You realize that comparing dual to quad to octa is retarded, don't you? What the hell are you talking about? It's the same architecture? Same generation? Are they powering the same OS?
What are you talking about?
The quad core Galaxy S4 or the octa core Galaxy S4?
Who gets which version?
How should developers approach the same phone having different processors?
The basic smartphone is approaching paradigm maturity. There is little in the way either side can make in the way of substantive improvement. From now on its just silly little frills and gimmicks trotted out to "prove" that our phone is "better" than yours. That, and quality of materials and fit-and-finish are the only distinguishing factors. The latter, along with its ecosystem continue to give the iPhone a slight edge overall.
Sure - if you don't mind google having access to every element of your private and business life. Personally, I am not interested in letting them read all my documents. If I wanted them to, I'd just mail them the password to my computer and open a port in the firewall for them.
For information I want to keep private, I use LibreOffice and have everything hosted on an OwnCloud instance on my home server. And I don't store anything ultra-sensitive on any cloud service, only on local storage (and encrypted, with physical backup).
Furthermore, Google is pretty decent about privacy. Their policies are on par with Apple, MS, and better than Facebook... (for those who actually read the terms of use) If you're concerned about privacy, having your information on any 3rd party storage is risky - not simply because they might scan it and read it, but because it's possible they could get hacked, lose data, etc...
Apple has their work cut out for them this year. This phone will probably double the sales of the S3. It may not appeal to diehard iPhone fans, but I can really see this appealing to Android fans or for people like me wanting to stay with an iPhone but desperately wanting that larger display. You may not like the innovations but you have to admit it offers some.
Did any one notice that the S 4 is looking more like a scaled up iPhone 4 than even the S 3? The top and bottom edges are more straight than the slightly rounded S3?
Very few Android phones ever have OS updates available - which is why the majority of Android phones are still running ancient versions. So even if this phone comes with the latest version (which is already 5 months old), by the time the phone is 2 years old, it will be running a 2.5 year old OS. Updates are routinely available for iPhones for years - so that's not the case with iPhones. So people who buy this phone are likely to be using it for most of its life without even the most basic security updates.
You should stick to what you know. You don't seem very familiar with Android high-end phones. You should take a little time to familiarize yourself before making blanket statements, particularly those that are easily disproven. Samsung falls down in several areas, but failing to offer any updates for it's Galaxy line isn't one of those.
As for the S4 announcement I was underwhelmed. At least Sammy's president was right that it was going to be more about software than hardware. What I found interesting is that several of the features sound like the rumored additions to Android itself in the upcoming Key Lime Pie version.
Apple has their work cut out for them this year. This phone will probably double the sales of the S3. It may not appeal to diehard iPhone fans, but I can really see this appealing to Android fans or for people like me wanting to stay with an iPhone but desperately wanting that larger display. You may not like the innovations but you have to admit it offers some.
But why THAT display and not an as big but better (or equally good) display of a better phone like the new one from sony or from htc?
But why THAT display and not an as big but better (or equally good) display of a better phone like the new one from sony or from htc?
Well, for me at least the HTC DNA which my friend has is a very nice phone but it only comes in 16GB or 32GB with no option for a micro SD slot. I could buy the S4 32GB for probably $299 and buy a 64GB SD card for about $45 for a total of 96GB or pay $299 for the 32GB HTC and always be limited to 32GB. That is the big differentiator for me. I also like think it has a far better camera and CPU than the HTC DNA. There is no Sony phone on my carrier so not even an option.
This survey is totally useless. Its title tried to trash iPhone 5. But the S 3 is not even in the top 5. So it fails to show any comparison between the Android OS and iOS.
Well, for me at least the HTC DNA which my friend has is a very nice phone but it only comes in 16GB or 32GB with no option for a micro SD slot. I could buy the S4 32GB for $199 and buy a 64GB SD card for about $45 for a total of 96GB or pay $299 for the 32GB HTC and always be limited to 32GB. That is the big differentiator for me. I also like think it has a far better camera and CPU than the HTC DNA. There is no Sony phone on my carrier so not even an option.
