This has been discussed at length on AI. There are surveys that found that iOS devices consume far more ad impression and video playing than Android device users. So what do these three times more Android device owners do with their devices?
That's not even the biggest issue. All these 'smartphone' market share numbers include ALL Android phones - even those that are feature phones rather than smartphone. And, as you point out, all the cheap Android smartphones that are simply used as feature phones.
But, frankly, I couldn't care less. Hyundai sells a lot more cars than Ferrari, but if you want to give me a car, I know which one I'd take.
So if I buy an iPhone 5 today, how old is the software that comes with it?
I don't remember - something like 6 months. But the point is that you'll get updates for your iPhone. Odds are slim that you'll get updates for your Android phone.
...that Apple, as a company, based on the entire product line, finished first overall. The iPhone 5, taken in isolation and based only on its own merits, finished fifth.
Please explain how that works. More importantly, explain why you believe a company which can't even figure out how to make a web site.
This has been discussed at length on AI. There are surveys that found that iOS devices consume far more ad impression and video playing than Android device users. So what do these three times more Android device owners do with their devices?
Yeah, the presentation wasn't as slick as what Jobs would have done (who was known to rehearse insanely for these product launches) but then again, I don't judge a product based on the press conference and I would bet that most people here don't either (despite the fact that it seems to be important to the purchasing decision somehow - Always found the Apple crowd odd in that regard).
It will be interesting to see what Apple is going to push out for the iPhone now that they are being forced to rush their product cycle in order to keep up.
Yeah, black is white, white is black.
All you hear from fandroids is how "Apple isn't cool" "Apple is for old people". Talk about koolaid drinkers...
And yeah... "Apple is being forced" and "They're rushing". I'm sure they're quaking in their (cool-dude hipster) boots.
I don't think it is the size of the iPhone five that is the problem. I think it's more of iOS. it looks outdated and scale. This is one of the reason why I moved to android. iOS just have a bunch of icons on the screen and this is not enough for me. That shit is way too simple. The user interface need to change.
What would you like to see on the screen instead of just a bunch of icons?
I, for one, am a strong believer in the KISS principle, and am actually very impressed with Apple's ability to maintain a very high level of usability while controlling the degree to which users can get into trouble.
This has been discussed at length on AI. There are surveys that found that iOS devices consume far more ad impression and video playing than Android device users. So what do these three times more Android device owners do with their devices?
Apple have had iOS on devices for years when it was top dog, so the total number of iOS devices in the wild, is still much greater than Android. In a few years you'll see the Android percentages much higher than Apple's. Besides, it's pretty obvious that people with a bigger screen, especially 5" screens, are going to use the internet far more than someone on an iPhone. Ease of use and better battery life on Android will also up their take.
This is probably just a rumor, but I've heard that at Apple's Cupertino headquarters, they have their Apple flag at half mast. I'd also heard that there's finally some stirring about in the CEO's office. Tim caught wind of the Samsung Galaxy S4 introduction and went into a rage about why wasn't the iPhone 6 ready. After being told to calm down and that it would be ready in four months or so, Tim Cook nodded, asked everyone to leave, then put his head down on his desk and promptly went back to sleep. So goes Tim Cook's tough response to Samsung muscling into Apple's iPhone territory. That's the way Tim. Fighting! And to my fellow Apple shareholders... Have patience. Apple's share price might drop to below $400, but don't worry about it. Tim Cook certainly isn't.
First, I own Apple shares, and I bought some of them at quite a bit higher price. So I feel your pain. Apple, however, is where it is at now due to patience and well thought out execution. When it rushes, you getmistakes like the maps flop.
Apple's stock price has nothing to do with its performance. Nothing is different now then when it was trading at over 700 dollars a share. Professional traders are pushing the price down for a variety of reasons, including pressuring Apple to do dumb things like borrow money to give traders cash. with Jonathon Ive in charge of iOS, it will be exciting to see what software changes Apple has coming up.
As far as the stock goes, it is proven girls are better at trading stocks because they are more patient then men.
Just a wake up call for Apple that they do not need an 'S' model. Apple needs the iPhone 6 at their next launch.
