[quote name="Crowley" url="/t/158372/pressure-mounts-on-japans-largest-carrier-as-it-still-refuses-to-carry-apples-iphone#post_2357610"]I entirely agree that I don't want any bloat ware on my iPhone. So much so that not being able to delete the Apple apps that I consider bloatware (Stocks, Weather, Calendar, Compass, Voice Memos, Clock, Videos, News Stand, Games Center, Mail, Safari) bugs me.[/QUOTE]
So go buy a T9 flip phone and stop whining about things you clearly don't get.
[quote name="Crowley" url="/t/158372/pressure-mounts-on-japans-largest-carrier-as-it-still-refuses-to-carry-apples-iphone#post_2357623"]I don't claim to be in the majority.[/QUOTE]
Exactly. The majority wants the iPhone just as it is.
I don't know how you can come to that conclusion. That's like saying the majority of TV users use it it play games and not watch TV since console gaming is a multi billion dollar industry.
Games not other productivity apps dominate in every top app category; free, paid, and top grossing. So it's not a guess as to what the 'vast majority' of people are doing with their iPhones.
In France, each carrier and internet access provider has exclusive apps available on the App Store which work only when you are one of their customers (either by entering your credentials to access, say, TV channels, or working only on an iphone locked to them or using their network).
I don't see what keep NTT DoCoMo to do the same and provides its customers with its own exclusive apps, through Apple's AppStore, and keep its "lifestyle" as it is now.
Unless it is a matter of stickers reading "NTT DoCoMo" to be put on the iPhone%u2026
In France, each carrier and internet access provider has exclusive apps available on the App Store which work only when you are one of their customers (either by entering your credentials to access, say, TV channels, or working only on an iphone locked to them or using their network).
I don't see what keep NTT DoCoMo to do the same and provides its customers with its own exclusive apps, through Apple's AppStore, and keep its "lifestyle" as it is now.
Unless it is a matter of stickers reading "NTT DoCoMo" to be put on the iPhone%u2026
They want the apps to be pre-installed and uninstallable. Sort of like what carriers to with Android phones unless you root them to remove the bloatware carrier crap. If people had to go out of their way to install them it's likely very few would use them anymore and NTT DoCoMo gets tons of revenue by people using their i-mode service.
I entirely agree that I don't want any bloat ware on my iPhone. So much so that not being able to delete the Apple apps that I consider bloatware (Stocks, Weather, Calendar, Compass, Voice Memos, Clock, Videos, News Stand, Games Center, Mail, Safari) bugs me.
I want Apple to be stubborn in keeping crap that I don't want or need off my phone. I wish they'd turn that stubbornness to be inward-facing.
If it bugs you so much, you can put it all in a folder, and move the folder to a separate page, no?
I still expect someone to call Apple "arrogant" and say "Timmy needs to learn to play nice with carriers or else Apple's stock prices will stay in the toilet" or similar nonsense.
No excuse? They are not allowed to negotiate more favorable terms?
How dare you ask that? Don't you know that ALL terms must favor Apple and that Apple is the only company capable of providing a good customer experience? /s
No excuse? They are not allowed to negotiate more favorable terms?
They can try, they'll just need to realize that Apple's going to continue to say no whilst they lose ever more customers to the other carriers.
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Originally Posted by Soloman
How dare you ask that? Don't you know that ALL terms must favor Apple and that Apple is the only company capable of providing a good customer experience? /s
0/10. Hope Samsung's PR agency doesn't pay you that much.
Non-sequitur much? How exactly did you jump to the conclusion that they have no apps based on them complaining about carriers who force uninstallable crapware on their phones? You fail to see the difference between those and apps the user chooses to install themselves?
NTT DoCoMo is/was the carrier that everyone tried (and failed) to emulate. NTT DoCoMo's i-mode service is easily the most successful carrier-exclusive service of all time.
If you've only had experience of western carriers, it's hard to understand how different NTT DoCoMo operates.
I am aware of this. However, Apple doesn't do carrier exclusive, so there is probably going to be no deal. As long as Japanese customers have a choice, they can choose a different carrier. That's Apple's bargaining chip, and the free market forces will sort this out.
Games not other productivity apps dominate in every top app category; free, paid, and top grossing. So it's not a guess as to what the 'vast majority' of people are doing with their iPhones.
Why does it matter what people use their iPhones for? So a lot of people use it to play games, big deal. A lot of people use it to make calls and browse the Internet too, again big deal.
