This number is very much misleading. Those people were simply buying ultra portable notebook. They didn't look for a tablet...
However, it is more puzzling that Android share is so big. We have Galaxy Tab II and Nexus test units at work, it is unbelievable piece of crap. Everything: software and hardware. I guess the major share is going on cheap devices from Amazon to the bottom...
Whoever buys so-called premium Android tablet must be a very sick person that wakes up every morning with one sole purpose: to hate Apple.
Everything the average user wants is on android tablets for less money than an iPad.
It's no mystery why Android is repeating the whole Mac vs PC thing. We're seeing iOS decline just as Mac OS declined back in the day of Windows 95.
You mean: Apple hating user? Android tablets are just piece of crap. I'm working with so-called premium tablets at work and I can say I expected something will change in 3 years. Hasn't, really. It's still crap in a bit fancier package than back then.
It is of course no mystery that Android is gaining share. It will gain even more. Android serves as FOC OS for bunch of hardware manufacturers. Same as with PC, same principle, same crap. Serves the purpose of mass disctribution regardless to quality and experience. Serves the purpose of manufacturers, not the users.
I still want to know who is actually using all those Android tablets. With phones, you could always argue people just use them as feature phones to explain the 100's of million of missing phones in use but with tablets??? That just does not make sense to me.
I'm not following you.
My company has both iPhones and Androids and both are used in pretty much the same manner. Are you trying to insinuate that Android phones are not/cannot be used as smartphones?
Re tablets. I got my Android tablet (1st gen Asus Transformer) as a gift back in 2011, and I have been using it since. I don't think I will be buying another Android tablet, but regardless, this one served fine. In fact, I had 1st gen iPad for about 6 weeks in early 2011 (got it for my mother who lives overseas and was using it for mentioned period before visiting her), and I cannot say there was anything I could have done with iPad that I couldn't on that Android tablet - for my usage model.
I don't see a reson why majority of customers could not use either iPad or Android tablet, unless they require specific app that exists only on one platform. I know only one person so far, a friend who is a pilot amateur and uses some sort of piloting-navigational-map software (great replacement for a huge book of paper-printed maps) that does not exist on Android.
Full MS Office compatibility (or any other software being used in corporation)
AD and Group Policies friendly
Remote management/support same as on desktop/laptop
Easiest access to network shares, SharePoint, CRM...
Docking stations (on selected models) supporting external monitors, kbd/mouse, Ethernet
Same SSL VPN standards as with laptops.
If given company's IT is based on Windows tech, you'd really have to work hard to find a reason why not going for Win 8 Pro tablets. Comparable size, weight, battery life and price to iPads and Androids, with all the above mentioned advantages, and yes, those are huge advantages for business users.
I work in IT company. Regardless of both of my bosses having iPads and iPhones (and loving them), we have stopped recommending any other tablets to our customers beside Thinkpad Tablet 2 and, just recently, ElitePad 900. They can BYO if they want, but they usually listen to us as we do argue our recommendations well.
Full MS Office compatibility (or any other software being used in corporation)
AD and Group Policies friendly
Remote management/support same as on desktop/laptop
Easiest access to network shares, SharePoint, CRM...
Docking stations (on selected models) supporting external monitors, kbd/mouse, Ethernet
Same SSL VPN standards as with lapto
If given company's IT is based on Windows tech, you'd really have to work hard to find a reason why not going for Win 8 Pro tablets. Comparable size, weight, battery life and price to iPads and Androids, with all the above mentioned advantages, and yes, those are huge advantages for business users.
I work in IT company. Regardless of both of my bosses having iPads and iPhones (and loving them), we have stopped recommending any other tablets to our customers beside Thinkpad Tablet 2 and, just recently, ElitePad 900. They can BYO if they want, but they usually listen to us as we do argue our recommendations well.
You have quoted all the attributes of corporate PC, in this case notebook. THis is what I am saying: people who bought Slates were buying ultra portable notebooks. Concepts from your list have nothing to do with tablets. Tablets are not meant to be managed from IT administrator to justify its position.
