Rumor: Poor fingerprint sensor, LCD driver yields to impact 'iPhone 5S' shipments

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in Future Apple Hardware edited January 2014
A report out of the Far East on Tuesday claims the first batch of Apple's next-generation iPhone could be smaller than expected, thanks to poor yield rates for the handset's much rumored fingerprint sensor, as well as LCD driver chips.

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The report comes from the hit-or-miss DigiTimes, which cited industry insiders as saying yield issues have caused volume production of "fingerprint-recognition" and LCD driver components for the so-called "iPhone 5S" to be pushed to the end of July. To make the scheduled September launch, manufacture of the parts should have started by the end of June or early July, the sources said.

According to the publication, the next-gen iPhone will use fingerprint sensors designed by AuthenTec, the biometric security firm Apple purchased for $356 million in 2012. The unnamed sources claim Apple contracted production of the chips to Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co. (TSMC), while Xintec will handle wafer-level packaging.

A possible TSMC and Xintec collaboration was first mentioned in April by KGI Securities analyst Ming-Chi Kuo, who has a reliable track record in predicting Apple's movements,

No information was given regarding the purported LCD driver problems, though Apple is widely expected to carry over the same 4-inch display from the current iPhone 5.

With the reported yield rate trouble, the publication said insiders estimate around three million iPhone 5S units will be delayed into the fourth quarter.
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  • Reply 1 of 66
    robmrobm Posts: 1,068member
    Speculation on top of speculation !
    Compounded by reports from unnamed sources :D
  • Reply 2 of 66
    65c81665c816 Posts: 136member
    The other speculation said IGZO screen - anyone know how much power savings that would translate to?
  • Reply 3 of 66
    I not concern with the iPhone 5S or even the 6! Purchase another state of the art phone in the mean time. Why is Samsung and HTC not having troubles like Apple has. Been a loyal Apple buyer but no longer! They seem to be loosing ground!
  • Reply 4 of 66

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    Originally Posted by 65C816 View Post



    The other speculation said IGZO screen - anyone know how much power savings that would translate to?


    I think it is 50% less power consumption with the Sharp IGZO screen.

  • Reply 5 of 66
    robmrobm Posts: 1,068member
    harry wild wrote: »
    I not concern with the iPhone 5S or even the 6! Purchase another state of the art phone in the mean time. Why is Samsung and HTC not having troubles like Apple has. Been a loyal Apple buyer but no longer! They seem to be loosing ground!

    Me too !
    I not concern with story.
    I also not concern with your post.
  • Reply 6 of 66
    phone-ui-guyphone-ui-guy Posts: 1,019member
    Every product has yield issues and I'm not just talking about Apple and rumors. You just manage the yield and work to make them better even if they are already acceptable. The last iMac was the only product really delayed by issues. Others seem to hit their launch window but may have taken longer than desired to reach a supply and demand balance.

    Only thing interesting here may be that there are some yield issues on the fingerprint sensor. That means we may finally see it in a phone. Of course you have to believe digititimes which is not something I will do. I am fine waiting and seeing.
  • Reply 7 of 66

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    Originally Posted by Harry Wild View Post



    I not concern with the iPhone 5S or even the 6! Purchase another state of the art phone in the mean time. Why is Samsung and HTC not having troubles like Apple has. Been a loyal Apple buyer but no longer! They seem to be loosing ground!


    What is the purpose of you proclaiming that you will not buy an iPhone? Who cares? You don't get enough attention at home and feel the need to say what you will and will not do? Are you lonely?

  • Reply 8 of 66
    davemcm76davemcm76 Posts: 268member
    Don't we get some unconfirmed report from some unknown source stating delays with some component or other at about this time every year?
  • Reply 9 of 66
    alex101alex101 Posts: 40member
    So, would the fingerpringt sensor be integrated into the home button?
  • Reply 10 of 66
    robmrobm Posts: 1,068member
    Unknown. But yes that's what most reports expect as logical.
  • Reply 11 of 66
    poksipoksi Posts: 482member


    When new technology is implemented, troubles are expected and accounted for. Especially by Apple. This is just pure speculation about something indefinable. 

  • Reply 12 of 66
    monstrositymonstrosity Posts: 2,234member


    Reeks of bullshit.

  • Reply 13 of 66
    poksipoksi Posts: 482member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Harry Wild View Post



    I not concern with the iPhone 5S or even the 6! Purchase another state of the art phone in the mean time. Why is Samsung and HTC not having troubles like Apple has. Been a loyal Apple buyer but no longer! They seem to be loosing ground!


     


    I not comment on your state-of-the-art plastic purchase, but let me tell you why your korean idols not have problems with that: nobody cares. They have all the time they need, because whatever they come up with, nobody really expect it will reliably work. They not care.

  • Reply 14 of 66

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    Originally Posted by alex101 View Post



    So, would the fingerpringt sensor be integrated into the home button?


    Most likely. I use fingerprint sensors often and the most logical place is near the keypad or the one button where the integration saves space.

  • Reply 15 of 66
    ohm007ohm007 Posts: 4member
    Way too many speculations. Just wait and see.
  • Reply 16 of 66
    apple ][apple ][ Posts: 9,233member
    Haha, what would any launch of a future Apple product be without crack fueled speculation from the "far east" , reported by the ever so reliable Digitimes? Digitimes should win a Pulitzer for their in depth reporting and outstanding journalism when it comes to Apple. To be honest, those bastards should be behind bars for repeatedly printing untrue lies and their pathetic attempts at illegal stock manipulation.

    Here's another Apple story that is breaking today, and dare I say that it is far more news worthy and fun to talk about than this Digitimes garbage!

    Man sues Apple for his porn addiction and for breaking up his marriage!:D

    http://www.ibtimes.com/apple-sued-porn-addiction-man-says-macbook-cost-his-marriage-kids-1345831#

    Jeez, is there anything in the world that Apple is not responsible for? :smokey:
  • Reply 17 of 66
    sockrolidsockrolid Posts: 2,789member
    With the reported yield rate trouble, the publication said insiders estimate around three million iPhone 5S units will be delayed into the fourth quarter.

    "If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough."
    - Mario Andretti
  • Reply 18 of 66
    maccherrymaccherry Posts: 924member
    This makes since, if true, bcasue those LCDs have to go though(duh) quality control. My ex physics teacher told me why the first acrylic cinema dismays were initially so damn expensive. Poor yields and the cost was carried over to the consumer.
  • Reply 19 of 66


    Apple rumors are easy:


     


    November: Apple looking into holographic display company.


    January: iPhone to get holographic keyboard & display.


    March: Apple reportedly buying holographic camera modules, likely for next iPhone.


    May: Apple to release new iPhone in late July.


    July: Faulty holographic camera modules forcing Apple to push iPhone release to fall.


    September: iPhone is released! (No holographic tech...)


    November: Apple looking into laser warfare company.


    ...

  • Reply 20 of 66
    scapalscapal Posts: 16member
    Rumors generator:

    [CODE]rumored_features.each( function(feat) {
    if( feat.is_new() and feat.is_hardware()) {
    cout << "Rumor: delays due to low yield issues</br>";
    ++delay;
    }
    cout << "Volume production delayed " << 2 * delays << " weeks</br>";
    });[/CODE]
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