I think that it's visually outdated, but it works.
I'd love to be able to glance at weather info on the lockscreen without having to unlock the phone. Something like that just seems like a no-brainer.
Yeah that lockscreen needs to be more useful. Come one Apple!
While I think the UI is efficient, the UX is too basic and could definitely use an up haul . That's why I always JB my phone c/c I enjoy using my iPhone much more with SB Settings and Activiator installed.
Computer interfaces have been basically the same for almost 3 decades. I don't hear anyone clamoring for an overhaul of that. I think it would be stupid for a company to radically overhaul a UI to appease Wall Street. Incremental changes, otherwise people would complain about how much different the UI is and how they need to learn it all over again (windows 8).
I'm done with Appleinsider for awhile. The articles here are straight-up bullshit.
I'm surprised not a single one of the hard-core users on the forum mentioned this: for Apple to add a list view or cover flow for apps, they would essentially be adding what they took out of iOS. Because as everyone knows, iOS is based on and essentially a child of OS X. I would guestimate 100 ines of code max for each "feature". In fact quite a few "features" could be put back in so to speak, even opening with default app, or as some others have mentioned, widgets and Dashboard.
Fact is that iOS shares the same code as OS X, but adds the Core Touch framework, so anything is possible. HOWEVER: the Apple mantra of what's thrown out for sake up usability is more important than ever going forward. The Microsoft experiment, and the free-for-all Android and specifically the hideous feature bloat of the Samsung S4 proves this point.
I'm surprised not a single one of the hard-core users on the forum mentioned this: for Apple to add a list view or cover flow for apps, they would essentially be adding what they took out of iOS. Because as everyone knows, iOS is based on and essentially a child of OS X. I would guestimate 100 ines of code max for each "feature". In fact quite a few "features" could be put back in so to speak, even opening with default app, or as some others have mentioned, widgets and Dashboard.
Fact is that iOS shares the same code as OS X, but adds the Core Touch framework, so anything is possible. HOWEVER: the Apple mantra of what's thrown out for sake up usability is more important than ever going forward. The Microsoft experiment, and the free-for-all Android and specifically the hideous feature bloat of the Samsung S4 proves this point.
Note they already have CoverFlow in iTunes so I would guess the lines of code to pull the App icons would be much less than 100 to make this work. That said, I hope they don't do this. I've long wished that I could disable CoverFlow in Music nee iTunes as any tilt too much will switch to a view I hate using on iOS.
I've long wished that I could disable CoverFlow in Music nee iTunes as any tilt too much will switch to a view I hate using on iOS.
Fully agree sir, I don't like that either. In fact, I find it annoying. Good thing the iPhone 5 flips back portrait/landscape quicker that previous models.
there are some good suggestions here, and I think a lot of them would make iOS more functional. I don't think they're just change for the sake of change. I'm not necessarily a fan of widgets but why does the home screen need to be a grid of apps? What if I wanted it to just show date/time/weather and the apps I use the most? Or access to most used settings. And have all my other apps on a different screen which could be organized alphabetically or by some category. And I'd only need to see them when I want to access one of those apps. There are things Apple can do which would benefit the user. If iOS was perfect Scott Forstall would still be at Apple.
Uh...Scott is still at Apple, last time i remember. And still being consulted as an Advisor to iOS development.
what you suggest alienates a lot of people that don't want the OS to automatically organize your apps for you.
Just a grid of Apps? Uh, your Mac is the same way and I don't hear anyone complaining about that? What would you suggest instead of a grid of Apps that easy to use in a single handed touch interface? The only way it could get more user-freindly would be to make it entirely Siri-friendly or telepathy.
If Apple doesn't do something fresh and interesting with iOS 7 I'll be switching to an Android device. The new HTC One is very impressive. I like the iPhone quite a bit but I haven't been excited about anything they've done for years, found iOS5 and iOS6 very boring, increasingly scattered design mentality, and making me wonder what they are even doing over there with all the talent in the world coming up with very little each year.
