Various places (including AI) live blog the event. I was suggesting watching one or more of those.
The Verge does really good coverage, I went to them for D11, CNet has live video coverage but with snarky commentary, and I'm just hoping the WWDC is live streamed at Apple's website or the app. But yeah, there are lots of sources, like BGR, Techcrunch, Gigaom, and even Marketwatch. Appleinsider should get live coverage of it, but it doesn't, maybe cultofmac, 9to5mac, or macrumors do, but I don't visit their communities.
I'm confused...I saw the App update, but where have they indicated intention of streaming the keynote live? That seems to be what's implied here.
I usually watch the blow by blows connected to a couple of different web sites at the same time. Yes that is pathetic.
As to live streaming I don't believe they will do that this WWDC. However they have said that they intend to get many of the videos up very quick even the same day. Alive stream would be nice though. To save on bandwidth I will probably be at the library downloading the important videos.
I think his was sarcasm of some sort, given that some of those parts are basically impossible in such a solution. E7s are used in quad socket servers and basically 0 workstations. They also come out later. The thunderbolt display should come with usb3. I suspect it will mimic the current imac chassis and screen treatment. If the glare reduction is as great as others have stated, that would be a much needed improvement. I guess it could always be put off until the next thunderbolt chipset, but all that allows for is 4k by combining channels. It doesn't go to PCIe 3 bandwidth until later.
I've just returned from a west coast visit to an old college buddy, who is a worker bee at a colossal fx studio that buys hundreds of Mac Pro's each year. Occasionally this studio is graced with an Apple test mule, which normally is nothing exciting, just the same old tower with a new logic board and Xeons. Added to that, my buddy doesn't work in "the cage" where only a select few use the test mules. But he does occasionally collaborate with those lucky few who do!
So last month he's in the cage, and there's a big freakin' cube in there. At first glance, he didn't think it was a Mac, but upon further study it sure seemed like an Ives design. Another guy noticed him studying it and said, "that's Steve's baby, right there! It's not a Mac, either. It's an Apple Pro!"
Yes, Jobs wanted one last go at the Cube before he finally logged out. We all know how much Jobs hates tower computers, and the Mac Pro was no exception. My buddy says he really nailed it with this one, it's flat-out the most perfect desktop design he's ever used.
As far design, the Apple Pro is a direct descendant of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Next_cube"> NeXTcube.</a> 12", cubed. Aluminum, anodized black (or maybe gunmetal grey, hard to say with the lighting). Vents ring the top of the cube's sides, so it's stackable. The cube was stacked on another half cube, only six inches high. How to easily stack it? Handles slide out from the bottom. Slick.
Components are accessed by removing either the left or right side panels. Left side for RAM, CPU, and HDs. Right side for PCIe sockets. One 3.5 GHz Ivy Bridge processor. Only two tiny HD bays, this sucker runs SSDs off the PCIe bus, and in this test mule, there was built-in hardware RAID support, no extra PCIe card needed. Three PCIe slots, two of which were used by video cards, with one remaining. No extra-long PCIe card support, unfortunately. It wouldn't be a true Apple product if it wasn't gimped in some way. Optical drives? What, and ruin the perfection of the cube's faces? Looks like it's external optical drives for any professional who, God forbid, want to burn a project onto Blu-ray.
The half cube was styled exactly like the cube. It's a six drive Thunderbolt RAID enclosure. A proprietary connector links the RAID half cube to the cube, so it powers on and off with the cube. There's also means to manually power it on and off so it can be used with any computer. Slick.
Now for the coolest part: the guys says to my buddy, what we're really testing is the new Apple Galaxy system. Huh? He points across the room. On a desk are two four foot stacks of cubes. The anodized aluminum and cube designs conspire to make the towering stacks into works of art. The guy says, one stack of four cubes will costs us about the same as a high-end Mac Pro, and we can add cubes and half cubes one at a time as we need more power. Galaxy is incredible, he says. They've been working on beta versions of Galaxy for years, but now with the cubes it finally makes sense. My buddy says, "The Apple Pro with Galaxy will enable Apple to finally conquer the creative studio market" They're more powerful than Mac Pros, more expandable, cheaper, and damn sexy.
The chatter is that Steve had a hell of a time getting this project authorized. Mac Pro sales are "in the thousands" and Steve was the only one at Apple who wanted to have another go at the desktop market. It's widely believed that this cube was only given the final go upon Steve's death, as it was his last wish.
Innovation must have got out a couple of floors earlier on the way down.
