I've never figured out why the iPad cannot receive calls.
Time for Apple to change that.
Because there are better ways to make a call than to use a 'phone' operator. They don't want to follow the tiranny of carriers. We should already all be using VOIP now.
And since you can't do the same, yours is also moot, so there's not much point in wanting such a feature, huh?
Unless, of course, neither is moot. What's the data on "people who use their tablets as phones", "people who want their tablets to be phones", "people who already know their tablets can be a phone but couldn't care less", and "people who think using a tablet as a phone is idiotic"? We need that data to be able to say for certain, but it's quite obvious the former is an extreme minority.
You were the first one to say that no one would use it without proof.
Anant. just gave his opinion based on his feeling and never said everybody would use it.
You are doing a terrible job, as usual.
About the tablet, I wouldn't buy it because I don't like touchwiz but I think that the tablet itself at least looks better than their phones.
Most Galaxy S 3, s4 or tab owners I know are middle aged, ailing eyesight, bought their device because they prefer its larger screen.
But still, wouldn't it be nice if we could take calls on the iPad. I think Apple should update iMessage and integrate your phone number in it. When someone calls your phone while you happen to be using your iPad, for instance, the call can automatically be forwarded to your iPad via LTE or Wifi. It'll be nice seeing them do away with phone numbers altogether. I'd only have to pay for my data plan. Screw separate phone bills
I've never figured out why the iPad cannot receive calls.
Time for Apple to change that.
Agreed. Seems obvious, yet at the same time would probably hurt sales of the iPhone. You can tell Samsung is really going for the lower end of the market. Here's a crazy idea, maybe some people dont have money for both.
I have to laugh at people saying it's such a bad idea. You can tell they are true Apple fanboys thinking Apple knows what is best for everyone. Sometimes I wonder if they ask Siri what they should do when they get up in the morning since they appear incapable of independent thought.
Samdung is firing on all the cylinders in desperation. Copying is hard when there is no clarity on what the competitors are doing!
I would not be surprised to see Samdung fail big time like nokia when Apple executes its plan smartly along with the future products and capture most of the middle class growing crowd in the emerging economies! People love American Company products no matter what the whiners says! Grapes are sour for Apple whiners all across the globe
Seems Samsung has way too many options, (while Apple should/likey to offer a couple more iPhone options) This new 7" Samsung tablet other than the phone, seems rather weak competition to the Mini.
Agreed. Seems obvious, yet at the same time would probably hurt sales of the iPhone. You can tell Samsung is really going for the lower end of the market. Here's a crazy idea, maybe some people dont have money for both.
I have to laugh at people saying it's such a bad idea. You can tell they are true Apple fanboys thinking Apple knows what is best for everyone. Sometimes I wonder if they ask Siri what they should do when they get up in the morning since they appear incapable of independent thought.
It was a compromise worked out with the carriers so that the iPad 3G would be a data plan did not have to be a contract (it is 1 month at a time) and it kept that data plan very affordable.
Next time before you mouth off about Apple fanboys maybe you should check your history (this all happened just a couple years ago). Check your history before throwing out "You can tell they are true Apple fanboys thinking Apple knows what is best for everyone". Troll somewhere else thank you.
You know what, at first when Scamsung started to dump all these different "Galaxy" models onto the market that all seemed to be cheap knock-off's of other brands, I would get upset with each new release, as I felt they were stealing from everyone, reaping all the rewards, and never getting caught or punished... But as they "raise the size bar" to new, inexplicably ridiculous levels, I just sit back and seriously laugh my head off!
It would seem they are trying to force the birth of the one-size-fits-all device, but seem to ignore the larger market which just last quarter showed that more than 60% of phones sold are in the 3.5" to 4.7" categories! Only a small percentage of people buy these phablets, and I personally know a few of them who have stated they now hate the unwieldy devices and intend to switch back to smaller alternatives in short order.
This fad is akin to baggy pants, which also now seem to be fading away (thank you jeebus)! I believe these mega phablets will die a quick death as well!
Not a "stupid idea" for everyone... I am 73 years old, retired... I receive/make only a few calls per day. During the grandkids soccer season (6 practices and 3 games per week) I carry an iPad and an iPhone. The phone calls are only used to co-ordinate pickups and game times, etc.
If the iPad could make/receive phone calls, I could carry only one device.. The iPad screen and kb better serve my old eyes and fat fingers!
BTW, As you mature you care more about results than how you look to others...
This wouldn't necessarily work. I want to be able to take the call on both devices as I don't always have my iPad with me. Others will only need to know the one published number; it would work very similar to iMessage and FaceTime. Yes, I know Google Voice would possibly work, except it introduces some delays, but I don't want a proxy number, for sure not one from Google. If it was a solidified Apple solution where I don't need to configure anything and it would be completely transparent to others, it might work. But that is almost impossible to implement world wide.