From what you've written it is clear of course without explicitly saying that you work in IT infrastructure company. Such companies would not exist in such excess if there were no Microsoft and HP and similar. Suggesting ElitePad to customer instead of iPad serves primarily your purpose, not customers. I worked in such company for 10 years as well, I know rules of the game all too well.
My company has both iPhones and Androids and both are used in pretty much the same manner. Are you trying to insinuate that Android phones are not/cannot be used as smartphones?
Re tablets. I got my Android tablet (1st gen Asus Transformer) as a gift back in 2011, and I have been using it since. I don't think I will be buying another Android tablet, but regardless, this one served fine. In fact, I had 1st gen iPad for about 6 weeks in early 2011 (got it for my mother who lives overseas and was using it for mentioned period before visiting her), and I cannot say there was anything I could have done with iPad that I couldn't on that Android tablet - for my usage model.
I don't see a reson why majority of customers could not use either iPad or Android tablet, unless they require specific app that exists only on one platform. I know only one person so far, a friend who is a pilot amateur and uses some sort of piloting-navigational-map software (great replacement for a huge book of paper-printed maps) that does not exist on Android.
It depends on usage. I would never buy a device even for only 100 $ to be able just to surf the net as bad as it is possible or read a mail from now to then. But some people do. For me the end of usage of Android table starts when I swipe the screen and the latest monster model "coughs" when sliding almost empty screen with windows 3.11 - like icons....
I would reverse your point: why buying something for 100$ less if I can do the same and more in the best possible way on right device? I will tell you why. There are 3 reasons:
- never tried the right device
- was advised by a fried who "knows about computers" and never laid a hand on anything from Apple.
- got it in the mobile carrier package for less than free or when buying barbie doll
I couldn't disagree more. Nobody wants to use a tablet to create office documents. The screen and cover/keyboard offer a poor typing experience compared to today's desktops. It sounds like a good idea, but the experience will be rather cumbersome for anyone who wants to do real work. Tablets are and will remain consumption devices for the foreseeable future. It sounds like Apple has the right tack - maximize the experience. Microsoft is trying to leverage a product designed for a very different experience across its tablets. I predict a poor experience and dissatisfied users.
You are too focused on tablet itself.
Take a look at previously mentioned Lenovo ThinkPad Tablet 2 and HP ElitePad 900. Both have docking stations with LAN, monitor, USB ports. We have tested one is our office. If you don't multitask a lot (only 2GB of RAM), dual core Atom with Hypertreading can suffice. Outlook, Excel, Word... work fine. If you need more power, it also works great as thin client, remoting to terminal server. Either way, you will be using it on big desktop monitor, with desktop keyboard and mouse. Once you are done, you will pull it from dock, take it to meeting room or anywhere else, plug to flat screen or projector and run your PowerPoint presentation, show Excel spreadsheet to customer as you would show printouts, review document you were typing in desktop mode (or document someone else created and saved to SharePoint).
Or, you will have a PC (laptop or desktop) for office work/document creation ant tablet for document presentation/reviewing. Either way, you have 100% transparency with file compatibility and every other requirement your company's IT might have set. No document conversions, no formatting lost, no workarounds for anything.
I'm not saying that every office worker will have a tablet or completely move to tablet any time soon (or at all), but there are already many usage scenarios where current Windows tablets can do very well.
Take a look at previously mentioned Lenovo ThinkPad Tablet 2 and HP ElitePad 900. Both have docking stations with LAN, monitor, USB ports. We have tested one is our office. If you don't multitask a lot (only 2GB of RAM), dual core Atom with Hypertreading can suffice. Outlook, Excel, Word... work fine. If you need more power, it also works great as thin client, remoting to terminal server. Either way, you will be using it on big desktop monitor, with desktop keyboard and mouse. Once you are done, you will pull it from dock, take it to meeting room or anywhere else, plug to flat screen or projector and run your PowerPoint presentation, show Excel spreadsheet to customer as you would show printouts, review document you were typing in desktop mode (or document someone else created and saved to SharePoint).
Or, you will have a PC (laptop or desktop) for office work/document creation ant tablet for document presentation/reviewing. Either way, you have 100% transparency with file compatibility and every other requirement your company's IT might have set. No document conversions, no formatting lost, no workarounds for anything.