Where do you get the price that S4 32GB for $199? Out of your own mouth?
Strangely enough, seem to be a lot of Samsung experts on this pro Apple forum but I'll throw in my 2 cents. For those who say HTC and Sony should be ahead, HTC has nice phones but they have done a poor job at keeping Android up to date and their battery life sucks. From the early reviews I've seen, The HTC One is not looking good in that department either so I'm ruling it out despite the fact that Zoe looks pretty cool. As for Sony, they have the camera that will probably be in the next iPhone (and is the same one going into the S4 I believe) but they screwed up with the software on their latest Experia which turned me off of buying it.
Say what you want, I passed on the SIII as I have a Galaxy Nexus now and have been quite happy with it but I'm probably going to step up to the plate for the S4. The MHL 2.0, the camera, dual recording and the smart gestures (the auto-rotate turn off while lying in bed is a nice carry over from the SIII), ability to use the phone with gloves on, 5" HD screen + the ability to add a memory card are what sold me. Samsung definitely went with the software route on this announcement - the Android forums are seem to be a bit annoyed at that and many people are saying that HTC has won them over for this round.
Yeah, the presentation wasn't as slick as what Jobs would have done (who was known to rehearse insanely for these product launches) but then again, I don't judge a product based on the press conference and I would bet that most people here don't either (despite the fact that it seems to be important to the purchasing decision somehow - Always found the Apple crowd odd in that regard).
It will be interesting to see what Apple is going to push out for the iPhone now that they are being forced to rush their product cycle in order to keep up.
In this case, yes you can. A few phones beat the s4 ON EVERY METRIC.
You comprehensively fail to understand. You can not measure or infer a person's intelligence by what phone they chose to buy. I know intelligent people who don't care whether they have the latest, greatest or technically best if what they have fulfills their needs.
Btw, also want to point out that there are many Android 'experts' on here who profess to know a lot about the OS but based off their comments, it is painfully obvious they have not touched the OS in 2-3 years (or maybe they played with the phone for 20 seconds at the store).
Makes for funny reading for sure. I won't name names but you know who you are. Thanks for the chuckles.
Furthermore, Google is pretty decent about privacy. Their policies are on par with Apple, MS, and better than Facebook... (for those who actually read the terms of use)
While Facebook is a privacy nightmare, you can't base your privacy comfort with an organization on their published privacy policy, you have to look at how trustworthy the company is overall. On that basis, you shouldn't trust Google with anything and you should do whatever you can to block their spyware (I.e., Google Analytics) in your browsers.
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Originally Posted by pedromartins
You realize that comparing dual to quad to octa is retarded, don't you? What the hell are you talking about? It's the same architecture? Same generation? Are they powering the same OS?
What are you talking about?
The quad core Galaxy S4 or the octa core Galaxy S4?
Who gets which version?
How should developers approach the same phone having different processors?
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Originally Posted by MacRulez
I'm guessing the irony of that opening eludes you.
...except, it turns out, user satisfaction:
iPhone 5 ranks 5th in user satisfaction in U.S. behind four Android phones
http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/iphone-5-ranks-5th-in-user-satisfaction-in-u-s-behind-four-android-phones/
Then again those 4 others are not market leaders in sales and or profits, but are targeted and lower price smartphones.
This event just gave Apple a huge opportunity with its upcoming line of iPhone, iPad and iPad Mini to put their boot on Samsung and Android.
The basic smartphone is approaching paradigm maturity. There is little in the way either side can make in the way of substantive improvement. From now on its just silly little frills and gimmicks trotted out to "prove" that our phone is "better" than yours. That, and quality of materials and fit-and-finish are the only distinguishing factors. The latter, along with its ecosystem continue to give the iPhone a slight edge overall.