It was a compromise worked out with the carriers so that the iPad 3G would be a data plan did not have to be a contract (it is 1 month at a time) and it kept that data plan very affordable.
Next time before you mouth off about Apple fanboys maybe you should check your history (this all happened just a couple years ago). Check your history before throwing out "You can tell they are true Apple fanboys thinking Apple knows what is best for everyone". Troll somewhere else thank you.
What if you can only afford one? Try to imagine people in developing markets, they can barely afford a phone much less both. Look, you can go along with whatever Apple says you should think.. Fine with me, but the reality is having options is pretty important.
Sorry if I got your panties in a twist, but it's the truth. The fangirls like yourself are incapable of independent thought and whatever Apple does must be right. Well they went to a bigger iPhone for a reason even though for years the 3.5 inch was "perfect." By all means, dont exercise any independent thought, might hurt yourself at this point.
The fangirls like yourself are incapable of independent thought and whatever Apple does must be right.
Calling people fanboys and fangirls doesn't show you're capable of independent thought. If you had a valid point it's been lost by you pejorative declarations. At least be clever and creative with your gibes if you're going to make them.
I want to be able to take the call on both devices as I don't always have my iPad with me. Others will only need to know the one published number....
This might be tougher to implement in the US (one of the few countries with the stupid 'receiver pays' system of billing), but there's no reason why Apple couldn't make a killing implementing this in the rest of the world where the caller pays.
Calling people fanboys and fangirls doesn't show you're capable of independent thought. If you had a valid point it's been lost by you pejorative declarations. At least be clever and creative with your gibes if you're going to make them.
What else to call them? Drones? Lemmings? Plato's cave dwellers? They blindly agree with everything Apple does. People cite my history, well first of all I'm in the 70s in terms of number of posts and probably have an equal number of positive comments as well as criticisms.
Much like a 5+ inch phone, a tablet that can make calls would have to appeal to some people, no? So blindly saying it's a bad idea tells me all I need to know about the person's thought process. At the least they would need to do focus group studies to determine the popularity of the device and I'm willing to bet in lower income areas it would have appeal. I would bet others would have a reason to like it as well.
What if you can only afford one? Try to imagine people in developing markets, they can barely afford a phone much less both. Look, you can go along with whatever Apple says you should think.. Fine with me, but the reality is having options is pretty important.
Sorry if I got your panties in a twist, but it's the truth. The fangirls like yourself are incapable of independent thought and whatever Apple does must be right. Well they went to a bigger iPhone for a reason even though for years the 3.5 inch was "perfect." By all means, dont exercise any independent thought, might hurt yourself at this point.
Apple is not in the race for serving poor class. Rich people already own all the latest apple products. Apple is going after growing middle class who dream of having American Products in their hands! Samdung stands nowhere in that mental race!
This might be tougher to implement in the US (one of the few countries with the stupid 'receiver pays' system of billing), but there's no reason why Apple couldn't make a killing implementing this in the rest of the world where the caller pays.
Sure, they have the technical capability so they could do it, but that sounds a lot like most arguments against Apple's choices. Why can't they make a 5" iPhone? Why can't they open up iOS? Why can't they make a cheaper Mac Pro? Why can't they make a 15" iPad? Why can't they add a user-accessible file system to iOS?
It all falls under what they think is right move to make. Apple historically thinks more globally than Samsung and other vendors. Samsung has no problem with having dozens of devices in the same class that fit for different markets, market segments and countries. For better or worse Apple wants to make one device that fits well everywhere. If they add voice calling as a feature to their iPads their longstanding modi operandi has been to make this work everywhere.
Does including that option mean they have to pay additional royalties and licensing fees for that option? Does that mean users in the US (or other countries) can't just enable data on their iPads but also have to get a voice plan to go with it? I certainly see no reason why Apple can't add this an optional feature but I also don't have enough information to make that determination.
PS: I wouldn't be surprised to see a low-cost iPhone for China, India, Brasil et al. which would mean a departure from their standard MO. I think this is the first year it's really feasible if they want to continue to grow the brand, so we'll see.
I use Skype all the time. It is more ubiquitous than iMessage, FaceTime, or Google Voice ( the latter I have never used though) and a lot less expensive than international SMS or traditional phone calls. It also works on almost any modern device which is why so many people who call internationally have it installed. Skype was pretty buggy on the original iOS but the latest version works really well. I've been using the paid minutes and virtual phone number for Skype for several years now.
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The old brain having some trouble processing basic logical functions this morning?
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Originally Posted by anantksundaram
I've never figured out why the iPad cannot receive calls.