I'm not saying that every office worker will have a tablet or completely move to tablet any time soon (or at all), but there are already many usage scenarios where current Windows tablets can do very well.
Again, you are describing light notebook....I am not saying this will not happen. On contrary: I believe it will. I believe this will finally replace even the ultra light notebooks, but you have to understand the notebooks became wide-spreaded when they've finally dealt with tradeoffs compared to desktops. Same story here: unless tradeoffs are dealt with: no go.
But when this happen, tablets and the notebooks as we know them will be in demise. Only god knows what will happen even to keyboards.
You mean: Apple hating user? Android tablets are just piece of crap. I'm working with so-called premium tablets at work and I can say I expected something will change in 3 years. Hasn't, really. It's still crap in a bit fancier package than back then.
It is of course no mystery that Android is gaining share. It will gain even more. Android serves as FOC OS for bunch of hardware manufacturers. Same as with PC, same principle, same crap. Serves the purpose of mass disctribution regardless to quality and experience. Serves the purpose of manufacturers, not the users.
It is pretty much given you are Android hating user. Hard to take you seriously at all.
It depends on usage. I would never buy a device even for only 100 $ to be able just to surf the net as bad as it is possible or read a mail from now to then. But some people do. For me the end of usage of Android table starts when I swipe the screen and the latest monster model "coughs" when sliding almost empty screen with windows 3.11 - like icons....
I would reverse your point: why buying something for 100$ less if I can do the same and more in the best possible way on right device? I will tell you why. There are 3 reasons:
- never tried the right device
- was advised by a fried who "knows about computers" and never laid a hand on anything from Apple.
- got it in the mobile carrier package for less than free or when buying barbie doll
- pure ignorance
Take your pick.
OK, I'll take a bait. What "serious" things are you doing on your iPad?
Full MS Office compatibility (or any other software being used in corporation)
AD and Group Policies friendly
Remote management/support same as on desktop/laptop
Easiest access to network shares, SharePoint, CRM...
Docking stations (on selected models) supporting external monitors, kbd/mouse, Ethernet
Same SSL VPN standards as with laptops.
I can only presume there would be a congruence in software and hardware if they both come from a single manufacturer, but this is to be expected, no?
Again, you are describing light notebook....I am not saying this will not happen. On contrary: I believe it will. I believe this will finally replace even the ultra light notebooks, but you have to understand the notebooks became wide-spreaded when they've finally dealt with tradeoffs compared to desktops. Same story here: unless tradeoffs are dealt with: no go.
But when this happen, tablets and the notebooks as we know them will be in demise. Only god knows what will happen even to keyboards.
I am describing tablet you can streamline with your workflow. If you need to "translate" anything between tablet and computer, you are losing time, productivity and getting frustrated... so yes, you ideally want complete transparency between your "tools" in order to carry your work effectively.
For home users, less so. I mean, my tablet can be anything; I use it to find info (sometimes in web browser, sometimes in more specialised app), check email, exchange a few words with my friends on FB, read comic... there. My wife however, working at Uni, does review students' assignments, as well as (occasionally) papers sent for publishing to some scientific magazines, practice presentations (also occasionally) both at home and when commuting. Every document she receives come in MS Office format - here in NZ Macs are not too common, even among academics. For that reason only, our next tablet is most likely to be Windows 8 tablet.
Yes she can do all that on her laptop, but there is unquestionable advantage in simple, light slate form when you use it in public transport, or even your favourite armchair. Using Office and classic desktop will bring "complexity" of PC, but at least you have an option to do that. For my usage scenario, I'd probably be 100% in tablet (Metro/Modern) mode, which I'm personally finding very easy and sleek to use.
I can only presume there would be a congruence in software and hardware if they both come from a single manufacturer, but this is to be expected, no?
Not sure what you mean. Most our customers have standardised software. Hardware, not always - but it is handy. If, for example, you have same laptops (or in this case tablets) company-wide, you can easily hotdesk - plug your tablet to any available dock. Or has one dock in meeting room, connected to say 60" flat screen, where anyone with tablet can plug and use it.