You got that right. Apple doesn't need to worry about any new phone for awhile. They can skip the 'S' and just sit back and cruise for another 12 months, and then just come out with the '6', after what Samsung just released. (yawn)
Interesting. Of course we'll need a second survey to confirm these results. In addition, the top five are all probably within the margin of error for the sample size.
It's inevitable that Samsung will surpass iPhone sales in the US for good (not just around release). The iPhone is no longer the cool because everyone's moms and dads have them. Also, Justin Long, the artsy guy or coffee baristas with iPhone are also no longer cool.
I guess for platform popularity we'd have to look at market share stats, which tend to vary somewhat by seem to indicate an overall trend:
The problem is this uses Apple's Sales and compares it to Androids Shipments. The only successful Android Maker is Samsung and their numbers don't add up. They far more phones than the 21 million they actually reported sold between 2010 and June of 2012 in the court documents. There is a reason they stopped reporting sales each quarter. The same with Google. Activations are growing yet Apple continues to far out perform all Android phones combined when ever the major carriers report their numbers. ODD!
I am in the cyber security area, and I wouldn't touch chrom or any other Google product. For example, Chrom, even in private browsing still collects your surfing habits and the places you visited, and how many times you visited, and the list goes on. This information is stored on their servers and with little effort (because you're a Google faithful, you'll at some point would have logged into your Google account) they can tie you with what you did. Scary stuff.
I try to explain this to people but they are mesmerized by cheap or free stuff.
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That's not even the biggest issue. All these 'smartphone' market share numbers include ALL Android phones - even those that are feature phones rather than smartphone. And, as you point out, all the cheap Android smartphones that are simply used as feature phones.
But, frankly, I couldn't care less. Hyundai sells a lot more cars than Ferrari, but if you want to give me a car, I know which one I'd take.
I don't remember - something like 6 months. But the point is that you'll get updates for your iPhone. Odds are slim that you'll get updates for your Android phone.
Please explain how that works. More importantly, explain why you believe a company which can't even figure out how to make a web site.
Too busy living life to use them.
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Originally Posted by zippy2shoes
Yeah, the presentation wasn't as slick as what Jobs would have done (who was known to rehearse insanely for these product launches) but then again, I don't judge a product based on the press conference and I would bet that most people here don't either (despite the fact that it seems to be important to the purchasing decision somehow - Always found the Apple crowd odd in that regard).
It will be interesting to see what Apple is going to push out for the iPhone now that they are being forced to rush their product cycle in order to keep up.
Yeah, black is white, white is black.
All you hear from fandroids is how "Apple isn't cool" "Apple is for old people". Talk about koolaid drinkers...
And yeah... "Apple is being forced" and "They're rushing". I'm sure they're quaking in their (cool-dude hipster) boots.
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Originally Posted by therealestmc
I don't think it is the size of the iPhone five that is the problem. I think it's more of iOS. it looks outdated and scale. This is one of the reason why I moved to android. iOS just have a bunch of icons on the screen and this is not enough for me. That shit is way too simple. The user interface need to change.
What would you like to see on the screen instead of just a bunch of icons?
I, for one, am a strong believer in the KISS principle, and am actually very impressed with Apple's ability to maintain a very high level of usability while controlling the degree to which users can get into trouble.
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Originally Posted by bleh1234
Sony ericsson xperia x10 mini pro, end of 2009 or first months of 2010. why?
What the hell is this crap?
It looks 99.967% the same as the previous one, a big, plastic Android phone. ZZZZzzzzzz......
This is what all of the hype was about?
Samsung is trying so hard to be Apple, it is quite pathetic to even witness.
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Originally Posted by tzeshan
This has been discussed at length on AI. There are surveys that found that iOS devices consume far more ad impression and video playing than Android device users. So what do these three times more Android device owners do with their devices?
Apple have had iOS on devices for years when it was top dog, so the total number of iOS devices in the wild, is still much greater than Android. In a few years you'll see the Android percentages much higher than Apple's. Besides, it's pretty obvious that people with a bigger screen, especially 5" screens, are going to use the internet far more than someone on an iPhone. Ease of use and better battery life on Android will also up their take.