Time for Apple to change that.
Because there are better ways to make a call than to use a 'phone' operator. They don't want to follow the tiranny of carriers. We should already all be using VOIP now.
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
And since you can't do the same, yours is also moot, so there's not much point in wanting such a feature, huh?
Unless, of course, neither is moot. What's the data on "people who use their tablets as phones", "people who want their tablets to be phones", "people who already know their tablets can be a phone but couldn't care less", and "people who think using a tablet as a phone is idiotic"? We need that data to be able to say for certain, but it's quite obvious the former is an extreme minority.
You were the first one to say that no one would use it without proof.
Anant. just gave his opinion based on his feeling and never said everybody would use it.
You are doing a terrible job, as usual.
About the tablet, I wouldn't buy it because I don't like touchwiz but I think that the tablet itself at least looks better than their phones.
Originally Posted by anantksundaram
The old brain having some trouble processing basic logical functions this morning?
I'll ask the same of you.
Most Galaxy S 3, s4 or tab owners I know are middle aged, ailing eyesight, bought their device because they prefer its larger screen.
But still, wouldn't it be nice if we could take calls on the iPad. I think Apple should update iMessage and integrate your phone number in it. When someone calls your phone while you happen to be using your iPad, for instance, the call can automatically be forwarded to your iPad via LTE or Wifi. It'll be nice seeing them do away with phone numbers altogether. I'd only have to pay for my data plan. Screw separate phone bills
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Originally Posted by anantksundaram
I've never figured out why the iPad cannot receive calls.
Time for Apple to change that.
Agreed. Seems obvious, yet at the same time would probably hurt sales of the iPhone. You can tell Samsung is really going for the lower end of the market. Here's a crazy idea, maybe some people dont have money for both.
I have to laugh at people saying it's such a bad idea. You can tell they are true Apple fanboys thinking Apple knows what is best for everyone. Sometimes I wonder if they ask Siri what they should do when they get up in the morning since they appear incapable of independent thought.
Samdung is firing on all the cylinders in desperation. Copying is hard when there is no clarity on what the competitors are doing!
I would not be surprised to see Samdung fail big time like nokia when Apple executes its plan smartly along with the future products and capture most of the middle class growing crowd in the emerging economies! People love American Company products no matter what the whiners says! Grapes are sour for Apple whiners all across the globe
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Originally Posted by tkell31
Agreed. Seems obvious, yet at the same time would probably hurt sales of the iPhone. You can tell Samsung is really going for the lower end of the market. Here's a crazy idea, maybe some people dont have money for both.
I have to laugh at people saying it's such a bad idea. You can tell they are true Apple fanboys thinking Apple knows what is best for everyone. Sometimes I wonder if they ask Siri what they should do when they get up in the morning since they appear incapable of independent thought.
It was a compromise worked out with the carriers so that the iPad 3G would be a data plan did not have to be a contract (it is 1 month at a time) and it kept that data plan very affordable.
Next time before you mouth off about Apple fanboys maybe you should check your history (this all happened just a couple years ago). Check your history before throwing out "You can tell they are true Apple fanboys thinking Apple knows what is best for everyone". Troll somewhere else thank you.
You know what, at first when Scamsung started to dump all these different "Galaxy" models onto the market that all seemed to be cheap knock-off's of other brands, I would get upset with each new release, as I felt they were stealing from everyone, reaping all the rewards, and never getting caught or punished... But as they "raise the size bar" to new, inexplicably ridiculous levels, I just sit back and seriously laugh my head off!
It would seem they are trying to force the birth of the one-size-fits-all device, but seem to ignore the larger market which just last quarter showed that more than 60% of phones sold are in the 3.5" to 4.7" categories! Only a small percentage of people buy these phablets, and I personally know a few of them who have stated they now hate the unwieldy devices and intend to switch back to smaller alternatives in short order.
This fad is akin to baggy pants, which also now seem to be fading away (thank you jeebus)! I believe these mega phablets will die a quick death as well!
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Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum
Not a "stupid idea" for everyone... I am 73 years old, retired... I receive/make only a few calls per day. During the grandkids soccer season (6 practices and 3 games per week) I carry an iPad and an iPhone. The phone calls are only used to co-ordinate pickups and game times, etc.
If the iPad could make/receive phone calls, I could carry only one device.. The iPad screen and kb better serve my old eyes and fat fingers!
BTW, As you mature you care more about results than how you look to others...
This wouldn't necessarily work. I want to be able to take the call on both devices as I don't always have my iPad with me. Others will only need to know the one published number; it would work very similar to iMessage and FaceTime. Yes, I know Google Voice would possibly work, except it introduces some delays, but I don't want a proxy number, for sure not one from Google. If it was a solidified Apple solution where I don't need to configure anything and it would be completely transparent to others, it might work. But that is almost impossible to implement world wide.