So ideally, you'd want to have that scenario, if possible.
OK, I'll take a bait. What "serious" things are you doing on your iPad?
I write apps for iPad. Above other for mobile payment terminals, business reporting. I personally, as a user, Use it to access company databases, CRM and ERP, then I use it for fun as accessory when playing guitar.
However, this doesn't have much to do with the post you replied to. Even if I just play: why buying Android tablet for little less money than iPad? Please, explain if you think you know.
I am describing tablet you can streamline with your workflow. If you need to "translate" anything between tablet and computer, you are losing time, productivity and getting frustrated... so yes, you ideally want complete transparency between your "tools" in order to carry your work effectively.
For home users, less so. I mean, my tablet can be anything; I use it to find info (sometimes in web browser, sometimes in more specialised app), check email, exchange a few words with my friends on FB, read comic... there. My wife however, working at Uni, does review students' assignments, as well as (occasionally) papers sent for publishing to some scientific magazines, practice presentations (also occasionally) both at home and when commuting. Every document she receives come in MS Office format - here in NZ Macs are not too common, even among academics. For that reason only, our next tablet is most likely to be Windows 8 tablet.
Yes she can do all that on her laptop, but there is unquestionable advantage in simple, light slate form when you use it in public transport, or even your favourite armchair. Using Office and classic desktop will bring "complexity" of PC, but at least you have an option to do that. For my usage scenario, I'd probably be 100% in tablet (Metro/Modern) mode, which I'm personally finding very easy and sleek to use.
Different people, different scenarios.
I completely agree that transferring from device to device is frustrating. Putting everything into one device is bad idea. Microsoft style. Apple rather made first reallz usable cloud solution where could makes apps talk to each other, not just storing data. They add new apps every now and then and I expect Xcode to be fully integrated with it as well in a short time. Bu even now: entertainment, office and productivity application from Apple are all seamlessly integrated and I fell like having one computer in different forms. It is typical of Apple:until they figure out how to make it right, they don't make it at all. MS is vice a versa story.
It is pretty much given you are Android hating user. Hard to take you seriously at all.
Ridiculous. That is your presumption. I haven't even commented on Android until I started to develop on it. I just make comparison from all angles. I don't hate Android or anything else in the world for that matter. I just simply state and put arguments when claiming WHY I think Android tablet is crap. It doesn't have much to do with Samsung, of course.
However, so far, I haven't been given any smart argument on my postings from you, so should you be taken seriously?
I can only presume there would be a congruence in software and hardware if they both come from a single manufacturer, but this is to be expected, no?
Not sure what you mean. Most our customers have standardised software. Hardware, not always - but it is handy. If, for example, you have same laptops (or in this case tablets) company-wide, you can easily hotdesk - plug your tablet to any available dock. Or has one dock in meeting room, connected to say 60" flat screen, where anyone with tablet can plug and use it.
So ideally, you'd want to have that scenario, if possible.
Sorry for not being clear; what I meant: if you're managing a MS environment I presume the best tool would come from MS as well.
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This number is very much misleading. Those people were simply buying ultra portable notebook. They didn't look for a tablet...
However, it is more puzzling that Android share is so big. We have Galaxy Tab II and Nexus test units at work, it is unbelievable piece of crap. Everything: software and hardware. I guess the major share is going on cheap devices from Amazon to the bottom...
Whoever buys so-called premium Android tablet must be a very sick person that wakes up every morning with one sole purpose: to hate Apple.
Quote:
Originally Posted by 512ke
Everything the average user wants is on android tablets for less money than an iPad.
It's no mystery why Android is repeating the whole Mac vs PC thing. We're seeing iOS decline just as Mac OS declined back in the day of Windows 95.
You mean: Apple hating user? Android tablets are just piece of crap. I'm working with so-called premium tablets at work and I can say I expected something will change in 3 years. Hasn't, really. It's still crap in a bit fancier package than back then.
It is of course no mystery that Android is gaining share. It will gain even more. Android serves as FOC OS for bunch of hardware manufacturers. Same as with PC, same principle, same crap. Serves the purpose of mass disctribution regardless to quality and experience. Serves the purpose of manufacturers, not the users.
