[...] I could next write about the prospects of other Android licensees to more effectively take over and destroy Apple, but that would strain credulity.
No, it would strain credibility. It cannot affect credulity as that is not within the writer's control.
... Competition is a good thing no matter how you look at it (unless you are a monopoly). ...
No it's not. Competition itself is entirely neutral about the outcome it produces. It may be good, but it may just as likely be bad. It may just as easily (perhaps more so) lead to a race to the bottom as a race to the top. There is no law of nature, physical or human, that guarantees that the results of competition will be "good".
If the filesystem is properly implemented, any file can only be accessed by an app which has permission to read that file. A downloads folder need not be world-readable and world-writable. There are already many third-party filesystem apps which implement a sandboxed general storage area, but the user has to manually sync the files with other apps. If Apple were to bake a files app into iOS and provide APIs for other apps to sync with it, that might kill some of the more awkward workflows (such as attaching files to an email reply) without necessarily introducing security holes.
Apple may eventually do something similar. For instance, you first-party apps can already share data; for instance, the Mail app can insert photos from the Photos app.
What Apple could do is create an API that allows third-party apps to "tag" specific types of data (photos, videos, documents, etc) that other Apps can access. It would essentially be a reverse of the "Open In" API.
This would be more of a sharing concept than a central file system, and would still be app-centric with no maintenance.
For instance, when inserting a photo into a Pages document, it would show a list of your albums, along with a list of other apps that have photos (such as Camera+), which would list like an album.
Considering the point of the article was that Apple is NOT doomed, did you actually read it?
I read it and already knew Apple wasn't doomed. It was a very stupid title though and something like "Why Apple isn't doomed in 2013 or beyond" for example would have been a better choice. But you know who else isn't doomed? Google and Samsung. They will keep on trucking on just fine. No one is doomed with the exception of the also rans like Sony (smart phone division not whole company), Blackberry, LG (again smart phone division only), HTC, Nokia, and others. I expect the Chinese to fill in the gap for the sub $350 phones and squeeze pretty much everyone out of that space including Samsung. If Apple decides to make a phone and sell it off contract for around $449 and another with one with a large screen then Samsung would be in deep doo doo since the Chinese would squeeze them at the bottom under $350 market and Apple would squeeze them like an anaconda in the middle and upper end. I can imagine a lot of S4 owners trading them in if Apple had a phone with a display around 4.8"
But then Steve was also wrong about not wanting to make iPods and iTunes compatible with Windows.
I have never seen any indication of quote ever that Steve Jobs did not want iTunes and the iPod available on Windows. In Fact, he always wanted a cross platform tool chain but public release was killed.
This thread has been an interesting read, much popcorn was consumed. I love how the Android Paladins must ride in to defend their church, and make right every (perceived) wrong. I wonder why they care so much what Apple fanbois, deeply immersed in the kool-aid and irradiated by the RDF, say about it?
As for the article itself, it's a shame that it goes over the top and is clumsy in expressing some analogies/similies, however it makes some good points. A good editor would do wonders for DED's articles.
Good tongue in cheek article. Previous explanation for those that didn't see the humor!
"Android" phones are everywhere, but most of them have never seen an OS update, and NEVER will!
Not necessarily bad thing. Being and iPhone 3Gs user - while it sits good in marketing material that my phone can (and do) run iOS 6.x, in reality most new features are disabled on 3Gs, and I did lose some swiftness and, arguably, my battery does last a bit shorter (though this could be just a natural battery ageing).
If I could, I would revert back to iOS5 or even 4 - I recall that was silky smooth in every common scenario, while iOS6 can and will occasionally stutter even on basic tasks that were working fine before - like showing keyboard to reply to txt message or email, for example. It does not happen too often, but happen it does.
I'd revert back to older iOS if that could be easily done, but as it is, it is not worth the effort. It is not that my phone is unusable as it is, it is just that it did work, subjectively, a bit better before. Maybe Apple should have released additional tune-up to iOS 5.x (or even stick with 4.x?) for 3Gs rather than putting an effort to make iOS 6 work of it.