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Originally Posted by Damn_Its_Hot
It was a compromise worked out with the carriers so that the iPad 3G would be a data plan did not have to be a contract (it is 1 month at a time) and it kept that data plan very affordable.
Next time before you mouth off about Apple fanboys maybe you should check your history (this all happened just a couple years ago). Check your history before throwing out "You can tell they are true Apple fanboys thinking Apple knows what is best for everyone". Troll somewhere else thank you.
What if you can only afford one? Try to imagine people in developing markets, they can barely afford a phone much less both. Look, you can go along with whatever Apple says you should think.. Fine with me, but the reality is having options is pretty important.
Sorry if I got your panties in a twist, but it's the truth. The fangirls like yourself are incapable of independent thought and whatever Apple does must be right. Well they went to a bigger iPhone for a reason even though for years the 3.5 inch was "perfect." By all means, dont exercise any independent thought, might hurt yourself at this point.
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Originally Posted by tkell31
Seems obvious, yet at the same time would probably hurt sales of the iPhone.
Excellent point. Didn't think of that.
That said, Apple has never been shy about self-cannibalizing.
Calling people fanboys and fangirls doesn't show you're capable of independent thought. If you had a valid point it's been lost by you pejorative declarations. At least be clever and creative with your gibes if you're going to make them.
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Originally Posted by TheDutch67
I want to be able to take the call on both devices as I don't always have my iPad with me. Others will only need to know the one published number....
This might be tougher to implement in the US (one of the few countries with the stupid 'receiver pays' system of billing), but there's no reason why Apple couldn't make a killing implementing this in the rest of the world where the caller pays.
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Originally Posted by SolipsismX
Calling people fanboys and fangirls doesn't show you're capable of independent thought. If you had a valid point it's been lost by you pejorative declarations. At least be clever and creative with your gibes if you're going to make them.
What else to call them? Drones? Lemmings? Plato's cave dwellers? They blindly agree with everything Apple does. People cite my history, well first of all I'm in the 70s in terms of number of posts and probably have an equal number of positive comments as well as criticisms.
Much like a 5+ inch phone, a tablet that can make calls would have to appeal to some people, no? So blindly saying it's a bad idea tells me all I need to know about the person's thought process. At the least they would need to do focus group studies to determine the popularity of the device and I'm willing to bet in lower income areas it would have appeal. I would bet others would have a reason to like it as well.
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Originally Posted by tkell31
What if you can only afford one? Try to imagine people in developing markets, they can barely afford a phone much less both. Look, you can go along with whatever Apple says you should think.. Fine with me, but the reality is having options is pretty important.
Sorry if I got your panties in a twist, but it's the truth. The fangirls like yourself are incapable of independent thought and whatever Apple does must be right. Well they went to a bigger iPhone for a reason even though for years the 3.5 inch was "perfect." By all means, dont exercise any independent thought, might hurt yourself at this point.
Apple is not in the race for serving poor class. Rich people already own all the latest apple products. Apple is going after growing middle class who dream of having American Products in their hands! Samdung stands nowhere in that mental race!
Sure, they have the technical capability so they could do it, but that sounds a lot like most arguments against Apple's choices. Why can't they make a 5" iPhone? Why can't they open up iOS? Why can't they make a cheaper Mac Pro? Why can't they make a 15" iPad? Why can't they add a user-accessible file system to iOS?
It all falls under what they think is right move to make. Apple historically thinks more globally than Samsung and other vendors. Samsung has no problem with having dozens of devices in the same class that fit for different markets, market segments and countries. For better or worse Apple wants to make one device that fits well everywhere. If they add voice calling as a feature to their iPads their longstanding modi operandi has been to make this work everywhere.
Does including that option mean they have to pay additional royalties and licensing fees for that option? Does that mean users in the US (or other countries) can't just enable data on their iPads but also have to get a voice plan to go with it? I certainly see no reason why Apple can't add this an optional feature but I also don't have enough information to make that determination.
PS: I wouldn't be surprised to see a low-cost iPhone for China, India, Brasil et al. which would mean a departure from their standard MO. I think this is the first year it's really feasible if they want to continue to grow the brand, so we'll see.
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Originally Posted by ClemyNX
We should already all be using VOIP now.
I use Skype all the time. It is more ubiquitous than iMessage, FaceTime, or Google Voice ( the latter I have never used though) and a lot less expensive than international SMS or traditional phone calls. It also works on almost any modern device which is why so many people who call internationally have it installed. Skype was pretty buggy on the original iOS but the latest version works really well. I've been using the paid minutes and virtual phone number for Skype for several years now.