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Originally Posted by jragosta
Sure - if you don't mind google having access to every element of your private and business life. Personally, I am not interested in letting them read all my documents. If I wanted them to, I'd just mail them the password to my computer and open a port in the firewall for them.
For information I want to keep private, I use LibreOffice and have everything hosted on an OwnCloud instance on my home server. And I don't store anything ultra-sensitive on any cloud service, only on local storage (and encrypted, with physical backup).
Furthermore, Google is pretty decent about privacy. Their policies are on par with Apple, MS, and better than Facebook... (for those who actually read the terms of use) If you're concerned about privacy, having your information on any 3rd party storage is risky - not simply because they might scan it and read it, but because it's possible they could get hacked, lose data, etc...
Apple has their work cut out for them this year. This phone will probably double the sales of the S3. It may not appeal to diehard iPhone fans, but I can really see this appealing to Android fans or for people like me wanting to stay with an iPhone but desperately wanting that larger display. You may not like the innovations but you have to admit it offers some.
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Originally Posted by mdriftmeyer
Then again those 4 others are not market leaders in sales and or profits, but are targeted and lower price smartphones.
This event just gave Apple a huge opportunity with its upcoming line of iPhone, iPad and iPad Mini to put their boot on Samsung and Android.
Lower priced? Maybe marginally, all those phones were 600+ dollars to buy outright (brand new)...
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Originally Posted by pedromartins
Based on what? Fanboyism? Of course they will sell, but only for those that can't think for themselves and are easily influenced by ads.
A few Android phones already beat the S4 on every metric, and the iPhone still is the best phone available when all things are considered.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324392804578360674154361886.html WSJ
"But while many of the functions are useful or innovative, a few of them didn't seem ready for prime time in a preview with journalists."
It's just about gimmicks and stupid people.
nokia
Guess who's who... http://t.co/uzhuR7mk3s
15/03/13 00:02
You might find this surprising, but you can't determine a person's intelligence by the phone they choose to buy.
Did any one notice that the S 4 is looking more like a scaled up iPhone 4 than even the S 3? The top and bottom edges are more straight than the slightly rounded S3?
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Originally Posted by jragosta
Very few Android phones ever have OS updates available - which is why the majority of Android phones are still running ancient versions. So even if this phone comes with the latest version (which is already 5 months old), by the time the phone is 2 years old, it will be running a 2.5 year old OS. Updates are routinely available for iPhones for years - so that's not the case with iPhones. So people who buy this phone are likely to be using it for most of its life without even the most basic security updates.
You should stick to what you know. You don't seem very familiar with Android high-end phones. You should take a little time to familiarize yourself before making blanket statements, particularly those that are easily disproven. Samsung falls down in several areas, but failing to offer any updates for it's Galaxy line isn't one of those.
As for the S4 announcement I was underwhelmed. At least Sammy's president was right that it was going to be more about software than hardware. What I found interesting is that several of the features sound like the rumored additions to Android itself in the upcoming Key Lime Pie version.
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Originally Posted by cnocbui
You might find this surprising, but you can't determine a person's intelligence by the phone they choose to buy.
In this case, yes you can. A few phones beat the s4 ON EVERY METRIC.
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Originally Posted by gwmac
Apple has their work cut out for them this year. This phone will probably double the sales of the S3. It may not appeal to diehard iPhone fans, but I can really see this appealing to Android fans or for people like me wanting to stay with an iPhone but desperately wanting that larger display. You may not like the innovations but you have to admit it offers some.
But why THAT display and not an as big but better (or equally good) display of a better phone like the new one from sony or from htc?
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Originally Posted by mdriftmeyer
Then again those 4 others are not market leaders in sales and or profits, but are targeted and lower price smartphones.
This event just gave Apple a huge opportunity with its upcoming line of iPhone, iPad and iPad Mini to put their boot on Samsung and Android.
Notice the Samsung Galaxy S III is not one of them, I guess they sell on hype alone, not user satisfaction.