I'm not following you.
My company has both iPhones and Androids and both are used in pretty much the same manner. Are you trying to insinuate that Android phones are not/cannot be used as smartphones?
Re tablets. I got my Android tablet (1st gen Asus Transformer) as a gift back in 2011, and I have been using it since. I don't think I will be buying another Android tablet, but regardless, this one served fine. In fact, I had 1st gen iPad for about 6 weeks in early 2011 (got it for my mother who lives overseas and was using it for mentioned period before visiting her), and I cannot say there was anything I could have done with iPad that I couldn't on that Android tablet - for my usage model.
I don't see a reson why majority of customers could not use either iPad or Android tablet, unless they require specific app that exists only on one platform. I know only one person so far, a friend who is a pilot amateur and uses some sort of piloting-navigational-map software (great replacement for a huge book of paper-printed maps) that does not exist on Android.
Full MS Office compatibility (or any other software being used in corporation)
AD and Group Policies friendly
Remote management/support same as on desktop/laptop
Easiest access to network shares, SharePoint, CRM...
Docking stations (on selected models) supporting external monitors, kbd/mouse, Ethernet
Same SSL VPN standards as with laptops.
If given company's IT is based on Windows tech, you'd really have to work hard to find a reason why not going for Win 8 Pro tablets. Comparable size, weight, battery life and price to iPads and Androids, with all the above mentioned advantages, and yes, those are huge advantages for business users.
I work in IT company. Regardless of both of my bosses having iPads and iPhones (and loving them), we have stopped recommending any other tablets to our customers beside Thinkpad Tablet 2 and, just recently, ElitePad 900. They can BYO if they want, but they usually listen to us as we do argue our recommendations well.
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Originally Posted by nikon133
Full MS Office compatibility (or any other software being used in corporation)
AD and Group Policies friendly
Remote management/support same as on desktop/laptop
Easiest access to network shares, SharePoint, CRM...
Docking stations (on selected models) supporting external monitors, kbd/mouse, Ethernet
Same SSL VPN standards as with lapto
If given company's IT is based on Windows tech, you'd really have to work hard to find a reason why not going for Win 8 Pro tablets. Comparable size, weight, battery life and price to iPads and Androids, with all the above mentioned advantages, and yes, those are huge advantages for business users.
I work in IT company. Regardless of both of my bosses having iPads and iPhones (and loving them), we have stopped recommending any other tablets to our customers beside Thinkpad Tablet 2 and, just recently, ElitePad 900. They can BYO if they want, but they usually listen to us as we do argue our recommendations well.
You have quoted all the attributes of corporate PC, in this case notebook. THis is what I am saying: people who bought Slates were buying ultra portable notebooks. Concepts from your list have nothing to do with tablets. Tablets are not meant to be managed from IT administrator to justify its position.
From what you've written it is clear of course without explicitly saying that you work in IT infrastructure company. Such companies would not exist in such excess if there were no Microsoft and HP and similar. Suggesting ElitePad to customer instead of iPad serves primarily your purpose, not customers. I worked in such company for 10 years as well, I know rules of the game all too well.
Quote:
Originally Posted by nikon133
I'm not following you.
My company has both iPhones and Androids and both are used in pretty much the same manner. Are you trying to insinuate that Android phones are not/cannot be used as smartphones?
Re tablets. I got my Android tablet (1st gen Asus Transformer) as a gift back in 2011, and I have been using it since. I don't think I will be buying another Android tablet, but regardless, this one served fine. In fact, I had 1st gen iPad for about 6 weeks in early 2011 (got it for my mother who lives overseas and was using it for mentioned period before visiting her), and I cannot say there was anything I could have done with iPad that I couldn't on that Android tablet - for my usage model.
I don't see a reson why majority of customers could not use either iPad or Android tablet, unless they require specific app that exists only on one platform. I know only one person so far, a friend who is a pilot amateur and uses some sort of piloting-navigational-map software (great replacement for a huge book of paper-printed maps) that does not exist on Android.
