This is why we need bear spray-armed guards at every elementary school and Apple Store. I would feel much safer if at least 1 or 2 unknown individuals at each school and store had bear spray on their person.
I smelled pepper-spray once, from a distance, that stuff is horrible. Never experienced anything like that before.
In US Army basic training they marched us into an enclosed room filled with CS gas, first wearing gas masks then taking them off. That's when you learn the physical reaction is beyond your control. Being a tough guy is no protection from debilitation.
Thieves armed with bear spray hit the Oakridge Mall Apple Store in Vancouver just before closing in Monday, spraying roughly 40 people and making off with an unknown number of iPods, iPads, and notebooks.
<em>The National Post</em> <a href="http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/03/05/thieves-armed-with-bear-spray-rob-vancouver-apple-store/">carried</a> word of the robbery, which saw three men bearing a caustic, cayenne pepper-based chemical attack the Apple Store. There were roughly 40 customers in the store, of which five would later need treatment by paramedics for exposure to the spray. The robbers are said to have fled by car.
Most of the valuable Apple electronics are likely to have been out of reach of the robbers, as Apple Stores keep most stock in hidden storage rooms behind closed doors. Vancouver police say that the thieves made off with only "a small number of electronics."
There are quite a few de-sensitising solutions available for tear gas and mace already. My cousin in the French police tells me de-censitising is standard for riot squads.
This is actually true. I volunteer on the DTES (the drug infested part of Vancouver) and it's well known that the majority of crimes are committed for the purpose of getting money to buy drugs. Same thing with prostitution.
A drug "pusher" (who will work for organized crime like the Hell's Angels here or Mafia in other cities) wants to have as many "customers" as possible. Once a person is addicted then that pusher (and his boss) now has a customer that will bring them in a guaranteed $100-300 per day, every day, for the rest of their life until they OD and die, go to prison, or get treatment for their addiction (the least likely outcome). They need to get that money somewhere and they sure aren't getting it from having a regular job.
Now I'm not for making all drugs freely available, but they could make the addictive drugs free for addicts. This would greatly reduce the income organized crime makes and also greatly reduce property crime (to pay for those drugs). And the price for these drugs wouldn't be that much of a burden on health care since they won't cost the government the same price as "street drugs" with their ridiculous profit.
Don't these idiots understand aside from the security cameras, these devices can be tracked?
And all stolen iPhones can be blocked from any GSM-based network. Cell phones are all assigned a unique IMEI number, and the theft victim (Apple in this case) can tell their carrier to "blacklist" their stolen phone so it won't work on that carrier's network. You can check your phone's IMEI number by typing *#06# on its keypad.
Again, this only works on GSM networks AFAIK. And a phone's IMEI number can actually be changed, which may explain why 10% of all IMEI numbers are supposedly not unique. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imei)
In US Army basic training they marched us into an enclosed room filled with CS gas, first wearing gas masks then taking them off. That's when you learn the physical reaction is beyond your control. Being a tough guy is no protection from debilitation.
That's tear gas and a very big difference from pepper spray.
It sounds like the logical and most practical solution, if you ask me. Those thieves should come on down to my local Apple store and pull that stunt. I doubt that they would last long.
Because crackheads and methheads are highly employable individuals with unlimited expendable income.
Most street drugs are expensive because it's illegal to have, grow/make, transport, etc. Take the illegality away and it gets cheap and crime goes down a lot. Exactly what happened when the US prohibition ended.
Most street drugs are expensive because it's illegal to have, grow/make, transport, etc. Take the illegality away and it gets cheap and crime goes down a lot. Exactly what happened when the US prohibition ended.
That's true, but even if crack costs $10, what if the crackhead or methhead doesn't have $10?
Those people will kill their own grandmother for a few bucks. I'm all for legalizing harmless, safe drugs, like weed and a few others, but stuff like meth should not be legal.
[" url="/t/156306/bear-spray-armed-thieves-rob-vancouver-apple-store/40#post_2288205"]That's true, but even if crack costs $10, what if the crackhead or methhead doesn't have $10?