Cut to faces of the audience, after the presentation:
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Originally Posted by pedromartins
But why THAT display and not an as big but better (or equally good) display of a better phone like the new one from sony or from htc?
Well, for me at least the HTC DNA which my friend has is a very nice phone but it only comes in 16GB or 32GB with no option for a micro SD slot. I could buy the S4 32GB for probably $299 and buy a 64GB SD card for about $45 for a total of 96GB or pay $299 for the 32GB HTC and always be limited to 32GB. That is the big differentiator for me. I also like think it has a far better camera and CPU than the HTC DNA. There is no Sony phone on my carrier so not even an option.
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Originally Posted by MacRulez
I'm guessing the irony of that opening eludes you.
...except, it turns out, user satisfaction:
iPhone 5 ranks 5th in user satisfaction in U.S. behind four Android phones
http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/iphone-5-ranks-5th-in-user-satisfaction-in-u-s-behind-four-android-phones/
This survey is totally useless. Its title tried to trash iPhone 5. But the S 3 is not even in the top 5. So it fails to show any comparison between the Android OS and iOS.
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Originally Posted by gwmac
Well, for me at least the HTC DNA which my friend has is a very nice phone but it only comes in 16GB or 32GB with no option for a micro SD slot. I could buy the S4 32GB for $199 and buy a 64GB SD card for about $45 for a total of 96GB or pay $299 for the 32GB HTC and always be limited to 32GB. That is the big differentiator for me. I also like think it has a far better camera and CPU than the HTC DNA. There is no Sony phone on my carrier so not even an option.
Where do you get the price that S4 32GB for $199? Out of your own mouth?
Strangely enough, seem to be a lot of Samsung experts on this pro Apple forum but I'll throw in my 2 cents. For those who say HTC and Sony should be ahead, HTC has nice phones but they have done a poor job at keeping Android up to date and their battery life sucks. From the early reviews I've seen, The HTC One is not looking good in that department either so I'm ruling it out despite the fact that Zoe looks pretty cool. As for Sony, they have the camera that will probably be in the next iPhone (and is the same one going into the S4 I believe) but they screwed up with the software on their latest Experia which turned me off of buying it.
Say what you want, I passed on the SIII as I have a Galaxy Nexus now and have been quite happy with it but I'm probably going to step up to the plate for the S4. The MHL 2.0, the camera, dual recording and the smart gestures (the auto-rotate turn off while lying in bed is a nice carry over from the SIII), ability to use the phone with gloves on, 5" HD screen + the ability to add a memory card are what sold me. Samsung definitely went with the software route on this announcement - the Android forums are seem to be a bit annoyed at that and many people are saying that HTC has won them over for this round.
Yeah, the presentation wasn't as slick as what Jobs would have done (who was known to rehearse insanely for these product launches) but then again, I don't judge a product based on the press conference and I would bet that most people here don't either (despite the fact that it seems to be important to the purchasing decision somehow - Always found the Apple crowd odd in that regard).
It will be interesting to see what Apple is going to push out for the iPhone now that they are being forced to rush their product cycle in order to keep up.
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Originally Posted by pedromartins
In this case, yes you can. A few phones beat the s4 ON EVERY METRIC.
You comprehensively fail to understand. You can not measure or infer a person's intelligence by what phone they chose to buy. I know intelligent people who don't care whether they have the latest, greatest or technically best if what they have fulfills their needs.
Btw, also want to point out that there are many Android 'experts' on here who profess to know a lot about the OS but based off their comments, it is painfully obvious they have not touched the OS in 2-3 years (or maybe they played with the phone for 20 seconds at the store).
Makes for funny reading for sure. I won't name names but you know who you are. Thanks for the chuckles.
While Facebook is a privacy nightmare, you can't base your privacy comfort with an organization on their published privacy policy, you have to look at how trustworthy the company is overall. On that basis, you shouldn't trust Google with anything and you should do whatever you can to block their spyware (I.e., Google Analytics) in your browsers.