Tim said no new hardware until the fall. Updated hardware is kind of new but not really elevator-worthy. Most likely hardware update is a drop-in upgrade for the laptops to Haswell. If Apple goes with a ULV version of Haswell like the following for the Air, it will be disappointing in terms of performance:
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Tim said no new hardware until the fall. Updated hardware is kind of new but not really elevator-worthy. Most likely hardware update is a drop-in upgrade for the laptops to Haswell. If Apple goes with a ULV version of Haswell like the following for the Air, it will be disappointing in terms of performance:
Yeah but who believed that? After all fall is a long ways off even if it feels like it temperature wise.
As to performance I've seen some testing that actually shows a performance regression on some benchmarks. That was on Linux however and could be the result of driver issues. So yeah if expectations are high people might end up disappointed.
????
but the battery life will be improved. I reckon battery life will be advertised as 10 hours instead of 7.
Graphics performance and battery life are of course the flip side. Since the GPU is more important than some want to admit, these two improvements will make many users very happy. Once people realize just how much of an advancement is seen here I suspect the new AIRs will sell like hotcakes.
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Originally Posted by Bergermeister
Various places (including AI) live blog the event. I was suggesting watching one or more of those.
Ah. Thanks. Such would be the norm. What was I reading indicated something more.
I usually set it to Engadget and let it do its magic. With a 27" screen, I have something else off to the side that I am working on.
I usually watch the blow by blows connected to a couple of different web sites at the same time. Yes that is pathetic.
As to live streaming I don't believe they will do that this WWDC. However they have said that they intend to get many of the videos up very quick even the same day. Alive stream would be nice though. To save on bandwidth I will probably be at the library downloading the important videos.
I don't have a 27" iMac... but I ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ !!!
36 hours to go. Minus a little.
Had a dream:
OS X.9 intro
You're gonna want a new MacPro to run it on
or a new MacBook
oh and everything else updated to be optimal, too
And as you're so happy, you might be moved to sing
Logic Pro X
Then I woke up.
Who really gives a dam about Haswell !
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Originally Posted by MacRonin
So, shall we say Technological Preview of the All-New Extra-Shiny Mac Pro at WWDC MMXIII, shipping of same sometime in September…?
Dual Xeon E7 Haswell octo-core CPUs
256GB DDR4 ECC RAM
SuperBluRayDrive
Onboard hardware RAID controller
(4) 5TB HDDs
Bootable Fusion-io ioFX 1.6TB SSD PCIe card
nVidia Quadro K6000 GPU PCIe card
nVidia Tesla K20 GPU co-processor PCIe card
Intel Xeon Phi CPU co-processor PCIe card
USB 3
ThunderBolt 2
BlueTooth
Gigabit WiFi
1000BaseT Ethernet
31" 4K/UltraHD ThunderBolt 2 Cinema Display
Should be, what…? No more than around 35 grand…!?! ;^p
That would be AWESOME. Do not forget:
Thunderbolt display with USB 3 hub.
Extended numerical keyboard with USB 3 hub.
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Originally Posted by AppeX
That would be AWESOME. Do not forget:
Thunderbolt display with USB 3 hub.
Extended numerical keyboard with USB 3 hub.
I think his was sarcasm of some sort, given that some of those parts are basically impossible in such a solution. E7s are used in quad socket servers and basically 0 workstations. They also come out later. The thunderbolt display should come with usb3. I suspect it will mimic the current imac chassis and screen treatment. If the glare reduction is as great as others have stated, that would be a much needed improvement. I guess it could always be put off until the next thunderbolt chipset, but all that allows for is 4k by combining channels. It doesn't go to PCIe 3 bandwidth until later.
A day to go.
And still no elevator pictures.
http://forums.appleinsider.com/t/144783/confirmed-mac-pro-is-history-succeeded-by-jobs-final-project
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Originally Posted by Junkyard Dawg
I've just returned from a west coast visit to an old college buddy, who is a worker bee at a colossal fx studio that buys hundreds of Mac Pro's each year. Occasionally this studio is graced with an Apple test mule, which normally is nothing exciting, just the same old tower with a new logic board and Xeons. Added to that, my buddy doesn't work in "the cage" where only a select few use the test mules. But he does occasionally collaborate with those lucky few who do!
So last month he's in the cage, and there's a big freakin' cube in there. At first glance, he didn't think it was a Mac, but upon further study it sure seemed like an Ives design. Another guy noticed him studying it and said, "that's Steve's baby, right there! It's not a Mac, either. It's an Apple Pro!"