I Deleted my post I was not to nice. Sorry
6.1.2, about a month.
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Originally Posted by hill60
When are they going to come up with some innovation, instead of some minor tweaks to what's already out there?
Yeah, Samsung seems to just copy, scale up/down and iterate. I'm very underwhelmed by this new release.
The device and the 'stick' have a link that if one gets too far away from the other an alert goes off.
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Originally Posted by NasserAE
Yep, and the proof is the exploding number of Android users actually using their phones to access the web.... oh wait!!
Oh Snap! LOL!
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Originally Posted by BUSHMAN4
Just a wake up call for Apple that they do not need an 'S' model. Apple needs the iPhone 6 at their next launch.
For people like you, it's the name that matters.
If sammy called this 3s, oh boy... but they called 4! yeah!
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Originally Posted by Constable Odo
This is probably just a rumor, but I've heard that at Apple's Cupertino headquarters, they have their Apple flag at half mast. I'd also heard that there's finally some stirring about in the CEO's office. Tim caught wind of the Samsung Galaxy S4 introduction and went into a rage about why wasn't the iPhone 6 ready. After being told to calm down and that it would be ready in four months or so, Tim Cook nodded, asked everyone to leave, then put his head down on his desk and promptly went back to sleep. So goes Tim Cook's tough response to Samsung muscling into Apple's iPhone territory. That's the way Tim. Fighting! And to my fellow Apple shareholders... Have patience. Apple's share price might drop to below $400, but don't worry about it. Tim Cook certainly isn't.
First, I own Apple shares, and I bought some of them at quite a bit higher price. So I feel your pain. Apple, however, is where it is at now due to patience and well thought out execution. When it rushes, you get mistakes like the maps flop.
Apple's stock price has nothing to do with its performance. Nothing is different now then when it was trading at over 700 dollars a share. Professional traders are pushing the price down for a variety of reasons, including pressuring Apple to do dumb things like borrow money to give traders cash. with Jonathon Ive in charge of iOS, it will be exciting to see what software changes Apple has coming up.
As far as the stock goes, it is proven girls are better at trading stocks because they are more patient then men.
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Originally Posted by BUSHMAN4
Just a wake up call for Apple that they do not need an 'S' model. Apple needs the iPhone 6 at their next launch.
You got that right. Apple doesn't need to worry about any new phone for awhile. They can skip the 'S' and just sit back and cruise for another 12 months, and then just come out with the '6', after what Samsung just released. (yawn)
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Originally Posted by v5v
So if I buy an iPhone 5 today, how old is the software that comes with it?
6.1.2 came out 1 month ago.
Interesting. Of course we'll need a second survey to confirm these results. In addition, the top five are all probably within the margin of error for the sample size.
It's inevitable that Samsung will surpass iPhone sales in the US for good (not just around release). The iPhone is no longer the cool because everyone's moms and dads have them. Also, Justin Long, the artsy guy or coffee baristas with iPhone are also no longer cool.
Samsung has Lebron James, etc....
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Originally Posted by MacRulez
I guess for platform popularity we'd have to look at market share stats, which tend to vary somewhat by seem to indicate an overall trend:
The problem is this uses Apple's Sales and compares it to Androids Shipments. The only successful Android Maker is Samsung and their numbers don't add up. They far more phones than the 21 million they actually reported sold between 2010 and June of 2012 in the court documents. There is a reason they stopped reporting sales each quarter. The same with Google. Activations are growing yet Apple continues to far out perform all Android phones combined when ever the major carriers report their numbers. ODD!
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Originally Posted by TheMacMan
I am in the cyber security area, and I wouldn't touch chrom or any other Google product. For example, Chrom, even in private browsing still collects your surfing habits and the places you visited, and how many times you visited, and the list goes on. This information is stored on their servers and with little effort (because you're a Google faithful, you'll at some point would have logged into your Google account) they can tie you with what you did. Scary stuff.
I try to explain this to people but they are mesmerized by cheap or free stuff.