Not necessarily bad thing. Being and iPhone 3Gs user - while it sits good in marketing material that my phone can (and do) run iOS 6.x, in reality most new features are disabled on 3Gs, and I did lose some swiftness and, arguably, my battery does last a bit shorter (though this could be just a natural battery ageing).
If I could, I would revert back to iOS5 or even 4 - I recall that was silky smooth in every common scenario, while iOS6 can and will occasionally stutter even on basic tasks that were working fine before - like showing keyboard to reply to txt message or email, for example. It does not happen too often, but happen it does.
I'd revert back to older iOS if that could be easily done, but as it is, it is not worth the effort. It is not that my phone is unusable as it is, it is just that it did work, subjectively, a bit better before. Maybe Apple should have released additional tune-up to iOS 5.x (or even stick with 4.x?) for 3Gs rather than putting an effort to make iOS 6 work of it.
It could be that your phone is just old, computers slow down over time. The flash memory, for instance, eventually slows.
You might also try restoring your phone and setting it up as a new phone.
I read it and already knew Apple wasn't doomed. It was a very stupid title though and something like "Why Apple isn't doomed in 2013 or beyond" for example would have been a better choice. But you know who else isn't doomed? Google and Samsung. They will keep on trucking on just fine. No one is doomed with the exception of the also rans like Sony (smart phone division not whole company), Blackberry, LG (again smart phone division only), HTC, Nokia, and others. I expect the Chinese to fill in the gap for the sub $350 phones and squeeze pretty much everyone out of that space including Samsung. If Apple decides to make a phone and sell it off contract for around $449 and another with one with a large screen then Samsung would be in deep doo doo since the Chinese would squeeze them at the bottom under $350 market and Apple would squeeze them like an anaconda in the middle and upper end. I can imagine a lot of S4 owners trading them in if Apple had a phone with a display around 4.8"
You are contradicting yourself... the way you've put it, basically everyone else but Apple and Samsung is de facto doomed.
However, Sony seems to be growing well in Europe (third after Samsung and Apple) and home turf, Japan. Their new models are quite decent, much more desirable for me than Samsung, to be honest.
I also think Nokia will bounce back just fine. Not to previous heights, but to stability for sure. This based on their growth since shift to Windows Phone, which is actually faster than iPhone growth in the same time frame, and in much more competitive environment. Yes their numbers are still hardly significant, but momentum seems to be there.
What Apple could do is create an API that allows third-party apps to "tag" specific types of data (photos, videos, documents, etc) that other Apps can access. It would essentially be a reverse of the "Open In" API.
Like most of the features that Apple supposedly lacks, such an API is available in iOS.
"Uniform Type Identifiers (or UTIs) are strings which uniquely identify abstract types. They can be used to describe a file format or an in-memory data type, but can also be used to describe the type of other sorts of entities, such as directories, volumes, or packages." UTIs were introduced in iOS 3.
Likewise, developers may choose to implement their own keyboard layout making said layout a universal option. That developers have not chosen to do so speaks less of iOS than of users who do not confuse variety with choice.
Furthermore, file management is available on iOS. Indeed, there are dozens, if not hundreds, of file managers that allow a user to download and install a variety of objects on their iPhone. In my opinion, Tagging is the future of file management. Tagging has quickly become my favorite feature of OS X 10.9 Mavericks.
I fail to understand how any rational, reasonable person could conclude that the iPhone isn't years ahead of the competition considering the dozens of features implemented in iOS that Android simply does not offer.
It could be that your phone is just old, computers slow down over time. The flash memory, for instance, eventually slows.
You might also try restoring your phone and setting it up as a new phone.
I did factory default my phone at some point, but I still get occasional stutter/delay. It does not happen every time, so my phone is not slower in general... but every now and then, when you tap on txt windows to type message, nothing happens for a second or longer before keyboard shows on screen.
My lucky guess is that iOS 6 simple has bigger footprint than older iOSes, thus leaving less available RAM on old 3Gs to run apps, thus bottlenecking easier than older iOS would. In addition, iOS6 is more complex than iOS3 my phone came with, so extra processing muscle wouldn't hurt either.