Those people will kill their own grandmother for a few bucks. I'm all for legalizing harmless, safe drugs, like weed and a few others, but stuff like meth should not be legal.
It's easier to steal $10 than $1000. Generally less dangerous and less destructive for everyone too.
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We both watched the same Steven Seagal movie.
This is why we need bear spray-armed guards at every elementary school and Apple Store. I would feel much safer if at least 1 or 2 unknown individuals at each school and store had bear spray on their person.
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Originally Posted by ClemyNX
I smelled pepper-spray once, from a distance, that stuff is horrible. Never experienced anything like that before.
In US Army basic training they marched us into an enclosed room filled with CS gas, first wearing gas masks then taking them off. That's when you learn the physical reaction is beyond your control. Being a tough guy is no protection from debilitation.
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
Hmm… citation?
This is actually true. I volunteer on the DTES (the drug infested part of Vancouver) and it's well known that the majority of crimes are committed for the purpose of getting money to buy drugs. Same thing with prostitution.
A drug "pusher" (who will work for organized crime like the Hell's Angels here or Mafia in other cities) wants to have as many "customers" as possible. Once a person is addicted then that pusher (and his boss) now has a customer that will bring them in a guaranteed $100-300 per day, every day, for the rest of their life until they OD and die, go to prison, or get treatment for their addiction (the least likely outcome). They need to get that money somewhere and they sure aren't getting it from having a regular job.
Now I'm not for making all drugs freely available, but they could make the addictive drugs free for addicts. This would greatly reduce the income organized crime makes and also greatly reduce property crime (to pay for those drugs). And the price for these drugs wouldn't be that much of a burden on health care since they won't cost the government the same price as "street drugs" with their ridiculous profit.
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Originally Posted by zoetmb
As punishment, when caught, these thieves should have to listen to an Apple Genius a Microsoft Guru for 30 days straight life.
There, fixed that for you!
That's a death sentence if I've ever heard one.
Where were the undercover Apple security employees packing heat?
Don't they have those in Canada? How do you stop bear spray armed thieves? You shoot them dead, that's how.
Originally Posted by drblank
Don't these idiots understand aside from the security cameras, these devices can be tracked?
And all stolen iPhones can be blocked from any GSM-based network. Cell phones are all assigned a unique IMEI number, and the theft victim (Apple in this case) can tell their carrier to "blacklist" their stolen phone so it won't work on that carrier's network. You can check your phone's IMEI number by typing *#06# on its keypad.
Again, this only works on GSM networks AFAIK. And a phone's IMEI number can actually be changed, which may explain why 10% of all IMEI numbers are supposedly not unique. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imei)
That's tear gas and a very big difference from pepper spray.
Is that your only solution?
In America. Where was Dudley Doright?
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A more realistic answer ... ?
Make drugs legal.
Most theft stops overnight when that happens.
Because crackheads and methheads are highly employable individuals with unlimited expendable income.
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Originally Posted by dasanman69
Is that your only solution?
It sounds like the logical and most practical solution, if you ask me. Those thieves should come on down to my local Apple store and pull that stunt. I doubt that they would last long.
What else did you have in mind?
Most street drugs are expensive because it's illegal to have, grow/make, transport, etc. Take the illegality away and it gets cheap and crime goes down a lot. Exactly what happened when the US prohibition ended.
Was there a description of the robbers, or did they pull their tuques down over their faces?
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Originally Posted by JeffDM
Most street drugs are expensive because it's illegal to have, grow/make, transport, etc. Take the illegality away and it gets cheap and crime goes down a lot. Exactly what happened when the US prohibition ended.
That's true, but even if crack costs $10, what if the crackhead or methhead doesn't have $10?
Those people will kill their own grandmother for a few bucks. I'm all for legalizing harmless, safe drugs, like weed and a few others, but stuff like meth should not be legal.
It's easier to steal $10 than $1000. Generally less dangerous and less destructive for everyone too.