Games not other productivity apps dominate in every top app category; free, paid, and top grossing. So it's not a guess as to what the 'vast majority' of people are doing with their iPhones.
Are you for real? Web browsing doesn't show up in App Store statistics. Neither does checking email or scheduling appointments.
I find Stocks particularly bad in that only some rich capitalist from the US really wants that ever. The vast majority of the public doesn't have any interest in the stock market and it's only really there because every Apple employee is looking at their stock options. So offensive.
One day, long after you've moved out of your parents' basement, you, too, may own stock. It may be part of your retirement plan, or it may be part of your compensation. Stock can be bought for pennies and you can open a trading account for free. I find your narrow, uninformed view to be offensive.
The Japanese adherence to tradition is their major fault, too often blinding them to reality. DoCoMo's insistence upon adding their little garden to OEM phones and then affixing their external branding is pointless relative to all the value-added advantages of instead depending upon the wealth of creative third-party apps to enrich customer experience, and adopting the award-winning iPhone as-is to elevate your business. This is a classic example of corporate self-defeat.
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So go buy a T9 flip phone and stop whining about things you clearly don't get.
[quote name="Crowley" url="/t/158372/pressure-mounts-on-japans-largest-carrier-as-it-still-refuses-to-carry-apples-iphone#post_2357623"]I don't claim to be in the majority.[/QUOTE]
Exactly. The majority wants the iPhone just as it is.
Games not other productivity apps dominate in every top app category; free, paid, and top grossing. So it's not a guess as to what the 'vast majority' of people are doing with their iPhones.
I don't see what keep NTT DoCoMo to do the same and provides its customers with its own exclusive apps, through Apple's AppStore, and keep its "lifestyle" as it is now.
Unless it is a matter of stickers reading "NTT DoCoMo" to be put on the iPhone%u2026
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Originally Posted by stephane36
In France, each carrier and internet access provider has exclusive apps available on the App Store which work only when you are one of their customers (either by entering your credentials to access, say, TV channels, or working only on an iphone locked to them or using their network).
I don't see what keep NTT DoCoMo to do the same and provides its customers with its own exclusive apps, through Apple's AppStore, and keep its "lifestyle" as it is now.
Unless it is a matter of stickers reading "NTT DoCoMo" to be put on the iPhone%u2026
They want the apps to be pre-installed and uninstallable. Sort of like what carriers to with Android phones unless you root them to remove the bloatware carrier crap. If people had to go out of their way to install them it's likely very few would use them anymore and NTT DoCoMo gets tons of revenue by people using their i-mode service.
If it bugs you so much, you can put it all in a folder, and move the folder to a separate page, no?
How dare you ask that? Don't you know that ALL terms must favor Apple and that Apple is the only company capable of providing a good customer experience? /s
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Originally Posted by stelligent
No excuse? They are not allowed to negotiate more favorable terms?
They can try, they'll just need to realize that Apple's going to continue to say no whilst they lose ever more customers to the other carriers.
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Originally Posted by Soloman
How dare you ask that? Don't you know that ALL terms must favor Apple and that Apple is the only company capable of providing a good customer experience? /s
0/10. Hope Samsung's PR agency doesn't pay you that much.
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Originally Posted by Soloman
So you don't have any apps?
Non-sequitur much? How exactly did you jump to the conclusion that they have no apps based on them complaining about carriers who force uninstallable crapware on their phones? You fail to see the difference between those and apps the user chooses to install themselves?
I am aware of this. However, Apple doesn't do carrier exclusive, so there is probably going to be no deal. As long as Japanese customers have a choice, they can choose a different carrier. That's Apple's bargaining chip, and the free market forces will sort this out.
Why does it matter what people use their iPhones for? So a lot of people use it to play games, big deal. A lot of people use it to make calls and browse the Internet too, again big deal.
Are you for real? Web browsing doesn't show up in App Store statistics. Neither does checking email or scheduling appointments.
One day, long after you've moved out of your parents' basement, you, too, may own stock. It may be part of your retirement plan, or it may be part of your compensation. Stock can be bought for pennies and you can open a trading account for free. I find your narrow, uninformed view to be offensive.
"Not allowed"? By whom? How do you go from "no excuse" to "not allowed"? Non sequitur much?
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Pressure mounts on Japan's largest carrier as it still refuses to carry Apple's iPhone
I missed the Pressure Mounts part of the article. Where is the pressure, and where is it coming from?
I think it's due to the loss of subscribers. It's inferred share holders don't like the loss of business.
Market forces.