If you can still post this without embarrassment after reading through this thread, then I guess I give up on your type.
Your type? Over-amped, ADD nervous system, with nothing better to do than play with your phone and whine about how it no longer gets you off. If you are bored with the OS of your iPhone, I suggest that the problem is with you.
I wouldn't bother criticizing you, but your junk meme is sucking in other people and causing a fictitious problem. Helping to tank the stock, I might add. Switch. Bye.
I was talking about you not supporting AppleInsider with ads and trying to change the subject on me skipping past commercials on DVR. Nothing to do with Apple or Android.
I was the one who mentioned I would wager that you skipped commercials using a DVR....even though you currently don't have/use one, and you were the one who brought up that blocking GoogleAds was pathetic. I was just saying that you are (were) probably guilty of doing the same thing with TV ads. DVRs are not provided for free, the cost is built into the subscription and if you had one you would skip commercials. There is no doubt in my mind.
What difference does it make if one ignores the ads on AppleInsider or uses a plug-in to block them? Blocking them just serves to reduce clutter on the webpage.
If you can still post this without embarrassment after reading through this thread, then I guess I give up on your type.
Your type? Over-amped, ADD nervous system, with nothing better to do than play with your phone and whine about how it no longer gets you off. If you are bored with the OS of your iPhone, I suggest that the problem is with you.
I wouldn't bother criticizing you, but your junk meme is sucking in other people and causing a fictitious problem. Helping to tank the stock, I might add. Switch. Bye.
Don't feed the concern trolls. It just makes it worse.
If Apple doesn't do something fresh and interesting with iOS 7 I'll be switching to an Android device. The new HTC One is very impressive. I like the iPhone quite a bit but I haven't been excited about anything they've done for years, found iOS5 and iOS6 very boring, increasingly scattered design mentality, and making me wonder what they are even doing over there with all the talent in the world coming up with very little each year.
Make sure to let Apple know about your ultimatum, I have no doubt they will take that into consideration and shift their entire product strategy to suit your specific wants.
Icons with realtime data would be nice too. Want to know the temperature? Look at the weather app icon which instead of the sun and 72 degrees it always displays as it's icon could be the actual temperature and weather... The clock could show you the actual time, or if you have a timer or stopwatch going, update in realtime. Sure, get a whole screen of icons that all want to tell you something and you have a mess but...
All of that said, I really DON'T like the whole Android widget thing. Weird mixed metaphor of icons and apps.
Like the former RIM CEO's, once you start criticizing Apple, your future ain't looking so bright.
"Why mess with a good thing?" is probably what masters of Nokia/Symbian, RIM and Win CE were telling themselves when iOS, and later Android, hit the market.
After all, they had market share and were still selling good in the first year of iPhone availability, likely longer.
But I personally think you need to keep things fresh pro-actively, rather than wait for decline before you start acting. Of course, this is just my own point of view; I don't know how many others share it, if any significant number. But I do know that, running 3Gs with iOS6, I am really not inspired to get new iPhone. I don't care for features that require advanced hardware; I don't game on phone anything even remotely complex, I have dedicated camera in my pocket/bag/car all the time... but I would like improved functionality with base features - messages, calendar, contacts, email - and, save for higher res screen and snappier response, I would not get much with new iPhone from what I have now.
Icons with realtime data would be nice too. Want to know the temperature? Look at the weather app icon which instead of the sun and 72 degrees it always displays as it's icon could be the actual temperature and weather... The clock could show you the actual time, or if you have a timer or stopwatch going, update in realtime. Sure, get a whole screen of icons that all want to tell you something and you have a mess but...
All of that said, I really DON'T like the whole Android widget thing. Weird mixed metaphor of icons and apps.
These are exact things I like with Windows 8 / WP8 tiles. I'm also not too enthusiastic with Android - in fact, after trying handful of widgets on my Android tablet, I have revered back to basic layout with no widgets. Probably lack of uniformity of widgets design is what doesn't work for me on Android.