It depends on usage. I would never buy a device even for only 100 $ to be able just to surf the net as bad as it is possible or read a mail from now to then. But some people do. For me the end of usage of Android table starts when I swipe the screen and the latest monster model "coughs" when sliding almost empty screen with windows 3.11 - like icons....
I would reverse your point: why buying something for 100$ less if I can do the same and more in the best possible way on right device? I will tell you why. There are 3 reasons:
- never tried the right device
- was advised by a fried who "knows about computers" and never laid a hand on anything from Apple.
- got it in the mobile carrier package for less than free or when buying barbie doll
- pure ignorance
Take your pick.
You are too focused on tablet itself.
Take a look at previously mentioned Lenovo ThinkPad Tablet 2 and HP ElitePad 900. Both have docking stations with LAN, monitor, USB ports. We have tested one is our office. If you don't multitask a lot (only 2GB of RAM), dual core Atom with Hypertreading can suffice. Outlook, Excel, Word... work fine. If you need more power, it also works great as thin client, remoting to terminal server. Either way, you will be using it on big desktop monitor, with desktop keyboard and mouse. Once you are done, you will pull it from dock, take it to meeting room or anywhere else, plug to flat screen or projector and run your PowerPoint presentation, show Excel spreadsheet to customer as you would show printouts, review document you were typing in desktop mode (or document someone else created and saved to SharePoint).
Or, you will have a PC (laptop or desktop) for office work/document creation ant tablet for document presentation/reviewing. Either way, you have 100% transparency with file compatibility and every other requirement your company's IT might have set. No document conversions, no formatting lost, no workarounds for anything.
I'm not saying that every office worker will have a tablet or completely move to tablet any time soon (or at all), but there are already many usage scenarios where current Windows tablets can do very well.
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Originally Posted by nikon133
You are too focused on tablet itself.
Take a look at previously mentioned Lenovo ThinkPad Tablet 2 and HP ElitePad 900. Both have docking stations with LAN, monitor, USB ports. We have tested one is our office. If you don't multitask a lot (only 2GB of RAM), dual core Atom with Hypertreading can suffice. Outlook, Excel, Word... work fine. If you need more power, it also works great as thin client, remoting to terminal server. Either way, you will be using it on big desktop monitor, with desktop keyboard and mouse. Once you are done, you will pull it from dock, take it to meeting room or anywhere else, plug to flat screen or projector and run your PowerPoint presentation, show Excel spreadsheet to customer as you would show printouts, review document you were typing in desktop mode (or document someone else created and saved to SharePoint).
Or, you will have a PC (laptop or desktop) for office work/document creation ant tablet for document presentation/reviewing. Either way, you have 100% transparency with file compatibility and every other requirement your company's IT might have set. No document conversions, no formatting lost, no workarounds for anything.
I'm not saying that every office worker will have a tablet or completely move to tablet any time soon (or at all), but there are already many usage scenarios where current Windows tablets can do very well.
Again, you are describing light notebook....I am not saying this will not happen. On contrary: I believe it will. I believe this will finally replace even the ultra light notebooks, but you have to understand the notebooks became wide-spreaded when they've finally dealt with tradeoffs compared to desktops. Same story here: unless tradeoffs are dealt with: no go.
But when this happen, tablets and the notebooks as we know them will be in demise. Only god knows what will happen even to keyboards.
It is pretty much given you are Android hating user. Hard to take you seriously at all.
OK, I'll take a bait. What "serious" things are you doing on your iPad?
I can only presume there would be a congruence in software and hardware if they both come from a single manufacturer, but this is to be expected, no?
I am describing tablet you can streamline with your workflow. If you need to "translate" anything between tablet and computer, you are losing time, productivity and getting frustrated... so yes, you ideally want complete transparency between your "tools" in order to carry your work effectively.
For home users, less so. I mean, my tablet can be anything; I use it to find info (sometimes in web browser, sometimes in more specialised app), check email, exchange a few words with my friends on FB, read comic... there. My wife however, working at Uni, does review students' assignments, as well as (occasionally) papers sent for publishing to some scientific magazines, practice presentations (also occasionally) both at home and when commuting. Every document she receives come in MS Office format - here in NZ Macs are not too common, even among academics. For that reason only, our next tablet is most likely to be Windows 8 tablet.
