Apple remains 'very optimistic' about upcoming products as analysts cut targets

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  • Reply 81 of 89
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member


    Originally Posted by tkell31 View Post


    The iPhone is the driver behind Apple's success and really that was just a big improvement over products that were already on the market, it's not like Jobs came up with the idea for a smartphone.



     


    It's not like anyone claimed that, either.






    The iPad is just a variation of a laptop and a phone.



     


    *snort*






    Now they are faced with the challenge of actually inventing completely new products…



     


    Well, since they did it with the iPhone and iPad, I'm pretty sure they'll handle it.

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  • Reply 82 of 89
    melmelmelmel Posts: 46member


    No, I don't worry about innovation at Apple.  It takes a few years to develop and introduce another game-changer.


     


    But I've suggested that they bring in a 5" iPhone Pro.  Also, the iPhone 5S in multiple colors.  It's just a natural evolution to keep high margins and consumer interest.  Samsung has proved that there is a market for bigger screens.  It doesn't hurt the Apple brand or margins to do a bigger and more expensive iPhone.


     


    I think Cook is on the hardware.


     


    What I "worry" about is actually the development of iOS.  I totally agree that iOS 6 is the best today.  But I think they can do more, much more.

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  • Reply 83 of 89
    igrivigriv Posts: 1,177member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by melmel View Post


    No, I don't worry about innovation at Apple.  It takes a few years to develop and introduce another game-changer.


     


    But I've suggested that they bring in a 5" iPhone Pro.  Also, the iPhone 5S in multiple colors.  It's just a natural evolution to keep high margins and consumer interest.  Samsung has proved that there is a market for bigger screens.  It doesn't hurt the Apple brand or margins to do a bigger and more expensive iPhone.


     


    I think Cook is on the hardware.


     


    What I "worry" about is actually the development of iOS.  I totally agree that iOS 6 is the best today.  But I think they can do more, much more.



     


    The public wants a bigger screen, but what Apple has said in the past (paraphrased) is that this would require a UI redesign, so this can only come in tandem with iOS 7 (or iOS 17, for the pessimists among us).

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  • Reply 84 of 89
    jungmarkjungmark Posts: 6,928member
    igriv wrote: »
    The public wants a bigger screen, but what Apple has said in the past (paraphrased) is that this would require a UI redesign, so this can only come in tandem with iOS 7 (or iOS 17, for the pessimists among us).

    Source this. The iPhone is the #1 and #2 smart phone on the world. While I do believe a complimentary 5" is in the works, it isn't due to "the public". It'll probably have the same rez as the 5.
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  • Reply 85 of 89
    igrivigriv Posts: 1,177member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jungmark View Post





    Source this. The iPhone is the #1 and #2 smart phone on the world. While I do believe a complimentary 5" is in the works, it isn't due to "the public". It'll probably have the same rez as the 5.


     


    The iPhone is popular despite its screen size. Here is a source:


    http://www.businessinsider.com/chart-of-the-day-apple-iphone-screen-2012-12


     


    or more anecdotally:


     


    http://www.businessinsider.com/apple-has-to-make-an-iphone-with-a-bigger-screen-2013-2

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  • Reply 86 of 89
    jungmarkjungmark Posts: 6,928member
    igriv wrote: »

    So the public isn't demanding a larger screen. If they were, the iPhone wouldn't be at the top.

    Didn't BI also suggested Apple make a Netbook.
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  • Reply 87 of 89
    melmelmelmel Posts: 46member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by igriv View Post


     


    The iPhone is popular despite its screen size. Here is a source:


    http://www.businessinsider.com/chart-of-the-day-apple-iphone-screen-2012-12


     


    or more anecdotally:


     


    http://www.businessinsider.com/apple-has-to-make-an-iphone-with-a-bigger-screen-2013-2



     


     


    I understand.  But I want Apple to have the #1, #2, and #3 best-selling smartphones.


     


    @jungmark An iPhone Pro with the same resolution as the iPhone 5S would be acceptable.  Still "retina."

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  • Reply 88 of 89
    igrivigriv Posts: 1,177member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jungmark View Post





    So the public isn't demanding a larger screen. If they were, the iPhone wouldn't be at the top.



    Didn't BI also suggested Apple make a Netbook.


     


    NO, I repeat, the iPhone is at the top DESPITE its screen. If Apple came out with a bigger phone (just increasing the width of the current iPhone to make it 4:3 would make me buy one as soon as I could get my hands on it), and the first of the links in my post said that 1/2 of iPhone users feel the same way. What part of this escapes you?

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  • Reply 89 of 89
    jungmarkjungmark Posts: 6,928member
    igriv wrote: »
    NO, I repeat, the iPhone is at the top DESPITE its screen. If Apple came out with a bigger phone (just increasing the width of the current iPhone to make it 4:3 would make me buy one as soon as I could get my hands on it), and the first of the links in my post said that 1/2 of iPhone users feel the same way. What part of this escapes you?

    The BI link doesn't even link to the survey. We don't know the methodology either. How do you know people don't want a 4.1" phone.

    And here's the deal. They have iPhones already and I highly doubt most of them would buy another phone if the next iPhone is only 4" considering the Note has been out for a year or so and yet iPhones are stll #1 &2.
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