell them for what he bought them for. So, my question is, given that the findings of this survey are accurate, how many iPad Mini's are we actually talking about? - how many people are actually buying these things? I bought a 64GB iPad Mini off Craigslist for $450 today...




    You're full of shit.

  • Reply 24 of 49
    iPad + iPad mini + Windows 8 = Beginning of death of the PC era.
  • Reply 25 of 49
    mstonemstone Posts: 11,510member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by stynkfysh View Post



    What is interesting to me is that iPad mini's are on Craigslist for well under Apple's sale price already, and there are a ton of them. This usually takes a while with Apple stuff, but not the iPad Mini. An acquaintance of mine, who buys and sells tech stuff at launch, bought a boat load of Mini's at launch and has since returned them to the Apple store. Apparently he couldn't sell them for what he bought them for. So, my question is, given that the findings of this survey are accurate, how many iPad Mini's are we actually talking about? - how many people are actually buying these things? I bought a 64GB iPad Mini off Craigslist for $450 today...


    Lets see a screen capture of the specs.


     


    I see a few under priced ads on my Craigslist but I suspect they are all scams judging how they are written and no photo or details provided. The other legitimate looking ads are all asking substantially more than list price. Seeing that there is apparently no out of stock conditions that I'm aware of, it is a pretty fair bet that you can't beat Apple's price unless it is stolen which is probably why your acquaintance could not make a profit reselling them, if he even exists.

  • Reply 26 of 49
    MacProMacPro Posts: 19,787member
    solipsismx wrote: »
    If accurate this isn't a good sign for Windows or Win OEMs.

    And this after the Surface surfaced!
  • Reply 27 of 49
    Some are saying they've bought online and they receive just a mirror.
  • Reply 28 of 49


    It actually makes sense. I see some people just get a dumb phone when their contract is up and use the iPad mini for everything else. Why get a new iPhone and a new tablet?  You skip the data fees too unless you want them for the month.

  • Reply 29 of 49


    A lot of Windows folks I know are frustrated with Windows 8. It's a ridiculous user interface. Messaging crashes and to close a program you have to drag it to the bottom of the screen? Do they realize the kind of dexterity and education that requires? I've been using computers for longer than I care to admit and worked in UI/UX firm and still couldn't figure that out, nor fathom how anyone though it was a good idea.

  • Reply 30 of 49
    jeffdmjeffdm Posts: 12,953member
    maccherry wrote: »
    You think the mini is crazy hot now just wait until it goes retina display and A 6 chip endowed next year.

    I played with one at a store tonight. I don't think the lack of Retina on the mini is that big of a deal like it was for the regular model, it still looks very nice.
  • Reply 31 of 49

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    Originally Posted by Mac_128 View Post



    Interesting that 8% said they would replace a smartphone. How, VOIP? Either way that could theoretically cut into iPod sales as well.



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    Many people don't need a smartphone. Lots of people like a prepaid phone for voice calls and texting, and would like to then add the iPad mini for everything else their smartphone may do but at too small a form factor for them.


     


    The iPad mini doesn't have to make calls. A feature phone can do that. And then the iPad mini will satisfy their desire/need for a bigger "smartphone" without the phone.


     


    I've seen this being asked for numerous times over the last couple of years.


     


    Now they have it.

  • Reply 32 of 49
    adamcadamc Posts: 583member

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    Originally Posted by Macky the Macky View Post


     


    I was thinking that same thing... If people are seeing the iPad mini as being more desirable than the dusty dinosaur they have, then Microsoft has lost the battle for the consumer's mind already; the Surface RT is too beta and too late. It will only get worse as the holiday season plays itself out. 


     


    On the other side of this story; that people are buying the iPad Mini to upgrade from the Kindle Fire is saying a lot about the sweet spot where the iPad Mini is sitting. It's gonna be a very merry Christmas!


     


    Remember boys and girls, if you get a slab of black plastic in your stocking, You've been a very bad child!



    The funny thing is only anti Apple tech bloggers praised and loved RT and I believe they wouldn't touch RT with a ten foot pole.

  • Reply 33 of 49
    I am hurt by the lack of trust in my declared purchase! Not really, but it was a true purchase price I reported. New and sealed. I bought it through San Diego Craigslist. Most people are listing at price gauging numbers, true. That doesn't mean they are selling at those prices. About 1 in 10 listings in San Diego are for $29 less than retail for the iPad mini, I just got the exceptional deal at $450. There was another 64GB listed for $475 at the same time though. Was the iPad bought with a stolen credit card? Or through some other nefarious means? That I cannot say. It registers with Apple just fine if that is any indication.
  • Reply 34 of 49
    jnjnjnjnjnjn Posts: 588member

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    Originally Posted by LuxoM3 View Post


    As a technology user... you really CAN'T live without a notebook/desktop PC/Mac... a tablet just doesn't do enough computing.