Yes she can do all that on her laptop, but there is unquestionable advantage in simple, light slate form when you use it in public transport, or even your favourite armchair. Using Office and classic desktop will bring "complexity" of PC, but at least you have an option to do that. For my usage scenario, I'd probably be 100% in tablet (Metro/Modern) mode, which I'm personally finding very easy and sleek to use.
Different people, different scenarios.
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Originally Posted by 512ke
Everything the average user wants is on android tablets for less money than an iPad.
It's no mystery why Android is repeating the whole Mac vs PC thing. We're seeing iOS decline just as Mac OS declined back in the day of Windows 95.
Since more and more iOS devices are being sold each quarter (YoY growth) and the ecosystem dominance and strength is only growing,
i find your post absolutely retarded.
Not sure what you mean. Most our customers have standardised software. Hardware, not always - but it is handy. If, for example, you have same laptops (or in this case tablets) company-wide, you can easily hotdesk - plug your tablet to any available dock. Or has one dock in meeting room, connected to say 60" flat screen, where anyone with tablet can plug and use it.
So ideally, you'd want to have that scenario, if possible.
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Originally Posted by nikon133
OK, I'll take a bait. What "serious" things are you doing on your iPad?
I write apps for iPad. Above other for mobile payment terminals, business reporting. I personally, as a user, Use it to access company databases, CRM and ERP, then I use it for fun as accessory when playing guitar.
However, this doesn't have much to do with the post you replied to. Even if I just play: why buying Android tablet for little less money than iPad? Please, explain if you think you know.
Quote:
Originally Posted by nikon133
I am describing tablet you can streamline with your workflow. If you need to "translate" anything between tablet and computer, you are losing time, productivity and getting frustrated... so yes, you ideally want complete transparency between your "tools" in order to carry your work effectively.
For home users, less so. I mean, my tablet can be anything; I use it to find info (sometimes in web browser, sometimes in more specialised app), check email, exchange a few words with my friends on FB, read comic... there. My wife however, working at Uni, does review students' assignments, as well as (occasionally) papers sent for publishing to some scientific magazines, practice presentations (also occasionally) both at home and when commuting. Every document she receives come in MS Office format - here in NZ Macs are not too common, even among academics. For that reason only, our next tablet is most likely to be Windows 8 tablet.
Yes she can do all that on her laptop, but there is unquestionable advantage in simple, light slate form when you use it in public transport, or even your favourite armchair. Using Office and classic desktop will bring "complexity" of PC, but at least you have an option to do that. For my usage scenario, I'd probably be 100% in tablet (Metro/Modern) mode, which I'm personally finding very easy and sleek to use.
Different people, different scenarios.
I completely agree that transferring from device to device is frustrating. Putting everything into one device is bad idea. Microsoft style. Apple rather made first reallz usable cloud solution where could makes apps talk to each other, not just storing data. They add new apps every now and then and I expect Xcode to be fully integrated with it as well in a short time. Bu even now: entertainment, office and productivity application from Apple are all seamlessly integrated and I fell like having one computer in different forms. It is typical of Apple:until they figure out how to make it right, they don't make it at all. MS is vice a versa story.
Quote:
Originally Posted by nikon133
It is pretty much given you are Android hating user. Hard to take you seriously at all.
Ridiculous. That is your presumption. I haven't even commented on Android until I started to develop on it. I just make comparison from all angles. I don't hate Android or anything else in the world for that matter. I just simply state and put arguments when claiming WHY I think Android tablet is crap. It doesn't have much to do with Samsung, of course.
However, so far, I haven't been given any smart argument on my postings from you, so should you be taken seriously?
Sorry for not being clear; what I meant: if you're managing a MS environment I presume the best tool would come from MS as well.
Ok, I'll play. I value businesses on my iPad. Happy to give you the name of the app that does it.
What "serious" things do you do with your computing devices?
Originally Posted by nikon133
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iWork. Why would I want Office?