There is really nothing wrong with this. I remember my wife's Toshiba Satellite 1000 delivered with 128MB of RAM back in 2001, later upgraded to 512MB. Served her well (enough) with XP. Just for fun, we tried to install Windows 7 on it, and, well... it worked. But not even remotely as smooth as my 3Gs works with iOS6
So there's that. I'm not complaining re iOS updates, I'm just saying that, while they sound great on paper, they don't necessarily bring real benefits to older devices. Thus if I were Android user, I would not be too unhappy with lack of OS updates - especially if I'm using low cost handset that already runs on the edge of it's potential with whatever OS came with it.
I fail to understand how any rational, reasonable person could conclude that the iPhone isn't years ahead of the competition considering the dozens of features implemented in iOS that Android simply does not offer.
@Macbook Pro's statement you are referring to is a bit too strong, of course, but his explanation of how functional can sandboxed environment be is accurate and it counters incredibly stupid comments of Fandroids how great and open Android is and how closed iOS is.
I can name you one feature that will never ever be implemented on Android even near to how on iOS is, though: security. It takes time, skills and whole lot of services to build functional and useful sandboxed OS. It will never happen on Android, Android is going Windows way.
Lots of errors in your so called facts and corrections. The first clones showed up in early 1995 so planning had to have started in 1994. I remember a presentation in mid 1994 showing a prototype Mac Clone so the date is really early to late 1990's so your "late 1990's is actually the date the program was aborted.
You could continue on your so called "facts" pointing out the fact you really do not understand or remember the chain of events very well.
Th plan date is not the release date. The release date was 1995 which is mid 1990's. What it is not is early 1990's. The licensing program really got going in 1995-1997 and was abandoned only when Steve Jobs came back.
In no sense then, would a program which started in a limited fashion in 1995 and lasted until 1999 or so ( although most clones were curtailed in 1997/98) be called early 1990's. Early 1990's is wrong. I should probably have said, mid-to-late 1990's but guess what: I am commenting below the line not above it.
The stats above the line need to be fact checked more rigorously than those below it. So go take that forensic abilities of yours and apply it to DED's original comments.
Like most of the features that Apple supposedly lacks, such an API is available in iOS.
"Uniform Type Identifiers (or UTIs) are strings which uniquely identify abstract types. They can be used to describe a file format or an in-memory data type, but can also be used to describe the type of other sorts of entities, such as directories, volumes, or packages." UTIs were introduced in iOS 3.
Likewise, developers may choose to implement their own keyboard layout making said layout a universal option. That developers have not chosen to do so speaks less of iOS than of users who do not confuse variety with choice.
Furthermore, file management is available on iOS. Indeed, there are dozens, if not hundreds, of file managers that allow a user to download and install a variety of objects on their iPhone. In my opinion, Tagging is the future of file management. Tagging has quickly become my favorite feature of OS X 10.9 Mavericks.
I fail to understand how any rational, reasonable person could conclude that the iPhone isn't years ahead of the competition considering the dozens of features implemented in iOS that Android simply does not offer.
I can't see tagging ever getting to iOS 7, though i would like it.
Interesting how small improvements make such differences. Tags are basically labels, and have been around for years. In Mavericks they have a decent UI - you can change the label/tag on save - and suddenly they are brilliant. ( no sarcasm, they are).
@Macbook Pro's statement you are referring to is a bit too strong, of course, but his explanation of how functional can sandboxed environment be is accurate and it counters incredibly stupid comments of Fandroids how great and open Android is and how closed iOS is.
I can name you one feature that will never ever be implemented on Android even near to how on iOS is, though: security. It takes time, skills and whole lot of services to build functional and useful sandboxed OS. It will never happen on Android, Android is going Windows way.
Okay fair enough, I've never had a problem with security or malware but I'm sure users who don't know what their installing have. I put a lot of blame on Google for this, their should be a much larger scrutiny when allowing apps into Google Play. I no longer buy Android or iOS phones for personal use as I like supporting platforms with low market penetration. I have recently put in a preorder for a Jolla phone and I will also probably buy a Nokia Lumia EOS with the 40 MP camera when it's finally released. Work phone wise, well I really didn't have a choice there, as they are issued to me by my firm. This time around they gave me a BB Z10, no complaints though as it does everything I need a phone to do and I really dig the interface. It also has a great file-manager app that can access my work servers via VPN, which is probably the only criteria I have in a work phone.
