Apple didn’t licence in the “early 1990’s”, if it had it might have increased market share, it licenced in the late 1990’s after the plunge.
Lots of errors in your so called facts and corrections. The first clones showed up in early 1995 so planning had to have started in 1994. I remember a presentation in mid 1994 showing a prototype Mac Clone so the date is really early to late 1990's so your "late 1990's is actually the date the program was aborted.
You could continue on your so called "facts" pointing out the fact you really do not understand or remember the chain of events very well.
It's not about physical differences, it's all about different concept. it took me quite a long to realize what Apple actually wanted to achieve: zero admin computer. What is BS on the "normal" computer and unachievable goal, was skillfully achieved on new device on new form factor? Why so late? Why on mobile device? Because mobile device is all about resources, easy of use and efficiency. That's why touch screen and zero maintenance approach with everything being available on the tip of your finger including auto installation apps and complete ecosystem.
These devices need to be ultra efficient for people to use it on the way, where they don't sit comfortably and have enormous amount of time to resolve usual "desktop computer" problems.
I can accept that Apple wants to make tablets require zero admin. But what concepts which are acceptable on already highly efficient, portable computers, like the MBA, would cause headaches on a smaller touchscreen device? Let me bring up again the example of downloading files to a common storage area. The difference between that and opening a file immediately in another app is essentially the difference between opening a file now or saving it for later. Does the latter procedure inherently require more admin on a touch-screen device than on a device with a trackpad and keyboard?
I am going to add to the WinTel era comment. The problem was Microsoft were never that great as an engineering company comparatively speaking. Google is much more engineered focus, they are a much more powerful enemy then Microsoft.
The battle isn't even the same. I just hope Apple will also win out in the end.
I think we just heard from the Samsung representative. Maybe he didn't get this months check? Perhaps Samsung is having trouble making their normal payments?
I like the idea that the bright light/white display is to take advantage of Apple's display while making sure the OLED will kill its batteries trying the same.
If this came out during the iPhone 3GS/4 days, it might have stopped Samsung. Better late than never though.
Good point, a move to IGZO could results in a UI look that will be hard to replicate even with the new low power super LCD and amoled.
Let's see what great apps Android users are missing out on
Top Paid Apps
1. WhatsApp Msgr
2. Minecraft
3. Where's My Mickey?
4. Heads Up!
5. SponggeBob Moves In
6. Contra:Evolution
7. Icebreaker: A Viking Voyage
8. Facetune
9. AfterLight
10. Kick the Buddy: No Mercy
Top Free Apps
1. Despicable Me: Minions Rush
2. Sprinkle: Water splashing game
3. Candy Crush Saga
4. Nick
5.Google Maps (who would've thunk?)
6. Escape If You Can
7. Secret Passages: Hidden Objects
8. Battery Saver (wait, what? really?)
9. Vine
10. Can You Escape
Top Grossing Apps
1. Candy Crush Saga
2. Clash of Clans
3. Pandora
4. Modern War
5. MARVEL War of Heroes
6. The Simpsons: Tapped Out
7. Hay Day
8. Kingdoms Of Camelot
9. Minecraft
10. DoubleDown Casino
Looks like the vast majority of people use their iPhones as a glorified hand held gaming device. It really doesn't look like Androiders are missing much.
Unless Androids like games too. In which case they are missing out. Icebreaker 2 rocks.
I like the idea that the bright light/white display is to take advantage of Apple's display while making sure the OLED will kill its batteries trying the same.
Before the show, I predicted that J. Ive would go for light / white just for that reason.
However, someone else then pointed out that Google Now uses bright colors on a white background, so apparently they're not that worried about extra power usage.
I got halfway through and realised it was simply all 'internalised promotion material'.
It completely forgets Apple's problem is the web and the fact that while Google makes up a major part of the web Apple has fat too low a presence here.
I'd suggest Google needed Android for the web so Android works because it is such a major part of the web. IOS now has a major world problem, that being that world sales are emulating the history of Blackberry and Symbian. Apple's low web presence might in fact make it it a long slow process to recovery.
I got halfway through and realised it was simply all 'internalised promotion material'. It completely forgets Apple's problem is the web and the fact that while Google makes up a major part of the web Apple has fat too low a presence here. I'd suggest Google needed Android for the web so Android works because it is such a major part of the web. IOS now has a major world problem, that being that world sales are emulating the history of Blackberry and Symbian. Apple's low web presence might in fact make it it a long slow process to recovery.
Low web presence? I personally still use Gmail, but for everything else that I would ever use, there's an Apple alternative, or a third-party app. Unless you're talking search. But that's device agnostic.
