Why stick with a set-top box when even in *this* segment, Apple can design and release a complete turn-key solution - hardware AND software?
Apple software running on someone else's non-Apple branded and non-Apple designed hardware makes no sense as a long-term strategy. It is not a solution. Treat the TV like any other device to be re-imagined. The "computer" itself, MP3 players, phones, tablets, and now TVs. Same deal. Just another device to re-make.
Exactly. But you're in the wrong forum, because most people around here, not including me, will disagree with that comment.
An Apple branded TV makes a lot of sense to me - but Apple likes to disrupt and a new set doesn't disrupt anything. A new Apple television set will come when the content side is work out. Hardware / content / user experience - when those element are all under Apple's control, it will be announced. I suspect that the HW and SW is waiting in the wings as we speak. And I totally agree with the headline - a set is 'more in tune' with Apple than a set-top box, no matter how much most people on AI rationalise otherwise.
Can't embed this on iPad. God, I hate this forum software.
Apple would never be stupid enough to go down the route of forcing people to buy a television in order to get their solution. But I do see them offering two solutions. One would be something like the current ATV, the other would be a fully integrated television set. Whatever they do I don't see them coming out with anything until they can really do something different.
Yeah, I expect them to continue to sell the little box, but it will never get an App Store, like the TV.
Please tell me why I would purchase a $2,000 product that does the exact same thing as a $99 product, and I don't have to dispose of my old television with the latter.
1. It'll start at less than $2,000.
2. If they have a contract setup, it could cost more like $499.
3 The box won't have an App Store.
Pros: Apple's TV would be simpler than most set-top boxes and their ridiculously busy remotes.
Cons: You'll want to buy a new TV very year, once the upgrade treadmill begins.
I love that phrase, "the upgrade treadmill". Classic! I'm stealing that.
yep, they sure have, for about 5 years now they keep showing the same minimalist TV behind their product on their own website.
AI, don't you get it? It's not going to look like the Thunderbolt display, it's not going to look like the iMac. It probably won't look like that thing on the Apple TV website either. However, that image has darken the Webiste for at least 5 years now. So they must have some idea what Apple thinks their TV should look like.
I maintain that the iPad mini was a terrible idea.
Very few people, who aren't Android fanboys, will agree with that statement. When you've lots of well known a Apple bloggers saying this is the better iPad form factor, you should pay attention. MG, Gruber, the lot of them prefer the mini. Tim Cook said one of Steve's gifts was his ability to change his mind. I think you should rethink your view on this. Do I expect you to? No. But you may surprise me.
Sad fact is there's nothing sexy about a $100 set top box. Unles Apple comes up with something so mind blowing it will be a collective ho-hum from the market. I'd love a TV solution where the only cord I have is a power cord for the TV. And no other clutter. Someone please invent that.
Me too, buddy. Me too. It's bad out there. Apple, save us.
I'd vote your comment up but this forum doesn't work right on a iPad. Worst forum redesign in history? Possibly.
Eh? Use the mobile site.
Originally Posted by Ireland
When you've lots of well known a Apple bloggers saying this is the better iPad form factor, you should pay attention.
Why? Who cares what they think?
Tim Cook said one of Steve's gifts was his ability to change his mind. I think you should rethink your view on this. Do I expect you to? No. But you may surprise me.
I still see no purpose served better by a smaller tablet that can't go in a pocket. I'll change my mind when it has a reason for existing.
I still see no purpose served better by a smaller tablet that can't go in a pocket. I'll change my mind when it has a reason for existing.
My girlfriend likes the iPad, but finds it slightly too large and decidedly too heavy. "I wish Apple made a smaller iPad", she says, one day. Now she owns an iPad mini. Are you getting it, yet?
Yes, I concur, the mobile site sucks ass.
If you really want to know why, pm me.
Who ever designed it probably got their web designer training from a crackerjack box.
Why do you keep saying this? I can't imagine anything further from reality. Apple is selling its ecosystem. The box would be offered specifically for mostly non-Apple customers who want their TV solution. What better way to introduce them to their ecosystem? It's like putting iTunes on Windows. apple could care less if you buy their TV, they want you to buy their services -- that's the whole reason the iPad mini exists.
Why do you keep saying this? I can't imagine anything further from reality. Apple is selling its ecosystem. The box would be offered specifically for mostly non-Apple customers who want their TV solution. What better way to introduce them to their ecosystem? It's like putting iTunes on Windows. apple could care less if you buy their TV, they want you to buy their services -- that's the whole reason the iPad mini exists.
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Exactly. But you're in the wrong forum, because most people around here, not including me, will disagree with that comment.
Can't embed this on iPad. God, I hate this forum software.
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Yeah, I expect them to continue to sell the little box, but it will never get an App Store, like the TV.
1. It'll start at less than $2,000.
2. If they have a contract setup, it could cost more like $499.
3 The box won't have an App Store.
That's the worst argument I've ever heard.
Originally Posted by Ireland
2. If they have a contract setup, it could cost more like $499.
3 The box won't have an App Store.
A TV on contract is a worse future than the present.
A TV couldn't use an App Store.
I love that phrase, "the upgrade treadmill". Classic! I'm stealing that.
Time will tell will be written on your gravestone you say it so much.
Haha, totally. I'd vote your comment up but this forum doesn't work right on a iPad. Worst forum redesign in history? Possibly.
Both are Pioneer panels.
Very few people, who aren't Android fanboys, will agree with that statement. When you've lots of well known a Apple bloggers saying this is the better iPad form factor, you should pay attention. MG, Gruber, the lot of them prefer the mini. Tim Cook said one of Steve's gifts was his ability to change his mind. I think you should rethink your view on this. Do I expect you to? No. But you may surprise me.
Me too, buddy. Me too. It's bad out there. Apple, save us.
Originally Posted by Ireland
I'd vote your comment up but this forum doesn't work right on a iPad. Worst forum redesign in history? Possibly.
Eh? Use the mobile site.
Originally Posted by Ireland
When you've lots of well known a Apple bloggers saying this is the better iPad form factor, you should pay attention.
Why? Who cares what they think?
Tim Cook said one of Steve's gifts was his ability to change his mind. I think you should rethink your view on this. Do I expect you to? No. But you may surprise me.
I still see no purpose served better by a smaller tablet that can't go in a pocket. I'll change my mind when it has a reason for existing.
My girlfriend likes the iPad, but finds it slightly too large and decidedly too heavy. "I wish Apple made a smaller iPad", she says, one day. Now she owns an iPad mini. Are you getting it, yet?
If you really want to know why, pm me.
Who ever designed it probably got their web designer training from a crackerjack box.
Originally Posted by antkm1
Yes, I concur, the mobile site sucks ass.
You're disagreeing with me.
If you really want to know why, pm me.
Why not just provide feedback…
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
I still see no purpose served better by a smaller tablet that can't go in a pocket. I'll change my mind when it has a reason for existing.
To say that the iPad Mini has no reason for existing is to say that the iPad has no reason for existing.
It really doesn't.
Why doesn't it have it now?