Yes, Jobs wanted one last go at the Cube before he finally logged out. We all know how much Jobs hates tower computers, and the Mac Pro was no exception. My buddy says he really nailed it with this one, it's flat-out the most perfect desktop design he's ever used.
As far design, the Apple Pro is a direct descendant of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Next_cube"> NeXTcube.</a> 12", cubed. Aluminum, anodized black (or maybe gunmetal grey, hard to say with the lighting). Vents ring the top of the cube's sides, so it's stackable. The cube was stacked on another half cube, only six inches high. How to easily stack it? Handles slide out from the bottom. Slick.
Components are accessed by removing either the left or right side panels. Left side for RAM, CPU, and HDs. Right side for PCIe sockets. One 3.5 GHz Ivy Bridge processor. Only two tiny HD bays, this sucker runs SSDs off the PCIe bus, and in this test mule, there was built-in hardware RAID support, no extra PCIe card needed. Three PCIe slots, two of which were used by video cards, with one remaining. No extra-long PCIe card support, unfortunately. It wouldn't be a true Apple product if it wasn't gimped in some way. Optical drives? What, and ruin the perfection of the cube's faces? Looks like it's external optical drives for any professional who, God forbid, want to burn a project onto Blu-ray.
The half cube was styled exactly like the cube. It's a six drive Thunderbolt RAID enclosure. A proprietary connector links the RAID half cube to the cube, so it powers on and off with the cube. There's also means to manually power it on and off so it can be used with any computer. Slick.
Now for the coolest part: the guys says to my buddy, what we're really testing is the new Apple Galaxy system. Huh? He points across the room. On a desk are two four foot stacks of cubes. The anodized aluminum and cube designs conspire to make the towering stacks into works of art. The guy says, one stack of four cubes will costs us about the same as a high-end Mac Pro, and we can add cubes and half cubes one at a time as we need more power. Galaxy is incredible, he says. They've been working on beta versions of Galaxy for years, but now with the cubes it finally makes sense. My buddy says, "The Apple Pro with Galaxy will enable Apple to finally conquer the creative studio market" They're more powerful than Mac Pros, more expandable, cheaper, and damn sexy.
The chatter is that Steve had a hell of a time getting this project authorized. Mac Pro sales are "in the thousands" and Steve was the only one at Apple who wanted to have another go at the desktop market. It's widely believed that this cube was only given the final go upon Steve's death, as it was his last wish.
Uh oh, elevator's empty:
Innovation must have got out a couple of floors earlier on the way down.
Tim said no new hardware until the fall. Updated hardware is kind of new but not really elevator-worthy. Most likely hardware update is a drop-in upgrade for the laptops to Haswell. If Apple goes with a ULV version of Haswell like the following for the Air, it will be disappointing in terms of performance:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7047/the-haswell-ultrabook-review-core-i74500u-tested/5
but the battery life will be improved. I reckon battery life will be advertised as 10 hours instead of 7.
Originally Posted by Marvin
I reckon battery life will be advertised as 10 hours instead of 7.
Ten hours on and a month of standby across the entire laptop line… can you imagine?!
The lack of leaks may be the most impressive thing about WWDC this year.
Originally Posted by wizard69
The lack of leaks may be the most impressive thing about WWDC this year.
"M-m-m-maybe there's nothing TO leak!" ????
/s, of course.
As to performance I've seen some testing that actually shows a performance regression on some benchmarks. That was on Linux however and could be the result of driver issues. So yeah if expectations are high people might end up disappointed.
????
Graphics performance and battery life are of course the flip side. Since the GPU is more important than some want to admit, these two improvements will make many users very happy. Once people realize just how much of an advancement is seen here I suspect the new AIRs will sell like hotcakes.
That would be very sad indeed.
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Originally Posted by wizard69
That would be very sad indeed.
16 hours 50 minutes.... why must time go so slow.
Watching bates motel and movies to pass the time. got greasy popcorn fingers right now.
watching "Warm Bodies."
Edit: iOS 7 settings "leaked screenshot
Originally Posted by darkdefender
16 hours 50 minutes.... why must time go so slow.
Watching bates motel and movies to pass the time. got greasy popcorn fingers right now.
watching "Warm Bodies."
You're gonna stay up? Unless you're Cook/Schiller/Federighi and all psyched up, I can't see why.
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
You're gonna stay up? Unless you're Cook/Schiller/Federighi and all psyched up, I can't see why.
I thought you would be one of his few supporters.