Don't forget that to a large extent, apps are a paradigm shift from how we use the Internet. And Apple is definitely dominant in that regard.
Apple is "losing" market share worldwide, not because they're losing customers but because the market is rapidly expanding. And the majority of expansion is in poorer markets with low-end feature "smart" phones. Which isn't a market Apple is currently focusing in.
This is one of the better pieces I have read analyzing the playing field both past, future and present. Most writers are truly clueless whether pro or anti apple. Some, like this writer, seem to have been around long enough to learn the history and be able to see what is right in front of them. Most "analysts" fall flat when trying to understand these things. So I say very nice job to this writer for a well done article/analysis.
I have to add something very obvious and slightly off topic that apple should do (NOW) and once they do everyone will say "why didn't they, or anyone do this before?". Solve battery life. How? Use the new MacBook Air CPU clustering to cut down on power AND (this is the big one) put a larger battery on the phone. I use a mophie case to double my battery. A built in battery would bulk the phone up but it would be a fraction of the mophie case.
Give users and road warriors a choice here. Make a standard thin phone to show what you can do but add a millimeter or two and squeeze more lipo in those native iPhones. If you could double the battery life of an iPhone you would smoke everyone out there. The race is not to be the smallest/thinnest but for some to actually have enough battery so it is not a brick by 3PM. This is simple, easy and obvious. I'd dump my iPhone 5 for a new one in two seconds if it had nothing more than a larger battery. It would still be plenty thin, light and ergonomic. Would probably be no thicker or weigh more than the iPhone 4 did.
Rant over :-) Listen up Cook!
I am typing this on an iPhone with iOs7. Still lots of glitches and some annoying inconsistencies in the design, but I can say that, as far as battery life is concerned, you will notice the difference. Big time...
well, not the most uplifting thread discussion here.
but anyway, DED's semi-satiric post was kinda rambling and unfocused. his basic point that there is a double standard in the web world when assessing Apple/iOS stuff compared to assessing Google/Android stuff is plainly true. beyond that ... hit and miss.
the Macalope make this point much better, week after week, and is a lot funnier.
Article is again way too long... to prove a point(?)
Anyway I just wanted to say that iOS7 is ugly and is a step back usability wise. I don't want to use a phone where everything is white, white, white! It hurts to use (I've seen the developers preview)
Unusable?
Not in my opinion. Calendar is a step back in many ways, they still haven't figured out how to do it. For instance, in iOS 6 the "month" view had a dot under the dates in the month for which you had meetings, and it's gone. At least, I don't know, make it Helvetica Neue Ultralight Bold (god forbid) or add a marker according to the number of meetings or something. Admittedly, this remark comes from "the way I use the app"
Safari is very nice, clean and fast.
Messages is near perfect (i am stating opinions, of course)
Weather is a big improvement, a VERY BIG improvement. But still, once you have used the Yahoo weather app, which was more than a blueprint for it, you'll miss the extra information and the neat integration with flickr, which does so much to make it appealing. I still hope it will come on the stock weather app, because it is just GREAT.
Pictures? Nice on the iPad (probably) but crappy on the iPhone. There's just not enough screen real estate to enjoy it. The "year view" is just a pixelated mess. But the overall layout? Great!
Notes... Come on... YELLOW ON WHITE? why not just make it white on white....
Folders: VERY BIG IMPROVEMENT. But when I open an app of a folder and click the home button it brings me back to the folder view. I have to click it once again to go back to the home screen. In iOS 6 this was less o a problem as part o the home screen was always visibile. I am conflicted about it. I think habit will do it...
What I really hate is the home button behavior. Gone is the "click it once from any screen to go back to the "main home screen"". I used it a lot because all my most used apps where on the first grid. Now I just have to swipe through it. (edit: not true, works as usual)
Spotlight? Still much conflicted about the swipe down to access it. I liked the previous "home button when on home screen" way of accessing it better. Cleaner results, "dedicated app feeling", and less of a mess. That one is a "no" for me.
Animations are super cool. I know it's gimmick, but it's a nice one. Provides context, gives you a feeling of where you are and what you are doing.
I have a complaint on this though... Calculator... Plus, Minus, Equal are all orange, number are gray. Why is does the icon show a grew equal sign? Perfection demands this to be redone.
The clock icon updating is great!
But... Why doesn't apple take a clue from iPhoto or Aperture and use the same feature for the "pictures App"? Create, for privacy sake, an undistinguishable small mosaic of your actual pictures. Gone to the sea? Your icon will be mainly blue. Back from a Desert safari? How bout a yellower one? I think it would be better than the pseudo Pantone exposition we have now.