So for me, tiles functionality presented in different (more Apple-esque?) way. I honestly don't know what that way should be, but then - there is a reason why I am not Jony Ive.
are we at apple going to fix this or do I buy the Z10 from bbry as I dont want to be hacked like this
NEWARK, N.J. %u2014 A man convicted of illegally gaining access to AT&T's servers and stealing more than 100,000 e-mail addresses of iPad users is facing sentencing.
Andrew Auernheimer is scheduled to appear in federal court in Newark today.
The former Arkansas resident was convicted in November of identity theft and conspiracy to gain unauthorized access to computers. Prosecutors are seeking a sentence of 33 to 41 months. Auernheimer's attorney says his client should receive probation.
Prosecutors say Auernheimer was part of an online group that tricked AT&T's website into divulging the email addresses, including those of New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, film mogul Harvey Weinstein and other celebrities.
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Originally Posted by september11th
If Apple doesn't do something fresh and interesting with iOS 7 I'll be switching to an Android device.
Bye.
…making me wonder what they are even doing over there with all the talent in the world coming up with very little each year.
Maybe they're, you know, not "coming up with very little".
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Originally Posted by Mazda 3s
I think that it's visually outdated, but it works.
I'd love to be able to glance at weather info on the lockscreen without having to unlock the phone. Something like that just seems like a no-brainer.
Yeah that lockscreen needs to be more useful. Come one Apple!
While I think the UI is efficient, the UX is too basic and could definitely use an up haul . That's why I always JB my phone c/c I enjoy using my iPhone much more with SB Settings and Activiator installed.
Computer interfaces have been basically the same for almost 3 decades. I don't hear anyone clamoring for an overhaul of that. I think it would be stupid for a company to radically overhaul a UI to appease Wall Street. Incremental changes, otherwise people would complain about how much different the UI is and how they need to learn it all over again (windows 8).
I'm done with Appleinsider for awhile. The articles here are straight-up bullshit.
This is the company that literally JUST released the phone in this photo - which is the iPhoniest iPhone clone I've ever seen:
http://www.engadget.com/2013/03/01/first-bb10-update/
You're a fucking idiot. Could you touch the grid and interface with it in your palm in 1984? Douchebag.
Fact is that iOS shares the same code as OS X, but adds the Core Touch framework, so anything is possible. HOWEVER: the Apple mantra of what's thrown out for sake up usability is more important than ever going forward. The Microsoft experiment, and the free-for-all Android and specifically the hideous feature bloat of the Samsung S4 proves this point.
Note they already have CoverFlow in iTunes so I would guess the lines of code to pull the App icons would be much less than 100 to make this work. That said, I hope they don't do this. I've long wished that I could disable CoverFlow in Music nee iTunes as any tilt too much will switch to a view I hate using on iOS.
Fully agree sir, I don't like that either. In fact, I find it annoying. Good thing the iPhone 5 flips back portrait/landscape quicker that previous models.
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Originally Posted by Rogifan
^^
there are some good suggestions here, and I think a lot of them would make iOS more functional. I don't think they're just change for the sake of change. I'm not necessarily a fan of widgets but why does the home screen need to be a grid of apps? What if I wanted it to just show date/time/weather and the apps I use the most? Or access to most used settings. And have all my other apps on a different screen which could be organized alphabetically or by some category. And I'd only need to see them when I want to access one of those apps. There are things Apple can do which would benefit the user. If iOS was perfect Scott Forstall would still be at Apple.
Uh...Scott is still at Apple, last time i remember. And still being consulted as an Advisor to iOS development.
what you suggest alienates a lot of people that don't want the OS to automatically organize your apps for you.
Just a grid of Apps? Uh, your Mac is the same way and I don't hear anyone complaining about that? What would you suggest instead of a grid of Apps that easy to use in a single handed touch interface? The only way it could get more user-freindly would be to make it entirely Siri-friendly or telepathy.
If you can still post this without embarrassment after reading through this thread, then I guess I give up on your type.