    Yes apps and mobile sites help, but there are times when we all put down the tablet, and grab the notebook... first thing that comes to mind... home finances, heavy word processing, work-related office docs...



     


    No (even better on the iPad), no and no.


     


    J.

  • Reply 35 of 49
    wingswings Posts: 261member
    I see Craigslist ads in Greensboro, NC for 16GB Minis going for 400 to 500. A few are cheaper and a couple are below retail. Saw one 32GB going for 400, 29 below retail. The vast majority are selling for over retail.
  • Reply 36 of 49

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    Originally Posted by JeffDM View Post





    I played with one at a store tonight. I don't think the lack of Retina on the mini is that big of a deal like it was for the regular model, it still looks very nice.




    Just as everyone thought the original iPad had a nice screen.


     


    You forget about the superiority of the Retina Display once you start using the Mini. Particularly since it is soooooo easy to handle. Even with the smartcover, it is not thicker than a notepad, and it's so light.


     


    I'd never think of it as a replacement for my laptop (Windows or Mac) but I don't even remember or care where my iPad3 is.

  • Reply 37 of 49
    [QUOTE name="jnjnjn" url="/t/154302/ipad-mini-carving-new-demand-from-the-hide-of-pc-sales-more-than-existing-ipads#post_2232800"]
     

    [QUOTE name="LuxoM3" url="http://forums.appleinsider.com/t/154302/ipad-mini-carving-new-demand-from-the-hide-of-pc-sales-more-than-existing-ipads#post_2232626"]
    As a technology user... you really CAN'T live without a notebook/desktop PC/Mac... a tablet just doesn't do enough computing.
    Yes apps and mobile sites help, but there are times when we all put down the tablet, and grab the notebook... first thing that comes to mind... home finances, heavy word processing, work-related office docs...
    [/QUOTE]


    No (even better on the iPad), no and no.

    J.
    [/QUOTE]

    Yes. Yes. Yes. The iPad (or Mini) is great.
  • Reply 38 of 49
    rogifanrogifan Posts: 10,669member
    Well according to this USA Today survey 1/3 of Windows XP, Vista and 7 users say they intend to switch to an Apple product.

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2012/11/14/poll-shows-us-consumers-hesitant-windows-8/1700585/
  • Reply 39 of 49

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    Originally Posted by Rogifan View Post



    Well according to this USA Today survey 1/3 of Windows XP, Vista and 7 users say they intend to switch to an Apple product.

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2012/11/14/poll-shows-us-consumers-hesitant-windows-8/1700585/




    I believe that.


     


    At work, I only allow some people to use Macs. This is because the applications we need only run on Windows or Linux, and because we can get cheaper machines on both OSes. But if these apps ran smoothly on Parallels and the cost of Parallels+Apple was not so much higher, I'd seriously consider allowing everyone to move to Apple.


     


    As it is, we are seriously considering replacing 1/3 of the machines with iPads once we port the data entry apps to something web-based (so that we can continue doing it on any platform, including iOS).

  • Reply 40 of 49


    If one does not assume that the whole world use PC in the same manner as himself, it is easy to understand why many Windows PCs users intend to switch to tablets.


     


    Who cannot live without Windows PC?




    (1) Serious gamers


    (2) Corporate users who must have Excel and Winword.  Winword is rather easy to replace over time.  Excel is tough.


    (3) Corporate users who use in-house applications


    (4) People who due to their business/professions must use windows applications.


    (5) Individuals with special interests in programming, video editing, and are already proficient with windows applications.


     


    (6) And then, there are the rest of the world, (I think probably the majority of people), due to lack of choices previously, simply go out to buy a Windows PC with the slightest idea of what they would use the PC for.  These people just ended up doing some emails, surfing, watching Youtube and using some social applications.


     


    For the above usage, they ended up paying more for hardware/software, got windows PCs that need regular maintenance.


    I know of many people who could not locate files they downloaded and have the faintest idea about installation and setting up of hardware/software.


    Or maybe they are simply not interested?  Because some of these people I know are rather smart and professional in their own fields.


     


    Why won't they jump to tablets?  It's cheaper, it's portable, there is nothing to maintain, they can do their emailing, surfing, watch youtube and do facebook/twitter.


    And now they will have lots of free games and apps to play with.


     


    And there are people who still haven't bought a PC for themselves, probably sharing with family members, why would they buy a windows PC instead of a cheaper and more portable tablet?


     


    I am not at all surprised that many people will choose a tablet over a windows PC, especially for group (6).

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