Contacts icon? Good. But, instead of the grey silouhette, for those who chose so, why not add your profile pic?
The ones I mentioned are, on purpose, adjustments that don't require any constant connection (as for instance an update to the maps app based on current location would) don't require any sensor to be active any time you open the phone.
But they would make every homescreen uniform and yet unique....
Don't forget that to a large extent, apps are a paradigm shift from how we use the Internet. And Apple is definitely dominant in that regard.
Apple is "losing" market share worldwide, not because they're losing customers but because the market is rapidly expanding. And the majority of expansion is in poorer markets with low-end feature "smart" phones. Which isn't a market Apple is currently focusing in.
That's the thing. Whilst the USA is moving away to apps much of the world is only now embracing the web via high tech low cost large smartphones.
I'm not sure if a low cost non web centred Apple phone can turn a tide which means that in many countries large cheap phones are now a prime device for web browsing.
The biggest reason I hear by far is the screen size. They simply like a bigger display because it makes everything easier to read and view. Some simply like the better integration of Google services. Others still like the customization and flexibility especially installing custom ROM's which allows endless possibilities. But one thing I can tell you is that I have never met a person outside this forum who has a love or hate relationship with Apple or Google or Samsung or any other company. They view these phones as tools with no more attachment than you would have for your TV or lawn mower. I really am mystified by the level of passion that these topics elicit amongst some posters over smart phones. Buy what works best for you and stop trying to convince other people they are wrong or are idiots because they made a different choice. That is why these articles seem so silly to me because the try and paint these companies as evil when they are simply trying to make money and good products. Now you might think their products suck but this really is not a battle of good vs. evil and to 99% of the public that don't ever visit tech forums they would find this thinking and passion over phones humorous.
- screen size is not Android feature. Apple iOS is much more about apps than few services, that's why Apple is much more conservative in screen size changes, because they want to connect as much developers with as much users as possible. Android manufactures approach to this issue is self centered
installing ROM's can be something what is a potential risk IMHO
Generally, I agree people should hit a break in spitting to other'S OS, however, if you go to any other tech forum, you will see Fandroids producing 100x more shit about iOS than opposite. It's like epidemical premature ejaculation.
That's the thing. Whilst the USA is moving away to apps much of the world is only now embracing the web via high tech low cost large smartphones.
I'm not sure if a low cost non web centred Apple phone can turn a tide which means that in many countries large cheap phones are now a prime device for web browsing.
It seems slightly ironic that the US is consuming media increasingly via apps when the iPhone was originally billed as a platform for HTML5 web apps (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Vq993Td6ys)
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Originally Posted by asdasd
Apple Licensing.
Apple didn’t licence in the “early 1990’s”, if it had it might have increased market share, it licenced in the late 1990’s after the plunge.
Lots of errors in your so called facts and corrections. The first clones showed up in early 1995 so planning had to have started in 1994. I remember a presentation in mid 1994 showing a prototype Mac Clone so the date is really early to late 1990's so your "late 1990's is actually the date the program was aborted.
You could continue on your so called "facts" pointing out the fact you really do not understand or remember the chain of events very well.
Quote:
Originally Posted by poksi
It's not about physical differences, it's all about different concept. it took me quite a long to realize what Apple actually wanted to achieve: zero admin computer. What is BS on the "normal" computer and unachievable goal, was skillfully achieved on new device on new form factor? Why so late? Why on mobile device? Because mobile device is all about resources, easy of use and efficiency. That's why touch screen and zero maintenance approach with everything being available on the tip of your finger including auto installation apps and complete ecosystem.
These devices need to be ultra efficient for people to use it on the way, where they don't sit comfortably and have enormous amount of time to resolve usual "desktop computer" problems.
I can accept that Apple wants to make tablets require zero admin. But what concepts which are acceptable on already highly efficient, portable computers, like the MBA, would cause headaches on a smaller touchscreen device? Let me bring up again the example of downloading files to a common storage area. The difference between that and opening a file immediately in another app is essentially the difference between opening a file now or saving it for later. Does the latter procedure inherently require more admin on a touch-screen device than on a device with a trackpad and keyboard?
The battle isn't even the same. I just hope Apple will also win out in the end.
I think we just heard from the Samsung representative. Maybe he didn't get this months check? Perhaps Samsung is having trouble making their normal payments?
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Originally Posted by dasanman69
1. As long as your hole is open so will mine.
OMG. I can never unhear that.
Quote:
Originally Posted by 512ke
Hey AI. Quit putting alarmist titles on your articles, like Apple might not survive 2013.
