Samsung challenges Apple's iPhone with new Galaxy S4

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  • Reply 81 of 314
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
    jungmark wrote: »
    So what is the diff between the SG4 and Note2?

    The stylus.
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  • Reply 82 of 314
    tzeshantzeshan Posts: 2,351member

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    Originally Posted by MacRulez View Post




    I guess for platform popularity we'd have to look at market share stats, which tend to vary somewhat by seem to indicate an overall trend:


     








    This has been discussed at length on AI.  There are surveys that found that iOS devices consume far more ad impression and video playing than Android device users.  So what do these three times more Android device owners do with their devices? 

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  • Reply 83 of 314
    buckalecbuckalec Posts: 204member


    you can hire savy engineers, you can hire cool designers but at the end of the day - if you still use a shite typeface like this, then something is missing in


    your DN, freckin A. (applies to google too)


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  • Reply 84 of 314
    genovellegenovelle Posts: 1,481member

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    Originally Posted by Mikeb85 View Post


     


    For information I want to keep private, I use LibreOffice and have everything hosted on an OwnCloud instance on my home server.  And I don't store anything ultra-sensitive on any cloud service, only on local storage (and encrypted, with physical backup).  


     


    Furthermore, Google is pretty decent about privacy.  Their policies are on par with Apple, MS, and better than Facebook...  (for those who actually read the terms of use)  If you're concerned about privacy, having your information on any 3rd party storage is risky - not simply because they might scan it and read it, but because it's possible they could get hacked, lose data, etc...



    Google is terrible about privacy. They are the only major company who has been fined multiple times for purposely violating consumer privacy. In one case going as far as to hack Safari to track users who selected do not track anyway.  They can not be trusted, AT ALL!! Their purpose is to gather data on you.  The problem is if they are willing to hack another companies browser what else are they doing?   

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  • Reply 85 of 314
    You realize that comparing dual to quad to octa is retarded, don't you? What the hell are you talking about? It's the same architecture? Same generation? Are they powering the same OS?

    Maybe you are missing the point - one doesn't need all the power on that phone! But like Jragsota mentioned - I guess they for crummy Android OS they need dedicated cores to recover for errors! LOL

    jragosta wrote: »
    You're missing the point. They NEED 4-8 cores because Android is such a kludge and the UI is so choppy. It's really nothing to brag about. "Our OS is so bad that we had to double the number of cores, drastically decreasing battery life, in order to make it usable".

    OTOH, maybe that explains the size. They aren't really interested in the screen size, but they needed such a huge battery to power the processor that they figured they might as well put in a big screen since the phone was massive, anyway.
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  • Reply 86 of 314


    I going back to a corded land-line and a bunch of quarters in my pocket. The heck with this.

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  • Reply 87 of 314
    bushman4bushman4 Posts: 873member


    Just a wake up call for Apple that they do not need an 'S' model. Apple needs the iPhone 6 at their next launch.

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  • Reply 88 of 314
    v5vv5v Posts: 1,357member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jragosta View Post





    [...] No one has yet mentioned that Schiller was wrong about the OS version. It runs 4.2 - which is only 4-5 months old, not a year. It doesn't really matter much, though. The point he was making is valid.


     


    So if I buy an iPhone 5 today, how old is the software that comes with it?

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  • Reply 89 of 314
    mstonemstone Posts: 11,510member

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    Originally Posted by cnocbui View Post


    You might find this surprising, but you can't determine a person's intelligence by the phone they choose to buy.



    Perhaps, however, although, nerds may be able to solve quadratic equations they somehow manage to still say the exact wrong thing at the wrong time to a member of the opposite sex. There is more than one side to intelligence.


     


    Normal people tend to prefer Apple's integrated ecosystem, especially if they can afford multiple devices. If not, they buy some cheap Android, but please don't confuse those people with Android elitist nerds. That is why there is such disparity between the Internet usage rates of Android vs. iOS. The Android nerds are constantly rebooting a new profile tweak and the novice users have no Wifi, hence neither are actually using their device to its potential. On the other hand, since Apple products just work and normal people don't screw around with hacking them, they are making very good use of their devices and the Internet usage stats and app store sales reflect that.

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  • Reply 90 of 314


    Two words:  Not Impressed.


     


    Where is the innovation ?


     


    1.  2 Cameras that can take pictures simultaneously with sound?


         Ever heard of Motion pictures?


     


    2.  Screen controlled by motion?


         Just how far is the phone from you that it requires using motion gestures?


     


    3.  Any security improvements to get it into businesses?


         Looks like it's running the same old Android version.