As you might have guessed I love owning phones that are very unique, if I see to many of the same phone on the street chances are I will never buy one, MeegOS was one of my favorite mobile OS's of all time so the new Jolla phone is probably a good match for me.
Back when they were called Dopod's iMates, O2's or any of the other brands HTC was acting as an OEM for?
Provide a link, as your roes coloured glasses seem to be tainted with crap.
Any particular reason you couldn't ask politely for a citation, or offer a counterargument without going "angry guy"? There's a handful of members who seem to always be looking for a fight instead of a discussion. We can change the tone here if enough of us choose to make an effort at it.
Any particular reason you couldn't ask politely for a citation, or offer a counterargument without going "angry guy"? There's a handful of members who seem to always be looking for a fight instead of a discussion. We can change the tone here if enough of us choose to make an effort at it.
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Originally Posted by AppleInsider
[...] I could next write about the prospects of other Android licensees to more effectively take over and destroy Apple, but that would strain credulity.
No, it would strain credibility. It cannot affect credulity as that is not within the writer's control.
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Originally Posted by GrangerFX
... Competition is a good thing no matter how you look at it (unless you are a monopoly). ...
No it's not. Competition itself is entirely neutral about the outcome it produces. It may be good, but it may just as likely be bad. It may just as easily (perhaps more so) lead to a race to the bottom as a race to the top. There is no law of nature, physical or human, that guarantees that the results of competition will be "good".
Apple may eventually do something similar. For instance, you first-party apps can already share data; for instance, the Mail app can insert photos from the Photos app.
What Apple could do is create an API that allows third-party apps to "tag" specific types of data (photos, videos, documents, etc) that other Apps can access. It would essentially be a reverse of the "Open In" API.
This would be more of a sharing concept than a central file system, and would still be app-centric with no maintenance.
For instance, when inserting a photo into a Pages document, it would show a list of your albums, along with a list of other apps that have photos (such as Camera+), which would list like an album.
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Originally Posted by Pendergast
Considering the point of the article was that Apple is NOT doomed, did you actually read it?
I read it and already knew Apple wasn't doomed. It was a very stupid title though and something like "Why Apple isn't doomed in 2013 or beyond" for example would have been a better choice. But you know who else isn't doomed? Google and Samsung. They will keep on trucking on just fine. No one is doomed with the exception of the also rans like Sony (smart phone division not whole company), Blackberry, LG (again smart phone division only), HTC, Nokia, and others. I expect the Chinese to fill in the gap for the sub $350 phones and squeeze pretty much everyone out of that space including Samsung. If Apple decides to make a phone and sell it off contract for around $449 and another with one with a large screen then Samsung would be in deep doo doo since the Chinese would squeeze them at the bottom under $350 market and Apple would squeeze them like an anaconda in the middle and upper end. I can imagine a lot of S4 owners trading them in if Apple had a phone with a display around 4.8"
I have never seen any indication of quote ever that Steve Jobs did not want iTunes and the iPod available on Windows. In Fact, he always wanted a cross platform tool chain but public release was killed.
This thread has been an interesting read, much popcorn was consumed. I love how the Android Paladins must ride in to defend their church, and make right every (perceived) wrong. I wonder why they care so much what Apple fanbois, deeply immersed in the kool-aid and irradiated by the RDF, say about it?
As for the article itself, it's a shame that it goes over the top and is clumsy in expressing some analogies/similies, however it makes some good points. A good editor would do wonders for DED's articles.
Not necessarily bad thing. Being and iPhone 3Gs user - while it sits good in marketing material that my phone can (and do) run iOS 6.x, in reality most new features are disabled on 3Gs, and I did lose some swiftness and, arguably, my battery does last a bit shorter (though this could be just a natural battery ageing).