If Apple dies, your website is also dead. Think about it.
Oh...AppleInsider has been posting Samsung and Google news nonstop. They'll survive the death of Apple.
Quote:
Originally Posted by BwhAgain
You know what is different this time? Steve Jobs is no more.
I thought you people claimed Steve Jobs simply took credit for the work of other people and was a bully who made Woz and Jony Ive cry.
Quote:
Originally Posted by ninuola
I still fear for Apple.
You should. The copyists would be lost without Apple.
Good point, a move to IGZO could results in a UI look that will be hard to replicate even with the new low power super LCD and amoled.
Samsung forgot to send a check to you this month? I wonder if they will survive 2013?
I'll never unread the poor grammar of it.
It's like that book, "I'm an American and so can you" or something.
Quote:
Originally Posted by dasanman69
Let's see what great apps Android users are missing out on
Top Paid Apps
1. WhatsApp Msgr
2. Minecraft
3. Where's My Mickey?
4. Heads Up!
5. SponggeBob Moves In
6. Contra:Evolution
7. Icebreaker: A Viking Voyage
8. Facetune
9. AfterLight
10. Kick the Buddy: No Mercy
Top Free Apps
1. Despicable Me: Minions Rush
2. Sprinkle: Water splashing game
3. Candy Crush Saga
4. Nick
5.Google Maps (who would've thunk?)
6. Escape If You Can
7. Secret Passages: Hidden Objects
8. Battery Saver (wait, what? really?)
9. Vine
10. Can You Escape
Top Grossing Apps
1. Candy Crush Saga
2. Clash of Clans
3. Pandora
4. Modern War
5. MARVEL War of Heroes
6. The Simpsons: Tapped Out
7. Hay Day
8. Kingdoms Of Camelot
9. Minecraft
10. DoubleDown Casino
Looks like the vast majority of people use their iPhones as a glorified hand held gaming device. It really doesn't look like Androiders are missing much.
Unless Androids like games too. In which case they are missing out. Icebreaker 2 rocks.
Quote:
Originally Posted by 65C816
I like the idea that the bright light/white display is to take advantage of Apple's display while making sure the OLED will kill its batteries trying the same.
Before the show, I predicted that J. Ive would go for light / white just for that reason.
However, someone else then pointed out that Google Now uses bright colors on a white background, so apparently they're not that worried about extra power usage.
It completely forgets Apple's problem is the web and the fact that while Google makes up a major part of the web Apple has fat too low a presence here.
I'd suggest Google needed Android for the web so Android works because it is such a major part of the web.
IOS now has a major world problem, that being that world sales are emulating the history of Blackberry and Symbian. Apple's low web presence might in fact make it it a long slow process to recovery.
Low web presence? I personally still use Gmail, but for everything else that I would ever use, there's an Apple alternative, or a third-party app. Unless you're talking search. But that's device agnostic.
Don't forget that to a large extent, apps are a paradigm shift from how we use the Internet. And Apple is definitely dominant in that regard.
Apple is "losing" market share worldwide, not because they're losing customers but because the market is rapidly expanding. And the majority of expansion is in poorer markets with low-end feature "smart" phones. Which isn't a market Apple is currently focusing in.
I am typing this on an iPhone with iOs7. Still lots of glitches and some annoying inconsistencies in the design, but I can say that, as far as battery life is concerned, you will notice the difference. Big time...
well, not the most uplifting thread discussion here.
but anyway, DED's semi-satiric post was kinda rambling and unfocused. his basic point that there is a double standard in the web world when assessing Apple/iOS stuff compared to assessing Google/Android stuff is plainly true. beyond that ... hit and miss.
the Macalope make this point much better, week after week, and is a lot funnier.
Looking at many replies I can only assume that very few people made it passed the heading.
Headline is a question...
"Can Apple survive 2013?"
I will say YES!
and yes I did read the editorial but got bored and stopped.
Quote:
Originally Posted by dacloo
Article is again way too long... to prove a point(?)
Anyway I just wanted to say that iOS7 is ugly and is a step back usability wise. I don't want to use a phone where everything is white, white, white! It hurts to use (I've seen the developers preview)
Unusable?
Not in my opinion. Calendar is a step back in many ways, they still haven't figured out how to do it. For instance, in iOS 6 the "month" view had a dot under the dates in the month for which you had meetings, and it's gone. At least, I don't know, make it Helvetica Neue Ultralight Bold (god forbid) or add a marker according to the number of meetings or something. Admittedly, this remark comes from "the way I use the app"
Safari is very nice, clean and fast.