Your type? Over-amped, ADD nervous system, with nothing better to do than play with your phone and whine about how it no longer gets you off. If you are bored with the OS of your iPhone, I suggest that the problem is with you.
I wouldn't bother criticizing you, but your junk meme is sucking in other people and causing a fictitious problem. Helping to tank the stock, I might add. Switch. Bye.
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Originally Posted by NexusPhan
I was talking about you not supporting AppleInsider with ads and trying to change the subject on me skipping past commercials on DVR. Nothing to do with Apple or Android.
I was the one who mentioned I would wager that you skipped commercials using a DVR....even though you currently don't have/use one, and you were the one who brought up that blocking GoogleAds was pathetic. I was just saying that you are (were) probably guilty of doing the same thing with TV ads. DVRs are not provided for free, the cost is built into the subscription and if you had one you would skip commercials. There is no doubt in my mind.
What difference does it make if one ignores the ads on AppleInsider or uses a plug-in to block them? Blocking them just serves to reduce clutter on the webpage.
Don't feed the concern trolls. It just makes it worse.
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Originally Posted by september11th
If Apple doesn't do something fresh and interesting with iOS 7 I'll be switching to an Android device. The new HTC One is very impressive. I like the iPhone quite a bit but I haven't been excited about anything they've done for years, found iOS5 and iOS6 very boring, increasingly scattered design mentality, and making me wonder what they are even doing over there with all the talent in the world coming up with very little each year.
Make sure to let Apple know about your ultimatum, I have no doubt they will take that into consideration and shift their entire product strategy to suit your specific wants.
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Originally Posted by bdkennedy1
Thank you for answering your own question.
Re-read my question. It remains unanswered.
Icons with realtime data would be nice too. Want to know the temperature? Look at the weather app icon which instead of the sun and 72 degrees it always displays as it's icon could be the actual temperature and weather... The clock could show you the actual time, or if you have a timer or stopwatch going, update in realtime. Sure, get a whole screen of icons that all want to tell you something and you have a mess but...
All of that said, I really DON'T like the whole Android widget thing. Weird mixed metaphor of icons and apps.
Blackberry's CEO telling anyone how to innovate in the phone market is like a 600lb man telling someone how to lose weight.
"Why mess with a good thing?" is probably what masters of Nokia/Symbian, RIM and Win CE were telling themselves when iOS, and later Android, hit the market.
After all, they had market share and were still selling good in the first year of iPhone availability, likely longer.
But I personally think you need to keep things fresh pro-actively, rather than wait for decline before you start acting. Of course, this is just my own point of view; I don't know how many others share it, if any significant number. But I do know that, running 3Gs with iOS6, I am really not inspired to get new iPhone. I don't care for features that require advanced hardware; I don't game on phone anything even remotely complex, I have dedicated camera in my pocket/bag/car all the time... but I would like improved functionality with base features - messages, calendar, contacts, email - and, save for higher res screen and snappier response, I would not get much with new iPhone from what I have now.
These are exact things I like with Windows 8 / WP8 tiles. I'm also not too enthusiastic with Android - in fact, after trying handful of widgets on my Android tablet, I have revered back to basic layout with no widgets. Probably lack of uniformity of widgets design is what doesn't work for me on Android.
So for me, tiles functionality presented in different (more Apple-esque?) way. I honestly don't know what that way should be, but then - there is a reason why I am not Jony Ive.
are we at apple going to fix this or do I buy the Z10 from bbry as I dont want to be hacked like this
NEWARK, N.J. %u2014 A man convicted of illegally gaining access to AT&T's servers and stealing more than 100,000 e-mail addresses of iPad users is facing sentencing.
Andrew Auernheimer is scheduled to appear in federal court in Newark today.
The former Arkansas resident was convicted in November of identity theft and conspiracy to gain unauthorized access to computers. Prosecutors are seeking a sentence of 33 to 41 months. Auernheimer's attorney says his client should receive probation.
Prosecutors say Auernheimer was part of an online group that tricked AT&T's website into divulging the email addresses, including those of New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, film mogul Harvey Weinstein and other celebrities.