If I could, I would revert back to iOS5 or even 4 - I recall that was silky smooth in every common scenario, while iOS6 can and will occasionally stutter even on basic tasks that were working fine before - like showing keyboard to reply to txt message or email, for example. It does not happen too often, but happen it does.
I'd revert back to older iOS if that could be easily done, but as it is, it is not worth the effort. It is not that my phone is unusable as it is, it is just that it did work, subjectively, a bit better before. Maybe Apple should have released additional tune-up to iOS 5.x (or even stick with 4.x?) for 3Gs rather than putting an effort to make iOS 6 work of it.
It could be that your phone is just old, computers slow down over time. The flash memory, for instance, eventually slows.
You might also try restoring your phone and setting it up as a new phone.
You are contradicting yourself... the way you've put it, basically everyone else but Apple and Samsung is de facto doomed.
However, Sony seems to be growing well in Europe (third after Samsung and Apple) and home turf, Japan. Their new models are quite decent, much more desirable for me than Samsung, to be honest.
I also think Nokia will bounce back just fine. Not to previous heights, but to stability for sure. This based on their growth since shift to Windows Phone, which is actually faster than iPhone growth in the same time frame, and in much more competitive environment. Yes their numbers are still hardly significant, but momentum seems to be there.
Like most of the features that Apple supposedly lacks, such an API is available in iOS.
"Uniform Type Identifiers (or UTIs) are strings which uniquely identify abstract types. They can be used to describe a file format or an in-memory data type, but can also be used to describe the type of other sorts of entities, such as directories, volumes, or packages." UTIs were introduced in iOS 3.
Likewise, developers may choose to implement their own keyboard layout making said layout a universal option. That developers have not chosen to do so speaks less of iOS than of users who do not confuse variety with choice.
Furthermore, file management is available on iOS. Indeed, there are dozens, if not hundreds, of file managers that allow a user to download and install a variety of objects on their iPhone. In my opinion, Tagging is the future of file management. Tagging has quickly become my favorite feature of OS X 10.9 Mavericks.
I fail to understand how any rational, reasonable person could conclude that the iPhone isn't years ahead of the competition considering the dozens of features implemented in iOS that Android simply does not offer.
I did factory default my phone at some point, but I still get occasional stutter/delay. It does not happen every time, so my phone is not slower in general... but every now and then, when you tap on txt windows to type message, nothing happens for a second or longer before keyboard shows on screen.
My lucky guess is that iOS 6 simple has bigger footprint than older iOSes, thus leaving less available RAM on old 3Gs to run apps, thus bottlenecking easier than older iOS would. In addition, iOS6 is more complex than iOS3 my phone came with, so extra processing muscle wouldn't hurt either.
There is really nothing wrong with this. I remember my wife's Toshiba Satellite 1000 delivered with 128MB of RAM back in 2001, later upgraded to 512MB. Served her well (enough) with XP. Just for fun, we tried to install Windows 7 on it, and, well... it worked. But not even remotely as smooth as my 3Gs works with iOS6
So there's that. I'm not complaining re iOS updates, I'm just saying that, while they sound great on paper, they don't necessarily bring real benefits to older devices. Thus if I were Android user, I would not be too unhappy with lack of OS updates - especially if I'm using low cost handset that already runs on the edge of it's potential with whatever OS came with it.
Can you give us a few examples of these features.
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Originally Posted by Relic
Can you give us a few examples of these features.
@Macbook Pro's statement you are referring to is a bit too strong, of course, but his explanation of how functional can sandboxed environment be is accurate and it counters incredibly stupid comments of Fandroids how great and open Android is and how closed iOS is.
I can name you one feature that will never ever be implemented on Android even near to how on iOS is, though: security. It takes time, skills and whole lot of services to build functional and useful sandboxed OS. It will never happen on Android, Android is going Windows way.
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Originally Posted by Steven N.
Lots of errors in your so called facts and corrections. The first clones showed up in early 1995 so planning had to have started in 1994. I remember a presentation in mid 1994 showing a prototype Mac Clone so the date is really early to late 1990's so your "late 1990's is actually the date the program was aborted.