Messages is near perfect (i am stating opinions, of course)
Weather is a big improvement, a VERY BIG improvement. But still, once you have used the Yahoo weather app, which was more than a blueprint for it, you'll miss the extra information and the neat integration with flickr, which does so much to make it appealing. I still hope it will come on the stock weather app, because it is just GREAT.
Pictures? Nice on the iPad (probably) but crappy on the iPhone. There's just not enough screen real estate to enjoy it. The "year view" is just a pixelated mess. But the overall layout? Great!
Notes... Come on... YELLOW ON WHITE? why not just make it white on white....
Folders: VERY BIG IMPROVEMENT. But when I open an app of a folder and click the home button it brings me back to the folder view. I have to click it once again to go back to the home screen. In iOS 6 this was less o a problem as part o the home screen was always visibile. I am conflicted about it. I think habit will do it...
What I really hate is the home button behavior. Gone is the "click it once from any screen to go back to the "main home screen"". I used it a lot because all my most used apps where on the first grid. Now I just have to swipe through it. (edit: not true, works as usual)
Spotlight? Still much conflicted about the swipe down to access it. I liked the previous "home button when on home screen" way of accessing it better. Cleaner results, "dedicated app feeling", and less of a mess. That one is a "no" for me.
Animations are super cool. I know it's gimmick, but it's a nice one. Provides context, gives you a feeling of where you are and what you are doing.
I have a complaint on this though... Calculator... Plus, Minus, Equal are all orange, number are gray. Why is does the icon show a grew equal sign? Perfection demands this to be redone.
The clock icon updating is great!
But... Why doesn't apple take a clue from iPhoto or Aperture and use the same feature for the "pictures App"? Create, for privacy sake, an undistinguishable small mosaic of your actual pictures. Gone to the sea? Your icon will be mainly blue. Back from a Desert safari? How bout a yellower one? I think it would be better than the pseudo Pantone exposition we have now.
Contacts icon? Good. But, instead of the grey silouhette, for those who chose so, why not add your profile pic?
The ones I mentioned are, on purpose, adjustments that don't require any constant connection (as for instance an update to the maps app based on current location would) don't require any sensor to be active any time you open the phone.
But they would make every homescreen uniform and yet unique....
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Originally Posted by Pendergast
Don't forget that to a large extent, apps are a paradigm shift from how we use the Internet. And Apple is definitely dominant in that regard.
Apple is "losing" market share worldwide, not because they're losing customers but because the market is rapidly expanding. And the majority of expansion is in poorer markets with low-end feature "smart" phones. Which isn't a market Apple is currently focusing in.
That's the thing. Whilst the USA is moving away to apps much of the world is only now embracing the web via high tech low cost large smartphones.
I'm not sure if a low cost non web centred Apple phone can turn a tide which means that in many countries large cheap phones are now a prime device for web browsing.
Quote:
Originally Posted by gwmac
The biggest reason I hear by far is the screen size. They simply like a bigger display because it makes everything easier to read and view. Some simply like the better integration of Google services. Others still like the customization and flexibility especially installing custom ROM's which allows endless possibilities. But one thing I can tell you is that I have never met a person outside this forum who has a love or hate relationship with Apple or Google or Samsung or any other company. They view these phones as tools with no more attachment than you would have for your TV or lawn mower. I really am mystified by the level of passion that these topics elicit amongst some posters over smart phones. Buy what works best for you and stop trying to convince other people they are wrong or are idiots because they made a different choice. That is why these articles seem so silly to me because the try and paint these companies as evil when they are simply trying to make money and good products. Now you might think their products suck but this really is not a battle of good vs. evil and to 99% of the public that don't ever visit tech forums they would find this thinking and passion over phones humorous.
- screen size is not Android feature. Apple iOS is much more about apps than few services, that's why Apple is much more conservative in screen size changes, because they want to connect as much developers with as much users as possible. Android manufactures approach to this issue is self centered
installing ROM's can be something what is a potential risk IMHO
Generally, I agree people should hit a break in spitting to other'S OS, however, if you go to any other tech forum, you will see Fandroids producing 100x more shit about iOS than opposite. It's like epidemical premature ejaculation.
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Originally Posted by aBeliefSystem
That's the thing. Whilst the USA is moving away to apps much of the world is only now embracing the web via high tech low cost large smartphones.
I'm not sure if a low cost non web centred Apple phone can turn a tide which means that in many countries large cheap phones are now a prime device for web browsing.
It seems slightly ironic that the US is consuming media increasingly via apps when the iPhone was originally billed as a platform for HTML5 web apps (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Vq993Td6ys)