     


    4.  OK.  Amoled screen with 441 PPI may be nice. I have not seen it.


         But 5 inches?  WTF?


     


    5.  Let's see how well it sells after all the hoopla.  


         I would most certainly choose the iPhone 5 over that any day of the week and twice on Sunday.


     


    It's not just a matter of advertising Samsung, you need to have very innovative products.

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  • Reply 91 of 314
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
    I going back to a corded land-line and a bunch of quarters in my pocket. The heck with this.

    I'm right behind you.
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  • Reply 92 of 314
    v5vv5v Posts: 1,357member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jragosta View Post



    Maybe you should read the article before posting. The conclusion is:


     


    ...that Apple, as a company, based on the entire product line, finished first overall. The iPhone 5, taken in isolation and based only on its own merits, finished fifth.

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  • Reply 93 of 314
    hill60hill60 Posts: 6,992member
    jungmark wrote: »
    So what is the diff between the SG4 and Note2?

    The stick that costs $60 to replace if you lose it.

    Half an inch more of lower resolution screen.
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  • Reply 94 of 314
    jungmarkjungmark Posts: 6,928member
    v5v wrote: »
    So if I buy an iPhone 5 today, how old is the software that comes with it?

    Up to date. And in six months from now, it'll still be up to date. A year from now, it'll still be up to date.
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  • Reply 95 of 314
    genovellegenovelle Posts: 1,481member

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    Originally Posted by Gatorguy View Post


    You should stick to what you know. You don't seem very familiar with Android high-end phones. You should take a little time to familiarize yourself before making blanket statements, particularly those that are easily disproven. Samsung falls down in several areas, but failing to offer any updates for it's Galaxy line isn't one of those.


     


    As for the S4 announcement I was underwhelmed. At least Sammy's president was right that it was going to be more about software than hardware. What I found interesting is that several of the features sound like the rumored additions to Android itself in the upcoming Key Lime Pie version.



    5 out of 12 of their most popular phones got updates in their lifetime.  Keep in mind what they are calling an update Apple does several times throughout the year.  They are point updates.  The major updates like Apple does every year are rarely extended to the older phones.  From 2.2 to 4.0 for instance. They basally skipped 3.0 because it was to be the tablet OS to kill the iPad.  Didn't fly though.  It took Samsung over 6 months on all but one update, and thats after Google finally releases to.  So they do offer them for some, but not all, they are very slow about providing them. 


     


    http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2012/12/the-checkered-slow-history-of-android-handset-updates/

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  • Reply 96 of 314
    tbelltbell Posts: 3,146member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cnocbui View Post




    I challenge your observation.  I think they will sell a lot of them.



     


     


    He said no "rational" person would buy them. Most people (in the US anyway) aren't rational.

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  • Reply 97 of 314
    hill60hill60 Posts: 6,992member
    tzeshan wrote: »

    This has been discussed at length on AI.  There are surveys that found that iOS devices consume far more ad impression and video playing than Android device users.  So what do these three times more Android device owners do with their devices? 

    Put them in a pocket and answer them when they ring.
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  • Reply 98 of 314
    jfanningjfanning Posts: 3,398member
    jragosta wrote: »
    No one has yet mentioned that Schiller was wrong about the OS version. It runs 4.2 - which is only 4-5 months old, not a year. It doesn't really matter much, though. The point he was making is valid.

    Their release document says 4.2.2, which was released last month.
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  • Reply 99 of 314
    solipsismxsolipsismx Posts: 19,566member
    Ships with 4.2.2. Nailed it!

    No word on pricing but ships next quarter which is 0.5 to 3.5 months from now. I'm wager toward the end of the end.

    I'm not sure why one needs to see the front back of the cameras at the same time but not being a camera guy I'm too disinterested to conceive how that could be of value to users.

    The display is too big for me but I don't think Apple is against a larger iPhone at 4.9x". I do question the choice of PenTile but at 441 ppi it's on par with the iPhone's actual pixel density, but my concern is colour accuracy which has never looked good to me with PenTile. Perhaps the pixel density is now high enough to correct that issue.

    Octo-core processor? LOL Just make it last all day while having a fluid experience. Does Android OS even have optimizations for 8 cores at this point?

    I think S-Health is interesting but I don't see it as being that good. I hope I'm wrong and that Apple has something much better on the horizon but I think it's doubtful.

    I think it will outsell the S III.
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  • Reply 100 of 314
    hill60hill60 Posts: 6,992member
    bushman4 wrote: »
    Just a wake up call for Apple that they do not need an 'S' model. Apple needs the iPhone 6 at their next launch.

    Why?

    I can only see a few minor and predictable incremental changes on this new Galaxy IIIS.
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