You could continue on your so called "facts" pointing out the fact you really do not understand or remember the chain of events very well.
Th plan date is not the release date. The release date was 1995 which is mid 1990's. What it is not is early 1990's. The licensing program really got going in 1995-1997 and was abandoned only when Steve Jobs came back.
In no sense then, would a program which started in a limited fashion in 1995 and lasted until 1999 or so ( although most clones were curtailed in 1997/98) be called early 1990's. Early 1990's is wrong. I should probably have said, mid-to-late 1990's but guess what: I am commenting below the line not above it.
The stats above the line need to be fact checked more rigorously than those below it. So go take that forensic abilities of yours and apply it to DED's original comments.
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Originally Posted by MacBook Pro
Like most of the features that Apple supposedly lacks, such an API is available in iOS.
"Uniform Type Identifiers (or UTIs) are strings which uniquely identify abstract types. They can be used to describe a file format or an in-memory data type, but can also be used to describe the type of other sorts of entities, such as directories, volumes, or packages." UTIs were introduced in iOS 3.
Likewise, developers may choose to implement their own keyboard layout making said layout a universal option. That developers have not chosen to do so speaks less of iOS than of users who do not confuse variety with choice.
Furthermore, file management is available on iOS. Indeed, there are dozens, if not hundreds, of file managers that allow a user to download and install a variety of objects on their iPhone. In my opinion, Tagging is the future of file management. Tagging has quickly become my favorite feature of OS X 10.9 Mavericks.
I fail to understand how any rational, reasonable person could conclude that the iPhone isn't years ahead of the competition considering the dozens of features implemented in iOS that Android simply does not offer.
I can't see tagging ever getting to iOS 7, though i would like it.
Interesting how small improvements make such differences. Tags are basically labels, and have been around for years. In Mavericks they have a decent UI - you can change the label/tag on save - and suddenly they are brilliant. ( no sarcasm, they are).
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Originally Posted by KDarling
Nope. Translucency is one of the easiest graphics transformations and does not require much power.
(We were doing it years ago on lowly 200 MHz Windows Mobile smartphones.)
Is that when HTC couldn't even get the graphics drivers to work?
Back when they were called Dopod's iMates, O2's or any of the other brands HTC was acting as an OEM for?
Provide a link, as your roes coloured glasses seem to be tainted with crap.
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Originally Posted by poksi
@Macbook Pro's statement you are referring to is a bit too strong, of course, but his explanation of how functional can sandboxed environment be is accurate and it counters incredibly stupid comments of Fandroids how great and open Android is and how closed iOS is.
I can name you one feature that will never ever be implemented on Android even near to how on iOS is, though: security. It takes time, skills and whole lot of services to build functional and useful sandboxed OS. It will never happen on Android, Android is going Windows way.
Okay fair enough, I've never had a problem with security or malware but I'm sure users who don't know what their installing have. I put a lot of blame on Google for this, their should be a much larger scrutiny when allowing apps into Google Play. I no longer buy Android or iOS phones for personal use as I like supporting platforms with low market penetration. I have recently put in a preorder for a Jolla phone and I will also probably buy a Nokia Lumia EOS with the 40 MP camera when it's finally released. Work phone wise, well I really didn't have a choice there, as they are issued to me by my firm. This time around they gave me a BB Z10, no complaints though as it does everything I need a phone to do and I really dig the interface. It also has a great file-manager app that can access my work servers via VPN, which is probably the only criteria I have in a work phone.
As you might have guessed I love owning phones that are very unique, if I see to many of the same phone on the street chances are I will never buy one, MeegOS was one of my favorite mobile OS's of all time so the new Jolla phone is probably a good match for me.
Any particular reason you couldn't ask politely for a citation, or offer a counterargument without going "angry guy"? There's a handful of members who seem to always be looking for a fight instead of a discussion. We can change the tone here if enough of us choose to make an effort at it.
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Originally Posted by gkelly
This article does not hold up to the level of quality and professionalism I have come to expect from Apple Insider. Very silly and crude.
It's a Dilger "article." This is what you should expect from him (i.e., neither quality nor professionalism).
Noooo, go to hell!